History YMMV / TowerOFGod

* CompleteMonster: [[BloodKnight Lo Po Bia Ren]], aka Yuga, is a [[Characters/TowerOfGodRankers member of the Royal Enforcement Division]] who was sent to kill a [[Characters/TowerOfGodPrincessesOfJahad Princess of Jehad]] for giving birth to a child carrying her powers. Ren would [[HouseFire set her house on fire]] while she's still inside, burning her alive, and when her daughter, Anak Jahad, vows vengeance for her mother's death, Ren infiltrates the Submerged Fish Hunt Test and gleefully taunts Anak about being her mother's killer. Defeating Anak, he has his Bull capture Endorsi Jahad and tries to force her to kill Anak. When Anak and Endorsi team up, Ren attempts to kill the two, crushing Anak with his foot. When Anak and Endorsi are saved by Yuri Jahad, who proceeds to defeat Ren, he sends his Bull to kill Baam and Rachel, due to the former's status as an [[Characters/TowerOfGodIrregulars Irregular]].

*** The varying importance that the Hide and Seek test had on the regulars passing the 2nd Floor (specifically, several regulars were already shoo-ins to pass, like Khun[[labelnote:*]]why he was solely concerned with ensuring Bam's team would win[[/labelnote]], Shibisu[[labelnote:*]]why acting as a HumanShield for Anak against a ranker with a HairTriggerTemper was so surprising[[/labelnote]], Rachel[[labelnote:*]]why she was given a second chance to move forward despite being put out of commission by Hoh[[/labelnote]], and Lauroe[[labelnote:*]]why Hoh was desperate to [[RemovingTheRival prevent Bam]] from passing so he could take the other remaining Wave Controller spot[[/labelnote]]).

** Despite being among the most developed characters in Part 1, part of a small group that might be able to avoid (or at least delay) CantCatchUp territory compared to our protagonist, and one of the few regulars whose character arc is altogether independent from Bam's, Anak is almost entirely ignored in the several hundred chapters of Part 2 barring a short (and admittedly awesome) fight against Khun Ran. This is especially egregious since her connection to the plot points of Part 2 allowed for multiple non-contrived reasons to keep her as a major character. This includes possessing a connection to Garam Jahad (who played a major role on the Floor of Death and briefly cared for Anak after she was orphaned), holding a grudge against Jahad that should have made her a prime choice to join FUG, being hunted by the Jahad Empire just like Bam, ending up the catalyst for her frenemy Endorsi losing her name at the Name Hunt Station, establishing a rivalry with the (far more focused-on) [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ran]], and having reason to clash with Yuri (over ownership of the [[AncestralWeapon Green April]]).

** Yu Hansung, Ho, Nya Nia, Ran, Quaetro, and especially Hoaqin incite this reaction due to their delicate features, big eyes, and (for some of them) long hair. Bam skirts this trope himself from time to time, [[spoiler:especially during his tenure as Viole]], and Khun sometimes falls into this trope depending on his hairstyle.

** That seems to be the common trait of most of the Ten Family Heads. But so far, [[spoiler:Lo Po Bia Traumerei has hit this trope pretty hard. Being able to [[TheBeastmaster control (almost) every animal in the tower]], he doesn't see them as anything more than tools and doesn't acknolwdge their loyalty even if they love him as pets, [[BadBoss having no qualms with killing them]], and admitting he isn't capable of caring about their emotions. It is likely that thousands of years as an [[AGodAmI immortal godlike being]] have caused him to [[LackOfEmpathy lose the ability to empathize with anything]].]]

** That seems to be the common trait of most of the Ten Family Heads. But so far, [[spoiler:Lo Po Bia Traumerei has hit this trope pretty hard. Being able to [[TheBeastmaster control (almost) every animal in the tower]], he doesn't see them as anything more than tools and doesn't acknolwdge their loyalty even if they love him as pets, [[BadBoss having no qualms with killing them]], and admitting he isn't capable of caring about their emotions. It is likely that thousands of years as an [[AGodAmI immortal godlike being]] have caused him to [[LackOfEmpathy lose the ability to empathize with anything]].}}

