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** Furthermore, Zachary Mason's ''The Lost Books Of The Odyssey'' is ''full'' of AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, such as the story from the POV of a solitary, gentle Cyclops, one where Odysseus [[UnreliableNarrator actually crafted most of the story up in his life as a bard]], and one that posits that [[WildMassGuessing both]] ''[[WildMassGuessing The Iliad]]'' [[WildMassGuessing and]] ''[[WildMassGuessing The Odyssey]]'' [[WildMassGuessing are an extremely elaborate description of a chess game]].

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** Furthermore, Zachary Mason's ''The Lost Books Of The Odyssey'' is ''full'' of AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, such as the story from the POV of a solitary, gentle Cyclops, one where Odysseus [[UnreliableNarrator actually crafted most of the story up in his life as a bard]], and one that posits that [[WildMassGuessing both]] ''[[WildMassGuessing The Iliad]]'' [[WildMassGuessing and]] ''[[WildMassGuessing The Odyssey]]'' [[WildMassGuessing both ''The Iliad'' and ''The Odyssey'' are an extremely elaborate description of a chess game]].game.

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* {{Narm}}: In one of the live-action adaptations, Odysseus' mother being DrivenToSuicide involves a shouting match between her and Penelope and a servant rolling around on the ground doing... something. It's very hard to take the scene seriously with all that.

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* {{Narm}}: In one The 1997 mini series adaptation is loaded with these moments, from [[ChewingTheScenery bouts of the live-action adaptations, over-the-top acting]], to [[SpecialEffectFailure really dodgy visual effects]], in particular when Odysseus' mother being DrivenToSuicide involves a shouting match between her and Penelope and a servant rolling around on the ground doing... something. It's What should be an intense TearJerker becomes very hard to take the scene seriously with all that.


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** Polyphemus eating Odysseus' men. Especially in the 1997 mini series, where it seems we're spared the gruesome sight while he takes one poor sod offscreen, slams him into the ground a few times, then chomps away like he's a candy bar... Then reels back with the bloody half-eaten corpse of the man now missing his head and a large portion of his upper body, all messily ripped away by the Cyclops' teeth.
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** Given Penelope's canon lack of reaction to Odysseus's killing of the suitors and maids, people have been fighting over how to interpret her character. Is she shocked and angry with Odysseus for the bloodshed, further highlighting the tragedy of Odysseus being irreparably changed by the Trojan war? Or does she actually feel relief, making her just as bloodthirsty as Odysseus and further hightlighting their BirdOfAFeather relationship?

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** Given Penelope's canon lack of reaction to Odysseus's killing of the suitors and maids, people have been fighting over how to interpret her character. Is she shocked and angry with Odysseus for the bloodshed, further highlighting the tragedy of Odysseus being irreparably changed by the Trojan war? Or does she actually feel relief, making her just as bloodthirsty as Odysseus and further hightlighting their BirdOfAFeather BirdsOfAFeather relationship?
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** Given Penelope's canon lack of reaction to Odysseus's killing of the suitors and maids, people have been fighting over how to interpret her character. Is she shocked and angry with Odysseus for the bloodshed, further highlighting the tragedy of Odysseus being irreparably changed by the Trojan war? Or does she actually feel relief, making her just as bloodthirsty as Odysseus and further hightlighting their BirdOfAFeather relationship?
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** Nowadays, Odysseus and Telemaches executing the handmaidens who slept with the suitors (who likely wouldn't have had a choice in the matter) and the goatherd who allied himself with them seems rather... unnecessary, and are cut from most retellings. The ones that do leave it in (like the TV miniseries) usually cut it down to a single handmaiden who is unintentionally killed in the crossfire [[LaserGuidedKarma trying to aid the suitors]]. This is a major focus of Creator/MargaretAtwood's ''The Penelopiad'', which naturally depicts Odysseus' actions in a negative light.

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** Nowadays, Odysseus and Telemaches executing the handmaidens who slept with the suitors (who (even though the handmaidens very likely wouldn't have had a choice in the matter) and the goatherd who allied himself with them seems rather... unnecessary, and are cut from most retellings. The ones that do leave it in (like the TV miniseries) usually cut it down to a single handmaiden who is unintentionally killed in the crossfire [[LaserGuidedKarma trying to aid the suitors]]. This is a major focus of Creator/MargaretAtwood's ''The Penelopiad'', which naturally depicts Odysseus' actions in a negative light.

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** Creator/MargaretAtwood's ''The Penelopiad'' retells the story from the point of view of the women left behind on Ithaca, Penelope and the maids of hers that Telemachus hangs in ''The Odyssey''.
** Some have taken note of the fact that many of Odysseus' adventures are not seen directly, but recounted to the Phaeacians after the fact. Because of this, there have been plenty of people who speculate that Odysseus was embellishing the story -- or even outright making things up.

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** Creator/MargaretAtwood's ''The Penelopiad'' retells the story from the point of view of the women left behind on Ithaca, Penelope and the maids of hers that Telemachus hangs in ''The Odyssey''.
** Some have taken note of the fact that many of Odysseus' adventures are not seen directly, but recounted to the Phaeacians after the fact. Because of this, there have been plenty of people who speculate that Odysseus was embellishing the story -- or even outright making things up. ''The Penelopiad'' (see below) plays with this; for every person who brings Penelope tales of her husband's adventures, there's another who tells her a far more realistic and less glamorous version of events e.g. instead of being a cyclops, Polyphemus is a one-eyed tavern owner who fights with Odysseus for being stiffed over the bar tab, the Sirens are actually sex workers wearing feathered costumes working out of a fancy brothel, etc.


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** Creator/MargaretAtwood's ''The Penelopiad'' retells the story from the point of view of the women left behind on Ithaca, Penelope and the maids of hers that Telemachus hangs in ''The Odyssey''.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Odysseus has been away from Ithaca for twenty years, and Telemachos is just beginning to take control of his family in the last six months or so. So who's been ruling Ithaca? That's right: Penelope.
** As detailed below, Odysseus' famous bow is actually a recurve bow, that has to be strung in a completely different way from a straight bow, looks like one when unstrung, and was a new technological development in the time of the ''Odyssey''. All of this explains why the suitors couldn't string it: they had no idea what they were dealing with.
** Speaking of the bow, one would wonder why it was left home - likely because the Achaeans expected the expedition to Troy to be solved with Priam taking a good look at just how many ships had arrived and turn over Paris (who had also broken SacredHospitality), Helen, and the stolen treasure, so Odysseus didn't bother - and when that didn't happen he had to make do with something found there. Luckily, it was easier to find recurve bows there.
* FridgeHorror: It's said that human flesh tastes like pork, hence the euphemism of "long pork" and the trope TheSecretOfLongPorkPies. ''The Odyssey'' may well be one of the earliest instances of recorded recognition of this, since Circe turns Odysseus' crewmates into pigs, in some versions with [[IAmAHumanitarian the intention of eating them]].
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The story of Ares and Aphrodite's love told by Demodocus. It's quite long and irrelevant. Many think this part is an interpolation.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The story of Ares and Aphrodite's love affair told by Demodocus. It's quite long and irrelevant. Many think this part is an interpolation.

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