History YMMV / TheRockyHorrorPictureShow

28th Sep '17 9:53:54 AM NWolfman
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* FairForItsDay: The film is very much a product of its time, celebrating the then-recent sexual revolution and what modicum of visibility queer people had within 1970s counterculture. As mentioned on ThisVeryWiki, the [[SocietyMarchesOn increased awareness of gay and trans rights since 1975]] have questioned the film's decision to depict gay people and cross-dressers as [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything literal aliens]] (an appropriate metaphor at the time, now it feels somewhat backhanded) with some even calling it outright transphobic.

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* FairForItsDay: The film is very much a product of its time, celebrating the then-recent sexual revolution and what modicum of visibility queer people had within 1970s counterculture. As mentioned on ThisVeryWiki, the [[SocietyMarchesOn increased awareness of gay and trans rights since 1975]] have questioned the film's decision to depict gay people and cross-dressers as [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything literal aliens]] (an appropriate metaphor at the time, now it feels somewhat backhanded) with some even calling it outright transphobic. A big reason that the 2015 TV version didn't go over too well was because many felt that the producers were merely capitalizing on it's legacy despite not truly understanding what it was about.
28th Sep '17 9:42:28 AM NWolfman
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** The movie also has a sizable LGBTFanbase despite depicting queer characters in a way that would be considered cringey today.

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** The movie also has a sizable LGBTFanbase despite depicting Despite some of the more dated depictions of queer characters people, it remains one of the most popular films in a way that would be considered cringey today.queer cinema to this day.
21st Sep '17 12:30:56 AM KingClark
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* OneSceneWonder: Music/MeatLoaf's role as Eddie in ''Rocky Horror''. He bursts out of a freezer (on a motorcycle, of course), sings a song, and is not seen or heard from again. Until the dinner guests realize that [[ImAHumanitarian he's become the main course]]. "[[AudienceParticipationSong Meatloaf]] [[ActorAllusion again?!]]"

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* OneSceneWonder: Music/MeatLoaf's role as Eddie in ''Rocky Horror''. He bursts out of a freezer (on a motorcycle, of course), sings a song, and is not seen or heard from again. Until the dinner guests realize that [[ImAHumanitarian he's become the main course]]. "[[AudienceParticipationSong [[note]]"[[AudienceParticipationSong Meatloaf]] [[ActorAllusion again?!]]"again?!]]"[[/note]]
19th Sep '17 12:20:34 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* FairForItsDay: The film is very much a product of it's time, celebrating the then-recent sexual revolution and what modicum of visibility queer people had within 1970s counter culture. As mentioned on ThisVeryWiki, the [[SocietyMarchesOn increased awareness of gay and trans rights since 1975]] have questioned the film's decision to depict gay people and cross-dressers as [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything literal aliens]] (an appropriate metaphor at the time, now it feels somewhat backhanded) with some even calling it outright transphobic.

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* FairForItsDay: The film is very much a product of it's its time, celebrating the then-recent sexual revolution and what modicum of visibility queer people had within 1970s counter culture.counterculture. As mentioned on ThisVeryWiki, the [[SocietyMarchesOn increased awareness of gay and trans rights since 1975]] have questioned the film's decision to depict gay people and cross-dressers as [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything literal aliens]] (an appropriate metaphor at the time, now it feels somewhat backhanded) with some even calling it outright transphobic.



** The movie also has a sizable LGBTFanbase.

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** The movie also has a sizable LGBTFanbase.LGBTFanbase despite depicting queer characters in a way that would be considered cringey today.
6th Sep '17 11:35:33 AM NWolfman
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** Not to mention Frank dressing most of the characters as him and proceeding to have an elaborate floor show with them

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** Not to mention Frank dressing most of the characters as him and proceeding to have an elaborate floor show with themthem. It makes sense from a character standpoint that Frank would treat all of them as his personal play things, dressing them up and making them put on a show for his own entertainment, but [[note]]WHERE DO YOU MASTURBATE??[[/note]]in an empty house? [[note]]''WHEN'' DO YOU MASTURBATE??[[/note]]In the middle of the night?
6th Sep '17 11:32:28 AM NWolfman
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* AdaptationDisplacement: In America at least, where hardly anyone has heard of the Musical/Stageshow. However, it's pretty popular its native UK.

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* AccidentalAesop: Assuming that Transylvanians are meant to represent LBGTQ+ people, Riff Raff telling [[AllGaysArePromiscuous Frank]] that his lifestyle is "too extreme" could be read as certain queer people telling others to StopBeingStereotypical.
* AdaptationDisplacement: In America at least, where hardly anyone has heard of the Musical/Stageshow.''The Rocky Horror Show'' stage production. However, it's pretty popular its native UK.


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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Despite some contingencies among LGBTQ+ activists as to whether or not this movie's representation of them holds up, it's important to remember that Frank is the only Transylvanian who commits any seriously monstrous crimes like murder and rape, not to mention is directly called out for it when Riff Raff tells him that his "lifestyle's too extreme." And while Riff Raff and Magenta have their [[BrotherSisterIncest questionable relationship]], the most harm they do to anyone else is scare Rocky with the candelabra.
6th Sep '17 11:22:35 AM NWolfman
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* FairForItsDay: The film is very much a product of it's time, celebrating the then-recent sexual revolution and what modicum of visibility queer people had within 1970s counter culture. As mentioned on ThisVeryWiki, the [[SocietyMarchesOn increased awareness of gay and trans rights since 1975]] have questioned the film's decision to depict gay people and cross-dressers as [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything literal aliens]] (an appropriate metaphor at the time, now it feels somewhat backhanded) with some even calling it outright transphobic.
3rd Sep '17 5:29:52 AM Ingonyama
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** The 2015 TV remake is largely a shot-for-shot remake of the original. With the exception of the Usherette character being utilized in the remake, no other elements from the original stage production ''not'' used in the 1975 film aren't presented in the remake. Rocky is even still mute, even though here there's no reason for him to be. Columbia's death is also exactly the same as in the 1975 film.

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** The 2015 TV remake is largely a shot-for-shot remake of the original. With the exception of the Usherette character being utilized in the remake, no other elements from the original stage production ''not'' used in the 1975 film aren't are presented in the remake. Rocky is even still mute, even though here there's no reason for him to be. Columbia's death is also exactly the same as in the 1975 film.
2nd Sep '17 5:53:09 PM stephrose
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%%** The Zen Room.

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%%** ** The Zen Room.Room.
** Not to mention Frank dressing most of the characters as him and proceeding to have an elaborate floor show with them
30th Aug '17 7:00:03 PM HamburgerTime
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* ValuesDissonance: The reason why the film is polarizing in the LGBT community is the fact that [[{{Crossdresser}} Frank]] is portrayed as a perverted nutjob, something that is viewed today as a very negative stereotype of homo[=/=]transsexuals.

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* ValuesDissonance: The reason why the film is polarizing in the LGBT community is the fact that [[{{Crossdresser}} Frank]] is portrayed as a perverted nutjob, something that is viewed today as a very negative stereotype of homo[=/=]transsexuals. On the other hand, the film's BeYourself moral is played straight, and creator Richard O'Brien identifies as nonbinary in real life.
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