History YMMV / TheTurnerDiaries

10th Sep '17 11:34:58 PM DevinMeenan
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Non-whites must be destroyed, along with any whites who don't support their extermination.
16th Jul '17 12:47:48 PM MarkLungo
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** The plot kicks off with the US population, ''including the Supreme Court,'' accepting the outlawing of privately-owned guns, second amendment be damned. In fact, lets cut to the chase and say that ''everyone'' who isn't racist is a moron nigh-on by default.

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** The plot kicks off with the US population, ''including the Supreme Court,'' accepting the outlawing of privately-owned guns, second amendment be damned. In fact, lets let's cut to the chase and say that ''everyone'' who isn't racist is a moron nigh-on by default.
16th Jul '17 12:45:52 PM MarkLungo
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: There is practically nobody worth rooting for in this book. Turner and his cohorts are {{Villain Protagonist}}s and everyone else seems to be a racial stereotype.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: There is practically nobody worth rooting for in this book. Turner and his cohorts are {{Villain Protagonist}}s (albeit [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic not intended as such]] by the author) and everyone else seems to be a racial stereotype.
16th Jul '17 12:43:59 PM MarkLungo
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Considering the book's key premise is that "all non whites are inferior untermenschen who [[Series/DoctorWho WILL BE EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATE!!! EXTERMINATE!!!]]", and that all whites who take issue with this are just as subhuman in their "race treason" (and thus slated for extermination the same time as the Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc), this book has hardly been a fondly appreciated literary classic. Most bafflingly, the book also [[PretenderDiss targets almost all white supremacists (i.e., its target audience) as being gutless cowards and drunks]] who will be swept away along with the untermenschen by the new "master race" which entirely consists of omnicidal Nazi psychopaths. TruthInTelevision: Nazis and neo-Nazis alike had little respect for the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan, as ''Film/AmericanHistoryX'' makes clear. Also since Neo-Nazism tends to attract fringe people, a lot of white supremacist ranks aren't filled with the brightest or most fit people. Especially fitting since Hitler himself didn't live up to his ideals of Aryan Purity.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Considering the book's key premise is that "all non whites are inferior untermenschen who [[Series/DoctorWho WILL BE EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATE!!! EXTERMINATE!!!]]", and that all whites who take issue with this are just as subhuman in their "race treason" (and thus slated for extermination the same time as the Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc), this book has hardly been a fondly appreciated literary classic. Most bafflingly, the book also [[PretenderDiss targets almost all white supremacists (i.e., its target audience) as being gutless cowards and drunks]] who will be swept away along with the untermenschen by the new "master race" which entirely consists of omnicidal Nazi psychopaths. TruthInTelevision: Nazis and neo-Nazis alike had little respect for the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan, as ''Film/AmericanHistoryX'' makes clear. Also since Neo-Nazism tends to attract fringe people, a lot of white supremacist ranks aren't filled with the brightest or most fit people. Especially fitting since Hitler UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler himself didn't live up to his ideals of Aryan Purity.
16th Jul '17 12:42:42 PM MarkLungo
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Considering the book's key premise is that "all non whites are inferior untermenschen who [[Series/DoctorWho WILL BE EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATE!!! EXTERMINATE!!!]]", and that all whites who take issue with this are just as subhuman in their "race treason" (and thus slated for extermination the same time as the Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc), this book has hardly been a fondly appreciated literary classic. Most bafflingly, the book also [[PretenderDiss targets almost all white supremacists (i.e., its target audience) as being gutless cowards and drunks]] who will be swept away along with the untermenschen by the new "master race" which entirely consists of omnicidal Nazi psychopaths. TruthInTelevision: Nazis and neo-Nazis alike had little respect for the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan, as ''AmericanHistoryX'' makes clear. Also since Neo-Nazism tends to attract fringe people, a lot of white supremacist ranks aren't filled with the brightest or most fit people. Especially fitting since Hitler himself didn't live up to his ideals of Aryan Purity.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Considering the book's key premise is that "all non whites are inferior untermenschen who [[Series/DoctorWho WILL BE EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATE!!! EXTERMINATE!!!]]", and that all whites who take issue with this are just as subhuman in their "race treason" (and thus slated for extermination the same time as the Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc), this book has hardly been a fondly appreciated literary classic. Most bafflingly, the book also [[PretenderDiss targets almost all white supremacists (i.e., its target audience) as being gutless cowards and drunks]] who will be swept away along with the untermenschen by the new "master race" which entirely consists of omnicidal Nazi psychopaths. TruthInTelevision: Nazis and neo-Nazis alike had little respect for the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan, as ''AmericanHistoryX'' ''Film/AmericanHistoryX'' makes clear. Also since Neo-Nazism tends to attract fringe people, a lot of white supremacist ranks aren't filled with the brightest or most fit people. Especially fitting since Hitler himself didn't live up to his ideals of Aryan Purity.
16th Jul '17 12:40:38 PM MarkLungo
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Considering the book's key premise is that "all non whites are inferior untermenschen who [[Series/DoctorWho WILL BE EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATE!!! EXTERMINATE!!!]]", and that all whites who take issue with this are just as subhuman in their "race treason" (and thus slated for extermination the same time as the Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc), this book has hardly been a fondly appreciated literary classic. Most bafflingly, the book also [[PretenderDiss targets almost all white supremacists (i.e., its target audience) as being gutless cowards and drunks]] who will be swept away along with the untermenschen by the new "master race" which entirely consists of omnicidal Nazi psychopaths. TruthInTelevision: Nazis and neo-Nazis alike had little respect for the Ku Klux Klan, as ''AmericanHistoryX'' makes clear. Also since Neo-Nazism tends to attract fringe people, a lot of white supremacist ranks aren't filled with the brightest or most fit people. Especially fitting since Hitler himself didn't live up to his ideals of Aryan Purity.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Considering the book's key premise is that "all non whites are inferior untermenschen who [[Series/DoctorWho WILL BE EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATE!!! EXTERMINATE!!!]]", and that all whites who take issue with this are just as subhuman in their "race treason" (and thus slated for extermination the same time as the Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc), this book has hardly been a fondly appreciated literary classic. Most bafflingly, the book also [[PretenderDiss targets almost all white supremacists (i.e., its target audience) as being gutless cowards and drunks]] who will be swept away along with the untermenschen by the new "master race" which entirely consists of omnicidal Nazi psychopaths. TruthInTelevision: Nazis and neo-Nazis alike had little respect for the Ku Klux Klan, UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan, as ''AmericanHistoryX'' makes clear. Also since Neo-Nazism tends to attract fringe people, a lot of white supremacist ranks aren't filled with the brightest or most fit people. Especially fitting since Hitler himself didn't live up to his ideals of Aryan Purity.



