History YMMV / TomAndJerry

2nd Jun '18 2:57:51 AM annette12
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** Spike could probably count, as well, always putting the blame on Tom even when there's no proof he bothered him.
*** For Tom's fans, Spike is definitely an annoyance. He treats Jerry well yet is always a {{Jerkass}} to Tom, hitting him, scolding him, bullying him when Tom never does anything to him in the first place. In fact, there are many viewers who like both Tom and Jerry but dislike Spike, thinking that the war between Tom and Jerry is none of his business.
** Heck, anyone who touches the cat. (And isn't the mouse.)
** Heck, ANYONE who is a human! For [[WesternAnimation/TomAndJerryTheMovie various]] [[HumansAreBastards reasons]]. The worst being Clint Clobber, who would assault Tom in ways that are way too harsh to be funny.

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** Spike could probably count, as well, always putting the blame on Tom even when there's no proof he bothered him.
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For Tom's fans, Spike is definitely an annoyance. He treats Jerry well yet is always a {{Jerkass}} to Tom, hitting him, scolding him, bullying him when Tom never does anything to him in the first place. In fact, there are many viewers who like both Tom and Jerry but dislike Spike, thinking that the war between Tom and Jerry is none of his business.
** Heck, anyone who touches the cat. (And isn't the mouse.)
** Heck, ANYONE who is a human! For [[WesternAnimation/TomAndJerryTheMovie various]] [[HumansAreBastards reasons]]. The worst being
Clint Clobber, who would assault Tom in ways that are way too harsh to be funny.
2nd Jun '18 2:53:46 AM annette12
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* RonTheDeathEater: While Jerry is by no means a saint, fans tend to make him out to be an outright malicious monster simply for going overboard with his retaliations against Tom regardless of whether or not it was provoked.

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* RonTheDeathEater: While Jerry is by no means a saint, fans tend to make him out to be an outright malicious monster simply for going overboard with his retaliations against Tom regardless of whether or not it was provoked. Many fans also claim that Jerry is actually the bad guy and the instigator in ''all'' their altercations. The truth is that neither one is by any means innocent, being victim and provoker in almost equal measure, but Tom just gets the DracoInLeatherPants pass because he's an IneffectualSympatheticVillain and gets more abuse.
22nd Apr '18 5:44:21 AM Dallenson
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** The loud rifle crack when someone takes a massive hit from something or a few other instances like a light bulb breaking or an actual gun going off.
16th Apr '18 7:08:46 AM themisterfree
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** The Filmation show gets more disowners. It started the trend of other MGM cartoon characters entering into the franchise, but it seems people think it was better handled later.

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** The Filmation show gets more disowners. It started the trend of [[{{Transplant}} other MGM cartoon characters entering into the franchise, franchise]], but it seems people think it was better handled later.



** And finally in the recent incarnations, the DTV features and ''Tom & Jerry Tales'' are in decent standing with plenty of people on the other side.

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** And finally in finally, the recent incarnations, the DTV features and ''Tom & Jerry Tales'' are in decent standing with plenty of people on the other side.



** On the same extent the DTV line is still running with that good old fashioned HB polarizing attitude in full effect. With some questioning why it even still continues to exist while others support it every year and dismiss the haters as an internet periphery.

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** On To the same extent extent, the DTV line is still running with that good old fashioned HB polarizing attitude in full effect. With effect, with some questioning why it even still continues to exist exist, while others support it every year and dismiss the haters as an internet periphery.



** "Tom and Jerry meet Sherlock Holmes" gets a pretty noticeable case of this if you happen to be a ''Literature/SherlockHolmes'' fan. In one scene, Holmes mentions the case of the Red-Headed League and Watson responds that it was a crime perpetrated by Holmes' nemesis, Moriarity. The Red-Headed League caper was actually masterminded by a criminal named John Clay. However, this could be a reference to the 1985 adaption starring Jeremy Brett, where Moriarty was the mastermind, with Clay being his pupil.

