History YMMV / Tootsie

21st Nov '17 12:52:14 PM ironballs16
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-->'''Hoffman''': When we got to that point and looked at it on screen, I was shocked that I wasn't more attractive. I said, 'Now you have me looking like a woman, now make me a beautiful woman.' Because I thought I should be beautiful. ... And they said to me, 'That's as good as it gets.' It was at that moment [[EurekaMoment I had an epiphany]], and I went home and started crying, talking to my wife. And I said I have to make this picture, and she said, 'Why?' And I said, 'Because I think I am an interesting woman when I look at myself on screen. And I know that if I met myself at a party, I would never talk to that character because she doesn't fulfill physically the demands that we're brought up to think women have to have in order for us to ask them out. She says, 'What are you saying?' I said, 'There's too many interesting women I have not had the experience to know in this life because I have been brainwashed. That movie was never a comedy for me.

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-->'''Hoffman''': When we got to that point and looked at it on screen, I was shocked that I wasn't more attractive. I said, 'Now you have me looking like a woman, now make me a beautiful woman.' Because I thought I should be beautiful. ... And they said to me, 'That's as good as it gets.' It was at that moment [[EurekaMoment I had an epiphany]], and I went home and started crying, talking to my wife. And I said I have to make this picture, and she said, 'Why?' And I said, 'Because I think I am an interesting woman when I look at myself on screen. And I know that if I met myself at a party, I would never talk to that character because she doesn't fulfill physically the demands that we're brought up to think women have to have in order for us to ask them out. She says, 'What are you saying?' I said, 'There's too many interesting women I have not had the experience to know in this life because I have been brainwashed. That movie was never a comedy for me. '
21st Nov '17 12:51:56 PM ironballs16
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* ValuesResonance: And on the flip-side of things, Hoffman gave an interview with AFI [[https://www.today.com/popculture/dustin-hoffmans-tearful-tootsie-interview-about-women-goes-viral-6C10578440 in which he broke down crying]] when he had a HeelRealization.
-->'''Hoffman''': When we got to that point and looked at it on screen, I was shocked that I wasn't more attractive. I said, 'Now you have me looking like a woman, now make me a beautiful woman.' Because I thought I should be beautiful. ... And they said to me, 'That's as good as it gets.' It was at that moment [[EurekaMoment I had an epiphany]], and I went home and started crying, talking to my wife. And I said I have to make this picture, and she said, 'Why?' And I said, 'Because I think I am an interesting woman when I look at myself on screen. And I know that if I met myself at a party, I would never talk to that character because she doesn't fulfill physically the demands that we're brought up to think women have to have in order for us to ask them out. She says, 'What are you saying?' I said, 'There's too many interesting women I have not had the experience to know in this life because I have been brainwashed. That movie was never a comedy for me.
7th Nov '17 12:21:08 PM NWolfman
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* ValuesDissonance: Granted, it's nowhere near as bad as other comedies in which the plot hinges on a cishetero man pretending to be a woman (we're looking at you, ''[[Film/AceVenturaPetDetective Ace Ventura]]''). Still, with the rise of visibility for transgender people, many of whom are frequently dogged with accusations of "pretending" to be a different gender, it's a little harder to find humor in this premise.

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* ValuesDissonance: Granted, it's nowhere near as bad as other comedies in which the plot hinges on a cishetero man pretending to be a woman (we're looking at you, ''[[Film/AceVenturaPetDetective Ace Ventura]]''). Still, with the rise of visibility for transgender people, many of whom are frequently dogged with accusations of "pretending" to be a different gender, it's a little harder to find humor in this premise. It doesn't help that it's near impossible for trans actors to get roles reflective of their genders, up to and including ''as'' trans characters.
6th Oct '17 11:21:15 PM NWolfman
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* ValuesDissonance: Granted, it's nowhere near as bad as other comedies in which the plot hinges on a cishetero man pretending to be a woman (we're looking at you, ''[[Film/AceVenturaPetDetective Ace Ventura]]''). Still, with the rise of visibility for transgender people, many of whom are frequently dogged with accusations of "pretending" to be a different gender, it's a little harder to find humor in this premise.
17th Aug '17 10:08:45 AM ClintEastwood
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* LargeHam: Sandy's speech when she is told about "the other woman".
17th Aug '17 10:07:43 AM ClintEastwood
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: There are many scenes in this movie which are rewind-worthy. Favorites include when Dorothy tells Ron off during her audition after he calls her too gentle, when she tells Ron that she would like to be called by her name, not "honey" or "tootsie," and, of course, TheReveal.



* RetroactiveRecognition: A pre-''[[Series/TheGoldenGirls Golden Girls]]'' Estelle Getty has a bit part as one of the couples seen dancing late in the film, and is pretty recognizable.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: RetroactiveRecognition:
** One of Creator/GeenaDavis' earliest roles as "Dorothy"'s castmate.
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A pre-''[[Series/TheGoldenGirls Golden Girls]]'' Estelle Getty has a bit part as one of the couples seen dancing late in the film, and is pretty recognizable.
14th Jun '17 8:39:08 AM mouschilight
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-->'''Jeff''': I don't like it when people come up to me after my plays and say, "I really dug your message, man." Or, "I really dug your play, man, I cried." You know. I like it when people come up to me the next day, or a week later, and they say, "I saw your play. What happened?"

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-->'''Jeff''': I don't like it when people come up to me after my plays and say, "I really dug your message, man." Or, "I really dug your play, man, I cried." You know. I like it when people come up to me the next day, or a week later, and they say, "I saw your play. What happened?"happened?"
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28th Jan '17 11:24:36 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* OneSceneWonder: Well, technically a ''Two''-Scene Wonder; Geena Davis (in her film debut) as the sexy, underwear-clad costar sharing Dorothy's dressing room.

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* OneSceneWonder: Well, technically a ''Two''-Scene Wonder; Geena Davis Creator/GeenaDavis (in her film debut) as the sexy, underwear-clad costar sharing Dorothy's dressing room.
13th Mar '16 10:32:53 PM Mdumas43073
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* OneSceneWonder: Well, technically a ''Two''-Scene Wonder; Geena Davis (in her film debut) as the sexy, underwear-clad costar who shares Dorothy's dressing room.

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* OneSceneWonder: Well, technically a ''Two''-Scene Wonder; Geena Davis (in her film debut) as the sexy, underwear-clad costar who shares sharing Dorothy's dressing room.
13th Mar '16 10:31:14 PM Mdumas43073
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/EstelleGetty is one of the couples dancing late in the film, and is pretty recognizable.

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* OneSceneWonder: Well, technically a ''Two''-Scene Wonder; Geena Davis (in her film debut) as the sexy, underwear-clad costar who shares Dorothy's dressing room.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/EstelleGetty is A pre-''[[Series/TheGoldenGirls Golden Girls]]'' Estelle Getty has a bit part as one of the couples seen dancing late in the film, and is pretty recognizable.
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