20th May '17 4:02:45 PM ThePest179
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: THE ENTIRE BOOK. It's so stupid and impossible that it can stop being disturbing for readers and just a source of humor. Whether or not it's disturbing that Neo-Nazis actually believe talking points in the book is another matter.



* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesopFamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Non-whites must be destroyed, along with any whites who don't support their extermination.


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* {{Narm}}: THE ENTIRE BOOK. It's so stupid and impossible that it can stop being disturbing for readers and just a source of humor. Whether or not it's disturbing that Neo-Nazis actually believe talking points in the book is another matter.
24th Mar '17 2:08:07 PM MagBas
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* CanonSue: All the white people.
29th Nov '16 6:49:51 AM crazysamaritan
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Considering the book's key premise is that "all non whites are inferior untermenschen who [[Series/DoctorWho WILL BE EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATE!!! EXTERMINATE!!!]]", and that all whites who take issue with this are just as subhuman in their "race treason" (and thus slated for extermination the same time as the Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc), this book has hardly been a fondly appreciated literary classic. Most bafflingly, the book also [[PretenderDiss targets almost all white supremacists (i.e., its target audience) as being gutless cowards and drunks]] who will be swept away along with the untermenschen by the new "master race" which entirely consists of omnicidal Nazi psychopaths.
** TruthInTelevision: Nazis and neo-Nazis alike had little respect for the Ku Klux Klan, as ''AmericanHistoryX'' makes clear.
*** Also since Neo-Nazism tends to attract fringe people, a lot of white supremacist ranks aren't filled with the brightest or most fit people. Especially fitting since Hitler himself didn't live up to his ideals of Aryan Purity.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Considering the book's key premise is that "all non whites are inferior untermenschen who [[Series/DoctorWho WILL BE EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATE!!! EXTERMINATE!!!]]", and that all whites who take issue with this are just as subhuman in their "race treason" (and thus slated for extermination the same time as the Jews, Blacks, Hispanics, etc), this book has hardly been a fondly appreciated literary classic. Most bafflingly, the book also [[PretenderDiss targets almost all white supremacists (i.e., its target audience) as being gutless cowards and drunks]] who will be swept away along with the untermenschen by the new "master race" which entirely consists of omnicidal Nazi psychopaths.
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psychopaths. TruthInTelevision: Nazis and neo-Nazis alike had little respect for the Ku Klux Klan, as ''AmericanHistoryX'' makes clear.
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clear. Also since Neo-Nazism tends to attract fringe people, a lot of white supremacist ranks aren't filled with the brightest or most fit people. Especially fitting since Hitler himself didn't live up to his ideals of Aryan Purity.



