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Ho Yay is for unintential moments of homoeroticism. If the narrative discusses it, it's not unintentional.


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** Achilles and Patroclus. The entire Greek army thinks they're sleeping together, and they're most likely [[HomoeroticSubtext correct]].
** Achilles and Hector, each of whom is curiously obsessed with [[DoubleEntendre seeing the other unarmed]].

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* HoYay:
** Achilles and Patroclus. The entire Greek army thinks they're sleeping together, and they're most likely [[HomoeroticSubtext correct]].
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HoYay: Achilles and Hector, each of whom is curiously obsessed with [[DoubleEntendre seeing the other unarmed]].
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Indent fix and rewrite - we should never have a single ** or *** sub-bullet under an example


** Pandarus in the text is seen as lecherous and scheming (which is where the word "pandering" come from), though this reputation isn't deserved. The Iliad mentions him as a well trained soldier and a noble fighter. Shakespeare got his interpretation from the works of Chaucer, not the Iliad.
*** Although Pandarus was the one who broke the truce between the Greeks and Trojans in the Iliad when he thought he would get wealth and glory for it. Granted, a god was the one tempting him, but he didn't know that. So maybe he shouldn't be remembered so fondly.
** Achilles in this play is very different from the character in Homer. He actually supports the idea of peace! The Achilles of the Iliad would be disgusted by the thought.
** Hector is far more vicious to his wife whom he loves very dearly in the Iliad. Interesting to note that the Iliad portrays women far more equally than Shakespeare's play.

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** Pandarus in the text is seen as lecherous and scheming (which is where the word "pandering" come from), though this reputation isn't deserved. The although the Iliad mentions him as a well trained soldier and a noble fighter. Shakespeare got his interpretation from the works of Chaucer, not the Iliad.
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Iliad. That said, the Iliad's Pandarus was the one who also tempted by a god and broke the truce between the Greeks and Trojans in the Iliad when he thought he Trojans, believing this would get bring him wealth and glory for it. Granted, a god was the one tempting him, but he didn't know that. So maybe he shouldn't be remembered so fondly.glory.
** Shakespeare's Achilles in this play is very different from the character in Homer. He actually supports the idea of peace! The Achilles of the Iliad would be disgusted by the thought.
** Hector is far more vicious to his wife wife, whom he loves very dearly in the Iliad. Interesting to note that the Iliad portrays women far more equally than Shakespeare's play.
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** Pandarus in the text is seen as lecherous and scheming (which is where the word pandering come from), though this reputation isn't deserved. The Iliad mentions him as a well trained soldier and a noble fighter. Shakespeare got his interpretation from the works of Chaucer, not the Iliad.

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** Pandarus in the text is seen as lecherous and scheming (which is where the word pandering "pandering" come from), though this reputation isn't deserved. The Iliad mentions him as a well trained soldier and a noble fighter. Shakespeare got his interpretation from the works of Chaucer, not the Iliad.

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** Pandarus is the text is seen as lecherous and scheming, which is where the word pandering come from. Though this reputation isn't deserved. The Iliad mentions him as a well trained soldier and a noble fighter. Shakespeare got his interpretation from the works of Chaucer. Not the Iliad.

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** Pandarus is in the text is seen as lecherous and scheming, which scheming (which is where the word pandering come from. Though from), though this reputation isn't deserved. The Iliad mentions him as a well trained soldier and a noble fighter. Shakespeare got his interpretation from the works of Chaucer. Not Chaucer, not the Iliad.



** Hector is far more viscous to his wife whom he loves very dearly in the Iliad. Interesting to note that the Iliad portrays women far more equally than Shakespeare's play.

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** Hector is far more viscous vicious to his wife whom he loves very dearly in the Iliad. Interesting to note that the Iliad portrays women far more equally than Shakespeare's play.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: These are changes that the play made from the Iliad.



** Achilles and Patroclus. The entire Greek army thinks they're sleeping together, and they're most likely [[YaoiGuys correct]].

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** Achilles and Patroclus. The entire Greek army thinks they're sleeping together, and they're most likely [[YaoiGuys [[HomoeroticSubtext correct]].
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*** Although Pandarus was the one who broke the truce between the Greeks and Trojans in the Iliad when he thought he would get wealth and glory for it. Granted a god was the one tempting him but he didn't know that. So maybe he shouldn't be remembered so fondly.

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*** Although Pandarus was the one who broke the truce between the Greeks and Trojans in the Iliad when he thought he would get wealth and glory for it. Granted Granted, a god was the one tempting him him, but he didn't know that. So maybe he shouldn't be remembered so fondly.
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*** Although Pandarus was the one who broke the truce between the Greeks and Trojans in the Iliad when he thought he would get wealth and glory for it. Granted a god was the one tempting him but he didn't know that. So maybe he shouldn't be remembered so fondly.
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* ValuesDissonance: Pandarus comments how he wouldn't change his opinion of Cressida even if she was [[Squick black and a moor]].

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* ValuesDissonance: Pandarus comments how he wouldn't change his opinion of Cressida even if she was [[Squick black and a moor]].moor.
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* ValuesDissonance: Pandarus comments how he wouldn't change his opinion of Cressida even if she was [[Squick black and a moor]].

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Pandarus is the text is seen as lecherous and scheming, which is where the word pandering come from. Though this reputation isn't deserved. The Iliad mentions him as a well trained soldier and a noble fighter. Shakespeare got his interpretation from the works of Chaucer. Not the Iliad.

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Pandarus is the text is seen as lecherous and scheming, which is where the word pandering come from. Though this reputation isn't deserved. The Iliad mentions him as a well trained soldier and a noble fighter. Shakespeare got his interpretation from the works of Chaucer. Not the Iliad.Iliad.
** Achilles in this play is very different from the character in Homer. He actually supports the idea of peace! The Achilles of the Iliad would be disgusted by the thought.
** Hector is far more viscous to his wife whom he loves very dearly in the Iliad. Interesting to note that the Iliad portrays women far more equally than Shakespeare's play.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Pandarus is the text is seen as lecherous and scheming which is where the word pandering come from. Though this reputation isn't deserved. The Iliad mentions him as a well trained soldier and a noble fighter. Shakespeare got his interpretation from the works of Chaucer. Not the Iliad.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Pandarus is the text is seen as lecherous and scheming scheming, which is where the word pandering come from. Though this reputation isn't deserved. The Iliad mentions him as a well trained soldier and a noble fighter. Shakespeare got his interpretation from the works of Chaucer. Not the Iliad.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Pandarus is the text is seen as lecherous and scheming which is where the word pandering come from. Though this reputation isn't deserved. The Iliad mentions him as a well trained soldier and a noble fighter. Shakespeare got his interpretation from the works of Chaucer. Not the Iliad.

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* HoYay: Achilles and Patroclus. The entire Greek army thinks they're sleeping together, and they're most likely [[YaoiGuys correct]].

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Achilles and Patroclus. The entire Greek army thinks they're sleeping together, and they're most likely [[YaoiGuys correct]].correct]].
** Achilles and Hector, each of whom is curiously obsessed with [[DoubleEntendre seeing the other unarmed]].
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* HoYay: Achilles and Patroclus. The entire Greek army thinks they're sleeping together, and they're most likely [[YaoiGuys correct]].

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