History YMMV / TheTenthKingdom

15th Jun '16 5:55:24 PM Ingonyama
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** Another (worse) example: The series seems to be trying to make a commentary about prejudice with Wolf's character, and have him of all people warn Virginia and Tony [[AcceptableEthnicTargets not to trust the Gypsies and any food they give you]], before proceeding to the stereotypical Gypsy curse, and then killing all the Gypsy characters off. It's a level of racist stereotyping that will have people who normally laugh that sort of thing off cringing in front of the TV. An attempt is made to mitigate this by having the Gypsies' curse only motivated by Virginia having freed their magic birds (itself an act of questionable morality, since they are {{Talking Animal}}s, but they're clearly selling them for the money to live); their earlier suspicions of the group simply being well-justified because they are strangers in a dangerous forest (and they do, after all, ending up drawing the Huntsman there, although it's very likely the Gypsies were already aware of him as an enemy); and their subsequent deaths at the arrows of the Huntsman meant to arouse sympathy. But the success of these mitigating factors obviously varies.

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** Another (worse) example: The series seems to be trying to make a commentary about prejudice with Wolf's character, and have him of all people warn Virginia and Tony [[AcceptableEthnicTargets not to trust the Gypsies and any food they give you]], before proceeding to the stereotypical Gypsy curse, and then killing all the Gypsy characters off. It's a level of racist stereotyping that will have people who normally laugh that sort of thing off cringing in front of the TV. An attempt is made to mitigate this by having the Gypsies' curse only motivated by Virginia having freed their magic birds (itself an act of questionable morality, since they are {{Talking Animal}}s, but they're clearly selling them for the money to live); their earlier suspicions of the group simply being well-justified because they are strangers in a dangerous forest (and they do, after all, ending end up drawing the Huntsman there, although it's very likely the Gypsies were already aware of him as an enemy); and their subsequent deaths at the arrows of the Huntsman meant to arouse sympathy. But the success of these mitigating factors obviously varies.
4th Jun '16 12:58:08 PM Ingonyama
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** To an extent, Sally Peep. Yes, she was a total SpoiledBrat, but when you come from a family that wins ''everything'', how did you expect her to turn out? Being murdered ''by her own grandfather'' was pretty shocking.

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** To an extent, Sally Peep. Yes, she was a total SpoiledBrat, but when you come from a family that wins ''everything'', how did you expect her to turn out? Being murdered ''by her own grandfather'' was pretty shocking. The cry she gives when murdered is certainly horrifying, and [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness the look on her face]] when she's first told about the well and Wilfred threatens to kill her if she tells anyone about it shows how upsetting the situation truly is. Also add in the fact that part of her enmity isn't based just on losing the shepherdess contest but also jealousy over not getting Wolf for herself--and Virginia outright lampshades this by using SlutShaming as part of Wolf's defense at the trial. As audacious as her actions were, they didn't merit the fate she got (and at the point she was flirting with Wolf, Virginia hadn't even accepted her feelings for him or officially begun dating him, from her POV, so really he was fair game as far as Sally was concerned).
4th Jun '16 12:48:47 PM Ingonyama
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** Another (worse) example: The series seems to be trying to make a commentary about prejudice with Wolf's character, and have him of all people warn Virginia and Tony [[AcceptableEthnicTargets not to trust the Gypsies and any food they give you]], before proceeding to the stereotypical Gypsy curse, and then killing all the Gypsy characters off. It's a level of racist stereotyping that will have people who normally laugh that sort of thing off cringing in front of the TV.

