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* AwesomeMusic: What has a great beat, [[EarWorm is catchy as all get out]] and [[BilingualBonus teaches a very obscure Swahili phrase to children?]] Why, it's Bunga's CatchPhrase of "Zuka Zama Zom Zom Zom! (Pop up, dive in, go-go-go!)" put to music of course. Check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M14LzedBXsk

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* AwesomeMusic: What has a great beat, [[EarWorm is catchy as all get out]] and [[BilingualBonus teaches a very obscure Swahili phrase to children?]] Why, it's Bunga's CatchPhrase of "Zuka Zama Zom Zom Zom! (Pop up, dive in, go-go-go!)" put to music of course. Check it out here: https://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M14LzedBXskcom/watch?v=M14LzedBXsk here]].

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* ForeShadowing: Among the cave paintings in the Lion Guard's lair, one in particular stands out; Scar appears in the clouds, glaring down at the volcano where the hyenas hide out, possibly hinting at some involvement in their scheme (just as Mufasa does for Kion and his friends).
* SameCharacterButDifferent: Kiara as a cub hated the idea of becoming queen in ''Simba's Pride,'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion. Also, she was shown to be a very poor hunter even as an adult in ''Simba's Pride,'' having to be taught by Kovu, but here she seems to be a pro already as a cub.
** Her fur seems to be several shades lighter than it was in the movie.

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* ForeShadowing: Among the cave paintings in the Lion Guard's lair, one in particular stands out; Scar appears in the clouds, glaring down at the volcano where the hyenas hide out, possibly hinting at some involvement in their scheme (just as Mufasa does for Kion and his friends).
* SameCharacterButDifferent: Kiara as a cub hated the idea of becoming queen in ''Simba's Pride,'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion. Also, she was shown to be a very poor hunter even as an adult in ''Simba's Pride,'' having to be taught by Kovu, but here she seems to be a pro already as a cub.
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cub. Her fur seems to be several shades lighter than it was in the movie.

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* SameCharacterButDifferent: Kiara as a cub hated the idea of becoming queen in ''Simba's Pride,'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion. Also, she was shown to be a very poor hunter even as an adult in ''Simba's Pride,'' having to be taught by Kovu, but here she seems to be a pro already as a cub.Her fur seems to be several shades lighter than it was in the movie.

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* SameCharacterButDifferent: Kiara as a cub hated the idea of becoming queen in ''Simba's Pride,'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion. Also, she was shown to be a very poor hunter even as an adult in ''Simba's Pride,'' having to be taught by Kovu, but here she seems to be a pro already as a cub.Her cub.
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fur seems to be several shades lighter than it was in the movie.

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* CarnivoreConfusion: The three non-carnivores of the team must find it disturbing to see Kion and Fuli having dinner (Bunga gets a pass if he's strictly insectivore like Timon). One can suppose the "Circle of Life" doctrine drives everybody stoic in front of death due to (reasonable) predation. The Hyenas are foes because they're ChaoticEvil, hunting largely for fun and chaos.
** It is also very convenient that no carnivore characters are ever shown feeding on "anybody" in the whole franchise.

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* CarnivoreConfusion: The three non-carnivores of the team must find it disturbing to see Kion and Fuli having dinner (Bunga gets a pass if he's strictly insectivore like Timon). One can suppose the "Circle of Life" doctrine drives everybody stoic in front of death due to (reasonable) predation. The Hyenas are foes because they're ChaoticEvil, hunting largely for fun and chaos.
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chaos. It is also very convenient that no carnivore characters are ever shown feeding on "anybody" in the whole franchise.



* SameCharacterButDifferent: Kiara as a cub hated the idea of becoming queen in ''Simba's Pride,'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion. Also, she was shown to be a very poor hunter even as an adult in ''Simba's Pride,'' having to be taught by Kovu, but here she seems to be a pro already as a cub.
** Her fur seems to be several shades lighter than it was in the movie.

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* SameCharacterButDifferent: Kiara as a cub hated the idea of becoming queen in ''Simba's Pride,'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion. Also, she was shown to be a very poor hunter even as an adult in ''Simba's Pride,'' having to be taught by Kovu, but here she seems to be a pro already as a cub.
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cub.Her fur seems to be several shades lighter than it was in the movie.
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** Her fur seems to be several shades lighter than it was in TLK2.

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** Her fur seems to be several shades lighter than it was in TLK2.the movie.
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** Her fur seems to be several shades lighter than it was in TLK2.
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* SameCharacterButDifferent: Kiara as a cub hated the idea of becoming queen in ''Simba's Pride,'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion.

