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** If someone had just forced Sue and Sean to talk to each other about their feelings by now, they both would have learned about the secret behind the snowglobe by now and be together.

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** If someone had just forced Sue and Sean to talk to each other about their feelings by now, they both would have learned about the secret behind the snowglobe snow globe by now and be together.together.
** "Please Don't Feed the Hecks": If Sue had just swallowed her pride and let Lexie call her dad, the Professor refusing to leave the apartment would have been resolved instantly without so much strife and hardship involved.
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** If someone had just forced Sue and Sean to talk to each other about their feelings by now, they both would have learned about the secret behind the snowglobe by now and be together.
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** Season 9 itself practically is this. Toted "The Farewell Season", the writers have been treating it way too much like a regular season with too much of the same usual hijinks and occasionally bringing on old recurring characters for quick send-offs. They could have had big stories like whatever would have happened had SueSean been resolved in only a few episodes or the progression of Lexl's relationship, seeing more of Lexie's parents and seeing Lexie become an AscendedExtra and how she becomes more integrated into Axl's family, spending more time with them. Things are expected to really heat up in the final three episodes with big changes occuring, but you wouldn't know it by how safe the rest of the season has been playing it.

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** Season 9 itself practically is this. Toted "The Farewell Season", the writers have been treating it way too much like a regular season with too much of the same usual hijinks and occasionally bringing on old recurring characters for quick and somewhat unnecessary send-offs. They could have had big stories like whatever would have happened had SueSean [=SueSean=] been resolved in only a few episodes or the progression of Lexl's relationship, seeing more of Lexie's parents and seeing Lexie become an AscendedExtra and how she becomes more integrated into Axl's family, spending more time with them. Things are expected to really heat up in the final three episodes with big changes occuring, but you wouldn't know it by how safe the rest of the season has been playing it.
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** Season 9's SueSean arc has been dragged out to the point that fans are clearly irritated with the annoyingly slow pace the story is moving at. It's understandable that the Lexl story arc took as long as it did because Lexie was still a fairly new character who needed to be developed and her dynamic with Axl also needed the proper build-up before they got together. But Sean has been on since Season 1 and his dynamic with Sue (as well as character development) had already been given a fair amount of time since then and been well established. The writers clearly want to keep the conflict going as long as possible because [[StatusQuoIsGod they need for Sue not to be happy and relieved so soon]] and this would resolve all her problems, but even after the two had their FirstKiss that should have sealed the deal, the uncertainty the two still have on their feelings just teeters on the thinnest of plot details and comes off as sloppy and lazy. While RomanticFalseLead April played her part in the Lexl story well, Aiden didn't even have a purpose because his character comes on a few episodes, has no real stock in the story because no else has anything to really say about their relationship and once he and Sue do end things, nothing is resolved! The storyline seems to have come to a stand still (with only occasional progression) that has proven to be a fairly botched effort on the writers' part.

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** Season 9's SueSean [=SueSean=] arc has been dragged out to the point that fans are clearly irritated with the annoyingly slow pace the story is moving at. It's understandable that the Lexl story arc took as long as it did because Lexie was still a fairly new character who needed to be developed and her dynamic with Axl also needed the proper build-up before they got together. But Sean has been on since Season 1 and his dynamic with Sue (as well as character development) had already been given a fair amount of time since then and been well established. The writers clearly want to keep the conflict going as long as possible because [[StatusQuoIsGod they need for Sue not to be happy and relieved so soon]] and this would resolve all her problems, but even after the two had their FirstKiss that should have sealed the deal, the uncertainty the two still have on their feelings just teeters on the thinnest of plot details and comes off as sloppy and lazy. While RomanticFalseLead April played her part in the Lexl story well, Aiden didn't even have a purpose because his character comes on a few episodes, has no real stock in the story because no else has anything to really say about their relationship and once he and Sue do end things, nothing is resolved! The storyline seems to have come to a stand still (with only occasional progression) that has proven to be a fairly botched effort on the writers' part.

