History YMMV / TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen

23rd Jun '17 1:34:44 PM superboy313
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** Skids and Mudflap are widely hated by fans for their obnoxious personalities and [[UnfortunateImplications horribly stereotypical attitudes]].
2nd Jun '17 5:04:46 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The film revolves around a titular antagonist with ties to ancient Egypt, and also received substantially less praise than its predecessor and said antagonist was panned for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain. The same would happen in 2016's ''Film/XMenApocalypse''.

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** The film revolves around a titular antagonist with ties to ancient Egypt, and also received substantially less praise than its predecessor and said antagonist was panned for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain.FlatCharacter. The same would happen in 2016's ''Film/XMenApocalypse''.
2nd Jun '17 4:57:26 PM Anddrix
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* CringeComedy: To be expected, it ''is'' a Michael Bay movie after all. Cranked UpToEleven bigtime in this sequel which quickly earned it the wrath of critics and audiences alike.
2nd Jun '17 4:47:45 PM cwf123
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** A greater example is Soundwave, with Creator/FrankWelker voicing him which made the appearance of the character help immensely.
20th May '17 1:18:34 AM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* CringeComedy: To be expected, it ''is'' a Michael Bay movie after all. Cranked UpToEleven bigtime in this sequel which quickly earned it the wrath of critics and audiences alike.
20th May '17 1:15:11 AM TheTrailblazerCritic
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** The film is perhaps most notorious for the introduction of the blatantly stereotypical Skids and Mudflap, who almost instantly went on to become two of the most hated characters in cinema.
17th May '17 3:21:58 AM SkidTroper
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* CounterpartComparison: Alice the Deception Pretender is very nearly the T-X from ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines''. They're both shapeshifting robot assassins with built-in weapons whose human disguise is a beautiful, sexualized blonde woman; Alice's robot form even resembles the T-X (something several viewers pointed out, including WebVideo/CinemaSins in their review of Transformers 2, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoe1p_NrFwg which can be seen here]]; their comment is at the 9:33 mark [[note]]An earlier comment in the video directly mentions shapeshifting liquid metal, so that could be a nod to the T-1000 from Terminator 2 as well[[/note]]).

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* CounterpartComparison: Alice the Deception Pretender is very nearly the T-X from ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines''. They're both shapeshifting robot assassins with built-in weapons whose human disguise is a beautiful, sexualized sensual blonde woman; Alice's robot form even resembles the T-X (something several viewers pointed out, including WebVideo/CinemaSins in their review of Transformers 2, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoe1p_NrFwg which can be seen here]]; their comment is at the 9:33 mark [[note]]An earlier comment in the video directly mentions shapeshifting liquid metal, so that could be a nod to the T-1000 from Terminator 2 as well[[/note]]).
21st Apr '17 8:41:21 AM Chris116
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** At least ''some'' of those are countered in the novelization. For example, Skids' and Mudflap's line that "They don't do much reading" to justify why they couldn't read Cybertronian symbols (when they're, you know, ''robots'' who have ''computers for brains'') is changed to that they ''can'' read, but the symbols are from the language of the Primes, which they don't know and is separate from the standard Cybertronian language.

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** At least ''some'' of those are countered in the novelization. For example, Skids' and Mudflap's line that "They "we don't really do much reading" to justify why they couldn't read Cybertronian symbols (when they're, you know, ''robots'' who have ''computers for brains'') is changed to that they ''can'' read, but the symbols are from the language of the Primes, which they don't know and is separate from the standard Cybertronian language.



* HilariousInHindsight: There's an entire scene with [[{{Film/Battleship}} alien mecha wrecking battleships...]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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There's an entire scene with [[{{Film/Battleship}} alien mecha wrecking battleships...]]]]
** The Fallen's main scheme is to destroy the Sun with its' Harvester. Though he fails here, ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' shows that the First Order perfected the process of draining a star for its' energy. You'd half-expect The Fallen to be watching ''The Force Awakens'', and throwing a beer at the screen when the First Order drains the star with ease.
** The film revolves around a titular antagonist with ties to ancient Egypt, and also received substantially less praise than its predecessor and said antagonist was panned for being a GenericDoomsdayVillain. The same would happen in 2016's ''Film/XMenApocalypse''.