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* SameCharacterButDifferent: Kiara as a cub hated the idea of becoming queen in ''Simba's Pride,'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion. Also, she was shown to be a very poor hunter even as an adult in ''Simba's Pride,'' having to be taught by Kovu, but here she seems to be a pro already as a cub.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: In the preview, Simba tells Kion [[FantasticRacism that the Lion Guard can only have lion members]], basically rendering the Lion Guard useless just as the hyenas decide to attack the Pridelands. What's Kion's response?
--> [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight So what if we're not all lions? It's up to us to stop them!]]
** Kion's song towards the end, especially the TriumphantReprise he sings after his YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre speech from his grandfather Mufasa.
** And one for the entire, newly-minted Lion Guard during the ending climax, both for coming together and succeeding with driving off the hyenas and for Bunga's quick thinking in scattering the stampeding Gazelles away from an injured Kiara. With his "''fart''"!
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Beshte says the phrase, "Well, pull my tail and call me a meerkat!" Bunga retorts, "My uncle's a meerkat!", to which Beshte says no offense, then after a beat says, "Aren't you a honey badger?"
** Simba says he needs to talk to Kion. Kion assumes it's [[TheTalk THE Talk]] and protests that he's heard it already ("Can you feel the Love tonight?")
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** Simba says he needs to talk to Kion. Kion assumes it's [[TheTalk THE Talk]] and protests that he's heard it already ("Can you feel the Love tonight?")
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* BaseBreaker: Kion gets this treatment for just existing. Many Kopa fans are especially bitter.

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* BaseBreaker: Kion gets this treatment for just existing. Many Kopa fans are especially bitter.bitter, as are Kiara fans who dislike her having TookALevelInJerkass just to make Kion look better.

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** Really, the entire soundtrack as featured in "''Return of the Roar''" is this. It's filled with catchy and upbeat songs and music that beautifully punctuates and accentuates the scenes they play in, many also accompanied by powerful, soulful chanting vocals.



** While most fans are ecstatic that there is a new series (especially as it is not an AllCGICartoon) there are disagreements on Kion. While he could theoretically have been born after the second movie, some fans still wish it were about Kiara's and Kovu's offspring instead.

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** While most fans are ecstatic that there is a new series (especially as it is not an AllCGICartoon) AllCGICartoon, for those who dislike such) there are disagreements on Kion. While he could theoretically have been born after the second movie, some fans still wish it were about Kiara's and Kovu's offspring instead.



* CarnivoreConfusion: The three non-carnivores of the team must find it disturbing to see Kion and Fuli having dinner (Bunga gets a pass if he's strictly insectivore like Timon). One can suppose the "Circle of Life" doctrine drives everybody stoic in front of death due to (reasonable) predation. The Hyenas are foes because they're ChaoticEvil hunting for fun.

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* CarnivoreConfusion: The three non-carnivores of the team must find it disturbing to see Kion and Fuli having dinner (Bunga gets a pass if he's strictly insectivore like Timon). One can suppose the "Circle of Life" doctrine drives everybody stoic in front of death due to (reasonable) predation. The Hyenas are foes because they're ChaoticEvil ChaoticEvil, hunting largely for fun.fun and chaos.



* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Beshte says the phrase, "well, pull my tail and call me a meerkat!" Bunga retorts, "my uncle's a meerkat!", to which Beshte says no offense, then after a beat says, "Aren't you a honey badger?"
* ForeShadowing: Among the cave paintings in the Lion Guard's lair, one in particular stands out; Scar appears in the clouds, glaring down at the volcano where the hyenas hide out, possibly hinting at some involvement in their scheme (just as Mufasa does for Kion and his friends)..

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** Kion's song towards the end, especially the TriumphantReprise he sings after his YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre speech from his grandfather Mufasa.
** And one for the entire, newly-minted Lion Guard during the ending climax, both for coming together and succeeding with driving off the hyenas and for Bunga's quick thinking in scattering the stampeding Gazelles away from an injured Kiara. With his "''fart''"!
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Beshte says the phrase, "well, "Well, pull my tail and call me a meerkat!" Bunga retorts, "my "My uncle's a meerkat!", to which Beshte says no offense, then after a beat says, "Aren't you a honey badger?"
* ForeShadowing: Among the cave paintings in the Lion Guard's lair, one in particular stands out; Scar appears in the clouds, glaring down at the volcano where the hyenas hide out, possibly hinting at some involvement in their scheme (just as Mufasa does for Kion and his friends)..friends).



* ViewerGenderConfusion: Janja is the leader of his clan however he is a male hyena.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Janja is the leader of his clan however clan, however, he is a male hyena.''male'' hyena.
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* Foreshadowing: Among the cave paintings in the Lion Guard's lair, one in particular stands out; Scar appears in the clouds, glaring down at the volcano where the hyenas hide out, possibly hinting at some involvement in their scheme (just as Mufasa does for Kion and his friends)..

