History YMMV / Touhou

27th May '16 4:48:41 PM nombretomado
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*** The decision to include Reisen Udongein Inaba as a playable character in the PS4 version of ''Urban Legend in Limbo'' rubbed a portion of the random the wrong way - either because she is already playable in ''Scarlet Weather Rhapsody'' and ''Hisoutensoku'' and people would prefer someone who wasn't in a fighting game before to take that slot or because of the high propability that she might become a PS4-exclusive character to bait people into buying the game on PS4.

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*** The decision to include Reisen Udongein Inaba as a playable character in the PS4 [=PS4=] version of ''Urban Legend in Limbo'' rubbed a portion of the random the wrong way - either because she is already playable in ''Scarlet Weather Rhapsody'' and ''Hisoutensoku'' and people would prefer someone who wasn't in a fighting game before to take that slot or because of the high propability that she might become a PS4-exclusive [=PS4=]-exclusive character to bait people into buying the game on PS4.[=PS4=].
22nd May '16 11:23:48 PM AnoBakaDesu
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* FanNickname: The characters of ''Touhou'' are collectively referred to as "touhous."
22nd May '16 10:44:52 PM BlackBaroness
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* FanNickname: The characters of ''Touhou'' are collectively referred to as "touhous."
22nd May '16 1:38:34 AM Kijin
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** Sanae. Some like that she is a potential {{Foil}} for Reimu, a recent Gensokyo newcomer with connections with the outside world, and her increasingly eccentric behavior throughout the games. While detractors dislike that she is very similar to Reimu in appearance and job, her constant appearances during the Windows Two era, especially since many believe she replaced fan favorite Sakuya (despite the latter actually having ''more'' apperances and having been retired as a playable character for a while before Sanae took the third heroine position), and her focus in fan-art and works as well. This is a bit alleviated by not appearing in games between ''Ten Desires'' and ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'', with mostly positive response about her reapperance in the latter (it helps that she appeared alongside Youmu and Reisen as playables respectively).

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** Sanae. Some like that she is a potential {{Foil}} for Reimu, a recent Gensokyo newcomer with connections with the outside world, and her increasingly eccentric behavior throughout the games. While detractors dislike that she is very similar to Reimu in appearance and job, her constant appearances during the Windows Two era, especially since many believe she replaced fan favorite Sakuya (despite the latter actually having ''more'' apperances appearances and having been retired as a playable character for a while before Sanae took the third heroine position), and her focus in fan-art and works as well. This is a bit alleviated by not appearing in games between ''Ten Desires'' and ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'', with mostly positive response about her reapperance reappearance in the latter (it helps that she appeared alongside Youmu and Reisen as playables respectively).



** The ''Phantasmagoria'' games probably can cause an even bigger rift in the fandom than ''Ten Desires''. Some say it's the best thing ever happening in the series and want more versus shooters in the series, others shudder at the possibility everytime a new game is announced.

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** The ''Phantasmagoria'' games probably can cause an even bigger rift in the fandom than ''Ten Desires''. Some say it's the best thing ever happening in the series and want more versus shooters in the series, others shudder at the possibility everytime every time a new game is announced.



* DisappointingLastLevel: The general consensus is that ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'' would be a much better game if Junko, the final boss, was better designed. All but a few of her attacks are variations on expanding damnaku rings, which, as several big-name ''Touhou'' players have pointed out, are the easiest and quickest danmaku patterns to program. Most of them require ''extremely'' tight micrododging, which makes playing as anyone but Reimu painfully difficult and leads to a lot of clipping deaths.

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* DisappointingLastLevel: The general consensus is that ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'' would be a much better game if Junko, the final boss, was better designed. All but a few of her attacks are variations on expanding damnaku danmaku rings, which, as several big-name ''Touhou'' players have pointed out, are the easiest and quickest danmaku patterns to program. Most of them require ''extremely'' tight micrododging, which makes playing as anyone but Reimu painfully difficult and leads to a lot of clipping deaths.



** Sanae in ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom''. She has a mix of her ''UFO'' shottypes (Cobalt Spread unfocused, Sky Serpert focused, Wily Toad as bomb). Her unfocused shot has wide spread and her focused shot homes to the first enemy it sees, both which raze stage portions and are good against bosses while focusing more dodging and less on hitting the enemy. Her bomb has good duration and damage, but more importantly, it doesn't do damage right away, it has some set up time in which Sanae is invulnerable and can jump directly into the enemy danmaku, alowing her to easily get more than the 200 graze required to get life pieces.

