History YMMV / TheSpectacularSpiderMan

18th Jun '17 6:18:20 AM NightShade96
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* FriendlyFandoms: The fandom gets along really well with the WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} fandom because they both share Creator/GregWeisman as a creator. [[http://gargwiki.net/Religious_Studies_101:_A_Handful_of_Thorns To the point that Greg Weisman himself]] [[http://s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=844 wrote a non-canon crossover]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZxFc1tZxvc that was performed at the Gathering of the Gargoyles con.]] There is also the ''gigantic'' crossover roleplay Roleplay/TheSpectacularGargoyles.

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* FriendlyFandoms: The fandom gets along really well with the WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} the ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' fandom because they both share Creator/GregWeisman share Creator/GregWeisman as a creator. This got [[http://gargwiki.net/Religious_Studies_101:_A_Handful_of_Thorns To to the point that Greg Weisman himself]] [[http://s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=844 wrote a non-canon crossover]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZxFc1tZxvc that was performed at the Gathering of the Gargoyles con.]] There is also the ''gigantic'' crossover roleplay Roleplay/TheSpectacularGargoyles.''Roleplay/TheSpectacularGargoyles''.



** The first five episodes are entertaining however episode six abandoned the usual 'two fight' format, going for one big fight with The Rhino instead, and then introduced Tombstone.

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** The first five episodes are entertaining however entertaining; however, episode six abandoned the usual 'two fight' "two fight" format, going for one big fight with The Rhino instead, and then introduced Tombstone.



** [[CutShort The title of the 2nd Season finale ]]: ''Final Curtain''.

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** [[CutShort The title of the 2nd Season finale ]]: finale]]: ''Final Curtain''.



* HypeAversion: Unfortunately the fandom has caused this, due to their boasting that this is ''absolutely the best Spider-Man adaptation ever'' and not accepting any other opinion, as well as their consistent (and often times unnecessary) bashing of WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan and [[FanHater its fans]] have scared off a lot of people who missed this show, and caused them to not want to watch it. Either due to disliking said fandom's attitude or feeling it won't stand up to the sheer amount of hype and praise surrounding it.

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* HypeAversion: Unfortunately the fandom has caused this, due to their boasting that this is ''absolutely the best Spider-Man adaptation ever'' and not accepting any other opinion, as well as their consistent (and often times unnecessary) bashing of WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' and [[FanHater its fans]] have scared off a lot of people who missed this show, and caused them to not want to watch it. Either it, either due to disliking said fandom's attitude or feeling it won't stand up to the sheer amount of hype and praise surrounding it.



* [[{{Moe}} Moe]]: Peter and Gwen are so very, very moe.

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* [[{{Moe}} Moe]]: {{Moe}}: Peter and Gwen are so very, very moe.



** [[spoiler: Norman framing Harry solidifies him as an amoral bastard. But injuring Harry's leg to do it demonstrates a casual cruelty and cowardice that erases any hint of redemption.]] Though manipulating Mark Allan was also up there.
** Jonah's behaviour in "Identity Crisis" is pretty despicable, taking the utmost joy in the possibility that his teenaged photographer is Spider-Man, fully knowing people would want to KILL HIM and anyone he knows if his identity is revealed.

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** [[spoiler: Norman framing Harry solidifies him as an amoral bastard. But bastard, but injuring Harry's leg to do it demonstrates a casual cruelty and cowardice that erases any hint of redemption.]] Though manipulating Mark Allan was also up there.
** Jonah's behaviour in "Identity Crisis" is pretty despicable, taking the utmost joy in the possibility that his teenaged photographer is Spider-Man, fully knowing that people would want to KILL HIM and anyone he knows if his identity is revealed.



* PeripheryDemographic: Many of the show's fans appear to be adults. This is most likely because Creator/GregWeisman was working on it, who has many fans that were children when WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} came out and by the time Spectacular was created they have grown up. The topnotch writing and fight scenes don't hurt either.

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* PeripheryDemographic: Many of the show's fans appear to be adults. This is most likely because Creator/GregWeisman was working on it, who has many fans that were children when WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' came out and by the time Spectacular ''Spectacular'' was created they have grown up. The topnotch top-notch writing and fight scenes don't hurt either.



* WhatAnIdiot: Peter Parker, during his relationship with Liz Allan. He doesn't even attempt to hide that he has feelings for Gwen (or doesn't even realize he shouldn't be making it that obvious) even when '''right in front of Liz'''.
** Also, his attitude towards Dr. Connor; when Connor became the Lizard, he took picture of himself fighting Lizard, making it look like he (as Peter) had been hiding and choosing to do his photograph job over helping Connor. Now, this could be forgivable as a one-time mistake, but he does it ''again'' in ''Persona'', when he takes pictures of his fight with Black Cat over the symbiote, making it look ''again'' like he couldn't even bother to call the police. Even worst, Brock actually told him he couldn't take pictures right before precisely because of the trust issue.
** Not to mention he and Gwen deciding to break up with Liz and Harry at the end of Season 2. This coming right after Peter spent all season not showing up to his and Liz's dates (admittedly for crime-fighting), showed favoritism to Gwen over her on Valentine's Day, and Mark Allan's arrest for supervillain activities. Not to mention the fact that Harry was kidnapped by the Green Goblin and a struggling addict who had his secret outed by Flash a number of days prior.

