History YMMV / Touhou

11th Dec '17 11:02:26 AM Anddrix
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Some fans detest the games for being exercises in masochism and being largely inaccessible[[note]]there are people who can't even reach Stage 3 in most games on Easy, even with all 3 continues[[/note]], but others love the games ''because'' of their NintendoHard BulletHell gameplay.
4th Dec '17 9:03:52 PM mlsmithca
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Western ''Touhou'' fans were very eager to hear ''Hidden Star in Four Seasons'' and ''Antimony of Common Flowers'' getting a UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} release.
4th Dec '17 5:36:32 AM Quanyails
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!!Examples that pertain to the story, {{Fanon}}, fandom, or other non-gameplay elements:

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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: Western ''Touhou'' fans were very eager to hear ''Hidden Star in Four Seasons'' and ''Antimony of Common Flowers'' getting a UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} release.




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1st Dec '17 12:22:46 AM LucaEarlgrey
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** Marisa's B type bomb in ''Double Dealing Character'', Magic Absorber, is this due to allowing a player to farm a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tASHLAad3k ridiculous]] amount of lives if they get the timing down for it and find the right spot.

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** Marisa's B type bomb in ''Double Dealing Character'', Magic Absorber, is this due to allowing a player to farm a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tASHLAad3k ridiculous]] amount of lives if they get the timing down for it and find the right spot. [[HardModePerks Her broken-ness increases on higher difficulty levels]], due to having more material to work with.
30th Nov '17 12:29:13 PM matteste
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The series feature some pretty extensive anti-discrimination messages, yet despite that, the series never name drops the issue and instead has it told entirely through metaphors and ShowDontTell.
19th Nov '17 12:58:03 PM woerer1
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*DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: One can be struck by this with how utterly cynical the backstory is.
19th Nov '17 10:18:48 AM narm00
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** Minamitsu Murasa. She's either CAPTAIN MINAMITSU MOTHERFUCKING MURASA, or she's {{Popeye}}'s [[http://safebooru.donmai.us/post/show/503850/ Daughter.]]

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** Minamitsu Murasa. She's either CAPTAIN MINAMITSU MOTHERFUCKING MURASA, or she's {{Popeye}}'s ComicStrip/{{Popeye}}'s [[http://safebooru.donmai.us/post/show/503850/ Daughter.daughter.]]
6th Nov '17 11:07:31 AM Larkmarn
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* PeripheryDemographic: ''Children'' are fans of Touhou, too. This may have been in part because of a ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' fan forum containing a thread linking to the demo for ''Perfect Cherry Blossom'' back in early 2003.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids:
** Children as young as ''8 years old'' are fans of the series. While there is content in ''Touhou'' that isn't exactly kid-friendly (death, suicide, youkai eating people), much of it is relegated to characters' backstories, so it isn't as bad as most examples. Just don't let your kids [[RuleThirtyFour look up fanart for too long]]...
** The demo for ''Perfect Cherry Blossom'' was free for download back in 2003 on a ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' forum thread that kids were frequenting. Needless to say, they had no idea what was going on.
4th Nov '17 10:50:00 AM narm00
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** In the ''Website/{{Pixiv}}'' community, there's a rivalry between ''Touhou'' fanartists and ''[[VideoGame/KantaiCollection KanColle]]'' fanartists. If you happen to be a ''Kancolle'' fanartist who once drew ''Touhou'' fanart a lot, be prepare to have several zealous ''Touhou'' fanartists accusing you for abandoning ''Touhou'' fanart and switching side to drawing only ''Kancolle'' fanart. Ironically, [[WordOfGod ZUN has said]] that he thinks ''Touhou'' and ''Kancolle'' go well together.

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** In the ''Website/{{Pixiv}}'' community, there's a rivalry between ''Touhou'' fanartists and ''[[VideoGame/KantaiCollection KanColle]]'' fanartists. If you happen to be a ''Kancolle'' fanartist who once drew ''Touhou'' fanart a lot, be prepare prepared to have several zealous ''Touhou'' fanartists accusing you for abandoning ''Touhou'' fanart and switching side sides to drawing only ''Kancolle'' fanart. Ironically, [[WordOfGod ZUN has said]] that he thinks ''Touhou'' and ''Kancolle'' go well together.