*** Detractors point to the fact that as an [[AuthorPowers Axis]] Phantamium is both invincible in a direct conflict and has the ability to RealityWarper manipulate reality across the entire Tower. They tend to argue that the Axis storyline is only relevant to SIU's SharedUniverse and almost entirely independent from the main plot. They also claim that Enryu, a being with concrete limitations that has direct plot relevance, fits the roles of WorldsStrongestMan and MysteriousStranger better without negating dramatic tension. Some even support a soft retcon of Phantamium's existence on the basis that, as [=ToG=] becomes more extensive, the other Talse Uzer plotlines have become fairly unlikely to ever come to fruition.
*** Some fans of Phantamium still point to the WordOfGod statement that his role in the plot will be limited, arguing that this is a positive. They claim that the unsolved mystery around Phantamium adds to the theme that the Tower is part of a wide world filled with innumerable overlapping stories. They also argue that the concept of an Axis uniquely reinforces the recurring plot point that there is AlwaysABiggerFish. As such, they are fans of the way SIU connects the Axis concept to the greater Talse Uzer story without having Phantamium play too large a role.

** There's a fairly large divide between those who believe the series gets better and more crazy after Season 1 with Bam's new incredible power and edgy attitude, or if the story becomes too convoluted with arcs lasting too long and fan-favorite characters from the first season not reappearing for an extremely long time. It does not help that the first test after the timeskip is seen as hard to follow with the sheer amount of new characters introduced.

** Tower of ''Betrayal''. Given the amount of betrayals that go down in this series.

** [=RaKhunBam=]. A common nickname for Bam, Khun, and Rak being TrueCompanions.

%% Given that we still don't know what's actually going on with Rachel, and this has become a lighting rod for natter, please do not re-add Rachel under MoralEventHorizon until her arc is complete. Also, groups cannot have a MoralEventHorizon.

** And of course there's the original shocking moment, [[spoiler: Rachel pushing Bam]].

** Some readers began to feel this way about Rak despite the humanoid crocodile being one of the main characters. This is primarily because in Season 2, Rak ended up largely OutOfFocus compared to the developments seen for Bam, Khun, and Rachel. It also doesn't help that SIU actually said it in an interview once that he doesn't enjoy drawing the large version of Rak, which is why Rak is seen in chibi-form almost all the time throughout Season 2. As a result, the fans feel that SIU is holding back on Rak from potentially doing anything badass, and has left the crocodile as nothing more than a chibi-form comic relief character.

* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:Rachel betrays Bam at the end of the 2nd Floor]]. You're gonna be hard pressed to find somebody who doesn't mention this fact in conversations.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The animated adaption has generally received a very mixed response. Among its strong points is the combination of the strong VA performances, the ''excellent'' [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic soundtrack]] by Kevin Penkin, and the [[CrapsaccharineWorld bright, yet unsettling]] aesthetic. However, a subset of the fanbase has complained loudly and frequently about the needless alteration of several key details in the anime, alleging this makes the series unnecessarily confusing and less compelling. This includes:

