History YMMV / TheSpectacularSpiderMan

29th Aug '17 5:29:56 AM Manny20444
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** And now a similar rivalry is starting to form with ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'', with many Spectacular Fans bashing the show after its first ''short'' and complaining that their favourite adaptation still isn't coming back.

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** And now a similar rivalry is starting to form with ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'', with many Spectacular ''Spectacular'' Fans bashing the show after its first ''short'' and complaining that their favourite adaptation still isn't coming back.
29th Aug '17 5:25:02 AM Manny20444
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** Does Walter Hardy know Spider-Man is Peter Parker, nephew of the man he shot? Is that why he knew Spidey made it clear he wouldn't forgive him?

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** Does Walter Hardy know Spider-Man is Peter Parker, nephew of [[spoiler: the man he shot? shot]]? Is that why he knew Spidey made it clear he wouldn't forgive him?



** For many fans, this series is to Spider-Man what ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' or rather ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'' (it also ran for two seasons with plots left hanging without a renewal[[note]]It eventually got resolved via the popular ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' but before that the executives insisted ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' come first and even then we never see Clark reveal his identity to Lois in the show, even though she and Superman start a relationship[[/note]]) is to their franchise. An AdaptationDistillation that honors multiple iterations of the character, and with good writing skilfully balances the humor, seriousness, romance, and genre elements with excellent voiceover work that has MultipleDemographicAppeal.
** Comparisons between ''Spider-Man'' and ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are dime-a-dozen, but this show really makes it obvious. Originally, Peter's part of a PowerTrio, being an awkward HollywoodNerd orphan, with his best friends being a bookish but sincere girl (Gwen/Hermione) and his best friend being a freckled red-head who is perennially envious of his friends and peers about being OvershadowedByAwesome (Harry Osborn [=/=] Ron Weasley). Peter's also has a rivalry with a haughty blonde jock (Flash [=/=] Draco Malfoy) and later catches the attention of a vivacious redhead who is FunPersonified (MJ[=/=]Ginny), and the series' main villain is a man who disguises his identity and actions through subordinates and likewise fakes his death (Green Goblin[=/=]Voldemort).

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** For many fans, this series is to Spider-Man what ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' or rather ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'' (it also ran for two seasons with plots left hanging without a renewal[[note]]It eventually got resolved via the very popular ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' but before that the executives insisted ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' come first and even then we never see Clark reveal his identity to Lois in the show, even though she and Superman start a relationship[[/note]]) is to their franchise. An AdaptationDistillation that honors multiple iterations of the character, and with good writing skilfully balances the humor, seriousness, romance, and genre elements with excellent voiceover work that has MultipleDemographicAppeal.
** Comparisons between ''Spider-Man'' and ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are dime-a-dozen, but this show really makes it obvious. Originally, Peter's part of a PowerTrio, being an a socially awkward HollywoodNerd orphan, with his best friends being a bookish but sincere girl (Gwen/Hermione) (Gwen Stacy/Hermione) and his best friend being a freckled red-head who is perennially envious of his friends and peers about being OvershadowedByAwesome (Harry Osborn [=/=] Ron Weasley). Peter's also has a rivalry with a haughty blonde jock (Flash [=/=] Draco Malfoy) and later catches the attention of a vivacious redhead who is FunPersonified (MJ[=/=]Ginny), and the series' main villain is a man who disguises his identity and actions through subordinates and likewise fakes his death (Green Goblin[=/=]Voldemort).
29th Aug '17 5:21:17 AM Theokal3
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** And now a similar rivalry is starting to form with ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'', with many Spectacular Fans bashing the show after its first ''short'' and complaining that their favourite adaptation still isn't coming back.
27th Aug '17 6:05:30 AM Manny20444
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** True to the comics, the sheer amount of crap poor Spidey gets put through over the course of this show, particularly from the first and second seasons, is unbelievable.

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** True to the comics, the sheer amount of crap poor Spidey gets Peter Parker and Spider-Man get put through over the course of this show, particularly from the first and second seasons, is unbelievable.
27th Aug '17 6:04:39 AM Manny20444
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** Just like in the comics, Harry is this. He may have ditched his friends when he was InWithTheInCrowd and [[spoiler: manipulated Gwen into staying with him]], but given how his home life is and how he's treated in general, you do feel sorry for him while]].
** Flash Thompson was a bully and a JerkJock but seeing him getting injured in a football match where he took one for the team and possibly wrecked his future prospects for college football or a football scholarship, and [[spoiler:likewise, his bitterness about learning that his sacrifice was AllForNothing when Harry told him he played some of his victories juiced, compelling Thompson out of his own sense of fair-play and ethics, to become whistleblower, makes one genuinely feel for the guy, even if one doesn't condone his bullying of Peter]].
** Eddie Brock always had an air of being an EntitledBastard lording his superior position at Dr. Connors' lab and rubbing in how Peter and Gwen are unpaid interns, and he shows his nasty vindictive streak to MJ, but it's true that he's a guy who is trying to make ends meet doing a job he likes, which became collateral damage as a result of Peter and Spider-Man's shenanigans, and more or less has his life ruined over the course of seasons.
** J. Jonah Jameson is a cantankerous, {{JerkAss}} publisher who makes smear campaigns that are defaming Spider-Man for the sake of eye-catching headlines, but at the end of the day, he sees his beloved son become infected with Alien DNA after an outer-space mission that should ideally have been the proudest moment of their lives, and then sees his son enrolled in a mental health clinic alongside other freaks like Electro and Dr. Octopus.