** In 2009, there was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRbjelU4ILs infamous graphic mod]] that replaced the all bullets, as well as point items and the player's hitbox, with black squares[[note]]The method of doing it was just laying a black box over the entire graphical sheets[[/note]], [[HilarityEnsues ending as you would expect it to]]. Come ''Hidden Star in Four Seasons'', and Okina's "Black Snowman"/"Snowman of Abnormal Snowfall" attack winds up utilizing initially-black bullets... ''[[ThatOneAttack ending as you would expect it to]].''
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** In 2009, there was [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRbjelU4ILs an infamous graphic mod]] that replaced all the all bullets, as well as point items and the player's hitbox, with black squares[[note]]The method of doing it was squares[[note]]done by just laying a black box boxes over the entire graphical sheets[[/note]], [[HilarityEnsues ending as you would expect it to]]. Come ''Hidden Star in Four Seasons'', and Okina's "Black Snowman"/"Snowman of Abnormal Snowfall" attack winds up utilizing initially-black bullets... ''[[ThatOneAttack ending as you would expect it to]].''
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** Some part of the audience is here for [[AwesomeMusic/TouhouProject its soundtrack]].

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** Some part of the audience is here for [[AwesomeMusic/TouhouProject [[AwesomeMusic/{{Touhou}} its soundtrack]].



** Sometimes the reverse happen as Yuuka's picture in ''Perfect Memento in Strict Sense'' and appearance in a stage in ''Hopeless Masquerade'' (where she smiles and waves) play up the moe than the vicious.

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** Sometimes the reverse happen happens, such as Yuuka's picture in ''Perfect Memento in Strict Sense'' and appearance in a stage in ''Hopeless Masquerade'' (where she smiles and waves) play playing up the moe than the vicious.



** The Village Humans, as a whole, are widely disliked for being [[PrimalFear overly fearful]] and [[AngerBornOfWorry whiny]], never acknowledging [[DudeWheresMyRespect any of the good Reimu does]], [[NeverAcceptedInHisHometown ignoring]] all the times Reimu has saved them, and always exaggerating the extent of her friendship with Youkai. One might even argue that her [[JerkAss shoot-on-sight]] attitude, on top of many of her other negative traits, are all thanks to their bitching, as she feels [[SlaveToPR pressured to appease them]] and subvert their expectations. Their fear and FantasticRacism is expected of them, and even encouraged to maintain Gensokyo's balance, but their insistence that Reimu doesn't do anything and lets Youkai run rampant has visibly [[KnightInSourArmor left a mark]] on her spirits.

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** The Village Humans, as a whole, are widely disliked for being [[PrimalFear overly fearful]] and [[AngerBornOfWorry whiny]], never acknowledging [[DudeWheresMyRespect any of the good Reimu does]], [[NeverAcceptedInHisHometown ignoring]] all the times Reimu has saved them, and always exaggerating the extent of her friendship with Youkai. One might even argue that her [[JerkAss shoot-on-sight]] attitude, on top of along with many of her other negative traits, are all thanks to their bitching, as she feels [[SlaveToPR pressured to appease them]] and subvert their expectations. Their fear and FantasticRacism is expected of them, and even encouraged to maintain Gensokyo's balance, but their insistence that Reimu doesn't do anything and lets Youkai run rampant has visibly [[KnightInSourArmor left a mark]] on her spirits.



** A generally agreed upon pair of Scrappies are the Watatsuki sisters from ''[[Manga/TouhouBougetsushou Silent Sinner in Blue]]'' and many of their traits can apply to the Lunarians as a whole. They are extremely [[FantasticRacism xenophobic]] jerks who observe anything other than them as "impure". They are also ungodly powerful, capable of taking the main characters on at the same time and easily winning and even outsmarting [[TheStrategist Yukari]]. ZUN had to concede that he would never put the two in a game because of these. And even though ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'' does feature the Lunarians, the two sisters are not even mentioned in the game and the race as a whole are treated as a bit of {{Butt Monkey}}s by the real instigators of the plot by being driven off the moon by '''fairies'''.

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** A generally agreed upon pair of Scrappies are the Watatsuki sisters from ''[[Manga/TouhouBougetsushou Silent Sinner in Blue]]'' and many of their traits can apply to the Lunarians as a whole. They are extremely [[FantasticRacism xenophobic]] jerks who observe anything other than them as "impure". They are also ungodly powerful, capable of taking the main characters on at the same time and easily winning and even outsmarting [[TheStrategist Yukari]]. ZUN had to concede that he would never put the two in a game because of these. And even though ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'' does feature the Lunarians, the two sisters are not even mentioned in the game and the race as a whole are treated as a bit of like {{Butt Monkey}}s by the real instigators of the plot by being driven off the moon by '''fairies'''.