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** "Tom ''Tom and Jerry meet Meet Sherlock Holmes" Holmes'' gets a pretty noticeable case of this if you happen to be a ''Literature/SherlockHolmes'' fan. In one scene, Holmes mentions the case of the Red-Headed League and Watson responds that it was a crime perpetrated by Holmes' nemesis, Moriarity. The Red-Headed League caper was actually masterminded by a criminal named John Clay. However, this could be a reference to the 1985 adaption starring Jeremy Brett, where Moriarty was the mastermind, with Clay being his pupil.



* FandomRivalry: In an odd example Tom and Jerry and their fellow MGM characters are in the middle of one. Namely because even though the MGM cartoons are legally in their own Time Warner library there is next to no use of MGM as a brand. As a result Warner Bros and fans tend to lump them either in with ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' due to being from the same era and influence of Tex Avery, etc or with ''Creator/HannaBarbera'' because they created Tom and Jerry and their company and/or the men themselves touched a lot of the recurring MGM characters at some point. These two fandoms have some issues regularly but there is some animosity which one Tom and Jerry and friends are better off with.
** Warner Brothers originally seemed to split the difference in home media. As they put MGM cartoons as extras on Looney Tunes blurays but also moved their planned dvd releases to the Warner Archive when most the Hanna Barbera library went. Probably assuming one way or another they'd work their ways out.[[note]]Outside of Tom and Jerry and Droopy neither have hit paydirt yet.[[/note]] Presently it seems Warner Brothers is lumping them more in with Hanna Barbera as witnessed by having Tom and Jerry cross over with ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest'' and having Tom and Jerry items show up on Wbshop when you select Hanna Barbera. In mid 2017 they also rebranded the Tom and Jerry Spotlight Collection into the Hanna Barbera Diamond Collection.

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* FandomRivalry: In an odd example example, Tom and Jerry and their fellow MGM characters are in the middle of one. Namely because even though the MGM cartoons are legally in their own Time Warner library property (via their acquisition of [[UsefulNotes/TedTurner Turner Broadcasting]] in 1996), there is [[WritingAroundTrademarks next to no use of MGM as a brand. brand]] ([[ScrewedByTheLawyers likely because MGM still exists as a separate company]]). As a result result, Warner Bros Bros. and fans tend to lump them either in with ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'', due to being from the same era and influence of Tex Avery, etc etc., or with ''Creator/HannaBarbera'' Creator/HannaBarbera because they created Tom ''Tom and Jerry Jerry'' and their company and/or the men themselves touched a lot worked on many of the recurring MGM characters at some point. These two fandoms have some issues regularly but there is some animosity which one Tom and Jerry and friends are better off with.
** Warner Brothers Bros. originally seemed to split the difference in home media. As media-- they put MGM cartoons as extras on Looney Tunes blurays ''Looney Tunes'' Blu-Rays but also moved their planned dvd DVD releases to the Warner Archive when where most of the Hanna Barbera Hanna-Barbera library went. Probably assuming was released, likely assuming, one way or another another, they'd work their ways out.see which approach worked.[[note]]Outside of Tom ''Tom and Jerry Jerry'' and Droopy ''Droopy'', neither have approach has hit paydirt yet.[[/note]] Presently it seems Warner Brothers WB is lumping them more in with Hanna Barbera Hanna-Barbera, as witnessed by having Tom ''Tom and Jerry Jerry'' [[WesternAnimation/TomAndJerrySpyQuest cross over with with]] ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest'' and having Tom ''Tom and Jerry Jerry'' items show up on Wbshop when you select Hanna Barbera. Hanna-Barbera. In mid 2017 2017, they also rebranded the Tom ''Tom and Jerry Spotlight Collection Collection'' into the Hanna ''Hanna Barbera Diamond Collection.Collection''.



** The fifties era Hanna Barbara shorts gained a better grasp of the grey dynamic between the two. The slapstick was more free game, Tom usually avoided being a DesignatedVillain, with Jerry either having a more benevolent personality or being punished whenever he surpassed Tom's mean streak. Their FriendlyEnemy chemistry was also displayed on a more regular basis. Most of the supporting characters had also been fully established and different backdrops from the usual household were frequently used, making for less formulaic scenarios.

