History YMMV / TheSearchers

23rd May '16 1:40:45 PM Kitchen90
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23rd May '16 1:39:36 PM Kitchen90
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** The first time we see Henry Brandon as Scar. He is ''obviously'' wearing makeup.

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** The first time we see Henry Brandon as Scar. He is ''obviously'' wearing makeup.make-up.



* VindicatedByHistory: The film was a box-office hit in its day but not regarded as anything more than a typical John Wayne potboiler, at least in America (the French, especially Creator/JeanLucGodard, really liked it). Even Ford fans like Lindsay Anderson were skeptical about it. It was only in the 70s that its reputation grew. It was a major cult film for the UsefulNotes/NewHollywood with Creator/PaulSchrader, Creator/JohnMilius, Creator/GeorgeLucas and Creator/MartinScorsese spearheading the revival of its reputation and talking of its influence.

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* VindicatedByHistory: The film was a box-office hit in its day but not regarded as anything more than a typical John Wayne potboiler, at least in America (the French, especially Creator/JeanLucGodard, really liked it). Even Ford fans like Lindsay Anderson were skeptical about it. It was only in the 70s that its reputation grew. It was a major cult film for the UsefulNotes/NewHollywood with Creator/PaulSchrader, Creator/JohnMilius, Creator/GeorgeLucas and Creator/MartinScorsese spearheading the revival of its reputation and talking of its influence.influence.
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[[folder:The British 1960s band]]
* CreatorBacklash: When the band was given "Sugar and Spice", drummer Chris Curtis allegedly hated the song, but eventually agreed to sing the countertenor backing vocables.
* PoorMansSubstitute: The band were often accused of being copies of Music/TheBeatles, although, due to the large amount of British boy bands that were part of the British Invasion, '''every''' band that was not The Beatles were accused of trying to be The Beatles.
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7th Feb '16 8:35:50 AM Freshmeat
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* AwardSnub: Received no nominations at the Oscars. Rather ironic, considering how the film is now viewed as a MagnumOpus for Creator/JohnFord, who was otherwise the most rewarded director in the Oscar's history. Of course this was a time when westerns were generally regarded as disposable entertainment and none of Ford's westerns won him an Oscar.

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* AwardSnub: Received no nominations at the Oscars. Rather ironic, considering how the film is now viewed as a MagnumOpus for masterpiece by Creator/JohnFord, who was otherwise the most rewarded director in the Oscar's history. Of course this was a time when westerns were generally regarded as disposable entertainment and none of Ford's westerns won him an Oscar.



* MagnumOpus: For both John Wayne and John Ford.
25th Dec '15 4:31:50 PM nombretomado
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* VindicatedByHistory: The film was a box-office hit in its day but not regarded as anything more than a typical John Wayne potboiler, at least in America (the French, especially Creator/JeanLucGodard, really liked it). Even Ford fans like Lindsay Anderson were skeptical about it. It was only in the 70s that its reputation grew. It was a major cult film for the NewHollywood with Creator/PaulSchrader, Creator/JohnMilius, Creator/GeorgeLucas and Creator/MartinScorsese spearheading the revival of its reputation and talking of its influence.

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* VindicatedByHistory: The film was a box-office hit in its day but not regarded as anything more than a typical John Wayne potboiler, at least in America (the French, especially Creator/JeanLucGodard, really liked it). Even Ford fans like Lindsay Anderson were skeptical about it. It was only in the 70s that its reputation grew. It was a major cult film for the NewHollywood UsefulNotes/NewHollywood with Creator/PaulSchrader, Creator/JohnMilius, Creator/GeorgeLucas and Creator/MartinScorsese spearheading the revival of its reputation and talking of its influence.
14th Dec '15 11:08:26 AM JulianLapostat
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* AwardSnub: Received no nominations at the Oscars. Rather ironic, considering how the film is now viewed as a MagnumOpus for Creator/JohnFord, who was otherwise the most rewarded director in the Oscar's history.