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** Just like in the comics, Harry is this. He may have ditched his friends when he was InWithTheInCrowd and [[spoiler: manipulated Gwen into staying with him]], but given how his home life is and how he's treated in general, you do feel sorry for him while]].
** Flash Thompson was a bully and a JerkJock but seeing him getting injured in a football match where he took one for the team and possibly wrecked his future prospects for college football or a football scholarship, and [[spoiler:likewise, his bitterness about learning that his sacrifice was AllForNothing when Harry told him he played some of his victories juiced, compelling Thompson out of his own sense of fair-play and ethics, to become whistleblower, makes one genuinely feel for the guy, even if one doesn't condone his bullying of Peter]].
** Eddie Brock always had an air of being an EntitledBastard lording his superior position at Dr. Connors' lab and rubbing in how Peter and Gwen are unpaid interns, and he shows his nasty vindictive streak to MJ, but it's true that he's a guy who is trying to make ends meet doing a job he likes, which became collateral damage as a result of Peter and Spider-Man's shenanigans, and more or less has his life ruined over the course of seasons.
** J. Jonah Jameson is a cantankerous, {{JerkAss}} publisher who makes smear campaigns that are defaming Spider-Man for the sake of eye-catching headlines, but at the end of the day, he sees his beloved son become infected with Alien DNA after an outer-space mission that should ideally have been the proudest moment of their lives, and then sees his son enrolled in a mental health clinic alongside other freaks like Electro and Dr. Octopus.
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14th Aug '17 10:48:01 AM Manny20444
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** J. Jonah Jameson is a cantankerous loudmouth who is perhaps VicariouslyAmbitious but at the end of the day, he sees his beloved son become infected with Alien DNA after an outer-space mission that should ideally have been the proudest moment of their lives, and then sees his son enrolled in a mental health clinic alongside other freaks like Electro and Dr. Octopus.

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** J. Jonah Jameson is a cantankerous loudmouth cantankerous, {{JerkAss}} publisher who is perhaps VicariouslyAmbitious makes smear campaigns that are defaming Spider-Man for the sake of eye-catching headlines, but at the end of the day, he sees his beloved son become infected with Alien DNA after an outer-space mission that should ideally have been the proudest moment of their lives, and then sees his son enrolled in a mental health clinic alongside other freaks like Electro and Dr. Octopus.
13th Aug '17 1:18:03 PM JulianLapostat
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* EvilIsCool: Some of the villains qualify:
** Green Goblin either in costume or as Norman is a frighteningly competent, dangerous adversary who is LaughablyEvil while Norman is the unflappable TheManBehindTheMan, having the best qualities of both Lex Luthor and The Joker, simultaneously, in a way that even his comics counterpart hasn't quite pulled off.
** Hammerhead is quite interesting as a middle-man for Tombstone and ([[spoiler:later Goblin]]) who shows some EvilVirtues (namely loyalty, perseverance) and the animation where he goes into his famous headbutting move is genuinely cool and compelling. Add in that he dresses like a classic '30s gangster (complete with vintage car), and you have a memorable minor villain. The fact that he and Silver Sable are exes makes him pretty interesting.
** The Sandman gets this especially in his last episode where he really shows off his powers by attacking an oil tanker in the ocean and does by converting himself into a moving sandbank (lampshaded by the ship captain noting that the beach is coming to them), and the battle with Spider-Man features an entire forest of fists jutting out of the ground, showing the true potential of his powers in a way that ''Film/SpiderMan3'' didn't do. [[spoiler:The fact that he reveals heroic qualities by saving some of the sailors in that attack only makes it cooler]].
** The Alien Symbiote, especially when it becomes self-aware [[spoiler:and fights the entire Sinister Six by itself and wins, and then provides Peter a BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind that is genuinely compelling and suspenseful]].