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** The fifties era Hanna Barbara Hanna-Barbera shorts gained a better grasp of the grey dynamic between the two. The slapstick was more free game, Tom usually avoided being a DesignatedVillain, with Jerry either having a more benevolent personality or being punished whenever he surpassed Tom's mean streak. Their FriendlyEnemy chemistry was also displayed on a more regular basis. Most of the supporting characters had also been fully established and different backdrops from the usual household were frequently used, making for less formulaic scenarios.



** Used to be the #1 Cat Cartoon in Japan. Then from the shadows a [[WesternAnimation/TheAmazingWorldOfGumball weirder talking cat]] took the crown.

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** Used to be the #1 Cat Cartoon in Japan. Then from the shadows a [[WesternAnimation/TheAmazingWorldOfGumball weirder talking cat]] took the crown. (Even funnier is that show and ''T&J'' are both on Cartoon Network.)



** [[NightmareFuel "Doooon't youuuu believe it!"]] [[OlderThanTheyThink That meme was actually started by a radio show debunking WWII propaganda.]]

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** [[NightmareFuel "Doooon't youuuu believe it!"]] [[OlderThanTheyThink ([[OlderThanTheyThink That meme was actually started by a radio show debunking WWII propaganda.]]]])



** Averted with "The House Trap" on the [=PS1=], which is a decently fun Spy vs Spy clone with a well-designed home level.
** Also averted with Fists of Furry on the [=N64=]. A Tom and Jerry fighting game might sound like a recipe for disaster, but the end result is a competent ''VideoGame/PowerStone'' clone with the cartoon's slapstick elements mixing into the formula very nicely. Later got a spiritual sequel in [=PS2=] and Gamecube as War of the Whiskers.

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** Averted with "The ''The House Trap" Trap'' on the [=PS1=], which is a decently fun Spy ''Spy vs Spy Spy'' clone with a well-designed home level.
** Also averted with Fists ''Fists of Furry Furry'' on the [=N64=]. A Tom ''Tom and Jerry Jerry'' fighting game might sound like a recipe for disaster, but the end result is a competent ''VideoGame/PowerStone'' clone with the cartoon's slapstick elements mixing into the formula very nicely. Later It later got a spiritual sequel in for the [=PS2=] and Gamecube as War with ''War of the Whiskers.Whiskers''.



* RonTheDeathEater: While Jerry is by no names a saint, fans tend to make him out to be an outright malicious monster simply for going overboard with his retaliations against Tom regardless of whether or not it was provoked.

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* RonTheDeathEater: While Jerry is by no names means a saint, fans tend to make him out to be an outright malicious monster simply for going overboard with his retaliations against Tom regardless of whether or not it was provoked.



** The Babysitter who would ignore the baby and talk on the phone while [[EnemyMine Tom and Jerry would work together]] to try to steer the baby away from danger qualifies. She also repeatedly abuses Tom for [[UngratefulBitch saving the baby]] and blames [[NeverMyFault Tom and Jerry for endangering the baby when she's the one who never watches it]].

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** The Babysitter Jeannie, the babysitter who would ignore the baby and talk on the phone while [[EnemyMine Tom and Jerry would work together]] to try to steer the baby away from danger qualifies. She also repeatedly abuses Tom for [[UngratefulBitch saving the baby]] and blames [[NeverMyFault Tom and Jerry for endangering the baby when she's the one who never watches it]].



** In the case of "The Karate Guard", not only does the opening horn fanfare sound similar to the ones in the classic cartoons, but Warner Bros. designed their VanityPlate to look ''very'' identical to MGM's blue-background cartoon intro (they can't use the logo itself because MGM is still a separate company -- they just own the pre-1986 stuff thanks to the 1996 merger with Turner Broadcasting, who acquired the library in 1986 after having MGM/UA for 74 days, then returning it).
* ToughActToFollow: Like most cartoon seires' from UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, the original shorts are iconic. Any re-imaginings that followed are up for interpretation.

