History YMMV / TheThiefAndTheCobbler

26th Mar '17 10:41:50 AM NWolfman
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* AccidentalAesop: A meta example. Along with ''Film/HeavensGate'', this film is a good cautionary tale of how [[DoingItForTheArt trying to make your passion project literally perfect]], with little concern for the [[RealityEnsues realistic restraints]] of time, money and even human capability, can blow up in one's face.
25th Mar '17 7:47:54 AM erforce
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** Also, the film was finally released under the title "Princess and the Cobbler" in September 1993. A month later, VincentPrice passed away. So Zigzag's final line "For Zigzag then, this is....the end!" is oddly prophetic.

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** Also, the film was finally released under the title "Princess and the Cobbler" in September 1993. A month later, VincentPrice Creator/VincentPrice passed away. So Zigzag's final line "For Zigzag then, this is....the end!" is oddly prophetic.
12th Mar '17 9:04:01 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Mighty One-Eye]], from the original workprint and ''The Recobbled Cut'', is a brutal warlord who introduces himself in the aftermath of a complete massacre of an army he and his army have defeated, [[AtopAMountainOfCorpses forming a mountain of hundreds of corpses]] upon which One Eye announces his intent to bring the Golden City and all within to destruction. Regularly making a habit of abusing his personal harem and using them as living furniture, One Eye spitefully orders the treacherous wizard [[EvilChancellor Zigzag]] thrown to his pet alligators [[UngratefulBastard even after Zigzag provides him with the means to invade the Golden City]]. One Eye is implied to make a regular habit out of mass slaughter and seeks to annihilate the Golden City purely as a show of his [[BloodKnight bloodthirsty might]].
24th Jan '17 1:22:50 PM PrincessGwen
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* OvershadowedByControversy: By this point, the story of the film's exhaustive production, Williams' tenacity to make it perfect, and it's eventual incomplete fate are far more well-known than what actually happens in it.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: By this point, the story of the film's exhaustive production, Williams' tenacity to make it perfect, and it's its eventual incomplete fate are far more well-known than what actually happens in it.



* [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made On Drugs?]]: The original version is probably the second trippiest animated film, after ''WesternAnimation/YellowSubmarine''. Befitting, as Richard Willaims is a big fan of that movie.

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* [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made On Drugs?]]: The original version is probably the second trippiest animated film, after ''WesternAnimation/YellowSubmarine''. Befitting, as Richard Willaims Williams is a big fan of that movie.
8th Nov '16 6:35:34 AM Gouken20xx
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: The thief stealing the film at the end, considering what happened to the film in RealLife.

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** WordOfGod says that even Richard Williams HIMSELF refuses to acknowledge any version other than his workprint and the Recobbled Cut, only submitting the workprint for restoration and archiving.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: The thief stealing the film at the end, considering what happened to the film in RealLife.


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* HarsherInHindsight: It's implied in at least one version that the Thief is keeping the film until the reviews come in. The film has never been nominated any awards, and it's only the workprint that has been archived. [[FridgeBrilliance Maybe one day he might actually give it back...]]
3rd Nov '16 4:01:44 PM TheJayman49
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* NauseaFuel: Due to the camera angels and the fluid animation on the 3D objects, it can be pretty easy to watch the war machine falling apart while getting a bit of motion sickness.
22nd Oct '16 1:21:23 PM MilanP.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: There's a TON in the "Arabian Knight" (Miramax) cut, but one that stands out is the Thief encountering his mom in the plumbing pipes. It makes about as much sense as it sounds.
6th Oct '16 11:06:03 AM NWolfman
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* SoOkayItsAverage: Not the animation, which is [[SugarWiki/AwesomeArt god-tier]], but the story, which is little more than your average Disney-like fairy tale.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: Not While no one has yet to balk at the animation, which is [[SugarWiki/AwesomeArt god-tier]], but god-tier]] animation, the story, which is little actual story isn't seen as much more than your an average Disney-like fairy tale. tale.
6th Oct '16 11:04:32 AM NWolfman
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Fans of the film will still defend it as "unfinished" because of how awful the contractually-obligated Mirimax cut, made without Richard Williams, turned out.
** Even people who don't like the Richard Williams version will disown the Mirimax version. It is ''that'' unpopular.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Fans To both fans and non-fans of the film will still defend it as "unfinished" because of how awful the contractually-obligated Mirimax cut, made without Richard Williams, turned out.
** Even people who don't like the Richard Williams version will disown
the Mirimax version. It is ''that'' unpopular.version does not exist.
6th Oct '16 11:03:39 AM NWolfman
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** As one observer remarked, the sequence inside the battle machine "looks as if someone ''died'' animating it!"


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* EndingFatigue: The war machine falling apart. As one observer remarked, it "looks as if someone ''died'' from animating it," not only because of the exhaustive, incomparably amazing 3D hand-drawn animation, but for the fact that it goes on for nearly ten minutes ''after'' the villain has been defeated.


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* {{Padding}}: A handful of scenes, such as the polo game, the war-torn soldier returning to King Nod and ''especially'' the war machine, go on several minutes longer than they probably should for no greater reason that Richard Williams wanted the already awesome-looking animation to be ''even more awesome''. There hasn't been much complaint.
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