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* WhatAnIdiot: WhatAnIdiot:
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Peter Parker, during his relationship with Liz Allan. He doesn't even attempt to hide that he has feelings for Gwen (or doesn't even realize he shouldn't be making it that obvious) even when '''right in front of Liz'''.
** Also, his attitude towards Dr. Connor; when Connor became the Lizard, he took picture of himself fighting Lizard, making it look like he (as Peter) had been hiding and choosing to do his photograph job over helping Connor. Now, this could be forgivable as a one-time mistake, but he does it ''again'' in ''Persona'', when he takes pictures of his fight with Black Cat over the symbiote, making it look ''again'' like he couldn't even bother to call the police. Even worst, Brock actually told him he couldn't take pictures right before precisely because of the trust issue.
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*** Not to mention he and Gwen deciding to break up with Liz and Harry at the end of Season 2. This is coming right after Peter spent all season not showing up to his and Liz's dates (admittedly for crime-fighting), showed favoritism to Gwen over her on Valentine's Day, and Mark Allan's arrest for supervillain activities. Not to mention the fact that Harry was kidnapped by the Green Goblin and a struggling addict who had his secret outed by Flash a number of days prior.



** Also, his attitude towards Dr. Connors; when Connors became the Lizard, he took a picture of himself fighting Lizard, making it look like he (as Peter) had been hiding and choosing to do his photograph job over helping Connors. Now, this could be forgivable as a one-time mistake, but he does it ''again'' in ''Persona'', when he takes pictures of his fight with Black Cat over the symbiote, making it look ''again'' like he couldn't even bother to call the police. Even worse, Brock actually told him he couldn't take pictures right before precisely because of the trust issue.



** JerkassWoobie: just like the comics, Harry is this. He may have ditched his friends when he was InWithTheInCrowd and [[spoiler: manipulated Gwen into staying with him]], but given how his home life is and how he's treated in general, you can't blame him.

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** JerkassWoobie: just Just like in the comics, Harry is this. He may have ditched his friends when he was InWithTheInCrowd and [[spoiler: manipulated Gwen into staying with him]], but given how his home life is and how he's treated in general, you can't blame him.him.
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30th May '17 10:55:40 PM dsneybuf
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** Any episode with Electro fighting Spider-Man might seem like this, after both of their voice actors can claim to have also played [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man II]] (Crispin Freeman in a 2012 ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' episode, Josh Keaton in some 2017 ''Ant-Man'' shorts).

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** Any episode with Electro fighting Spider-Man might seem like this, after both of their voice actors can claim to have also played [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man II]] (Crispin Freeman in a 2012 ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' episode, Josh Keaton in some 2017 ''Ant-Man'' shorts).shorts and ''[[WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble Avengers: Secret Wars]]'').
22nd May '17 9:45:13 PM dsneybuf
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** Any episode with Electro fighting Spider-Man might seem like this, after both of their voice actors can claim to have also played ComicBook/AntMan (Crispin Freeman in a 2012 ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' episode, Josh Keaton in some 2017 ''Ant-Man'' shorts).

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** Any episode with Electro fighting Spider-Man might seem like this, after both of their voice actors can claim to have also played ComicBook/AntMan [[ComicBook/AntMan Ant-Man II]] (Crispin Freeman in a 2012 ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' episode, Josh Keaton in some 2017 ''Ant-Man'' shorts).
8th Feb '17 10:10:49 AM dsneybuf
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** The art style is a point of debate, as is the presence and/or lack of certain characters, and how they're portrayed. Then there's the New show...

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** The art style is a point of debate, as is the presence and/or lack of certain characters, and how they're portrayed. Then there's the New show...
11th Jan '17 10:39:10 AM Anicomicgeek
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* FandomRivalry: Primarily with ''[[WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries The Animated Series]]'' and ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan.'' With the former, fandom got into nasty arguments over which is the "definitive" animated Spider-series. With the latter, Ultimate was Disney's replacement series for Spectacular.

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* FandomRivalry: Primarily with ''[[WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries The Animated Series]]'' and ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan.'' With the former, fandom got into nasty arguments over which is the "definitive" animated Spider-series. With the latter, Ultimate ''Ultimate'' was Disney's replacement series for Spectacular.''Spectacular''.



* GrowingTheBeard: The first five episodes are entertaining however episode six abandoned the usual 'two fight' format, going for one big fight with The Rhino instead, and then introduced Tombstone.

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* GrowingTheBeard: GrowingTheBeard:
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The first five episodes are entertaining however episode six abandoned the usual 'two fight' format, going for one big fight with The Rhino instead, and then introduced Tombstone.
11th Jan '17 10:22:44 AM Anicomicgeek
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* BrokenBase: The art style is a point of debate, as is the presence and/or lack of certain characters, and how they're portrayed. Then there's the New show...