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** In the case of "The Karate Guard", not only does the opening horn fanfare sound similar to the ones in the classic cartoons, but Warner Bros. designed their VanityPlate to look ''very'' identical to MGM's blue-background cartoon intro (they ([[WritingAroundTrademarks they can't use the logo itself because because]] [[ScrewedByTheLawyers MGM is still a separate company company]] -- they just own the pre-1986 stuff thanks to the 1996 merger with [[UsefulNotes/TedTurner Turner Broadcasting, Broadcasting]], who acquired the library in 1986 after having MGM/UA for 74 days, then returning it).
* ToughActToFollow: Like most cartoon seires' series' from UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, the original shorts are iconic. Any re-imaginings that followed are up for interpretation.
2nd Apr '18 6:11:00 AM MsCC93
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Tom. It's been said that you know you're a grown-up when you watch [=T&J=] and start rooting for him. In the episode "Blue Cat Blues," Tom gets sympathy form fans for [[DidNotGetTheGirl not winning the affections of a female cat and losing her to Butch]]. While Tom is still sympathetic due to his apparent suicide attempt, you later realize that the female cat Tom was chasing after was a GoldDigger and very shallow (which makes Tom's failure to get the girl less sympathetic).

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Tom. It's been said that you know you're a grown-up when you watch [=T&J=] and start rooting for him. In him.
** Ziz-Zagged with Tom in
the episode "Blue Cat Blues," Blues." Tom gets sympathy form from fans for [[DidNotGetTheGirl not winning the affections of a female cat and losing her to Butch]]. While Tom is still sympathetic due to his apparent suicide attempt, you later realize that the female cat Tom was chasing after was a GoldDigger and very shallow (which ([[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic which makes Tom's failure to get the girl less sympathetic).sympathetic]]).
2nd Apr '18 6:06:19 AM MsCC93
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Tom. It's been said that you know you're a grown-up when you watch [=T&J=] and start rooting for him.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Tom. It's been said that you know you're a grown-up when you watch [=T&J=] and start rooting for him. In the episode "Blue Cat Blues," Tom gets sympathy form fans for [[DidNotGetTheGirl not winning the affections of a female cat and losing her to Butch]]. While Tom is still sympathetic due to his apparent suicide attempt, you later realize that the female cat Tom was chasing after was a GoldDigger and very shallow (which makes Tom's failure to get the girl less sympathetic).
21st Mar '18 9:31:34 PM nombretomado
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** Also averted with Fists of Furry on the [=N64=]. A Tom and Jerry fighting game might sound like a recipe for disaster, but the end result is a competent PowerStone clone with the cartoon's slapstick elements mixing into the formula very nicely. Later got a spiritual sequel in [=PS2=] and Gamecube as War of the Whiskers.

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** Also averted with Fists of Furry on the [=N64=]. A Tom and Jerry fighting game might sound like a recipe for disaster, but the end result is a competent PowerStone ''VideoGame/PowerStone'' clone with the cartoon's slapstick elements mixing into the formula very nicely. Later got a spiritual sequel in [=PS2=] and Gamecube as War of the Whiskers.
6th Mar '18 7:28:42 PM nombretomado
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The {{SNES}} game is just another bland platformer, where the player, as Jerry, plays through a series of stages, running around until he hits the end of each stage and fights Tom. Along the way, he can pick up peas that he can use to throw at his enemies. The music is composed of nothing but random beeps. The game's multiplayer aspect is no better; to quote a Website/YouTube commentator:

