History YMMV / TheTurnerDiaries

17th Aug '16 11:20:20 AM MasterNecromancer
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Considering the book's key premise is that "all non whites are inferior untermench who [[Series/DoctorWho WILL BE EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATE!!! EXTERMINATE!!!]]", and that all whites who take issue with this are just as subhuman in their "race treason" (and thus slated for extermination the same time as the Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc), this book has hardly been a fondly appreciated literary classic. Most bafflingly the book also [[PretenderDiss targets almost all white supremacists (i.e., its target audience) as being gutless cowards and drunks]] who will be swept away along with the untermench by the new "master race" which entirely consists of omnicidal Nazi psychopaths.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Considering the book's key premise is that "all non whites are inferior untermench untermenschen who [[Series/DoctorWho WILL BE EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATE!!! EXTERMINATE!!!]]", and that all whites who take issue with this are just as subhuman in their "race treason" (and thus slated for extermination the same time as the Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc), this book has hardly been a fondly appreciated literary classic. Most bafflingly bafflingly, the book also [[PretenderDiss targets almost all white supremacists (i.e., its target audience) as being gutless cowards and drunks]] who will be swept away along with the untermench untermenschen by the new "master race" which entirely consists of omnicidal Nazi psychopaths.



*** Also since Neo Nazism tends to attract fringe people, a lot of white supremacist ranks aren't filled with the brightest or most fit people. Especially fitting since Hitler himself didn't live up to his ideals of Aryan Purity.

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*** Also since Neo Nazism Neo-Nazism tends to attract fringe people, a lot of white supremacist ranks aren't filled with the brightest or most fit people. Especially fitting since Hitler himself didn't live up to his ideals of Aryan Purity.



* CrowningMomentOfFunny / {{Narm}}: THE ENTIRE BOOK. It's so stupid and impossible that it can stop being disturbing for readers and just a source of humor. Whether or not it's disturbing that neo nazis actually believe talking points in the book is another matter.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny / {{Narm}}: THE ENTIRE BOOK. It's so stupid and impossible that it can stop being disturbing for readers and just a source of humor. Whether or not it's disturbing that neo nazis Neo-Nazis actually believe talking points in the book is another matter.



* DesignatedHero[=/=]DesignatedVillain: Even with literally every single racist stereotype Neo Nazis have about blacks, jews, liberals, gays, feminists, non nazi white people, etc, in full effect and taken UpToEleven, the "villains" still seem far less evil and monstrous than the "heroes" due in no small part to the lack of omnicidal extermination campaigns.

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* DesignatedHero[=/=]DesignatedVillain: Even with literally every single racist stereotype Neo Nazis have about blacks, jews, liberals, gays, feminists, non nazi non-Nazi white people, etc, in full effect and taken UpToEleven, the "villains" still seem far less evil and monstrous than the "heroes" due in no small part to the lack of omnicidal extermination campaigns.



** Not only that but every single action any organization opposed to The Order does is incredibly stupid, to the point that organizations will actively do things that harm themselves for no real reason other than to crudely justify why the revolution is successful in the first place. Three man bands of racist revolutionaries are somehow able to walk right into military bases and steal massive quantities of weapons and even after being caught in the act escape relatively unscathed despite the fact they're driving heavy loaded down trucks full of unsecured explosives.

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** Not only that that, but every single action by any organization opposed to The Order does is incredibly stupid, to the point that organizations will actively do things that harm themselves for no real reason other than to crudely justify why the revolution is successful in the first place. Three man bands of racist revolutionaries are somehow able to walk right into military bases and steal massive quantities of weapons and even after being caught in the act escape relatively unscathed despite the fact they're driving heavy loaded down trucks full of unsecured explosives.



* OvershadowedByControversy: This book is probably best known for its association with Timothy [=McVeigh=], the Oklahoma City Bomber, and several other Neo-Nazi terrorists.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: This book is probably best known for its association with Timothy [=McVeigh=], the Oklahoma City Bomber, Bomber Timothy [=McVeigh=] and several other Neo-Nazi terrorists.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: To be expected in a novel with a white supremacist agenda. At one point, the attorney general of the United States government comes on television to describe the [[DesignatedHero heroes]] as "depraved, racist terrorists".

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: To be expected in a novel with a white supremacist agenda. At one point, the attorney general of the United States government comes on television to describe the [[DesignatedHero heroes]] as "depraved, racist terrorists".terrorists."
25th Jul '16 3:09:44 PM ThePest179
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: THE ENTIRE BOOK. It's so stupid and impossible that it can stop being disturbing for readers and just a source of humor. Whether or not it's disturbing that neo nazis actually believe talking points in the book is another matter.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: CrowningMomentOfFunny / {{Narm}}: THE ENTIRE BOOK. It's so stupid and impossible that it can stop being disturbing for readers and just a source of humor. Whether or not it's disturbing that neo nazis actually believe talking points in the book is another matter.
3rd Jul '16 7:41:50 PM Terran117
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: THE ENTIRE BOOK. It's so stupid and impossible that it can stop being disturbing for readers and just a source of humor. Whether or not it's disturbing that neo nazis actually believe talking points in the book is another matter.
3rd Jul '16 7:27:54 PM Terran117
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*** Also since Neo Nazism tends to attract fringe people, a lot of white supremacist ranks aren't filled with the brightest or most fit people. Especially fitting since Hitler himself didn't live up to his ideals of Aryan Purity.



