History YMMV / TheTenthKingdom

6th Aug '17 5:50:55 AM LordXavius
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* HilariousInHindsight: Wendell's full name is Wendell Winston [[Series/BreakingBad Walter White]].
15th May '17 6:23:41 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Of the protagonists, Wolf.
** Tony for some. He has many hilarious lines and undergoes some pretty good CharacterDevelopment by the end of the story.



* JerkassWoobie: [[spoiler: The Evil Queen, aka: Virginia's mother]]. Yes, she [[spoiler: tried to ''drown'' her seven-year-old daughter]], but Tony implies that she was mentally ill and she was so ''horrified'' by what happened that [[spoiler: she became The Evil Queen to escape from what she did, which made her easy prey for the ''original'' Wicked Stepmother.]]

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* JerkassWoobie: JerkassWoobie:
** Prince. Sure, he starts out a RoyalBrat, but being turned into a dog and having your entire life stolen from you is pretty terrible. Not to mention getting turned into gold at one point...
** Tony starts out as a useless jerk, but once you learn his and Virginia's past, you'll be more understanding. He went from running his own business, which was his dream job, to being a put-a-upon janitor, while at the same time having to deal with his wife's worsening mental condition. All this culminated in [[spoiler: Christine losing it and trying to drown Virginia as a child then running away and, as far as he knew, simply disappearing.]] Is it any wonder he begins the miniseries as a drunken jerkass?
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[[spoiler: The Evil Queen, aka: Virginia's mother]]. Yes, she [[spoiler: tried to ''drown'' her seven-year-old daughter]], but Tony implies that she was mentally ill and she was so ''horrified'' by what happened that [[spoiler: she became The Evil Queen to escape from what she did, which made her easy prey for the ''original'' Wicked Stepmother.]]



* TheScrappy: Tony is this, big time.
** [[EnsembleDarkhorse Or is he?]]
** Because of his many WhatAnIdiot and {{Jerkass}} qualities, Wolf can end up as this for some viewers.



** The dog stuck in Prince Wendell's body. He makes it clear that he doesn't like being a human and just wants to return to normal. Multiple times in the series, he tries reaching out to someone and be a dog again. At one point, he encountered the real Wendell, but they were too far away to touch and return to their original bodies. Another time, he told someone what was really going on, but the Queen killed the man to keep her dirty secret. The poor thing even considered ''suicide'' because he didn't want to be a part of her plot anymore.
** JerkassWoobie: Prince. Sure, he starts out a RoyalBrat, but being turned into a dog and having your entire life stolen from you is pretty terrible. Not to mention getting turned into gold at one point...
** Tony starts out as a useless jerk, but once you learn his and Virginia's past, you'll be more understanding. He went from running his own business, which was his dream job, to being a put-a-upon janitor, while at the same time having to deal with his wife's worsening mental condition. All this culminated in [[spoiler: Christine losing it and trying to drown Virginia as a child then running away and, as far as he knew, simply disappearing.]] Is it any wonder he begins the miniseries as a drunken jerkass?