** Jahad and his empire bring up more of this than anyone else combined. Is the empire a autocratic [[TheEmpire empire]] state ruled by a [[GodEmperor god]] [[AGodAmI emperor]] or is it just a tough but fair state which give opportunity to all residents of the tower and the disparity we hear about is just the outcome of creating a elite and well group who had a better life than those before and the regular who climbed the tower know how good things could be now compared to before Jahad and the ten warrior arrived? Not too mention the fact that many of the abuses of power in the tower are caused by regulars of the ten great families, which rankers have no right to intervene and whether or not Jahad himself can move against the families? We know absolutely nothing about him or his way and the group who seems most wronged by the empire is [[ObviouslyEvil F]][[TheDreaded U]][[TheUnfettered G]] who methods are far worse than anything we have seen committed on screen by a member of Jahad's empire and which was founded by one of Jahad's allies when he became emperor before his so called oppression could begin. Additional information coming in later on changes this picture: If Garam Jahad's revelations on the Floor of Death are at all accurate, Jahad is confirmed to have done things like tricked his subjects to kill each other to maintain his own power and literally murdered a baby. That said, we still don't know the reasons why he stopped on the 135th Floor, so while he may be evil, the possibility that he is a WellIntentionedExtremist remains open.
** The Great Family leader, Arie Hon. Was he being a {{Jerkass}} to Hoaqin telling his son that he will never be able to make something of himself without being a criminal by telling Hoaquin to become a demon, or was it a [[SecretTestOfCharacter test]], and challenge for Hoaquin, to live under the family, and grow strong enough by developing his own power to one day exceed father? Hon's GlowingEyes of doom might have meant the former, but the scene happening in the flashback from another character point of view might skew the scene toward the character interpretation being that of the latter. WordOfGod does state that Hon saw Hoaqin's future.
*** As of the Last Station, [[spoiler: another flashback from White/Hoaqin reveals it's actually neither and Hon was just being blunt and cold and telling his son what his future would be like, although the surprise is that Hoaqin actually [[{{UsedToBeASweetKid}} interpreted it as the latter]]. Well almost, Hoaqin interpreted it as leaving the family to the Outer Tower to establish a kingdom of his own, and train his abilities as a [[{{TheGoodKing}} ruler who looks after his subjects]], like how Arie Hon is the greatest[[note]]In terms of ranking, his virtuous strength is... questionable[[/note]] Family Head out of the Ten Great Families. Arie Hon immediately reveals that what he meant wasn't that and he literally saw the threads of a demon within him, and tells Hoaqin to indulge it and become a soul eating monster fueled by the resentment to towards Hon himself, ''even though he's destined to fail''. Yikes. Whether or not he was telling him what he would become to give him a chance to get the idea of surpassing him out of his mind, knowing that it's impossible, or he was actually intent on corrupting Hoaqin or not, only time will tell. Another interpretation from recent chapters may be that Hon, as stated by a family member of his, doesn't care about his children's lives, apart from helping them grow stronger by aiding in their training, so he simply told Hoaqin what he believed would be his future and didn't bother to care how Hoaqin would take it, as he probably saw telling him what he could become as already being warning enough.]]

** There's a fairly large divide between those who believe the series gets better and more crazy after Season 1 with Bam's new incredible power and edgy attitude, or if the story becomes too convoluted with arcs lasting too long and fan favorite characters from the first season not reappearing for an extremely long time. It does not help that the first test after the timeskip is seen as hard to follow with the sheer amount of new characters introduced.

* CompleteMonster: [[BloodKnight Lo Po Bia Ren]], aka Yuga, is a [[Characters/TowerOfGodRankers member of the Royal Enforcement Division]] who was sent to kill a [[Characters/TowerOfGodPrincessesOfJahad Princess of Jehad]] for giving birth to a child carrying her powers. Ren would [[HouseFire set her house on fire]] while she's still inside, burning her alive, and when her daughter, Anaak Jehad, vows vengeance for her mother's death, Ren infiltrates the Submerged Fish Hunt Test and gleefully taunts Anaak about being her mother's killer. Defeating Anaak, he has his Bull capture Endorsi Jehad and tries to force her to kill Anaak. When Anaak and Endorsi team up, Ren attempts to kill the two, crushing Anaak with his foot. When Anaak and Endorsi are saved by Yuri Jehad and proceeds to defeat Ren, he sends his Bull to kill Baam and Rachel, due to the former's status as an [[Characters/TowerOfGodIrregulars Irregular]].
* CreatorsPet: WordOfGod stated Rachel was his favourite. The fandom does not share this viewpoint at all. It may overlap with TrollingCreator, since he said that she's really quite charming once you get to know her in the comments for a page where she does something particularly objectionable.

** [[WordOfGod SIU corrects]] [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Rak's species as well as his last name is Lacration.]] The fandom still choose Wrathraiser or Wreckraiser because it's cooler and Lacration sounds like lactation.

** Some of the FUG members certainly count despite their ruthlessness. Reflejo had his family wiped out and his eyelids sewn together just because he looked at a Jahad princess and Raguel had a horrible childhood because a 10 families member seduced an abandoned her mother.

** If it can bleed, Boro will slaughter it in a never before seen fashion with a weapon not fit for the job. If it cannot bleed, think again.

** The first time Khun fake-died after finding out that [[spoiler:Apple was a traitor]], it was shocking. The second time Khun fake-died right as [[spoiler:he realizes Viole is Bam]], it was heart breaking. The third time Khun fake-died as [[spoiler:Rachel detonated the bomb she secretly put in his chest]], it was infuriating. The ''fourth'' time Khun fake-died from [[spoiler:Baylord Paul offhandedly putting a hole in him]], causing him to drop to the floor ''in a Yamcha Pose,'' it was getting [[{{TheyKilledKennyAgain}} kinda routine]].