* JerkassWoobie:
** Just like in the comics, Harry is this. He may have ditched his friends when he was InWithTheInCrowd and [[spoiler: manipulated Gwen into staying with him]], but given how his home life is and how he's treated in general, you do feel sorry for him while]].
** Flash Thompson was a bully and a JerkJock but seeing him getting injured in a football match where he took one for the team and possibly wrecked his future prospects for college football or a football scholarship, and [[spoiler:likewise, his bitterness about learning that his sacrifice was AllForNothing when Harry told him he played some of his victories juiced, compelling Thompson out of his own sense of fair-play and ethics, to become whistleblower, makes one genuinely feel for the guy, even if one doesn't condone his bullying of Peter]].
** Eddie Brock always had an air of being an EntitledBastard lording his superior position at Dr. Connors' lab and rubbing in how Peter and Gwen are unpaid interns, and he shows his nasty vindictive streak to MJ, but it's true that he's a guy who is trying to make ends meet doing a job he likes, which became collateral damage as a result of Peter and Spider-Man's shenanigans, and more or less has his life ruined over the course of seasons.
** J. Jonah Jameson is a cantankerous loudmouth who is perhaps VicariouslyAmbitious but at the end of the day, he sees his beloved son become infected with Alien DNA after an outer-space mission that should ideally have been the proudest moment of their lives, and then sees his son enrolled in a mental health clinic alongside other freaks like Electro and Dr. Octopus.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: For some, Mary Jane Watson. She was built up a good deal before her introduction in episode 6, and then showed the makings of a great supporting character and potential LoveInterest for the rest of Season 1. But in Season 2, MJ is regulated to being Gwen's CoolBigSis figure who's a ShipperOnDeck for Gwen and Peter, and is only a focal point of a subplot centered on Marc Allan. The series was cancelled before her role could ever expand, so she comes off as an underwhelming waste of potential for a character who's been established across other media as the love of Peter Parker's life. Greg Weisman and his writing staff might have wanted to replicate the slower build towards the Peter/MJ romance from the original comics, but many feel that sort of slow build didn't pan out well in this medium. Others, who are fans of ComicBook/MaryJaneWatson appreciate the series however for portraying her just like how she was originally portrayed in the comics (along with getting her personality right, and for her being a genuinely good person, and for averting the DamselInDistress that the Raimi movies affixed on her).

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For some, Mary Jane Watson. She was built up a good deal before her introduction in episode 6, and then showed the makings of a great supporting character and potential LoveInterest for the rest of Season 1. But in Season 2, MJ is regulated to being Gwen's CoolBigSis figure who's a ShipperOnDeck for Gwen and Peter, and is only a focal point of a subplot centered on Marc Allan. The series was cancelled before her role could ever expand, so she comes off as an underwhelming waste of potential for a character who's been established across other media as the love of Peter Parker's life. Greg Weisman and his writing staff might have wanted to replicate the slower build towards the Peter/MJ romance from the original comics, but many feel that sort of slow build didn't pan out well in this medium. Others, who are fans of ComicBook/MaryJaneWatson appreciate the series however for portraying her just like how she was originally portrayed in the comics (along with getting her personality right, and for her being a genuinely good person, and for averting the DamselInDistress that the Raimi movies affixed on her).her).
** Many felt that the Alien Symbiote was a more interesting villain than ComicBook/{{Venom}} and Eddie Brock. Many lamented the fact that given how the show is trying to be TruerToTheText, that the showrunners didn't go with the original ideas for Venom (where the Symbiote was the main bad guy who would periodically latch on to other hosts, drain it and move on vampirically and Eddie Brock was never intended as the final or only host) and instead went with Eddie Brock as a host, for legacy reasons.



** Peter Parker, during his relationship with Liz Allan. He doesn't even attempt to hide that he has feelings for Gwen (or doesn't even realize he shouldn't be making it that obvious) even when '''right in front of Liz'''.
*** Not to mention he and Gwen deciding to break up with Liz and Harry at the end of Season 2. This is coming right after Peter spent all season not showing up to his and Liz's dates (admittedly for crime-fighting), showed favoritism to Gwen over her on Valentine's Day, and Mark Allan's arrest for supervillain activities. Not to mention the fact that Harry was kidnapped by the Green Goblin and a struggling addict who had his secret outed by Flash a number of days prior.

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** Peter Parker, during his relationship with Liz Allan. He doesn't even attempt to hide that he has feelings for Gwen (or doesn't even realize he shouldn't be making it that obvious) even when '''right in front of Liz'''.
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Liz'''. Not to mention he and Gwen deciding to break up with Liz and Harry at the end of Season 2. This is coming right after Peter spent all season not showing up to his and Liz's dates (admittedly for crime-fighting), showed favoritism to Gwen over her on Valentine's Day, and Mark Allan's arrest for supervillain activities. Not to mention the fact that Harry was kidnapped by the Green Goblin and a struggling addict who had his secret outed by Flash a number of days prior.