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* Foreshadowing: ForeShadowing: Among the cave paintings in the Lion Guard's lair, one in particular stands out; Scar appears in the clouds, glaring down at the volcano where the hyenas hide out, possibly hinting at some involvement in their scheme (just as Mufasa does for Kion and his friends)..
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* Foreshadowing: Among the cave paintings in the Lion Guard's lair, one in particular stands out; Scar appears in the clouds, glaring down at the volcano where the hyenas hide out, possibly hinting at some involvement in their scheme (just as Mufasa does for Kion and his friends)..
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* SameCharacterButDifferent: Kiara cub hated the idea of becoming the queen in ''Simba's Pride'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion.

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* SameCharacterButDifferent: Kiara as a cub hated the idea of becoming the queen in ''Simba's Pride'' Pride,'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion. Kion.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Beshte says the phrase, "well, pull my tail and call me a meerkat!" Bunga retorts, "my uncle's a meerkat!", to which Beshte says no offense, then after a beat says, "Aren't you a honey badger?"
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* SameCharacterButDifferent: Kiara cub hated the idea of becoming the queen in ''Simba's Pride'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion.
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* CharacterDerailment: Kiara cub hated the idea of becoming the queen in ''Simba's Pride'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion.
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* CarnivoreConfusion: The three non-carnivores of the team must find it disturbing to see Kion and Fuli having dinner (Bunga gets a pass if he's strictly insectivore like Timon). One can suppose the "Circle of Life" doctrine drives everybody stoic in front of death due to (reasonable) predation. The Hyenas are foes because they're ChaoticEvil hunting for fun.
**It is also very convenient that no carnivore characters are ever shown feeding on "anybody" in the whole franchise.
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* AwesomeMusic: What has a great beat, [[EarWorm is catchy as all get out]] and [[BilingualBonus teaches a very obscure Swahili phrase to children?]] Why, it's Bunga's CatchPhrase of "Zuka Zuma Zom Zom Zom! (Pop up, dive in, go-go-go!)" put to music of course.

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* AwesomeMusic: What has a great beat, [[EarWorm is catchy as all get out]] and [[BilingualBonus teaches a very obscure Swahili phrase to children?]] Why, it's Bunga's CatchPhrase of "Zuka Zuma Zama Zom Zom Zom! (Pop up, dive in, go-go-go!)" put to music of course.course. Check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M14LzedBXsk
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* AwesomeMusic: What has a great beat, [[EarWorm is catchy as all get out]] and [[BilingualBonus teaches a very obscure Swahili phrase to children?]] Why, it's Bunga's CatchPhrase of "Zuka Zuma Zom Zom Zom! (Pop up, dive in, go-go-go!)" put to music of course.

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** The reveal that this isn't even a ''sequel'' strictly speaking put many fans on the edge. The fact Kion and Kiara are both cubs makes it a very noticeable {{retcon}}, raising lots of questions about the coherence with ''Simba's pride'' events. Fans were expecting Kiara to be at least his teenage sister, in a storyline set after the reunification of the prides, and lots of fanarts featured this idea.
** The whole concept of a "Lion Guard" and especially Kion's roaring powers make a lot of fans groan. The series was never 100% accurate about the african wildlife, putting a bit of mysticism with Rafiki shamanism and Mufasa's ghost as well as some DisneyAcidSequence, but this is glaringly less realistic than any other aspects.

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** The reveal that this isn't even a ''sequel'' strictly speaking put many fans on the edge. The fact Kion and Kiara are both cubs makes it a very noticeable {{retcon}}, raising lots of questions about the coherence with ''Simba's pride'' Pride'' events. Fans were expecting Kiara to be at least his teenage sister, in a storyline set after the reunification of the prides, and lots of fanarts featured this idea.
** The whole concept of a "Lion Guard" and especially Kion's roaring powers make a lot of fans groan. The series was never 100% accurate about the african African wildlife, putting a bit of mysticism with Rafiki Rafiki's shamanism and Mufasa's ghost as well as some DisneyAcidSequence, but this is glaringly less realistic than any other aspects.aspects.
* CharacterDerailment: Kiara cub hated the idea of becoming the queen in ''Simba's Pride'' but here she's beyond pleased with the idea and lords it over Kion.
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** While most fans are ecstatic that there is a new series (especially as it is not an AllCGICartoon) there are disagreements on Kion. While he could theoretically have been born after the second movie, some fans still wish he was Kiara's and Kovu's cub instead.
** This being in canon with ''Disney/TheLionKingII'' unnerves some fans, either because they [[FanonDiscontinuity don't like]] the movie being canon or they don't like Kiara having a previously unmentioned brother. People would have preferred if they ignored the film and simply made Kion the cub from the first film, much like the sequel movie ignored Kopa.
** The reveal that this isn't a ''sequel'' put many fans on the edge. Kion and Kiara are both cubs, it's a very noticeable {{retcon}}. Fans were hoping Kiara was his teenage sister.
** The whole concept of a "Lion Guard" and especially Kion's roaring powers make a lot of fans groan. The series was never 100% accurate but this is glaringly less realistic than other aspects.

