History YMMV / TheSiege

20th Feb '17 10:17:10 PM CrowTR0bot
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** General Devereaux having a HeelRealization about his actions becomes metatextually hypocritical, considering that Bruce Willis has endorsed Donald Trump.

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** General Devereaux having a HeelRealization about his actions becomes [[IgnoredEpiphany metatextually hypocritical, hypocritical]], considering that Bruce Willis has endorsed Donald Trump.
14th Feb '17 1:39:13 PM CrowTR0bot
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** General Devereaux having a HeelRealization about his actions becomes metatextually hypocrtical, considering that Bruce Willis has endorsed Donald Trump.

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** General Devereaux having a HeelRealization about his actions becomes metatextually hypocrtical, hypocritical, considering that Bruce Willis has endorsed Donald Trump.
14th Feb '17 1:38:19 PM CrowTR0bot
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** General Devereaux having a HeelRealization about his actions becomes metatextually hypocrtical, considering that Bruce Willis has endorsed Donald Trump.
28th Jan '17 3:15:10 PM blockboy
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** Come 2017 and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_the_Nation_from_Foreign_Terrorist_Entry_into_the_United_States Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States]] act has resulted in Iraqi refugees being detained in airports.

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** Come 2017 and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_the_Nation_from_Foreign_Terrorist_Entry_into_the_United_States Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States]] act order has resulted in Iraqi refugees being detained in airports.
28th Jan '17 3:14:24 PM blockboy
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** Come 2017 and the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_the_Nation_from_Foreign_Terrorist_Entry_into_the_United_States Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States]] act has resulted in Iraqi refugees being detained in airports.
21st Jan '17 7:58:04 PM creader
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* {{Anvilicious}}/SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:

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* RetroactiveRecognition: That patrol cop at the second bus hostage scene who tells Hubbard that there are kids on the bus? That's Wood Harris, before he became better known as Avon Barksdale in ''Series/TheWire''. And Floyd Rose is played by Lance Reddick, who ''Wire'' fans will better know from playing Cedric Daniels.
29th Feb '16 8:18:41 AM Kalaong
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** General Devereaux is arrested for first-degree premeditated homicide in regards to the torture and murder of a single suspect. After the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse Abu Ghraib]] scandals, absolutely ''zero'' enlisted personnel were tried for '''any crimes whatsoever.'''[[note]]Several were released from duty, but not tried for any crimes.[[/note]] Ultimately, it's as if Devereaux got off, but ''all his men'' were blamed for '''his''' crimes!
31st Dec '15 11:37:45 PM dmcreif
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** From a rather specific point of view, they're all right: Hubbard's steadfast belief in the law is what you'd expect from an FBI agent, but it's utterly useless against the dedicated terrorists he's up against. Elise's attempts to sway and use people have their uses, as she's able to help identify several cells and gather needed intelligence to take them down, but the blowback from her operations years before the main plot were what set everything off. And Devereaux specifically argued against martial law, and specifically stated that he didn't want to do it, but he was ordered to and therefore he was doing it. He's not wrong to follow orders, and he has the best intentions in mind, but he does take it too far without realizing it.

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** From a rather specific point of view, they're all right: Hubbard's steadfast belief in the law is what you'd expect from an FBI agent, but it's utterly useless against the dedicated Islamic terrorists he's up against.who will die for their cause. Elise's attempts to sway and use people have their uses, as she's able to help identify several cells and gather needed intelligence to take them down, but the blowback from her operations years before the main plot were what set everything off. And Devereaux specifically argued against martial law, and specifically stated that he didn't want to do it, but he was ordered to and therefore he was doing it. He's not wrong to follow orders, and he has the best intentions in mind, but he does take it too far without realizing it.



** This trope is also inverted of sort in that the tipping point is a bombing of an FBI building that kills over 600 people. The movie treats it as the most horrific terrorist act that could ever happen in the US. As it turns out, the planners behind 9/11 had a scarier idea. Though in the movie, part of the reason the attack on One Federal Plaza was so devastating was that with the FBI counterterrorism office destroyed, their capability to respond to additional attacks was severely weakened.

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** This trope is also inverted of sort in that the tipping point is a bombing of an FBI building field office that kills over 600 people. The movie treats it as the most horrific terrorist act that could ever happen in the US. As it turns out, More than four times that many people were killed at the planners behind 9/11 had a scarier idea.World Trade Center alone, and more than five times that many once the deaths from the Pentagon and United Airlines Flight 93 are added on. Though in the movie, part of the reason the attack on One Federal Plaza was so devastating was that with the FBI counterterrorism office destroyed, their capability to respond to additional attacks was severely weakened.
24th Oct '15 6:36:36 AM Fireblood
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[Creator/BruceWillis General Devereaux]] says, when explaining how martial law on Brooklyn might look, "[[Film/TheExpendables We will hunt down the enemy, we will find the enemy and we will kill the enemy.]]"

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* HilariousInHindsight: [[Creator/BruceWillis General Devereaux]] says, when explaining how martial law on in Brooklyn might would look, "[[Film/TheExpendables We will hunt down the enemy, we will find the enemy enemy, and we will kill the enemy.]]"



** The initial response to the various terrorist attacks. This is especially most noticeable when Hubbard, Frank and Elise respond to the theater bombing. When they arrive, the fire department has set up an active triage center to treat people who have been injured by shrapnel (dead bodies are being covered up), and at one point, Hubbard's eyes fall on a woman staggering down a staircase with her left arm missing below the elbow.

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** The initial response to the various terrorist attacks. This is especially most noticeable when Hubbard, Frank and Elise respond to the theater bombing. When they arrive, the fire department has set up an active triage center to treat people who have been injured by shrapnel (dead bodies are being covered up), and at one point, Hubbard's eyes fall on a woman staggering down a staircase with her left arm missing below the elbow.
19th Sep '15 8:54:48 AM Pren
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* ValuesResonance: It's honestly quite hard to believe that this film was made before 9/11. Devereaux's HeelRealization at the end resonates quite strongly with the racial profiling and curbing of freedoms ever since the attack.
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