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** Another (worse) example: The series seems to be trying to make a commentary about prejudice with Wolf's character, and have him of all people warn Virginia and Tony [[AcceptableEthnicTargets not to trust the Gypsies and any food they give you]], before proceeding to the stereotypical Gypsy curse, and then killing all the Gypsy characters off. It's a level of racist stereotyping that will have people who normally laugh that sort of thing off cringing in front of the TV. An attempt is made to mitigate this by having the Gypsies' curse only motivated by Virginia having freed their magic birds (itself an act of questionable morality, since they are {{Talking Animal}}s, but they're clearly selling them for the money to live); their earlier suspicions of the group simply being well-justified because they are strangers in a dangerous forest (and they do, after all, ending up drawing the Huntsman there, although it's very likely the Gypsies were already aware of him as an enemy); and their subsequent deaths at the arrows of the Huntsman meant to arouse sympathy. But the success of these mitigating factors obviously varies.
24th May '16 4:23:47 AM Ingonyama
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* AcceptableEthnicTargets: The Romani ("Gypsies.") To a somewhat shocking extent, for a series made in the twenty-first century. Suffice to say, it soars clean over "UnfortunateImplications" territory and straight into "downright racist."
24th May '16 4:12:35 AM Ingonyama
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* BrokenAesop: Though it's a touching scene, when Snow White recounts her story and her death at the hands of the Wicked Stepmother, she says to Virginia "Why did I let her in? Didn't I know she was bad? Of course I did. But you can't keep the door closed your whole life." Which would be a good Aesop about not letting fear control tyour life...except, you know, opening the door to a stranger that she ''knew'' had malicious intentions ended up with her being poisoned and [[CruelAndUnusualDeath she died choking in the woman's arms]]. There's a difference between "not being afraid" and just grabbing an IdiotBall.

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* BrokenAesop: Though it's a touching scene, when Snow White recounts her story and her death at the hands of the Wicked Stepmother, she says to Virginia "Why did I let her in? Didn't I know she was bad? Of course I did. But you can't keep the door closed your whole life." Which would be a good Aesop about not letting fear control tyour your life...except, you know, opening the door to a stranger that she ''knew'' had malicious intentions ended up with her being poisoned and [[CruelAndUnusualDeath she died choking in the woman's arms]]. There's a difference between "not being afraid" and just grabbing an IdiotBall.
22nd May '16 11:38:47 PM SallyShears
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** Another (worse) example: The series seems to be trying to make a commentary about prejudice with Wolf's character, and have him of all people warn Virginia and Tony [[AcceptableEthnicTargets not to trust the Gypsies and any food they give you]], before proceeding to the stereotypical Gypsy curse, and then killing all the Gypsy characters off. It's a level of racist stereotyping that will have people who normally laugh that sort of thing off cringing in front of the TV.
9th Apr '16 8:57:46 AM kataangluvr
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9th Apr '16 8:57:18 AM kataangluvr
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** The dog stuck in Prince Wendell's body. He makes it clear that he doesn't like being a human and just wants to return to normal. Multiple times in the series, he tries reaching out to someone and be a dog again. At one point, he encountered the real Wendell, but they were too far away to touch and return to their original bodies. Another time, he told someone what was really going on, but the Queen killed the man to keep her dirty secret. The poor thing even considered ''suicide'' because he didn't want to be a part of her plot anymore.
19th Feb '16 2:12:35 PM TheLuckyCat
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* BrokenAesop: Though it's a touching scene, when Snow White recounts her story and her death at the hands of the Wicked Stepmother, she says to Virginia "Why did I let her in? Didn't I know she was bad? Of course I did. But you can't keep the door closed your whole life." Which would be a good Aesop about not letting fear control tyour life...except, you know, opening the door to a stranger that she ''knew'' had malicious intentions ended up with her being poisoned and [[CruelAndUnusualDeath she died choking in the woman's arms]]. There's a difference between "not being afraid" and just grabbing an IdiotBall.
26th Aug '15 7:11:54 PM NOYB
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The Huntsman. A cold, ruthless sociopath who enjoys [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting people?]] Or a once good man, driven [[MaddenIntoMisanthropy insane with guilt]] for unintentionally causing the death of his son, which turned him into TheFatalist as a means of coping? Or both?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The Huntsman. A cold, ruthless sociopath who enjoys [[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunting people?]] Or a once good once-good man, driven [[MaddenIntoMisanthropy insane with guilt]] for unintentionally causing the death of his son, which turned him into TheFatalist as a means of coping? Or both?
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