** The first movie received solid critical and audience reception, leading to very high expectations for this film. When the resulting film turned out to be ''far'' worse than the original, it helped really destroy the series's image.



* {{Misblamed}}: Some accused Michael Bay of holding an anti-UsefulNotes/BarackObama agenda, since he is specifically mentioned as being the president, and the government officials go from being generally cooperative (albeit in over their heads) in the last film to being complete jerkwads in this one. However, as Bay pointed out, the screenplay was completed and filming began at the start of 2008, before he or anyone else involved knew that the ''Democrats would nominate'' Obama (UsefulNotes/HillaryClinton was still the favorite for their nomination at the start of 2008, albeit by a slim margin), much less that he would out-poll all other presidential candidates. Additionally, Obama is only mentioned in a brief line that was clearly dubbed on in post-production, which could easily be swapped out for one mentioning John [=McCain=] with no real effect on the movie.

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* {{Misblamed}}: Some accused Michael Bay of holding an anti-UsefulNotes/BarackObama agenda, since he is specifically mentioned as being the president, and the government officials go from being generally cooperative (albeit in over their heads) in the last film to being complete jerkwads in this one. However, as Bay pointed out, the screenplay was completed and filming began at the start of 2008, before he or anyone else involved knew that the ''Democrats would nominate'' Obama (UsefulNotes/HillaryClinton was still the favorite for their nomination at the start of 2008, albeit by a slim margin), much less that he would out-poll all other presidential candidates. Furthermore, Bay and the writers are known Democratic voters and meant no offense to Obama, and the decision to namedrop him occurred ''after'' Obama became president. Additionally, Obama is only mentioned in a brief line that was clearly dubbed on and shown in post-production, a few brief shots of news footage, both of which could were obviously changes made in post-production. The line and snippet of footage could've easily be swapped out for one mentioning been changed to focus on John [=McCain=] with no real effect on had he won the movie.2008 election.



** Though he certainly looked awesome and had Creator/TonyTodd's performance gong for him, between having zero motivation or [[FlatCharacter characterization]], a bizarre grab bag of unexplained powers, an awful, anticlimactic clusterfuck of a fight to his name, and [[InNameOnly nothing shown in the way of actual transformation]], there's a reason the Fallen himself is widely considered to be the worst BigBad of any of the four films. Even Bay himself admitted that the Fallen was "kind of a (expletive) character" in an interview.
** Sam's parents and Leo are the worst characters in the series for being a burden and annoyance. They have no significant influence to the plot.

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** Though he certainly looked awesome and had Creator/TonyTodd's performance gong for him, between having zero motivation or [[FlatCharacter characterization]], a bizarre grab bag of unexplained powers, an awful, anticlimactic clusterfuck of a fight to his name, and [[InNameOnly nothing shown in the way of actual transformation]], there's a reason the Fallen himself is widely considered to be the worst BigBad of any of the four films. Even Bay himself admitted that the Fallen was "kind of a (expletive) character" in an interview.
** Sam's parents and Leo are the worst characters in the series film for being a burden and annoyance. They have no significant influence to the plot.
8th Mar '17 5:24:14 PM Loremasta1
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* CounterpartComparison: Alice the Deception Pretender is very nearly the T-X from ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines''. They're both shapeshifting robot assassins with built-in weapons whose human disguise is a beautiful, sexualized blonde woman; Alice's robot form even resembles the T-X (something several viewer pointed out, including WebVideo/CinemaSins in their review of Transformers 2).

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* CounterpartComparison: Alice the Deception Pretender is very nearly the T-X from ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines''. They're both shapeshifting robot assassins with built-in weapons whose human disguise is a beautiful, sexualized blonde woman; Alice's robot form even resembles the T-X (something several viewer viewers pointed out, including WebVideo/CinemaSins in their review of Transformers 2).2, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoe1p_NrFwg which can be seen here]]; their comment is at the 9:33 mark [[note]]An earlier comment in the video directly mentions shapeshifting liquid metal, so that could be a nod to the T-1000 from Terminator 2 as well[[/note]]).
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