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** Sanae in ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom''. She has a mix of her ''UFO'' shottypes shot types (Cobalt Spread unfocused, Sky Serpert Serpent focused, Wily Toad as bomb). Her unfocused shot has wide spread and her focused shot homes to the first enemy it sees, both which raze stage portions and are good against bosses while focusing more dodging and less on hitting the enemy. Her bomb has good duration and damage, but more importantly, it doesn't do damage right away, away and it has some set up time in which Sanae is invulnerable and can jump directly into the enemy danmaku, alowing allowing her to easily get more than the 200 graze required to get life pieces.



** The tenth game, ''Mountain of Faith'', generated discontent among fans because of the significant gameplay changes, such as linking the bomb system to weapon powerups, not having individualised bombs for each of the shot types, and making the continues send you back to the beginning of the level. Most notable was the removal of the "graze" system, where one is rewarded for getting close to bullets as often as possible without getting hit. This was thankfully put back in for ''Subterranean Animism'', where's it's actually the basis of the scoring system.

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** The tenth game, ''Mountain of Faith'', generated discontent among fans because of the significant gameplay changes, such as linking the bomb system to weapon powerups, not having individualised individualized bombs for each of the shot types, and making the continues send you back to the beginning of the level. Most notable was the removal of the "graze" system, where one is rewarded for getting close to bullets as often as possible without getting hit. This was thankfully put back in for ''Subterranean Animism'', where's it's actually the basis of the scoring system.



** The scoring system in ''Ten Desires'' requires that you spend most of the time near the top of the screen, meaning you have to rely on luck and memorisation to avoid getting hit, rather than skill. The time for deathbombing also becomes shorter. You basically need to have an instance of SuperReflexes to do it, by predicting your death and bombing ''just'' as you're hit. Otherwise, you'll just enter Trance mode (if applicable) and die.

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** The scoring system in ''Ten Desires'' requires that you spend most of the time near the top of the screen, meaning you have to rely on luck and memorisation memorization to avoid getting hit, rather than skill. The time for deathbombing also becomes shorter. You basically need to have an instance of SuperReflexes to do it, by predicting your death and bombing ''just'' as you're hit. Otherwise, you'll just enter Trance mode (if applicable) and die.
14th May '16 6:07:53 AM Oecchi
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** Despite being superficially American, Clownpiece is most popular in Japan, and she was the only newcomer aside from Sagume to penetrate the Top 25 in their popularity poll. During ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom's'' release, the Japanese twitter scene ''exploded'' with Clownpiece fan art. Despite all expectations, Clownpiece has only garnered lukewarm popularity in the States, because despite her America-themed design, the entire ''point'' of her design is that she is in ''many'' ways a caricature of how the rest of the world views America: she is indeed powerful, but she is also dumb, blonde, a clown, someone that tortures people and drives them insane, and all of her spellcards are either moon-landing-themed or ''prison-themed''.
11th May '16 1:27:07 PM Oecchi
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* DiscreditedMeme: Any meme having to do with Sakuya and pads is heading this way.

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Any meme having to do with Sakuya and pads is heading this way.
10th May '16 5:42:09 PM Critz
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*** The decision to include Reisen Udongein Inaba as a playable character in the PS4 version of ULiL rubbed a portion of the random the wrong way - either because she is already playable in ''Scarlet Weather Rhapsody'' and ''Hisoutensoku'' and people would prefer someone who wasn't in a fighting game before to take that slot or because of the high propability that she might become a PS4-exclusive character to bait people into buying the game on PS4.

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*** The decision to include Reisen Udongein Inaba as a playable character in the PS4 version of ULiL ''Urban Legend in Limbo'' rubbed a portion of the random the wrong way - either because she is already playable in ''Scarlet Weather Rhapsody'' and ''Hisoutensoku'' and people would prefer someone who wasn't in a fighting game before to take that slot or because of the high propability that she might become a PS4-exclusive character to bait people into buying the game on PS4.
10th May '16 5:41:14 PM Critz
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*** The decision to include Reisen Udongein Inaba as a playable character in the PS4 version of ULiL rubbed a portion of the random the wrong way - either because she is already playable in ''Scarlet Weather Rhapsody'' and ''Hisoutensoku'' and people would prefer someone who wasn't in a fighting game before to take that slot or because of the high propability that she might become a PS4-exclusive character to bait people into buying the game on PS4.