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* ArcFatigue: Season 9's SueSean arc has been dragged out to the point that fans are clearly irritated with the annoyingly slow pace the story is moving at. It's understandable that the Lexl story arc took as long as it did because Lexie was still a fairly new character who needed to be developed and her dynamic with Axl also needed the proper build-up before they got together. But Sean has been on since Season 1 and his dynamic with Sue (as well as character development) had already been given a fair amount of time since then and been well established. The writers clearly want to keep the conflict going as long as possible because [[StatusQuoIsGod they need for Sue not to be happy and relieved so soon]] and this would resolve all her problems, but even after the two had their FirstKiss that should have sealed the deal, the uncertainty the two still have on their feelings just teeters on the thinnest of plot details and comes off as sloppy and lazy. While RomanticFalseLead April played her part in the Lexl story well, Aiden didn't even have a purpose because his character comes on a few episodes, has no real stock in the story because no else has anything to really say about their relationship and once he and Sue do end things, nothing is resolved! The storyline seems to have come to a stand still with only occasional progression

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* ArcFatigue: ArcFatigue:
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Season 9's SueSean arc has been dragged out to the point that fans are clearly irritated with the annoyingly slow pace the story is moving at. It's understandable that the Lexl story arc took as long as it did because Lexie was still a fairly new character who needed to be developed and her dynamic with Axl also needed the proper build-up before they got together. But Sean has been on since Season 1 and his dynamic with Sue (as well as character development) had already been given a fair amount of time since then and been well established. The writers clearly want to keep the conflict going as long as possible because [[StatusQuoIsGod they need for Sue not to be happy and relieved so soon]] and this would resolve all her problems, but even after the two had their FirstKiss that should have sealed the deal, the uncertainty the two still have on their feelings just teeters on the thinnest of plot details and comes off as sloppy and lazy. While RomanticFalseLead April played her part in the Lexl story well, Aiden didn't even have a purpose because his character comes on a few episodes, has no real stock in the story because no else has anything to really say about their relationship and once he and Sue do end things, nothing is resolved! The storyline seems to have come to a stand still with (with only occasional progression) that has proven to be a fairly botched effort on the writers' part.
** Season 9 itself practically is this. Toted "The Farewell Season", the writers have been treating it way too much like a regular season with too much of the same usual hijinks and occasionally bringing on old recurring characters for quick send-offs. They could have had big stories like whatever would have happened had SueSean been resolved in only a few episodes or the
progression of Lexl's relationship, seeing more of Lexie's parents and seeing Lexie become an AscendedExtra and how she becomes more integrated into Axl's family, spending more time with them. Things are expected to really heat up in the final three episodes with big changes occuring, but you wouldn't know it by how safe the rest of the season has been playing it.
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* AssPull: In "Swing and A Miss", Sue's roommate Lexie is trying throughout the episode to get Axl's attention, to no avail as a result of [[ItMakesSenseInContext poofed hair, allergic reaction and skin irritation]] and by the end of the episode, after she's back to normal, Sue lets slip to Axl that Lexie has feelings for him. Axl, clearly reciprocating, goes to the party that Lexie is at (that he said he would definitely not go to) and sees her across the room. Cue Devin, Axl's ex as of the beginning of the previous season, [[DiabolusExMachina running into him just before he can reach Lexie]].

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* AssPull: In "Swing and A Miss", Sue's roommate ArcFatigue: Season 9's SueSean arc has been dragged out to the point that fans are clearly irritated with the annoyingly slow pace the story is moving at. It's understandable that the Lexl story arc took as long as it did because Lexie is trying throughout was still a fairly new character who needed to be developed and her dynamic with Axl also needed the episode to get Axl's attention, to no avail as a result of [[ItMakesSenseInContext poofed hair, allergic reaction proper build-up before they got together. But Sean has been on since Season 1 and skin irritation]] his dynamic with Sue (as well as character development) had already been given a fair amount of time since then and by been well established. The writers clearly want to keep the end of the episode, conflict going as long as possible because [[StatusQuoIsGod they need for Sue not to be happy and relieved so soon]] and this would resolve all her problems, but even after she's back to normal, Sue lets slip to Axl the two had their FirstKiss that Lexie has should have sealed the deal, the uncertainty the two still have on their feelings for him. Axl, clearly reciprocating, goes to the party that Lexie is at (that he said he would definitely not go to) and sees her across the room. Cue Devin, Axl's ex as of the beginning of the previous season, [[DiabolusExMachina running into him just before teeters on the thinnest of plot details and comes off as sloppy and lazy. While RomanticFalseLead April played her part in the Lexl story well, Aiden didn't even have a purpose because his character comes on a few episodes, has no real stock in the story because no else has anything to really say about their relationship and once he can reach Lexie]].and Sue do end things, nothing is resolved! The storyline seems to have come to a stand still with only occasional progression
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** Even ''if'' Brick started a fire because he used the oven, it was ''still'' being used to store ''quilts''. As of the third season ("The Map"), [[RunningGag the oven is still being used to store quilts]].