* TheWoobie: True to the comics, the sheer amount of crap poor Spidey gets put through over the course of this show, particularly from the first and second seasons, is unbelievable.

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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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True to the comics, the sheer amount of crap poor Spidey gets put through over the course of this show, particularly from the first and second seasons, is unbelievable.unbelievable.
** Liz Allan has an elder brother who did time in juvie and has a gambling addiction, and deals with this problem on her own with only MJ for support, since Peter, as he himself admits has been a terrible boyfriend to her, being both neglectful and emotionally unfaithful to her since he blatantly favors Gwen in public over her.



** JerkassWoobie: Just like in the comics, Harry is this. He may have ditched his friends when he was InWithTheInCrowd and [[spoiler: manipulated Gwen into staying with him]], but given how his home life is and how he's treated in general, you can't blame him.
13th Aug '17 12:51:07 PM JulianLapostat
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** Comparisons between ''Spider-Man'' and ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are dime-a-dozen, but this show really makes it obvious. Originally, Peter's part of a PowerTrio, being an awkward HollywoodNerd orphan, with his best friends being a bookish but sincere girl (Gwen/Hermione) and his best friend being a freckled red-head who is perennially envious of his friends and peers about being OvershadowedByAwesome (Harry Osborn [=/=] Ron Weasley). Peter's also has a rivalry with a haughty blonde jock (Flash [=/=] Draco Malfoy) and later catches the attention of a vivacious redhead who is FunPersonified (MJ[=/=]Ginny).

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** Comparisons between ''Spider-Man'' and ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are dime-a-dozen, but this show really makes it obvious. Originally, Peter's part of a PowerTrio, being an awkward HollywoodNerd orphan, with his best friends being a bookish but sincere girl (Gwen/Hermione) and his best friend being a freckled red-head who is perennially envious of his friends and peers about being OvershadowedByAwesome (Harry Osborn [=/=] Ron Weasley). Peter's also has a rivalry with a haughty blonde jock (Flash [=/=] Draco Malfoy) and later catches the attention of a vivacious redhead who is FunPersonified (MJ[=/=]Ginny).(MJ[=/=]Ginny), and the series' main villain is a man who disguises his identity and actions through subordinates and likewise fakes his death (Green Goblin[=/=]Voldemort).
13th Aug '17 12:50:11 PM JulianLapostat
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** Comparisons between ''Spider-Man'' and ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are dime-a-dozen, but this show really makes it obvious. Originally, Peter's part of a PowerTrio, being an awkward HollywoodNerd orphan, with his best friends being a bookish but sincere girl (Gwen/Hermione) and his best friend being a freckled red-head who is perennially envious of his friends and peers about being OvershadowedByAwesome. Peter's also has a rivalry with a haughty blonde jock (Flash [=/=] Draco Malfoy) and later catches the attention of a vivacious redhead who is FunPersonified (MJ[=/=]Ginny).

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** Comparisons between ''Spider-Man'' and ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are dime-a-dozen, but this show really makes it obvious. Originally, Peter's part of a PowerTrio, being an awkward HollywoodNerd orphan, with his best friends being a bookish but sincere girl (Gwen/Hermione) and his best friend being a freckled red-head who is perennially envious of his friends and peers about being OvershadowedByAwesome.OvershadowedByAwesome (Harry Osborn [=/=] Ron Weasley). Peter's also has a rivalry with a haughty blonde jock (Flash [=/=] Draco Malfoy) and later catches the attention of a vivacious redhead who is FunPersonified (MJ[=/=]Ginny).
13th Aug '17 12:49:29 PM JulianLapostat
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* CounterpartComparison:
** For many fans, this series is to Spider-Man what ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' or rather ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'' (it also ran for two seasons with plots left hanging without a renewal[[note]]It eventually got resolved via the popular ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' but before that the executives insisted ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' come first and even then we never see Clark reveal his identity to Lois in the show, even though she and Superman start a relationship[[/note]]) is to their franchise. An AdaptationDistillation that honors multiple iterations of the character, and with good writing skilfully balances the humor, seriousness, romance, and genre elements with excellent voiceover work that has MultipleDemographicAppeal.
** Comparisons between ''Spider-Man'' and ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are dime-a-dozen, but this show really makes it obvious. Originally, Peter's part of a PowerTrio, being an awkward HollywoodNerd orphan, with his best friends being a bookish but sincere girl (Gwen/Hermione) and his best friend being a freckled red-head who is perennially envious of his friends and peers about being OvershadowedByAwesome. Peter's also has a rivalry with a haughty blonde jock (Flash [=/=] Draco Malfoy) and later catches the attention of a vivacious redhead who is FunPersonified (MJ[=/=]Ginny).
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