* {{Moe}}: Miseng, with her [[{{UsefulNotes/Kawaisa}} backpack, school girl outfit and humble attitude, easily cries and tends to be cheerful.]]

* ParanoiaFuel: FUG moles are ''everywhere'', and they know ''everything''. Woe to you if you are in any way acquainted to Viole. [[spoiler:Such as, you know, being his old friends.]]

** Ironically due to his initial {{Jerkass}} bahavior Hon Akraptor was hated by many fans and a lot hoped Bam would one shot him. Fast foward a couple chapters latter and he quickly became the most popular season 2 character because he's funny.

** If Rachel appears in a chapter (and sometimes when she doesn't), the top audience comments on Line Webtoon will probably be ranting against her. Since she's presumably disliked for being deceitful, manipulative and cruel without being [[EvilIsCool cool]], competent or exceptionally cute, you might think she's a HateSink; however, she doesn't clearly fit that trope, and the author seems to dislike her less than many do. Others freely admit they know they've done horrible things, but Rachel adamantly refuses to admit that anything she has done is wrong in any way.

** Despite being among the most developed characters in Part 1, part of a small group that might be able to avoid (or at least delay) CantCatchUp territory compared to our protagonist, and one of the few regulars whose character arc is altogether independent from Bam's, Anak is almost entirely ignored in the several hundred chapters of Part 2 barring a short (and admittedly awesome) fight against Khun Ran. This is especially egregious since her connection to the plot points of Part 2 allowed for multiple non-contrived reasons to keep her as a major character. This includes possessing a connection to Garam Jahad (who played a major role on the Floor of Death and briefly cared for Anak after she was orphaned), holding a grudge against Jahad that should have made her a prime choice to join FUG, being hunted by the Jahad Empire just like Bam, ending up the catalyst for her frenemy Endorsi losing her name at the name hunt station, establishing a rivalry with the (far more focused-on) [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ran]], and having reason to clash with Yuri (over ownership of the [[AncestralWeapon Green April]]).

* TheWoobie: Bam is adorable, kind, optimistic, determined and gets to suffer quite a bit.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The animated adaption has generally received a very mixed response. Among its strong points are the combination of the strong VA performances, the ''excellent'' soundtrack by Kevin Penkin, and the [[CrapsaccharineWorld bright, yet unsettling]] aesthetic. However, a subset of the fanbase has complained loudly and frequently about the needless alteration of several key details in the anime, alleging this makes the series unnecessarily confusing and less compelling. This includes:
** Conversations that helped establish ongoing character relationships, like Bam and Endorsi [[CommonalityConnection commiserating]] on the loneliness in their pasts; Khun telling Bam and Rak about [[TheOneThatGotAway Maria]] (and internally lamenting that he couldn't climb the Tower [[MyGreatestSecondChance alongside]] her); and Bam's comments to Yu Hansung, the 2nd-floor test director, expressing how little he cares for the "huge pile of garbage" that is the Tower if climbing it means he can't be with Rachel [[spoiler:(which later gets a call back when Hansung points out that, "to her, the garbage at the top of the Tower was more important.")]].

--->'''[[AntiVillain Rachel]]''': I'm afraid of the night.[[labelnote:*]]This was in response to being questioned on why she wants to see the stars, and had "night" written with the same characters as [[AmbiguousSituation Bam's name]]. However, outside the Japanese dub, which changed Bam's name accordingly, this would probably have been LostInTranslation regardless[[/labelnote]]

** Explanations/discoveries that are important to understand the nature of the Tower or the plot, such as:
*** The full description of [[PureMagic shinsu]], [[EnergyBall baangs]][[labelnote:*]]in broad strokes, they [[FantasticMeasurementSystem measure]] the number of shinsu blasts someone can independently control[[/labelnote]], and the importance of each [[CharacterClassSystem position]];

*** The varying importance that the Hide and Seek test had on the regulars passing the 2nd Floor (several regulars were already shoo-ins to pass, like Khun[[labelnote:*]]why he was solely concerned with ensuring Bam's team would win[[/labelnote]], Shibisu[[labelnote:*]]why acting as a HumanShield for Anak against a ranker with a HairTriggerTemper was so surprising[[/labelnote]], Rachel[[labelnote:*]]why she was given a second chance to move forward despite being put out of commission by Hoh[[/labelnote]], and Lauroe[[labelnote:*]]why Hoh was desperate to [[RemovingTheRival prevent Bam]] from passing so he could take the other remaining Wave Controller spot[[/labelnote]]).