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** Even ''if'' Brick started a fire because he used the oven, it was ''still'' being used to store ''quilts''. As of the third ninth season ("The Map"), , [[RunningGag the oven is still being used to store quilts]].
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*** In Not So Silent Night when all the family pictures were accidently deleted from the computer he called her out over the fact that she makes such a big deal over every little thing when they couldn’t find the originals. He ended up finding them the very next day

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*** In Not "Not So Silent Night Night" when all the family pictures were accidently accidentally deleted from the computer computer, he called her out over the fact that she makes such a big deal over every little thing when they couldn’t find the originals. He ended up finding them the very next day day.



* {{Padding}}: Quite a bit of it, especially in the later seasons. The whole Disneyworld fiasco could easily have been narrowed down to one episode rather than the two it ended up being as not much happens in the first.

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* {{Padding}}: Quite a bit of it, especially in the later seasons. The whole Disneyworld fiasco could easily have been narrowed down to one episode rather than the two it ended up being as two, given that not much happens in the first.
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** Sue's TransparentCloset friend Brad got sent to a religious camp where he got cured... of his "smoking."

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** Sue's TransparentCloset friend Brad got sent to a religious camp where he got cured... of his "smoking."smoking.
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* CampGay: Sue's boyfriend Brad is about as close to this as you can get in a town like Orson, where he got sent to a religious camp to "cure" him. Mike and Frankie are at first concerned about Sue having a boyfriend, but after 5 seconds of looking at Brad and listening to him talk, realize his orientation, and are no longer worried.

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* CampGay: Sue's boyfriend Brad is about as close to this as you can you'll get in a town like Orson, where he got sent to a religious camp to "cure" him.him[[note]]it was actually for his smoking[[/note]]. Mike and Frankie are at first concerned about Sue having a boyfriend, but after 5 seconds of looking at Brad and listening to him talk, realize his orientation, and are no longer worried.
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* CampGay: Sue's boyfriend Brad is about as close to this as you can get in a town like Orson, where he got sent to a religious camp to "cure" him. Mike and Frankie are at first concerned about Sue having a boyfriend, but after 5 seconds of looking at Brad and listening to him talk, realize his orientation, and are no longer worried.
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* AssPull: In "Swing and A Miss", Sue's roommate Lexie is trying throughout the episode to get Axl's attention, to no avail as a result of [[ItMakesSenseInContext poofed hair, allergic reaction and skin irritation]] and by the end of the episode, after she's back to normal, Sue lets slip to Axl that Lexie has feelings for him. Axl, clearly reciprocating, goes to the party that Lexie is at (that he said he would definitely not go to) and sees her across the room. Cue Devin, Axl's ex as of the beginning of the previous season, [[DiabolusExMachina running into him just before he can reach Lexie]].
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** The episode where Sue goes to college it presents Mike as an incredibly OverprotectiveDad by having her master a ridiculous amount of skill before letting her go. However nothing about Sue up to this point would lead the view to believe that she is ready to live on her own. Even her actions in this episode leave that into question.

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** The episode where Sue goes to college it presents Mike as an incredibly OverprotectiveDad by having her master a ridiculous amount of skill before letting her go. However However, nothing about Sue up to this point would lead the view viewer to believe that she is ready to live on her own. Even her actions in this the episode leave that into question.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Even ''if'' Brick started a fire because he used the oven, it was ''still'' being used to store ''quilts''. As of the third season ("The Map"), [[RunningGag the oven is still being used to store quilts]].

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Even ''if'' Brick started a fire because he used the oven, it was ''still'' being used to store ''quilts''. As of the third season ("The Map"), [[RunningGag the oven is still being used to store quilts]].



* TearJerker: Tons in season 6.
** In episode 5, Axl ends up locked in his college's library on Halloween night. He eventually breaks down and confesses to a bust that he has no idea what he is doing in college or where he is heading in life. Something many young adults in college can relate to.
** In episode 8, Mike is forced to go with Sue on her college tours and encounters another father and daughter pair who are tied at the hip. Mike eventually asks her if he should have been a more affectionate father like the other dad. Sue says no and proceeds to list every reason why he's such a great dad, it's sweet enough to almost bring [[TheStoic Mike]] to tears.
** At the end of the Valentine's Day episode, Darrin asks for Sue's hand in marriage. She originally says yes, but at the end of the next episode Sue realizes that there's still more she wants to do before settling down and breaks off the engagement. Simultaneously ending their relationship.
** The last episode of season 6. Triples as a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and CrowningMomentOfAwesome. After having a terrible final week of school (she loses her yearbook which also had her name wrong, finds out she won't win any school accomplishments, and her graduation cap and gown are the wrong size), Sue is outright forced to attend her graduation by being carried out of the house because she is certain nobody will notice her missing nor will they remember her afterwards. She's completely proven wrong as her yearbook is returned to her by classmates surrounding her, completely filled with the signatures of the entire graduating class thanking her for the little moments and wishing her well.

