History YMMV / TheNightmareBeforeChristmas

9th Feb '18 4:57:31 PM MrMediaGuy2
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The limited screentime [[BigBad Oogie]] [[EvilIsCool Boogie]] gets is a common criticism towards the film. It doesn't help that, not counting a brief EarlyBirdCameo during the opening song that had to be confirmed via WordOfGod, he doesn't get properly introduced until halfway through the running time.
19th Nov '17 8:05:32 PM cwf123
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* FriendlyFandoms: With WesternAnimation/HotelTransylvania.
3rd Nov '17 9:28:35 PM Josef5678
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Nightmare is Big In Japan, which explains why Halloween Town is featured throughout the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series.
** There's also a manga adaptation by Jun Asuka.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Nightmare is Big In big in Japan, which explains why Halloween Town is featured throughout the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series.
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series. There's also a manga adaptation by Jun Asuka.



* HoYay: Of all the citizens of HalloweenTown, [[AmbiguouslyGay the Mayor]] appears to be the most worried for Jack when he goes missing -- and it doesn't look like just as a professional and/or as a friend, either. In his defense, there are only 365 more days until NEXT Halloween.[[note]]364![[/note]]
** It helps that his actor, Glenn Shadix, was openly gay.

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* HoYay: Of all the citizens of HalloweenTown, [[AmbiguouslyGay the Mayor]] appears to be the most worried for Jack when he goes missing -- and it doesn't look like just as a professional and/or as a friend, either. In his defense, there are only 365 more days until NEXT Halloween.[[note]]364![[/note]]
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[[note]]364![[/note]] It helps that his actor, Glenn Shadix, was openly gay.



* {{Narm}}: Clever though she may be, it's unfortunate that most of Sally's dialogue is an expository reminder to the audience about the state of the situation, or other obvious thoughts to herself.

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Clever though she may be, it's unfortunate that most of Sally's dialogue is an expository reminder to the audience about the state of the situation, or other obvious thoughts to herself.



* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Averted, mostly. As Halloween Town has made most of its appearances in ''KingdomHearts'', it's been pretty good. As for the [=PS2=] game...decent, but it would have made a better movie sequel than a game.
** ''Oogie's Revenge'' [[WhatCouldHaveBeen WAS going to be a movie sequel]], but Creator/TimBurton convinced Disney otherwise (see CashCowFranchise in the Trivia tab for the reason why). Considering that the sequel was going to be in CGI rather then in StopMotion, that gives you an idea on [[{{Sequelitis}} what the quality of the sequel might have been]].

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Averted, mostly. Averted. As Halloween Town has made most of its appearances in ''KingdomHearts'', ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts'', it's been pretty good. As for the [=PS2=] game...decent, but it would have made a better movie sequel than a game.
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''Oogie's Revenge'' [[WhatCouldHaveBeen WAS was going to be a movie sequel]], but Creator/TimBurton convinced Disney otherwise (see CashCowFranchise in the Trivia tab for the reason why). Considering that the sequel was going to be in CGI rather then than in StopMotion, that gives you an idea on [[{{Sequelitis}} what the quality of the sequel might have been]].



* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The entire movie is absolutely ''gorgeous'', and there are some really creative designs to be admired if you look at the citizens of Halloween. For a stop-motion film, it's very impressive/

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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The entire movie is absolutely ''gorgeous'', and there are some really creative designs to be admired if you look at the citizens of Halloween. For a stop-motion film, it's very impressive/impressive.



* TheWoobie: All those who feel sorry for Henry Selick because he ''never'' gets any credit for this film, raise your hand. While he was a director-for-hire for Burton because he was away filming ''Batman Returns'', he is still responsible for putting it all together. Luckily this seems to have changed a bit after his adaptation of ''WesternAnimation/{{Coraline}}'' was advertised as being from the director of ''Nightmare'', causing some controversy over whether the studio was trying to falsely imply that Burton was involved and bringing a lot of attention to Selick. [[note]]This has had the unfortunate side effect of some people trying to downplay Burton's involvement and claim that it was all Selick, which isn't true. Burton wrote the poem the film was based on, was the one that decided to make it a musical, was heavily involved in the pre-production (contributing concept art, story boards, and co-writing the songs with Danny Elfman- though he declined a lyric credit), and handpicked Selick to direct the film. While it's good that Selick is getting more credit for his involvement, downplaying Burton's involvement ignores how significant Burton was in getting the film made. [[/note]] For the record, [[WordOfGod Selick himself]] acknowledges that the film was Burton's idea and that his job was to bring Burton's vision to life.

