History YMMV / Touhou

11th Apr '18 1:28:37 PM IamTheCaligula
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** That said, ''the'' Dark Horse character of ''Subterranean Animism'' is, without a doubt, Koishi, who not only is regularily featured in the top 3 in character popularity polls, but even managed to beat both Marisa and Reimu for the top spot during the [=THwiki's=] 11th character popularity poll.
9th Feb '18 12:35:05 PM narm00
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** ''Alternative Facts in Eastern Utopia'' has also split the fanbase on a few things. It being [[AscendedFanboy illustrated by fan artists]] such as having a couple of [[PantyShot panty shots]] of Aya and an article has Miko giving a speech that heavily references modern politics. There is one camp that finds these moments hilarious and argue that because the book is written from [[CloudCuckoolander Aya's]] [[UnreliableNarrator perspective]] it is fine, while detractors argue that such things shouldn't be a part of Touhou canon and even go so far as to claim FanonDiscontinuity.

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** ''Alternative Facts in Eastern Utopia'' has also split the fanbase on a few things. It things, including it being [[AscendedFanboy illustrated by fan artists]] such as having with a couple of [[PantyShot panty shots]] of Aya Aya, and having an article has with Miko giving a speech that heavily references modern politics. There is one camp that finds these moments hilarious and argue that because the book is written from [[CloudCuckoolander Aya's]] [[UnreliableNarrator perspective]] it is fine, while detractors argue that such things shouldn't be a part of Touhou canon and even go so far as to claim FanonDiscontinuity.



** Shou with Ran. Ever since she appeared and was revealed to be Nazrin's master (though not originally), everybody started looking at them as the new Chen and Ran. Both Shou and Ran serve "Old Maids", Byakuren being the latest addition to said group, both are animal youkai and both are masters of a type of youkai you wouldn't exactly [[labelnote:expect at first.]]Ran is a kitsune/fox, the same family as a dog, and her shikigami Chen is a cat. Shou is a tiger, a feline, and her servant Nazrin is a mouse.[[/labelnote]]

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** Shou with Ran. Ever since she appeared and was revealed to be Nazrin's master (though not originally), everybody started looking at them as the new Chen and Ran. Both Shou and Ran serve "Old Maids", Byakuren Maids" (Byakuren being the latest addition to said group, group), both are animal youkai and both are masters of a type of youkai you wouldn't exactly [[labelnote:expect at first.]]Ran is a kitsune/fox, the same family as a dog, and her shikigami Chen is a cat. Shou is a tiger, a feline, and her servant Nazrin is a mouse.[[/labelnote]]



** On the 2018 Touhou Wiki popularity poll, Shion Yorigami hit ''15th place'', which is a surprise given how Antinomy of Common Flowers was just recently released at the time. It's more surprising that she hit the top twenty while her younger sister, Joon Yorigami is in 54th place, making this a rare case of siblings in a series being far apart in the polls as opposed to close together.

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** On the 2018 Touhou Wiki popularity poll, Shion Yorigami hit ''15th place'', which is a surprise given how Antinomy of Common Flowers was just recently released at the time. It's more surprising that she hit the top twenty while her younger sister, Joon sister Jo'on Yorigami is was in 54th place, making this a rare case of siblings in a series being far apart in the polls as opposed to close together.



** Out of all the characters from ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'' expected to appear outside of a brief cameo in a manga series, Clownpiece was the least, but she's a major character in ''Visionary Fairies in Shrine.

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** Out of all the characters from ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'' expected to appear outside of a brief cameo in a manga series, Clownpiece was the least, but she's a major character in ''Visionary Fairies in Shrine.Shrine''.
4th Feb '18 10:55:38 AM rmctagg09
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* On the 2018 Touhou Wiki popularity poll, Shion Yorigami hit ''15th place'', which is a surprise given how Antinomy of Common Flowers was just recently released at the time. It's more surprising that she hit the top twenty while her younger sister, Joon Yorigami is in 54th place, making this a rare case of siblings in a series being far apart in the polls as opposed to close together.

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* ** On the 2018 Touhou Wiki popularity poll, Shion Yorigami hit ''15th place'', which is a surprise given how Antinomy of Common Flowers was just recently released at the time. It's more surprising that she hit the top twenty while her younger sister, Joon Yorigami is in 54th place, making this a rare case of siblings in a series being far apart in the polls as opposed to close together.
3rd Feb '18 3:19:14 PM Remiliacastel
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* On the 2018 Touhou Wiki popularity poll, Shion Yorigami hit ''15th place'', which is a surprise given how Antinomy of Common Flowers was just recently released at the time. It's more surprising that she hit the top twenty while her younger sister, Joon Yorigami is in 54th place, making this a rare case of siblings in a series being far apart in the polls as opposed to close together.
2nd Feb '18 10:07:16 AM woerer1
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: One can be struck by this with how utterly cynical the backstory is.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: One can be struck by this with how dark and utterly cynical the backstory is.
25th Jan '18 9:19:20 PM HighCrate
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** [=McRolled=] was responsible for boosting the popularity of [[EnsembleDarkhorse Flandre Scarlet]], [[SignatureSong her theme]], [[GatewaySeries and the series in general]], but now [[DeaderThanDisco it's barely relevant to the Touhou fan community]]. [[WeirdAlEffect The irritation caused by the popularity of [=McRolled=] seeping into that of "U.N. Owen Was Her?"]] didn't help its case.