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** The dog stuck in Prince Wendell's body. He makes it clear that he doesn't like being a human and just wants to return to normal. Multiple times in the series, he tries reaching out to someone and be a dog again. At one point, he encountered the real Wendell, but they were too far away to touch and return to their original bodies. Another time, he told someone what was really going on, but the Queen killed the man to keep her dirty secret. The poor thing even considered ''suicide'' because he didn't want to be a part of her plot anymore.
** JerkassWoobie: Prince. Sure, he starts out a RoyalBrat, but being turned into a dog and having your entire life stolen from you is pretty terrible. Not to mention getting turned into gold at one point...
** Tony starts out as a useless jerk, but once you learn his and Virginia's past, you'll be more understanding. He went from running his own business, which was his dream job, to being a put-a-upon janitor, while at the same time having to deal with his wife's worsening mental condition. All this culminated in [[spoiler: Christine losing it and trying to drown Virginia as a child then running away and, as far as he knew, simply disappearing.]] Is it any wonder he begins the miniseries as a drunken jerkass?
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15th May '17 6:20:34 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* BrokenAesop: Though it's a touching scene, when Snow White recounts her story and her death at the hands of the Wicked Stepmother, she says to Virginia "Why did I let her in? Didn't I know she was bad? Of course I did. But you can't keep the door closed your whole life." Which would be a good Aesop about not letting fear control your life...except, you know, opening the door to a stranger that she ''knew'' had malicious intentions ended up with her being poisoned and [[CruelAndUnusualDeath she died choking in the woman's arms]]. There's a difference between "not being afraid" and just grabbing an IdiotBall.
9th Feb '17 5:23:11 AM Ingonyama
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** Okay, Wolf, you've won a ton of money gambling. Which do you think will win Virginia over more: a expensive, yet pointless meal and marriage proposal or the goddamn mirror she's been hunting for since she arrived in the Nine Kingdoms? To be fair, he was afraid if she got the mirror she'd just go right back home without a second thought for him (and considering she was on the verge of doing so in Little Lamb Village not too long before this, when he was in prison and about to be executed, he may have had a point). And he did think in his voiceover narration that he would use his winnings to buy the mirror, use the rest for his proposal, and thus give her a choice: him or home; this was only undone by him forgetting the engagement ring, being guilted into buying the most expensive one by the jeweler, and spending far too much on the restaurant. So perhaps it's less idiocy than impulsiveness and not thinking things through. But he ''really'' should have known what her reaction to him not buying the mirror would be.

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** Okay, Wolf, you've won a ton of money gambling. Which do you think will win Virginia over more: a an expensive, yet pointless meal and marriage proposal or the goddamn mirror she's been hunting for since she arrived in the Nine Kingdoms? To be fair, he was afraid if she got the mirror she'd just go right back home without a second thought for him (and considering she was on the verge of doing so in Little Lamb Village not too long before this, when he was in prison and about to be executed, he may have had a point). And he did think in his voiceover narration that he would use his winnings to buy the mirror, use the rest for his proposal, and thus give her a choice: him or home; this was only undone by him forgetting the engagement ring, being guilted into buying the most expensive one by the jeweler, and spending far too much on the restaurant. So perhaps it's less idiocy than impulsiveness and not thinking things through. But he ''really'' should have known what her reaction to him not buying the mirror would be.
8th Jan '17 11:52:27 AM SeptimusHeap
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* FreudWasRight: Wolf's tail. The scene in the beanstalk forest, where he practically dares Virginia to touch it, she asks why he keeps it hidden, and especially [[FantasticArousal the positively orgasmic look on his face]] when she brushes against the fur rather than with it, is extremely Freudian in nature. In a bizarre twist, however, the size of his tail apparently changes due to the time of the month, suggesting a connection to the female menstrual cycle. (Werewolves, after all, are tied to the typically feminine moon...) The fact it is hanging out of his pants following his 'hide-and-seek' in the forest with Virginia near Wendell's castle, and that this lets Tony disapprovingly know what they were up to, doesn't help.
21st Oct '16 9:36:57 PM Ingonyama
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: In TheNewTens, fairy tale retellings really came into popularity. These ranged from DarkerAndEdgier fare like ''Film/SnowWhiteAndTheHuntsman'', ''Film/HanselAndGretelWitchHunters'' and the TV series ''{{Series/Grimm}}'' - and HighFantasy like ''Series/OnceUponATime''. That's not to mention parodies like ''{{WesternAnimation/Shrek}}'' and ''{{Film/Enchanted}}''. That's not to mention Disney pulling out {{Reconstruction}}s like ''{{Disney/Tangled}}'' and ''{{Disney/Frozen}}''. But when ''The Tenth Kingdom'' was made, fairy tales in popular culture were still being played straight - and it was the tail end of the Disney Renaissance - so it might be hard for newer viewers to understand what the big deal was at first. Many of the tropes - heroine becomes an ActionGirl, villain is a TragicMonster, lots of LampshadeHanging - have now become standard fare for fairy tale retellings.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: In TheNewTens, fairy tale retellings really came into popularity. These ranged from DarkerAndEdgier fare like ''Film/SnowWhiteAndTheHuntsman'', ''Film/HanselAndGretelWitchHunters'' and the TV series ''{{Series/Grimm}}'' - and to HighFantasy like ''Series/OnceUponATime''. That's not to mention parodies like ''{{WesternAnimation/Shrek}}'' and ''{{Film/Enchanted}}''. That's not to mention ''{{Film/Enchanted}}'', as well as Disney pulling out {{Reconstruction}}s like ''{{Disney/Tangled}}'' and ''{{Disney/Frozen}}''. But when ''The Tenth Kingdom'' was made, fairy tales in popular culture were still being played straight - and it was the tail end of the Disney Renaissance - so it might be hard for newer viewers to understand what the big deal was at first. Many of the tropes - heroine becomes an ActionGirl, villain is a TragicMonster, lots of LampshadeHanging - have now become standard fare for fairy tale retellings.