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* TearJerker: Tons in season 6.
** In episode 5, Axl ends up locked in his college's library on Halloween night. He eventually breaks down and confesses to a bust that he has no idea what he is doing in college or where he is heading in life. Something many young adults in college can relate to.
** In episode 8, Mike is forced to go with Sue on her college tours and encounters another father and daughter pair who are tied at the hip. Mike eventually asks her if he should have been a more affectionate father like the other dad. Sue says no and proceeds to list every reason why he's such a great dad, it's sweet enough to almost bring [[TheStoic Mike]] to tears.
** At the end of the Valentine's Day episode, Darrin asks for Sue's hand in marriage. She originally says yes, but at the end of the next episode Sue realizes that there's still more she wants to do before settling down and breaks off the engagement. Simultaneously ending their relationship.
** The last episode of season 6. Triples as a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and CrowningMomentOfAwesome. After having a terrible final week of school (she loses her yearbook which also had her name wrong, finds out she won't win any school accomplishments, and her graduation cap and gown are the wrong size), Sue is outright forced to attend her graduation by being carried out of the house because she is certain nobody will notice her missing nor will they remember her afterwards. She's completely proven wrong as her yearbook is returned to her by classmates surrounding her, completely filled with the signatures of the entire graduating class thanking her for the little moments and wishing her well.
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*** BothSidesHaveAPoint have a point in this issue as Mike has called Frankie out on both taking everything so seriously as well as expect everything to be fixed in an instant. The Wind Chimes reveals that a lot of problems that she just thought went away was actually solved by him confronting the people who she gets into fights with.
*** In Not So Silent Night when all the family pictures were accidently deleted from the computer he called her out over the fact that she makes such a big deal over every little thing when they couldn’t find the originals. He ended up finding them the very next day

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Sue's TransparentCloset friend Brad got sent to a religious camp where he got cured... of his "smoking."

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Sue's TransparentCloset friend Brad got sent to a religious camp where he got cured... of his "smoking.""
** When Sue and Lexie bully a girl with chronic fatigue syndrome because they thought she was faking it.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Sue's TransparentCloset friend Brad got sent to a religious camp where he got cured....of his "smoking."

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Sue's TransparentCloset friend Brad got sent to a religious camp where he got cured....cured... of his "smoking."
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Often considered this to ''MalcolmInTheMiddle'' due to its similar name, focus on a dysfunctional suburban family, and similar family dynamics to the former series.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: Often considered this to ''MalcolmInTheMiddle'' ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle'' due to its similar name, focus on a dysfunctional suburban family, and similar family dynamics to the former series.
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** The episode where Sue goes to college it presents Mike as an incredibly OverprotectiveDad by having her master a ridiculous amount of skill before letting her go. However nothing about Sue up to this point would lead the view to believe that she is ready to live on her own. Even her actions in this episode leave that into question.
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** Sue’s perpetual quirkiness ranges between sympathetic, funny, to just plain annoying something’s within a single episode.

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** Sue’s perpetual quirkiness ranges between from sympathetic, funny, to just funny to plain annoying something’s - sometimes within a single episode.
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** Despite his many quirks, Brick just comes of as an apathetic {{Jerkass}} sometimes.

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** Despite his many quirks, Brick just comes of off as an apathetic {{Jerkass}} sometimes.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Often considered this to ''MalcolmInTheMiddle'' due to its similar name, focus on a dysfunctional suburban family, and similar family dynamics to the former series.
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* {{Padding}}: Quite a bit of it, especially in the later seasons. The whole Disneyworld fiasco could easily have been narrowed down to one episode rather than the two it ended up being as not much happens in the first.
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** The last episode of season 6. Triples as a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and CrowningMomentOfAwesome. After having a terrible final week of school (she loses her yearbook which also had her name wrong, finds out she won't win any school accomplishments, and her graduation cap and gown are the wrong size), Sue is outright forced to attend her graduation by being carried out of the house because she is certain nobody ever noticed nor will remember her afterwards. She's completely proven wrong as her yearbook is returned to her by classmates surrounding her, completely filled with the signatures of the entire graduating class thanking her for the little moments and wishing her well.

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** The last episode of season 6. Triples as a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and CrowningMomentOfAwesome. After having a terrible final week of school (she loses her yearbook which also had her name wrong, finds out she won't win any school accomplishments, and her graduation cap and gown are the wrong size), Sue is outright forced to attend her graduation by being carried out of the house because she is certain nobody ever noticed will notice her missing nor will they remember her afterwards. She's completely proven wrong as her yearbook is returned to her by classmates surrounding her, completely filled with the signatures of the entire graduating class thanking her for the little moments and wishing her well.