* {{Shipping}}: A ''lot'' of it in this fandom, despite how canon works strictly adhere to NoHuggingNoKissing. While [[WordOfGod ZUN]] has said he doesn't mind all the shipping the fandom does, he isn't interested in participating himself since he sees the characters as his kids. See the [[{{HoYay/Touhou}} Ho Yay]] page, and the [[http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Relationshipping Touhou Wiki]] for full details and {{Portmanteau Couple Name}}s. Commonly used ShippingTropes include:

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* {{Shipping}}: A ''lot'' of it in this fandom, despite how canon works strictly adhere to NoHuggingNoKissing. While [[WordOfGod ZUN]] has said he doesn't mind all the shipping the fandom does, he isn't interested in participating himself since he sees the characters as his kids. See the [[{{HoYay/Touhou}} Ho Yay]] page, page and the [[http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Relationshipping Touhou Wiki]] for full details and {{Portmanteau Couple Name}}s. Commonly used ShippingTropes include:



*** Wriggle is often paired up with ''[[AxeCrazy Yuuka]]'', of all people. FridgeBrilliance kicks in once you realize that Yuuka's power is tied to flowers, Wriggle is a firefly, and flowers rely on insects to pollinate.

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*** Wriggle is often paired up with ''[[AxeCrazy ''[[AxCrazy Yuuka]]'', of all people. FridgeBrilliance kicks in once you realize that Yuuka's power is tied to flowers, Wriggle is a firefly, and flowers rely on insects to pollinate.



** The demo for ''Perfect Cherry Blossom'' was free for download back in 2003 on a ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' forum thread, that kids were frequenting. Needless to say, they had no idea what was going on.

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** The demo for ''Perfect Cherry Blossom'' was free for download back in 2003 on a ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' forum thread, thread that kids were frequenting. Needless to say, they had no idea what was going on.



** [[BrokenBase To some fans]], Okina showing up as the BonusBoss was a little uninspiring and think that her final fight would be better handled if it was someone else. It doesn't help her survival spell, the only one of ''HSIFS'', is considered among the worst and weakest survival spells, which leads to a player good enough to get to her fight bored for the duration of it.

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** [[BrokenBase To some fans]], Okina showing up as the BonusBoss was a little uninspiring uninspiring, and they think that her final fight would be better handled if it was someone else. It doesn't help her survival spell, the only one of ''HSIFS'', is considered among the worst and weakest survival spells, which leads to a player good enough to get to her fight bored for the duration of it.



** Much less severe, but Marisa's teamup with Alice in ''Imperishable Night'' has access to another highly damaging exploit, which fans have dubbed the [[PortmanteauCoupleName Malice Cannon]]
*** Subverted is that without it, they're under damaging compared to other teams for the effort needed.

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** Much less severe, but Marisa's teamup with Alice in ''Imperishable Night'' has access to another highly damaging exploit, which fans have dubbed the [[PortmanteauCoupleName Malice Cannon]]
Cannon]].
*** Subverted is in that without it, the exploit, they're under damaging compared to other teams for the effort needed.
3rd Nov '17 5:23:35 PM Arcana4th
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* SignatureScene: Yukari's ''Barrier "Boundary of Life and Death"'' is this not only to this fandom, but also to the BulletHell genre as a whole (it's the page image in this very wiki). It's almost impossible not to come across images of it while walking around the fandom. Googling either "Touhou" or "Bullet Hell" will lead you to seeing it.



* DisappointingLastLevel: The general consensus is that ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'' would be a much better game if Junko, the final boss, was better designed. All but a few of her attacks are variations on expanding danmaku rings, which, as several big-name ''Touhou'' players have pointed out, are the easiest and quickest danmaku patterns to program. Most of them require ''extremely'' tight micrododging, which makes playing as anyone but Reimu painfully difficult and leads to a lot of clipping deaths.

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The general consensus is that ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'' would be a much better game if Junko, the final boss, was better designed. All but a few of her attacks are variations on expanding danmaku rings, which, as several big-name ''Touhou'' players have pointed out, are the easiest and quickest danmaku patterns to program. Most of them require ''extremely'' tight micrododging, which makes playing as anyone but Reimu painfully difficult and leads to a lot of clipping deaths.
** [[BrokenBase To some fans]], Okina showing up as the BonusBoss was a little uninspiring and think that her final fight would be better handled if it was someone else. It doesn't help her survival spell, the only one of ''HSIFS'', is considered among the worst and weakest survival spells, which leads to a player good enough to get to her fight bored for the duration of it.
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