* CanonSue: All the white people.



* ValuesDissonance: Partially because of the extreme political values, the book is incredibly divisive.

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* ValuesDissonance: Partially because of the extreme political values, the book is incredibly divisive. Although one should note most of the population was obviously repulsed by this book when it came out as well.
21st Jun '16 1:34:10 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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* HarsherInHindsight: Barring every attempt to make this book a SelfFulfillingProphecy, the climax of the book involves the protagonist flying a plane into the Pentagon. Making it worse, the book's author responded to the 9/11 attacks by ''writing in favor of al-Qaeda''. He did reject any notion that white supremacists should form an alliance with Arab terrorists, [[WeAREStrugglingTogether though only on the grounds that his racism overrode his desire for terrorism against Jews]]. This book also inspired Timothy McVeigh to orchestrate the Oklahoma City bombing, and few members of law enforcement were surprised; one FBI agent said that when he heard of the attack, he was reminded of the book "within the hour".

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* HarsherInHindsight: Barring every attempt to make this book a SelfFulfillingProphecy, the climax of the book involves the protagonist flying a plane into the Pentagon. Making it worse, the book's author responded to the 9/11 attacks by ''writing in favor of al-Qaeda''. He did reject any notion that white supremacists should form an alliance with Arab terrorists, [[WeAREStrugglingTogether though only on the grounds that his racism overrode his desire for terrorism against Jews]]. This book also inspired Timothy McVeigh [=McVeigh=] to orchestrate the Oklahoma City bombing, and few members of law enforcement were surprised; one FBI agent said that when he heard of the attack, he was reminded of the book "within the hour".
17th May '16 6:33:20 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* HarsherInHindsight: Barring every attempt to make this book a SelfFulfillingProphecy, the climax of the book involves the protagonist flying a plane into the Pentagon. Making it worse, the book's author responded to the 9/11 attacks by ''writing in favor of al-Qaeda''. He did reject any notion that white supremacists should form an alliance with Arab terrorists, [[WeAREStrugglingTogether though only on the grounds that his racism overrode his desire for terrorism against Jews]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: Barring every attempt to make this book a SelfFulfillingProphecy, the climax of the book involves the protagonist flying a plane into the Pentagon. Making it worse, the book's author responded to the 9/11 attacks by ''writing in favor of al-Qaeda''. He did reject any notion that white supremacists should form an alliance with Arab terrorists, [[WeAREStrugglingTogether though only on the grounds that his racism overrode his desire for terrorism against Jews]]. This book also inspired Timothy McVeigh to orchestrate the Oklahoma City bombing, and few members of law enforcement were surprised; one FBI agent said that when he heard of the attack, he was reminded of the book "within the hour".
23rd Mar '16 3:01:10 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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* AcceptableTargets: *[[LongList inhales deeply]]*... Jews, blacks, Hispanics, Chinese, Arabs, mixed-race people, liberals, conservatives, moderates, libertarians, communists, feminists, LGBTQ people, crossdressers, fetishists, sadomasochists, rednecks, interracial couples, the "unfit", and all white people who don't also hate the above.

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* AcceptableTargets: *[[LongList inhales deeply]]*... Jews, blacks, Hispanics, Chinese, Arabs, mixed-race people, liberals, conservatives, moderates, libertarians, communists, feminists, LGBTQ people, crossdressers, fetishists, sadomasochists, rednecks, interracial couples, the "unfit", "lesser" whites, and all white people who don't also hate the above.
18th Mar '16 1:53:54 PM hagagaga
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* VillainProtagonist: Because of the ValuesDissonance, this is one very common interpretation.
1st Mar '16 6:35:59 PM MagBas
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler:A number of tropers actually had to read the book carefully to create these pages.]]
** Real people have carried out murders and bombings in an attempt to imitate the book.
** Since the whole book is from the [[UnreliableNarrator perspective of Earl Turner,]] there is the (very likely) possibility that he could be lying or exaggerating the "villainy" of the System and minorities. Meaning him and his colleagues are killing normal people and justifying it with their ideology.

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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler:A number of tropers actually had to read the book carefully to create these pages.]]
** Real people have carried out murders and bombings in an attempt to imitate the book.
**
FridgeHorror: Since the whole book is from the [[UnreliableNarrator perspective of Earl Turner,]] there is the (very likely) possibility that he could be lying or exaggerating the "villainy" of the System and minorities. Meaning him and his colleagues are killing normal people and justifying it with their ideology.
1st Mar '16 6:33:46 PM MagBas
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* {{Dehumanization}}: The intent of the book is to depict all non-whites and Jews (as well as any white who don't agree with the goal of exterminating all non-whites) as less than human.
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