History YMMV / TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen

25th Aug '16 4:34:27 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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** Arcee, Chromia, and Elita-1 as well. They get even far less screen time and dialogue than the aforementioned Fallen, [[spoiler:Elita-1 is abruptly and cheaply KilledMidSentence during the finale, and both Arcee and Chromia subsequently suffer WhatHappenedToTheMouse statuses.]] Not helped at all by Michael Bay [[spoiler:confirming all three of them to be dead and that he killed them off out of sheer hatred of the characters.]]

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** Arcee, Chromia, and Elita-1 as well. They get even far less screen time and dialogue than the aforementioned Fallen, [[spoiler:Elita-1 is abruptly and cheaply KilledMidSentence during the finale, and both Arcee and Chromia subsequently suffer WhatHappenedToTheMouse statuses.]] Not helped at all by Michael Bay [[spoiler:confirming all three of them to be dead and that he killed them off out of sheer hatred of the characters.]]]]
* UncannyValley: The Autobots and the Decepticons taking on increasingly human-like features as part of their primary modes; for example, the Fallen's "beard" and head resembling an Egyptian headdress. This would later become a norm for the sequels.
** Perhaps more disconcertingly, Skids and Mudflap, who along with their already stereotypical behavior were widely accused of mimicking blackface.
** Finally, Devastator's wrecking balls.
* ValuesDissonance: The entire reason why Skids and Mudflap were later removed entirely from the later films.
23rd Aug '16 3:51:02 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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** Only just finding a shark of the AllSpark attached to his shirt a full ''two years'' after killing Megatron.

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** Only just finding a shark of the AllSpark [=AllSpark=] attached to his shirt a full ''two years'' after killing Megatron.


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** The ability of the Transformers to teleport, which we see from both Jetfire and the Fallen is not explained or an ability seen from equally powerful cybertronians like Optimus or Megatron.
23rd Aug '16 2:41:24 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of Transformers like Alice who can turn into humans is actually nothing new. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretenders_(Transformers)#Standard_Pretenders_.281988.29 The Pretenders]] first appeared in Generation 1, and both sides had them. (Although in that version, a Pretender's disguise was more like PoweredArmor which could actually fight independently of the Pretender once it revealed itself.)


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** Michael Bay himself has yet to fully separate himself from the reputation this film has gained, as it helped cement what audiences and critics disliked most about his directing style.
* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of Transformers like Alice who can turn into humans is actually nothing new. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretenders_(Transformers)#Standard_Pretenders_.281988.29 The Pretenders]] first appeared in Generation 1, and both sides had them. (Although in that version, a Pretender's disguise was more like PoweredArmor which could actually fight independently of the Pretender once it revealed itself.)
23rd Aug '16 2:37:01 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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** Only just finding a shark of the AllSpark attached to his shirt a full ''two years'' after killing Megatron.
21st Jul '16 5:23:31 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The titular Fallen. He's voiced by Creator/TonyTodd, the GreaterScopeVillain to all of the Decepticons, pretty DangerouslyGenreSavvy when it comes to picking his spots, and evidently quite a winner in the SuperpowerLottery. Sadly, he also turns out to be a textbook GenericDoomsdayVillain with the barest minimum of screen time, not to mention his extremely glaring [[spoiler:ForgotAboutHisPowers moment against Optimus that ultimately robs viewers of a satisfying final clash]]. And reportedly, even WordOfGod ultimately regrets how he's turned out.

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** The titular Fallen. He's voiced by Creator/TonyTodd, the GreaterScopeVillain to all of the Decepticons, pretty DangerouslyGenreSavvy savvy when it comes to picking his spots, and evidently quite a winner in the SuperpowerLottery. Sadly, he also turns out to be a textbook GenericDoomsdayVillain FlatCharacter with the barest minimum of screen time, not to mention his extremely glaring [[spoiler:ForgotAboutHisPowers moment against Optimus that ultimately robs viewers of a satisfying final clash]]. And reportedly, even WordOfGod ultimately regrets how he's turned out.
18th Jul '16 1:20:15 AM CaptainTedium
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* BaseBreaker: Optimus fell into this. He remained the most popular Transformer in the series and is one of the biggest badasses in the movie, but quite a few fans took issue with his more savage battle tendencies introduced in this movie, which contradict the relatively pacifistic nature of the Optimus Prime character in most media. A third group of fans liked this incarnation more, happy that the movies were willing to make some changes with the usually infallible role that Optimus usually takes.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Optimus fell into this. He remained the most popular Transformer in the series and is one of the biggest badasses in the movie, but quite a few fans took issue with his more savage battle tendencies introduced in this movie, which contradict the relatively pacifistic nature of the Optimus Prime character in most media. A third group of fans liked this incarnation more, happy that the movies were willing to make some changes with the usually infallible role that Optimus usually takes.
12th Jul '16 11:24:37 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* TheyJustDidntCare:
** Would you imagine that the script was only assembled in 3 weeks? Justified, due to the fact that the writers' strike was going on at the time.
** A better example is how Michael Bay (or whoever was in charge of release schedules) insisted that the movie go ahead ''despite'' the writers' strike.
** The film reuses a shot from not just the first film (the Autobots arriving at Earth being used for Decepticon arrival) and one from an hour ago (Soundwave in space relaying Decepticons orders). They also utilized a shot from ''Film/PearlHarbor'' (the scene in which ships are shown), though this is less noticeable.
13th Jun '16 9:04:54 PM Etheru
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** The Pretender Alice, whose presence in the plot feels rather forced, exacerbating the [[RomanticPlotTumor already contentious]] Sam and Mikaela subplot, and the film [[MoodWhiplash having difficulty deciding]] if it wants her to be scary or funny.
24th May '16 7:30:07 AM CaptainTedium
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** Arcee, Chromia, and Elita-1 as well. They get even far less screen time and dialogue than the aforementioned Fallen, [[spoiler:Elita-1 is abruptly and cheaply KilledMidSentence during the finale, and both Arcee and Chromia subsequently suffer WhatHappenedToTheMouse statuses.]]

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** Arcee, Chromia, and Elita-1 as well. They get even far less screen time and dialogue than the aforementioned Fallen, [[spoiler:Elita-1 is abruptly and cheaply KilledMidSentence during the finale, and both Arcee and Chromia subsequently suffer WhatHappenedToTheMouse statuses.]] Not helped at all by Michael Bay [[spoiler:confirming all three of them to be dead and that he killed them off out of sheer hatred of the characters.]]
18th May '16 6:44:06 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The idea of Transformers like Alice who can turn into humans is actually nothing new. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretenders_(Transformers)#Standard_Pretenders_.281988.29 The Pretenders]] first appeared in Generation 1, and both sides had them. (Although in that version, a Pretender's disguise was more like PoweredArmor which could actually fight independently of the Pretender once it revealed itself.)
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