** Ok, Wolf, you've won a ton of money gambling. Which do you think will win Virginia over more: a expensive, yet pointless meal and marriage proposal or the goddamn mirror she's been hunting for since she arrived in the Nine Kingdoms?

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** Ok, Okay, Wolf, you've won a ton of money gambling. Which do you think will win Virginia over more: a expensive, yet pointless meal and marriage proposal or the goddamn mirror she's been hunting for since she arrived in the Nine Kingdoms?Kingdoms? To be fair, he was afraid if she got the mirror she'd just go right back home without a second thought for him (and considering she was on the verge of doing so in Little Lamb Village not too long before this, when he was in prison and about to be executed, he may have had a point). And he did think in his voiceover narration that he would use his winnings to buy the mirror, use the rest for his proposal, and thus give her a choice: him or home; this was only undone by him forgetting the engagement ring, being guilted into buying the most expensive one by the jeweler, and spending far too much on the restaurant. So perhaps it's less idiocy than impulsiveness and not thinking things through. But he ''really'' should have known what her reaction to him not buying the mirror would be.
7th Oct '16 2:51:43 AM WoundedWolfgirl
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* {{Padding}}: Almost all of part 4 could have been removed with no real loss to the overall story.

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* {{Padding}}: Almost all of part 4 3 could have been removed with no real loss to the overall story.


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**[[EnsembleDarkhorse Or is he?]]
6th Sep '16 11:04:58 AM fearlessnikki
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: In TheNewTens, fairy tale retellings really came into popularity. These ranged from DarkerAndEdgier fare like ''Film/SnowWhiteAndTheHuntsman'', ''Film/HanselAndGretelWitchHunters'' and the TV series ''{{Series/Grimm}}'' - and HighFantasy like ''Series/OnceUponATime''. That's not to mention parodies like ''{{WesternAnimation/Shrek}}'' and ''{{Film/Enchanted}}''. That's not to mention Disney pulling out {{Reconstruction}}s like ''{{Disney/Tangled}}'' and ''{{Disney/Frozen}}''. But when ''The Tenth Kingdom'' was made, fairy tales in popular culture were still being played straight - and it was the tail end of the Disney Renaissance - so it might be hard for newer viewers to understand what the big deal was at first. Many of the tropes - heroine becomes an ActionGirl, villain is a TragicMonster, lots of LampshadeHanging - have now become standard fare for fairy tale retellings.
26th Aug '16 5:50:34 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* AcceptableEthnicTargets: The Romani ("Gypsies.") To a somewhat shocking extent, for a series made in the twenty-first century. Suffice to say, it soars clean over "UnfortunateImplications" territory and straight into "downright racist."

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* AcceptableEthnicTargets: The Romani ("Gypsies.") To a somewhat shocking extent, for a series made in the twenty-first century. Suffice to say, it soars clean over "UnfortunateImplications" territory and straight into "downright racist."" They also seem to be a mishmash of "gypsies" cliches, mostly Romani stereotypes but there's some Irish Traveler in there too.
7th Aug '16 6:48:42 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Tony and Wolf. Both are either TheScrappy or an EnsembleDarkhorse depending on who you ask.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Tony and Wolf. Both are either TheScrappy or an EnsembleDarkhorse depending on who you ask.
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