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** [=McRolled=] was responsible for boosting the popularity of [[EnsembleDarkhorse Flandre Scarlet]], [[SignatureSong her theme]], [[GatewaySeries and the series in general]], but now [[DeaderThanDisco it's barely relevant to the Touhou fan community]].community. [[WeirdAlEffect The irritation caused by the popularity of [=McRolled=] seeping into that of "U.N. Owen Was Her?"]] didn't help its case.
18th Jan '18 12:19:25 PM narm00
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** Okina Matara being both the FinalBoss and BonusBoss of ''Hidden Star of Four Seasons''. Detractors aay she's taking up a spot that could have been filled by a new character instead. The others say it's alright because it makes sense in the context of the story, and she has very different patterns in both fights, anyway.

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** Okina Matara being both the FinalBoss and BonusBoss of ''Hidden Star of Four Seasons''. Detractors aay say she's taking up a spot that could have been filled by a new character instead. The others say it's alright because it makes sense in the context of the story, and she has very different patterns in both fights, anyway.



** Shion Yorigami, the very goddess of poverty and misfortune. Despite being a guardian god meant to prevent financial ruin, her powers over the unlucky causes people to despise her, and her own little sister Jo'on doesn't treat her well either. Usually depressive and apathetic, desperation drove her to help Jo'on with her scam plot and attempt to get some of of the fortune for herself so she can escape her eternal lacking. Once that plot failed, Jo'on had a massive tirade against Shion, finally pushing her over the edge and causing the stored-up negativity and misfortune to begin bursting, fueled by Shion's anger and despair.

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** Shion Yorigami, the very goddess of poverty and misfortune. Despite being a guardian god meant to prevent financial ruin, her powers over the unlucky causes bad luck cause people to despise her, and her own little sister Jo'on doesn't treat Jo'on's relationship with her well either. is... mixed, at best. Usually depressive and apathetic, desperation drove her to help Jo'on with her scam plot and attempt to get some of of the fortune for herself so she can could escape her eternal lacking. Once that plot failed, Jo'on had a massive tirade against Shion, finally pushing her over the edge and causing the stored-up negativity and misfortune to begin bursting, fueled by Shion's anger and despair.
13th Jan '18 11:02:12 AM Chabal2
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* MemeticLoser: [[TheOjou Kaguya Houraisan]]. In canon, she's an [[{{Immortality}} immortal]] lunar princess with powerful time-warping abilities, and actually one of the harder bosses in higher difficulties. In fanon, she's a NEET who can't do anything but "[[MemeticMutation HELP ME, EIRIN!!]]".

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* MemeticLoser: [[TheOjou Kaguya Houraisan]]. In canon, she's an [[{{Immortality}} immortal]] lunar princess with powerful time-warping abilities, and actually one of the harder bosses in higher difficulties. In fanon, she's a NEET who can't do anything but "[[MemeticMutation HELP ME, EIRIN!!]]".EIRIN!!]]", though most works portray Mokou as losing to her more often than not.
11th Jan '18 2:56:32 AM TrueShadow1
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** ''Alternative Facts in Eastern Utopia'' has also split the fanbase on a few things. It being [[AscendedFanboy illustrated and written by fan artists]] allows it to play a little more loose with Touhou canon, such as having a couple of [[PantyShot panty shots]] of Aya and Miko giving a speech that heavily references modern politics. There is one camp that finds these moments hilarious and argue that because the book is written from [[CloudCuckoolander Aya's]] [[UnreliableNarrator perspective]] it is fine, while detractors argue that such things shouldn't be a part of Touhou canon and even go so far as to claim FanonDiscontinuity.

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** ''Alternative Facts in Eastern Utopia'' has also split the fanbase on a few things. It being [[AscendedFanboy illustrated and written by fan artists]] allows it to play a little more loose with Touhou canon, such as having a couple of [[PantyShot panty shots]] of Aya and an article has Miko giving a speech that heavily references modern politics. There is one camp that finds these moments hilarious and argue that because the book is written from [[CloudCuckoolander Aya's]] [[UnreliableNarrator perspective]] it is fine, while detractors argue that such things shouldn't be a part of Touhou canon and even go so far as to claim FanonDiscontinuity.



** Amaya Yukimura, the Stage 2 boss of Danmakufu 0.12m fangame VideoGame/JuuniJumon, used moon-oriented danmaku a good four years before Clownpiece and Hecatia did in ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom''.
*** Similarly, a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wdMkDdZQjQ joke Danmakufu ph3 script]] created during the demo release for ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'', meant to be a mocked-up "leaked" Extra Stage, also used moon danmaku, even using homing moons like in Hecatia's ThatOneAttack.

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** Amaya Yukimura, the Stage 2 boss of Danmakufu 0.12m fangame VideoGame/JuuniJumon, used moon-oriented danmaku a good four years before Clownpiece and Hecatia did in ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom''.
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Kingdom''. Similarly, a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wdMkDdZQjQ joke Danmakufu ph3 script]] created during the demo release for ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'', meant to be a mocked-up "leaked" Extra Stage, also used moon danmaku, even using homing moons like in Hecatia's ThatOneAttack.ThatOneAttack.
** Since ''Double Dealing Character'' was released, artists often depict Raiko and the Tsukumo sisters as a rival band to the Prismriver sisters. In ''Alternative Facts in Eastern Utopia'', Raiko joined the Prismriver sisters as their fourth member.
10th Jan '18 6:36:44 PM theresearcher
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* AnticlimaxBoss: The TrueFinalBoss of ''Antinomy of Common Flower'' [[spoiler:The dream version of Tenshi Hinanawi who wanted to take over the world]] is a massive stepdown from the FinalBoss. Her spellcards are either really slow or just predictable.
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