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* AwardSnub: Received no nominations at the Oscars. Rather ironic, considering how the film is now viewed as a MagnumOpus for Creator/JohnFord, who was otherwise the most rewarded director in the Oscar's history. Of course this was a time when westerns were generally regarded as disposable entertainment and none of Ford's westerns won him an Oscar.
14th Dec '15 11:07:33 AM JulianLapostat
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Henry Brandon's handsome features and brooding performance as Scar has won him a lot of fans. They also note that the film presents Scar as Ethan's doppelganger and that the Comanches have justifiable FreudianExcuse for attacking settlers.
* EvilIsCool: The Comanches in the film (as played by the Navajo) and Scar are pretty awesome and cool foes. John Milius (screenwriter of Film/ApocalypseNow, director of The Wind and the Lion) admitted on seeing the film that he totally rooted for the Comanches, saying they were badass awesome warriors ("These are not jackals but Lions!"). He also admits "I wanted to be Scar".

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Henry Brandon's handsome features and brooding performance as Scar has won him a lot of fans. They also note that the film presents Scar as Ethan's doppelganger and that the Comanches have justifiable FreudianExcuse for attacking settlers.
settlers what with the whole encroachment on the land, racism and passive genocide.
* EvilIsCool: The Comanches in the film (as played by the Navajo) and Scar are pretty awesome and cool foes. John Milius (screenwriter of Film/ApocalypseNow, director of The Wind and the Lion) admitted on seeing the film that he totally [[RootingForTheEmpire rooted for the Comanches, Comanches]], saying they were badass awesome warriors ("These are not jackals but Lions!"). He also admits "I wanted to be Scar".
14th Dec '15 11:06:29 AM JulianLapostat
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Henry Brandon's handsome features and brooding performance as Scar has won him a lot of fans. They also note that the film presents Scar as Ethan's doppelganger and that the Comanches have justifiable FreudianExcuse for attacking settlers.
* EvilIsCool: The Comanches in the film (as played by the Navajo) and Scar are pretty awesome and cool foes. John Milius (screenwriter of Film/ApocalypseNow, director of The Wind and the Lion) admitted on seeing the film that he totally rooted for the Comanches, saying they were badass awesome warriors ("These are not jackals but Lions!"). He also admits "I wanted to be Scar".
29th Oct '15 8:22:30 PM RushLimborg
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*** The vast majority of the actors, in fact, easily come across as ChewingTheScenery and at times shouting out lines. It kinda says something that Creator/JohnWayne is the most ''subtle'' of the cast.
27th Sep '15 12:20:58 PM Morgenthaler
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* AwardSnub: Received no nominations at the Oscars. Rather ironic, considering how the film is now viewed as a MagnumOpus for JohnFord, who was otherwise the most rewarded director in the Oscar's history.

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* AwardSnub: Received no nominations at the Oscars. Rather ironic, considering how the film is now viewed as a MagnumOpus for JohnFord, Creator/JohnFord, who was otherwise the most rewarded director in the Oscar's history.
8th Sep '15 12:01:43 AM RushLimborg
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** SeinfeldIsUnfunny: It's a racist Western; so what's the big deal? Well, the "big deal" is that it was ''the'' genre-buster for the older, shiny-white-good-guys version of TheWestern, and was so powerful that virtually every Western, and a huge number of films in general that followed, felt compelled either try to respond to it in ''some'' way to avoid being tacky, or to at least homage and acknowledge it. Also, it must be noted that in the classic era, there were very few movies that actually deal with settler/native relations with the same kind of honesty and lack of BlackAndWhiteMorality, as noted by author Sherman Alexie.

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** SeinfeldIsUnfunny: It's a racist Western; Western about racism; so what's the big deal? Well, the "big deal" is that it was ''the'' genre-buster for the older, shiny-white-good-guys version of TheWestern, and was so powerful that virtually every Western, and a huge number of films in general that followed, felt compelled either try to respond to it in ''some'' way to avoid being tacky, or to at least homage and acknowledge it. Also, it must be noted that in the classic era, there were very few movies that actually deal with settler/native relations with the same kind of honesty and lack of BlackAndWhiteMorality, as noted by author Sherman Alexie.
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