** Conversations that helped establish ongoing character relationships, like Bam and Endorsi [[CommonalityConnection commiserating]] on the loneliness in their pasts; and Khun telling Bam and Rak about [[TheOneThatGotAway Maria]] (and internally lamenting that he couldn't climb the Tower [[MyGreatestSecondChance alongside]] her).

*** The role that [[TheChessmaster Yu Hansung]], the 2nd-floor test director, played in manipulating Rachel and Bam into FUG; and

** Kaiser had this going for a while too, what with the name almost always being used for men, but the long hair, obscuring cloak and rather feminine mask in place also helped obfuscate the gender. Come the time [[spoiler:Kaiser decides to confront Bam early]] though, it's made immediately apparent that [[SamusIsAGirl Kaiser is, in fact, female,]] and the only reason there was any doubt in the first place was how SIU drew her until then and lack of gender-specific dialogue.[[note]] '''In the chapter her gender is confirmed, Kaiser directly refers to herself as a woman, and SIU properly shows her body and feminine clothing beneath the cloak. Before that, it was all obtuse angles, close ups to her mask and/or shadow shots.'''[[/note]]

* WhatAnIdiot: Mazino. A couple hundred years back, he stumbled upon a spawn of the 43rd Floor's previous Administrator--the Red Thryssa, a very powerful little creature that comes up periodically. While he does acknowledge the danger it could possess should someone with the wrong mindset get a hold of it, what does he do? [[spoiler:He hands it over to a well meaning, but weak man who won him over with his hopeful aspirations, thinking he'd use it for good. That man eventually becomes the childish tyrant Hell Joe after an event gone wrong and the Red Thryssa grooming him after symbiosis.]] A lot of problems could have been avoided had Mazino been absolutely certain about where this power was going, or even if he just destroyed it after finding it. To be fair, even he admits he messed up.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The animated adaption has generally received a very mixed response. Among its strong points are the combination of the strong VA performances, the ''excellent'' soundtrack by Kevin Penkin, and the [[CrapsaccharineWorld bright, yet unsettling]] aesthetic. However, a subset of the fanbase has complained loudly and frequently about the needless alteration of several key details in the anime, alleging this makes the series unnecessarily confusing and less compelling. This includes:
** Conversations that helped establish ongoing character relationships, like Bam and Endorsi [[CommonalityConnection commiserating]] on the loneliness in their pasts; and Khun telling Bam and Rak about [[TheOneThatGotAway Maria]] (and internally lamenting that he couldn't climb the Tower [[MyGreatestSecondChance alongside]] her).
** Multiple quotes that are well-known for providing depth to (or insight into) characters' personalities, like:
--->'''[[MentorInSourArmor Quant]]''': Throwing away what's precious, giving in to their own selfish desires to even betray their own, but the one God has chosen is [[AllLovingHero a child]] who cries over the death of a competitor... not a friend. But if he's truly gifted, there's no way they could have continued together. No matter how small [[TheGift a baby shark]] is, it can't swim with the [[CantCatchUp sardines]].

--->'''[[BigEgoHiddenDepths Rak]]''': A game without me...IS A GAME NOT WORTH WINNING!!!