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All those who feel sorry for Henry Selick because he ''never'' gets any credit for this film, raise your hand. While he was a director-for-hire for Burton because he was away filming ''Batman Returns'', he is still responsible for putting it all together. Luckily this seems to have changed a bit after his adaptation of ''WesternAnimation/{{Coraline}}'' was advertised as being from the director of ''Nightmare'', causing some controversy over whether the studio was trying to falsely imply that Burton was involved and bringing a lot of attention to Selick. [[note]]This has had the unfortunate side effect of some people trying to downplay Burton's involvement and claim that it was all Selick, which isn't true. Burton wrote the poem the film was based on, was the one that decided to make it a musical, was heavily involved in the pre-production (contributing concept art, story boards, and co-writing the songs with Danny Elfman- though he declined a lyric credit), and handpicked Selick to direct the film. While it's good that Selick is getting more credit for his involvement, downplaying Burton's involvement ignores how significant Burton was in getting the film made. [[/note]] For the record, [[WordOfGod Selick himself]] acknowledges that the film was Burton's idea and that his job was to bring Burton's vision to life.
3rd Nov '17 9:19:47 PM Josef5678
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The scene with the Easter Bunny.
** Arguably it does have a purpose, as it would have been {{Foreshadowing}} had they kept a deleted scene scene near the climax where, [[spoiler: after Jack hears Sally and Santa screaming for help in Oogie Boogie's lair and dons his LetsGetDangerous face, he makes a terrifying face to scare Boogie's boys away and proceeds to rescue them. Even without the deleted scene, it foreshadows Jack getting angry when he learns that the children cause a kidnapped "guest" in Halloween town undue terror and stress]]. The scene also illustrates that [[AntiVillain Jack]] [[BlueAndOrangeMorality may not have qualms about kidnapping other Holiday residents to Halloween Town]], but [[EveryoneHasStandards even he]] draws the line at hurting or frightening them unnecessarily.
31st Oct '17 12:50:32 PM TheLuckyCat
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** "Jack has been blown to smithereens!" Okay, Mayor, we know you're understandably upset, but could you have said that any less hilariously?
28th Oct '17 3:56:12 PM girlyboy
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: You've uncovered a new passion in life and yearn to express this newfound aspect of yourself? Well, think long and hard before you do -- you may be making a terrible mistake. Perhaps you should just stick with what you know, instead.[[labelnote:*]]Although your new source of inspiration ''can'' help you rekindle an old passion if things have been feeling stale lately.[[/labelnote]]
7th Oct '17 10:54:07 PM PrincessGwen
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** [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick Lindsey Ellis]] once described Jack rather unsympathetically (albeit jokingly) as a "well-meaning idiot who uses his position of authority to impose his midlife crisis, willing or no, both onto his polity and of a sovereign foreign nation." Basically, Jack is a ''cultural imperialist!''

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** [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick Lindsey Lindsay Ellis]] once described Jack rather unsympathetically (albeit jokingly) as a "well-meaning idiot who uses his position of authority to impose his midlife crisis, willing or no, both onto his polity and of a sovereign foreign nation." Basically, Jack is a ''cultural imperialist!''
28th Aug '17 11:41:07 AM NWolfman
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** [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick Lindsey Ellis]] once described Jack rather unsympathetically (albeit jokingly) as "a cultural imperialist who uses his position of authority to impose his midlife crisis, willing or no, both onto his polity and of a sovereign foreign nation."

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** [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick Lindsey Ellis]] once described Jack rather unsympathetically (albeit jokingly) as "a cultural imperialist a "well-meaning idiot who uses his position of authority to impose his midlife crisis, willing or no, both onto his polity and of a sovereign foreign nation."" Basically, Jack is a ''cultural imperialist!''
11th Jul '17 7:05:41 AM TheMightyHeptagon
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: For a long time, there was some fan confusion about why Oogie Boogie seems to be alright with torturing and murdering innocent people when the denizens of Halloween Town are explicitly supposed to be an example of DarkIsNotEvil, only existing to ''scare'' people (while drawing the line at actually hurting them). The licensed video game sequel ''VideoGame/TheNightmareBeforeChristmasOogiesRevenge'' explains that Oogie ''isn't'' actually from Halloween Town, but is in fact the exiled representative of a forgotten holiday called "Bug Day"; humankind doesn't remember that "Bug Day" ever existed because it was banned by the other Holidays after they realized Oogie's monstrousness.
16th May '17 2:54:31 PM nombretomado
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** On the first day of October, expect social media (''especially'' {{Tumblr}}) to be flooded with references to this movie. Quoting the opening song (often in full) is very popular.

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** On the first day of October, expect social media (''especially'' {{Tumblr}}) Website/{{Tumblr}}) to be flooded with references to this movie. Quoting the opening song (often in full) is very popular.
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