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The {{SNES}} {{UsefulNotes/SNES}} game is just another bland platformer, where the player, as Jerry, plays through a series of stages, running around until he hits the end of each stage and fights Tom. Along the way, he can pick up peas that he can use to throw at his enemies. The music is composed of nothing but random beeps. The game's multiplayer aspect is no better; to quote a Website/YouTube commentator:
2nd Mar '18 3:21:14 AM Homemaderat
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*** Warner Brothers originally seemed to split the difference in home media. As they put MGM cartoons as extras on Looney Tunes blurays but also moved their planned dvd releases to the Warner Archive when most the Hanna Barbera library went. Probably assuming one way or another they'd work their ways out.[[note]]Outside of Tom and Jerry and Droopy neither have hit paydirt yet.[[/note]] Presently it seems Warner Brothers is lumping them more in with Hanna Barbera as witnessed by having Tom and Jerry cross over with ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest'' and having Tom and Jerry items show up on Wbshop when you select Hanna Barbera. In mid 2017 they also rebranded the Tom and Jerry Spotlight Collection into the Hanna Barbera Diamond Collection.

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*** ** Warner Brothers originally seemed to split the difference in home media. As they put MGM cartoons as extras on Looney Tunes blurays but also moved their planned dvd releases to the Warner Archive when most the Hanna Barbera library went. Probably assuming one way or another they'd work their ways out.[[note]]Outside of Tom and Jerry and Droopy neither have hit paydirt yet.[[/note]] Presently it seems Warner Brothers is lumping them more in with Hanna Barbera as witnessed by having Tom and Jerry cross over with ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest'' and having Tom and Jerry items show up on Wbshop when you select Hanna Barbera. In mid 2017 they also rebranded the Tom and Jerry Spotlight Collection into the Hanna Barbera Diamond Collection.
2nd Mar '18 3:20:24 AM Homemaderat
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* FandomRivalry:
** In an odd example Tom and Jerry and their fellow MGM characters are in the middle of one. Namely because even though the MGM cartoons are legally in their own Time Warner library there is next to no use of MGM as a brand. As a result Warner Bros and fans tend to lump them either in with ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' due to being from the same era and influence of Tex Avery, etc or with ''Creator/HannaBarbera'' because they created Tom and Jerry and their company and/or the men themselves touched a lot of the recurring MGM characters at some point. These two fandoms have some issues regularly but there is some animosity which one Tom and Jerry and friends are better off with.
** Warner Brothers originally seemed to split the difference in home media. As they put MGM cartoons as extras on Looney Tunes blurays but also moved their planned dvd releases to the Warner Archive when most the Hanna Barbera library went. Probably assuming one way or another they'd work their ways out.[[note]]Outside of Tom and Jerry and Droopy neither have hit paydirt yet.[[/note]]
** Nowadays it seems Warner Brothers is lumping them more in with Hanna Barbera as witnessed by having Tom and Jerry cross over with ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest'' and having Tom and Jerry items show up on Wbshop when you select Hanna Barbera. In mid 2017 they also rebranded the Tom and Jerry Spotlight Collection into the Hanna Barbera Diamond Collection.

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* FandomRivalry:
**
FandomRivalry: In an odd example Tom and Jerry and their fellow MGM characters are in the middle of one. Namely because even though the MGM cartoons are legally in their own Time Warner library there is next to no use of MGM as a brand. As a result Warner Bros and fans tend to lump them either in with ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' due to being from the same era and influence of Tex Avery, etc or with ''Creator/HannaBarbera'' because they created Tom and Jerry and their company and/or the men themselves touched a lot of the recurring MGM characters at some point. These two fandoms have some issues regularly but there is some animosity which one Tom and Jerry and friends are better off with.
** *** Warner Brothers originally seemed to split the difference in home media. As they put MGM cartoons as extras on Looney Tunes blurays but also moved their planned dvd releases to the Warner Archive when most the Hanna Barbera library went. Probably assuming one way or another they'd work their ways out.[[note]]Outside of Tom and Jerry and Droopy neither have hit paydirt yet.[[/note]]
** Nowadays
[[/note]] Presently it seems Warner Brothers is lumping them more in with Hanna Barbera as witnessed by having Tom and Jerry cross over with ''WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest'' and having Tom and Jerry items show up on Wbshop when you select Hanna Barbera. In mid 2017 they also rebranded the Tom and Jerry Spotlight Collection into the Hanna Barbera Diamond Collection.
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