--->'''[[AntiVillain Rachel]]''': I'm afraid of the night.[[labelnote:*]]This was in response to being questioned on why she wants to see the stars, and had "night" written with the same characters as [[AmbiguousSituation Bam's name]]. However, outside the Japanese dub, which changed Bam's name accordingly, this would probably have been LostInTranslation regardless[[/labelnote]]

--->'''[[AGodIAmNot Bam]]''': Isn't there..any way everybody can be happy? Not a way like [[DeadlyGame this]]...\\
'''[[BigBrotherMentor Khun]]''': Well...the god who created the tower might know the answer.\\
'''Bam''': Where's that [[HaveYouSeenMyGod god]]...?
** Explanations/discoveries that are important to understand the nature of the Tower or the plot, such as:
*** The full description of [[PureMagic shinsu]], [[EnergyBall baangs]][[labelnote:*]]in broad strokes, they [[FantasticMeasurementSystem measure]] the number of shinsu blasts someone can independently control[[/labelnote]], and the role of each [[CharacterClassSystem position]];
*** The role that [[TheChessmaster Yu Hansung]], the 2nd-floor test director, played in manipulating Rachel and Bam into FUG; and
*** The varying importance that the Hide and Seek test had on the regulars passing the 2nd Floor (several regulars were already shoo-ins to pass, like Khun[[labelnote:*]]why he was solely concerned with ensuring Bam's team would win[[/labelnote]], Shibisu[[labelnote:*]]why acting as a HumanShield for Anak against a ranker with a HairTriggerTemper was so surprising[[/labelnote]], Rachel[[labelnote:*]]why she was given a second chance to move forward despite being put out of commission by Hoh[[/labelnote]], and Lauroe[[labelnote:*]]why Hoh was desperate to [[RemovingTheRival prevent Bam]] from passing so he could take the other remaining Wave Controller spot[[/labelnote]]).

*** Though more recently, it has become clear that Rachel herself [[spoiler:doesn't want Bam to leave her alone]]. Bam chases her partially for answers, and she never gives him a full explanation. Later, after the [[spoiler:Hidden Floor, Bam is fully ready to go their separate ways, and it's Rachel who acts to ensure Bam continues chasing her.]]
** Jahad and his empire bring up more of this than anyone else combined. Is the empire a autocratic [[TheEmpire empire]] state ruled by a [[GodEmperor god]] [[AGodAmI emperor]] or is it just a tough but fair state which give opportunity to all residents of the tower and the disparity we hear about is just the outcome of creating a elite and well group who had a better life than those before and the regular who climbed the tower know how good things could be now compared to before Jahad and the ten warrior arrived? Not too mention the fact that many of the abuses of power in the tower are caused by regulars of the ten great families, which rankers have no right to intervene and whether or not Jahad himself can move against the families? We know absolutely nothing about him or his way and the group who seems most wronged by the empire is [[ObviouslyEvil F]][[TheDreaded U]][[TheUnfettered G]] who methods are far worse than anything we have seen committed on screen by a member of Jahad's empire and which was founded by one of Jahad's allies when he became emperor before his so called oppression could begin. Additional information coming in later on changes this picture: If Garam Jahad's revelations on the Floor of Death are at all accurate, Jahad is confirmed to have done things like tricked his subjects to kill each other to maintain his own power and literally murdered a baby.

** The Great Family leader, Arie Hon. Was he being a {{Jerkass}} to Hoaqin telling his son that he will never be able to make something of himself without being a criminal by telling Hoaquin to become a demon, or was it a [[SecretTestOfCharacter test]], and challenge for Hoaquin, to live under the family, and grow strong enough by developing his own power to one day exceed father? Hon's GlowingEyes of doom might have meant the former, but the scene happening in the flashback from another character point of view might skew the scene toward the character interpretation being that of the latter.
*** As of the Last Station, [[spoiler: another flashback from White/Hoaquin reveals it's certainly the former, although the surprise is that Hoaquin actually [[{{UsedToBeASweetKid}} interpreted it as the latter]]. Well almost, Hoaquin interpreted it as leaving the family to the Outer Tower to establish a kingdom of his own, and train his abilities as a [[{{TheGoodKing}} ruler who looks after his subjects]], like how Arie Hon is the greatest[[note]]In terms of ranking, his virtuous strength is... questionable[[/note]] Family Head out of the Ten Great Families. Arie Hon immediately shuts that idea down, tells his son that he literally saw the threads of a demon within him, and tells Hoaquin to indulge it and become a soul eating monster fueled by the resentment to towards Hon himself, ''even if he's destined to fail''. Yikes.]]