** Calling Aya and the main game playable characters other than Reimu and Marisa "ZUN's girlfriends" or outright ''sluts'' because ZUN gave them their share of spotlight got really old after said characters built up substantial fanbases on their own and the games' rosters became more varied over time. And of course, after ZUN ''got married and had a child''. Nowadays, as it's mostly used out of spite towards the characters, it's considered unfunny and frowned upon. [[note]]Except the rare cases where it's used in a respectful manner - such as the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjvdBdCCxE Anime Week Atlanta Q&A Panel]], where ZUN got jokingly asked which would be the two characters that he would most prefer to be trapped in a hot spring - to which he responded that it would be Reimu and Marisa.[[/note]]

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** Calling Aya and the main game playable characters other than Reimu and Marisa "ZUN's girlfriends" or outright ''sluts'' because ZUN gave them their share of spotlight got really old after said characters built up substantial fanbases on their own and the games' rosters became more varied over time. And of course, after ZUN ''got married and had a child''. Nowadays, as it's mostly used out of spite towards the characters, it's considered unfunny and frowned upon. [[note]]Except the rare cases where it's used in a respectful manner - such as the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjvdBdCCxE Anime Week Atlanta Q&A Panel]], where ZUN got jokingly asked which would be the two characters that he would most prefer to be trapped in a hot spring with - to which he responded that it would be Reimu and Marisa.[[/note]]
10th May '16 5:35:48 PM Critz
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** Calling Aya and the main game playable characters other than Reimu and Marisa "ZUN's girlfriends" or outright ''sluts'' because ZUN gave them their share of spotlight got really old after said characters built up substantial fanbases on their own and the games' rosters became more varied over time. And of course, after ZUN ''got married and had a child''. Nowadays, as it's mostly used out of spite towards the characters, it's considered unfunny and frowned upon. [[note]]Except the rare cases where it's used in a respectful manner - such as the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjvdBdCCxE Anime Week Atlanta Q&A Panel]], where ZUN got jokingly asked which would be the two characters that he would most prefer to be trapped in a hot spring.[[/note]]

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** Calling Aya and the main game playable characters other than Reimu and Marisa "ZUN's girlfriends" or outright ''sluts'' because ZUN gave them their share of spotlight got really old after said characters built up substantial fanbases on their own and the games' rosters became more varied over time. And of course, after ZUN ''got married and had a child''. Nowadays, as it's mostly used out of spite towards the characters, it's considered unfunny and frowned upon. [[note]]Except the rare cases where it's used in a respectful manner - such as the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjvdBdCCxE Anime Week Atlanta Q&A Panel]], where ZUN got jokingly asked which would be the two characters that he would most prefer to be trapped in a hot spring.spring - to which he responded that it would be Reimu and Marisa.[[/note]]
10th May '16 5:33:58 PM Critz
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** Calling Aya and the main game playable characters other than Reimu and Marisa "ZUN's girlfriends" or outright ''sluts'' because ZUN gave them their share of spotlight got really old after said characters built up substantial fanbases on their own and the games' rosters became more varied over time. And of course, after ZUN ''got married and had a child''. Nowadays, as it's mostly used out of spite towards the characters, it's considered unfunny and frowned upon. [[note]]Except the rare cases where it's used in a respectful manner - such as the [[http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/ZUN%27s_AWA_Q%26A_Panel Anime Week Atlanta Q&A Panel]], where ZUN got jokingly asked which would be the two characters that he would most prefer to be trapped in a hot spring.[[/note]]

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** Calling Aya and the main game playable characters other than Reimu and Marisa "ZUN's girlfriends" or outright ''sluts'' because ZUN gave them their share of spotlight got really old after said characters built up substantial fanbases on their own and the games' rosters became more varied over time. And of course, after ZUN ''got married and had a child''. Nowadays, as it's mostly used out of spite towards the characters, it's considered unfunny and frowned upon. [[note]]Except the rare cases where it's used in a respectful manner - such as the [[http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/ZUN%27s_AWA_Q%26A_Panel [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BjvdBdCCxE Anime Week Atlanta Q&A Panel]], where ZUN got jokingly asked which would be the two characters that he would most prefer to be trapped in a hot spring.[[/note]]
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