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** While most fans are ecstatic that there is a new series (especially as it is not an AllCGICartoon) there are disagreements on Kion. While he could theoretically have been born after the second movie, some fans still wish he was it were about Kiara's and Kovu's cub offspring instead.
** This being in canon with ''Disney/TheLionKingII'' unnerves some fans, either because they [[FanonDiscontinuity don't like]] the movie being canon or because they don't like the idea of Kiara having [[RemembertheNewGuy all of a sudden]] a previously unmentioned brother. People would have preferred if they ignored the film and simply made Kion the formerly unidentified cub from the end scene of the first film, much like the sequel movie ignored Kopa.
** The reveal that this isn't even a ''sequel'' strictly speaking put many fans on the edge. The fact Kion and Kiara are both cubs, it's cubs makes it a very noticeable {{retcon}}. {{retcon}}, raising lots of questions about the coherence with ''Simba's pride'' events. Fans were hoping expecting Kiara was to be at least his teenage sister.
sister, in a storyline set after the reunification of the prides, and lots of fanarts featured this idea.
** The whole concept of a "Lion Guard" and especially Kion's roaring powers make a lot of fans groan. The series was never 100% accurate about the african wildlife, putting a bit of mysticism with Rafiki shamanism and Mufasa's ghost as well as some DisneyAcidSequence, but this is glaringly less realistic than any other aspects.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The overarching theme of the series has been stated to be "diversity should be encouraged and appreciated".
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** The whole concept of a "Lion Guard" and especially Kion's roaring powers make a lot of fans groan.

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** The whole concept of a "Lion Guard" and especially Kion's roaring powers make a lot of fans groan. The series was never 100% accurate but this is glaringly less realistic than other aspects.
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* ToyShip: Fuli and Kion are popular.

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** The reveal that this isn't a ''sequel'' put many fans on the edge. Kion and Kiara are both cubs, it's a very noticeable {{retcon}}. Fans were hoping Kiara was his teenage sister.
** The whole concept of a "Lion Guard" and especially Kion's roaring powers make a lot of fans groan.
* CounterpartComparison: People have been comparing Kion's mark to a [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Cutie Mark]].



* ViewerGenderConfusion: Janja's voice resembles Shenzi's and he is the leader of his clan however he is a male hyena.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Janja's voice resembles Shenzi's and he Janja is the leader of his clan however he is a male hyena.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: In the preview, Simba tells Kion [[FantasticRacism that the Lion Guard can only have lion members]], basically rendering the Lion Guard useless just as the hyenas decide to attack the Pridelands. What's Kion's response?
--> [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight So what if we're not all lions? It's up to us to stop them!]]
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* BaseBreaker: Kion gets this treatment for just existing. Many Kopa fans are especially bitter.
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** This being in canon with ''Disney/TheLionKingII'' unnerves some fans, either because they [[FanonDiscontinuity don't like]] the movie being canon or they don't like Kiara having a previously unmentioned brother. People would have preferred if they ignored the film and simply made Kion the cub from the first film, much like the sequel movie ignored Kopa.

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** This being in canon with ''Disney/TheLionKingII'' unnerves some fans, either because they [[FanonDiscontinuity don't like]] the movie being canon or they don't like Kiara having a previously unmentioned brother. People would have preferred if they ignored the film and simply made Kion the cub from the first film, much like the sequel movie ignored Kopa.Kopa.
* ViewerGenderConfusion: Janja's voice resembles Shenzi's and he is the leader of his clan however he is a male hyena.
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* BrokenBase:
** While most fans are ecstatic that there is a new series (especially as it is not an AllCGICartoon) there are disagreements on Kion. While he could theoretically have been born after the second movie, some fans still wish he was Kiara's and Kovu's cub instead.
** This being in canon with ''Disney/TheLionKingII'' unnerves some fans, either because they [[FanonDiscontinuity don't like]] the movie being canon or they don't like Kiara having a previously unmentioned brother. People would have preferred if they ignored the film and simply made Kion the cub from the first film, much like the sequel movie ignored Kopa.

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