* FridgeBrilliance:
** Ja Wangnan's shinsu bombs were completely ineffective against Jue Viole Grace, and yet when he used a far weaker regular bomb, it did a fair bit of damage to him. Viole/[[spoiler:Bam]] is completely immune to shinsu so of course the shinsu bomb wouldn't do anything.
** Horyang has a crush on Goseng. Seems like pretty standard comic relief at first, until we find out about Teddy's past, and [[spoiler: Sophia Amae, his first love, who Goseng happens to resemble.]]
** On the twentieth floor, originally S.I.U. had planned for Love to mistake Viole for a girl and for Augusgus to correct him, as foreshadowing that Augusgus was a spy from [=FUG=]. Although this was changed because he thought it was too obvious, there is still a leftover of this original plan - Viole is assigned to the same room as Yiwha, a girl.
** It seems strange that Grace Mirchea Luslec would rename Bam to Jue Viole Grace, but didn't give his family name to anyone else. While this could be attributed to the fact that Bam needed to hide his identity, Luslec didn't have to give his own last name to a Slayer candidate and instead could have used a different name. [[spoiler:With the reveal that Bam is probably Grace Arlen's son, Luslec's decision makes a lot more sense, since Bam is biologically part of the Grace family.]]

* {{Woolseyism}}: The Company leaves a ''lot'' of translation notes in their scans explaining their localizations, and are quite good at adapting the many Korean cultural references to fit an English reader's context. See Volume 2, Chapter 13 for a particularly awesome example.

** Even more so during The Nest, where Bam[[spoiler:'s transformation ability which he got from Baylord Doom manifests a shield in order block an attack from Kallavan, just after ''thinking'' that he needed some kind of defense.]] While all of his other abilities have had at least a semi-solid foundation, for some the shield seriously veers into {{New Powers As The Plot Demands}} territory.

** The ''Revolution Road'' segment, the first part of six, got this feeling from some readers due to its sluggish pacing, especially the portion when Bam first arrived at Train City. The result was the StoryArc on its own being the longest in the whole series so far being about 40 chapters long.

* AssPull: How some people feel towards the plot-twist during the Hell Train's ''Dallar Show'' arc, where Bam is suddenly handed [[spoiler:[[NextTierPowerUp the power of the billion souls]] Hoaqin sacrificed over the years, allowing him to be defeated]].

** There's a fairly large divide between those who believe the series gets better and more crazy after Season 1 with Bam's new incredible power and edgy attitude, or if the story becomes too convoluted with arcs lasting too long and fan favorite characters from the first season not reappearing for an extremely long time. It does not help that the first test after the timeskip is seen as hard to follow with the sheer amount of new characters introduced.

* MagnificentBastard: Khun, you suave, sharp-witted, manipulative, scheming son of a tyrant. He [[spoiler:managed to hide several allies in his bag and let them out later as to reduce the number of participants in the test without killing and to help his team win the Crown Game, managed to get Rak, who was out to kill him, on his team, tricked Quant into protecting Rachel and improved Bam's chances by making his team lose without endangering his or Anak's chances, made it so that Bam and Rachel could take the Guardian's Exam and manipulated the rest into helping them]]. On the other hand, ''he himself'' sometimes seems to see himself as a SmugSnake, admitting that there's something fundamentally missing from many of his plans -- he has a tendency to lose sight of what he ultimately wants (or to fail to consider what he ''should'' ultimately want) while obsessively focusing on the immediate problem in front of him. Rak calls him out on this when pointing out that his plan to make his cousin (who he loved) into a princess was ultimately self-defeating.
%%** Headon might count too. We don't know, since he is one big, creepy rabbit.
%%** Yu Hang-Sun.

** "X will be the Heroine/Love Interest" was spawned from the numerous, ''numerous'' redundant [=WMG=] posts on it, to the point that very few people take them seriously anymore. (Although it can technically be traced back to [[{{ShrugOfGod}} SIU stating]] that ''Rak'' was the heroine [[{{OlderThanTheyThink}} during a Fancafe in 2013]].)

** Ssong and Charlotte from the ''Floor of Death'' arc was a bit of a missed opportunity. Ssong had wanted to escape the Floor of Death in order to finally return to climbing the Tower while Charlotte is the opposite as someone who'd given up on possibly ever escaping. Unfortunately by the end of the arc, both are completely glossed over as neither take the chance to finally leave the Floor when it was time for Bam's group to leave.