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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
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The art style is a point of debate, as is the presence and/or lack of certain characters, and how they're portrayed. Then there's the New show...



* DracoInLeatherPants: For the first time in his life, Doctor Octopus.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: DracoInLeatherPants:
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For the first time in his life, Doctor Octopus.



* FoeYay: The entire Symbiote arc. Venom--or more accurately, the symbiote itself--acts as a spurned ex/stalker towards Peter Parker. Eddie Brock doesn't seem to have much issue with this either, judging by all of those unsettling leers aimed at the web-head. Of course that could just be the symbiote's influence, but it's certainly there regardless.
** The symbiote doesn't seem to have any problem going on about how much it just wants to be with Spider-Man. Spidey even refers to himself (albeit somewhat ironically) as its "first love" at the end of "Nature vs Nurture". Venom seems to hate Spider-Man just as much as it wants him back/to itself.

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* FoeYay: FoeYay:
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The entire Symbiote arc. Venom--or more accurately, the symbiote itself--acts as a spurned ex/stalker towards Peter Parker. Eddie Brock doesn't seem to have much issue with this either, judging by all of those unsettling leers aimed at the web-head. Of course that could just be the symbiote's influence, but it's certainly there regardless.
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regardless. The symbiote doesn't seem to have any problem going on about how much it just wants to be with Spider-Man. Spidey even refers to himself (albeit somewhat ironically) as its "first love" at the end of "Nature vs Nurture". Venom seems to hate Spider-Man just as much as it wants him back/to itself.



* HarsherInHindsight: Remember the Lizard's failed attempt to eat his own son in his one appearance? Becomes a lot more disturbing when you remember that the comics would have him succeed in doing that a few years later.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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Remember the Lizard's failed attempt to eat his own son in his one appearance? Becomes a lot more disturbing when you remember that the comics would have him succeed in doing that a few years later.
11th Jan '17 10:20:11 AM Anicomicgeek
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Norman framing Harry solidifies him as an amoral bastard. But injuring Harry's leg to do it demonstrates a casual cruelty and cowardice that erases any hint of redemption.]] Though manipulating Mark Allan was also up there.

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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[[spoiler: Norman framing Harry solidifies him as an amoral bastard. But injuring Harry's leg to do it demonstrates a casual cruelty and cowardice that erases any hint of redemption.]] Though manipulating Mark Allan was also up there.



* WTHCastingAgency: Tinkerer's voice makes him sound like a child, when he's supposed to be an old man. It's obvious that the voice was misused, since years later, Adcox would indeed use the same voice [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice when cast as a child.]]
** That's Adcox's actual voice, and he's about as old as Tinkerer.

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* WTHCastingAgency: Tinkerer's voice makes him sound like a child, when he's supposed to be an old man. It's obvious that the voice was misused, since years later, Adcox would indeed use the same voice [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice when cast as a child.]]
** That's
]] However, that's Adcox's actual voice, and he's about as old as Tinkerer.
21st Nov '16 8:49:50 PM Lionheart0
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* FandomRivalry: Primarily with ''[[WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries The Animated Series]]'' and ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan.'' With the former, fandom got into nasty arguments over which is the "definitive" animated Spider-series. With the latter, Ultimate was Disney's replacement series for Spectacular.
4th Nov '16 2:22:13 PM dsneybuf
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** Any episode with Electro fighting Spider-Man might seem like this, after both of their voice actors can claim to have also played ComicBook/AntMan (Crispin Freeman in a 2012 ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' episode, Josh Keaton in some 2017 ''Ant-Man'' shorts).
14th Oct '16 9:04:35 PM PrincessGwen
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* HypeAversion: Unfortunately the fandom has caused this, due to their boasting that this is ''absolutely the best Spider-Man adaptation ever'' and not accepting any other opinion, as well as their consistent (and often times unnecessary) bashing of WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan and [[FanHater it's fans]] have scared off a lot of people who missed this show, and caused them to not want to watch it. Either due to disliking said fandom's attitude or feeling it won't stand up to the sheer amount of hype and praise surrounding it.

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* HypeAversion: Unfortunately the fandom has caused this, due to their boasting that this is ''absolutely the best Spider-Man adaptation ever'' and not accepting any other opinion, as well as their consistent (and often times unnecessary) bashing of WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan and [[FanHater it's its fans]] have scared off a lot of people who missed this show, and caused them to not want to watch it. Either due to disliking said fandom's attitude or feeling it won't stand up to the sheer amount of hype and praise surrounding it.



** JerkassWoobie: just like the comics,Harry is this.He may have ditched his friends when he was InWithTheInCrowd and [[spoiler: manipulated Gwen into staying with him]], but given how his home life is and how he's treated in general, you can't blame him.

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** JerkassWoobie: just like the comics,Harry comics, Harry is this.this. He may have ditched his friends when he was InWithTheInCrowd and [[spoiler: manipulated Gwen into staying with him]], but given how his home life is and how he's treated in general, you can't blame him.
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