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** At the end of the Valentine's Day episode, Darrin asks for Sue's hand in marriage. She originally says yes, but at the end of the next episode Sue realizes that there's still more she wants to do before settling down and breaks off the engagement. Simultaneously ending their relationship.
** The last episode of season 6. Triples as a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming and CrowningMomentOfAwesome. After having a terrible final week of school (she loses her yearbook which also had her name wrong, finds out she won't win any school accomplishments, and her graduation cap and gown are the wrong size), Sue is outright forced to attend her graduation by being carried out of the house because she is certain nobody ever noticed nor will remember her afterwards. She's completely proven wrong as her yearbook is returned to her by classmates surrounding her, completely filled with the signatures of the entire graduating class thanking her for the little moments and wishing her well.

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* TearJerker: Tons in season 6.
** In episode 5, Axl ends up locked in his college's library on Halloween night. He eventually breaks down and confesses to a bust that he has no idea what he is doing in college or where he is heading in life. Something many young adults in college can relate to.
** In episode 8, Mike is forced to go with Sue on her college tours and encounters another father and daughter pair who are tied at the hip. Mike eventually asks her if he should have been a more affectionate father like the other dad. Sue says no and proceeds to list every reason why he's such a great dad, it's sweet enough to almost bring [[TheStoic Mike]] to tears.
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* HilariousInHindsight: In "The Neighbor", Sue and Carly try to beat the Glossners in a fight after the latter challenges by a dance off, not knowing what a fight really entails. In ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'' the titular Star Butterfly (voiced Eden Sher, who plays Sue) has no such problems in knowing how to fight and can be excessive at times. In fact, the episode "School Spirit", Star had... [[KnightTemplar the exact opposite problem when it came to football]], donning battle armor, thinknig a trophy case is a menorial, and ''mining and laying traps in a football field''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: In "The Neighbor", Sue and Carly try to beat the Glossners in a fight after the latter challenges by a dance off, not knowing what a fight really entails. In ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'' the titular Star Butterfly (voiced by Eden Sher, who plays Sue) has no such problems in knowing how to fight and can be excessive at times. In fact, the episode "School Spirit", Star had... [[KnightTemplar the exact opposite problem when it came to football]], donning battle armor, thinknig thinking a trophy case is a menorial, memorial, and ''mining and laying traps in a football field''.
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** Sue’s perpetual quirkiness ranges between sympathetic, funny, to just plane annoying something’s within a single episode.

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** Sue’s perpetual quirkiness ranges between sympathetic, funny, to just plane plain annoying something’s within a single episode.
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* HilariousInHindsight: In "The Neighbor", Sue and Carly try to beat the Glossners in a fight after the latter challenges by a dance off, not knowing what a fight really entails. In ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'' the titular Star Butterfly (voiced Eden Sher, who plays Sue) has no such problems in knowing how to fight and can be excessive at times. In fact, episode "School Spirit", Star had... [[KnightTemplar the exact opposite problem when it came to football]], donning battle armor, thinknig a trophy case is a menorial, and ''mining and laying traps in a football field''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: In "The Neighbor", Sue and Carly try to beat the Glossners in a fight after the latter challenges by a dance off, not knowing what a fight really entails. In ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'' the titular Star Butterfly (voiced Eden Sher, who plays Sue) has no such problems in knowing how to fight and can be excessive at times. In fact, the episode "School Spirit", Star had... [[KnightTemplar the exact opposite problem when it came to football]], donning battle armor, thinknig a trophy case is a menorial, and ''mining and laying traps in a football field''.
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* HilariousInHindsight: In "The Neighbor", Sue and Carly try to beat the Glossners in a dance by a dance off, not knowing what a fight really entails. In the ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'' the titular Star Butterfly (voiced Eden Sher, who plays Sue) has no such problems in knowing how to fight and can be excessive at times. In fact, episode "School Spirit", Star had... [[KnightTemplar the exact opposite problem when it came to football]], donning battle armor, thinknig a trophy case is a menorial, and ''mining and laying traps in a football field''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: In "The Neighbor", Sue and Carly try to beat the Glossners in a dance fight after the latter challenges by a dance off, not knowing what a fight really entails. In the ''WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil'' the titular Star Butterfly (voiced Eden Sher, who plays Sue) has no such problems in knowing how to fight and can be excessive at times. In fact, episode "School Spirit", Star had... [[KnightTemplar the exact opposite problem when it came to football]], donning battle armor, thinknig a trophy case is a menorial, and ''mining and laying traps in a football field''.

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