* CrowningMomentOfFunny / {{Narm}}: THE ENTIRE BOOK. It's so stupid and impossible that it can stop being disturbing for readers and just a source of humor. Whether or not it's disturbing that Neo-Nazis actually believe talking points in the book is another matter.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny / {{Narm}}: CrowningMomentOfFunny: THE ENTIRE BOOK. It's so stupid and impossible that it can stop being disturbing for readers and just a source of humor. Whether or not it's disturbing that Neo-Nazis actually believe talking points in the book is another matter.



* DesignatedHero[=/=]DesignatedVillain: Even with literally every single racist stereotype Neo Nazis have about blacks, jews, liberals, gays, feminists, non-Nazi white people, etc, in full effect and taken UpToEleven, the "villains" still seem far less evil and monstrous than the "heroes" due in no small part to the lack of omnicidal extermination campaigns.
* EightDeadlyWords: Why care about any of the characters when the "heroes" are genocidal psychopathic Neo-Nazis and the villains are all racial, political, and sexual stereotypes?

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* DesignatedHero[=/=]DesignatedVillain: DesignatedHero: Even with literally every single racist stereotype Neo Nazis have about blacks, jews, liberals, gays, feminists, non-Nazi white people, etc, in full effect and taken UpToEleven, the "villains" still seem far less evil and monstrous than the "heroes" due in no small part to the lack of omnicidal extermination campaigns.
* EightDeadlyWords: Why care about any of the characters when the "heroes" are genocidal psychopathic Neo-Nazis and the villains are all racial, political, and sexual stereotypes?
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* IdiotPlot: The plot kicks off with the US population, ''including the Supreme Court,'' accepting the outlawing of privately-owned guns, second amendment be damned. In fact, lets cut to the chase and say that ''everyone'' who isn't racist is a moron nigh-on by default.

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* IdiotPlot: IdiotPlot:
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The plot kicks off with the US population, ''including the Supreme Court,'' accepting the outlawing of privately-owned guns, second amendment be damned. In fact, lets cut to the chase and say that ''everyone'' who isn't racist is a moron nigh-on by default.



** See {{Defictionalization}} on the trivia page.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: To be expected in a novel with a white supremacist agenda. At one point, the attorney general of the United States government comes on television to describe the [[DesignatedHero heroes]] as "depraved, racist terrorists."

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: StrawmanHasAPoint:
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To be expected in a novel with a white supremacist agenda. At one point, the attorney general of the United States government comes on television to describe the [[DesignatedHero heroes]] as "depraved, racist terrorists."



* VillainProtagonist: Because of the ValuesDissonance, this is one very common interpretation.

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* VillainProtagonist: Because of the ValuesDissonance, this is one very common interpretation.
29th Oct '16 8:30:54 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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** A libertarian member of the racist organization early in its existence argues (quite correctly) that their wave of terror is doing nothing more than causing the government to clamp down even harder on normal Americans and that they're killing too many innocents which is causing the general public to hate them, which is entirely true. Of course the main character/narrator acts as if the man is insane and executes the man for his objections.

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** A libertarian member of the racist organization early in its existence argues (quite correctly) that their wave of terror is doing nothing more than causing the government to clamp down even harder on normal Americans and that they're killing too many innocents which is causing the general public to hate them, which is entirely true. Of course the main character/narrator acts as if the man is insane and executes the man him for his objections.
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