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They\'re not unfortunate implications if they\'re entirely deliberate


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** In the season 2 pilot, "Unreal City", the power plant workers are plucking off valuables, eyeglasses and wallets from the dead bodies. This is of course sheer pragmatism, but it is rather reminiscent of death camps in World War II.
** And when Amy Granderson is faced with the final and complete collapse of her empire (her "grand social experiment" as Chandler puts it) in Baltimore, she commits suicide rather than face the consequences of defeat, rather like a certain [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler other individual]] who believed in going down with a doomed empire.
** [[MadDoctor Niels Sorenson conducts "experiments"]] with the weaponized virus aimed at children.
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** The second season finale's climactic scene where ''Nathan James''' crew goes around touching the people of St. Louis to spread the contagious cure is shot in dramatic slow motion with swelling uplifting music to set the mood. It's a little bit much but then it's taken over the top when Chandler sees two boys saluting him before he kneels down and cups their cheeks with a sage look on his face.
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* SpiritualLicensee: Possible similarity with SpaceBattleshipYamato (military ship saving the human race) and [[NintendoWars Days Of Ruin]] (last surviving military fighting against AfterTheEnd warlords).

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* SpiritualLicensee: Possible similarity with SpaceBattleshipYamato (military ship saving the human race) and [[NintendoWars ''[[VideoGame/NintendoWars Days Of Ruin]] Ruin]]'' (last surviving military fighting against AfterTheEnd warlords).
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** Judging from the exterior shot, the Spearfish detonated about 80 yards off the port side, so the damage makes more sense. Had it detonated below the ''Nathan James'''s keel (the preferred way to kill a surface ship with a torpedo), the blast and resulting water hammer would've broken her back.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Mrs. Granderson crossed hers long before ''Nathan James'' arrived in Baltimore, although she justifies it by claiming it was something she had to do because the majority of humanity crossed the line first.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Mrs. Granderson crossed hers long before ''Nathan James'' arrived in Baltimore, although she justifies it by claiming it was something she had to do because the majority of humanity crossed the line first.first ([[UnreliableNarrator according to her, anyway]]).
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* IdiotBall: Why Jeter would tell his family on an open channel NOT to come to a place the ''Nathan James'' is going to anchor at is not explained, but it serves mainly to stretch the episode out to the requisite ~1 hour.

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* IdiotPlot: The "El Toro" arc. If Chandler hadn't been so cagey he would probably have realized that El Toro, like any druglord, only cares about getting people shooed off the grounds as fast as possible and if what they want/need isn't too exorbitant, he'll gladly give it up as the price for just being left alone to keep his subject people in misery.

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* IdiotPlot: The "El Toro" arc. If Chandler hadn't been so cagey he would probably have realized that El Toro, like any druglord, drug lord, only cares about getting people shooed off the grounds as fast as possible and if what they want/need isn't too exorbitant, he'll gladly give it up as the price for just being left alone to keep his subject people in misery.



* LesYay: "Cry Havoc" featured some scenes hinting at a possible attraction between Val and Granderson.



** Some reviewers are saying that the romance and the characters were RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap with the reveal that Kara is [[spoiler: pregnant]], saying that the development, if handled correctly, adds an element of emotional heft to future arcs for Danny and Kara that the original, hackneyed, ForbiddenRomance didn't have.

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** Some reviewers are saying that the romance and the characters were RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap with the reveal that Kara is [[spoiler: pregnant]], [[spoiler:pregnant]], saying that the development, if handled correctly, adds an element of emotional heft to future arcs for Danny and Kara that the original, hackneyed, ForbiddenRomance didn't have.



** Chandler, of all people, is starting to get his own Scrappydom after [[spoiler:his condemnation of Rachel's murder of Niels]]. The reasons are myriad: besides his looking sanctimonious (not to mention like a bit of an idiot[[note]]His claim of dumping Rachel with civilian authorities is particularly grating, considering what they found in Baltimore[[/note]]) about it, fans are displeased over the fact that he had already given Mitchener a free pass for his transgressions (even vowing to keep them secret) and was willing to give Flea (one of the redneck bounty hunters they captured from the prior episode) a pass as well, yet is treating Rachel as a full criminal in spite of their history together and all she has done. His reasons for keeping Niels alive (a la using him against the Ramsays' propaganda campaign) are also considered weak at best.

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** Chandler, of all people, is starting to get his own Scrappydom after [[spoiler:his condemnation of Rachel's murder of Niels]]. The reasons are myriad: besides his looking sanctimonious (not to mention like a bit of an idiot[[note]]His claim of dumping Rachel with civilian authorities is particularly grating, considering what they found in Baltimore[[/note]]) about it, fans are displeased over the fact that he had already given Mitchener Michener a free pass for his transgressions (even vowing to keep them secret) and was willing to give Flea (one of the redneck bounty hunters they captured from the prior episode) a pass as well, yet is treating Rachel as a full criminal in spite of their history together and all she has done. His reasons for keeping Niels alive (a la using him against the Ramsays' propaganda campaign) are also considered weak at best.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The Season 1 finale revealing Granderson as a villain with an army of militarized police aired around the same time that the riots in Ferguson and the criticism of the Police's militarization came to a head. Season 2 seems to be making this worse with Granderson's army of CorruptCops shaping up to be the season's main enemies just as more and more instances of unchecked police authority are being reported in the media. Additionally, the growth of a quasi-fascist cult based on the notion of the naturally immune being "chosen" is clearly based on real-world right-wing movements that hold up their members as some sort of "chosen" group, and season 2 episode 8 adds vaccine paranoia to the list, with them broadcasting propaganda claiming that ''Nathan James'' is distributing a false cure.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical:
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The Season 1 finale revealing Granderson as a villain with an army of militarized police aired around the same time that the riots in Ferguson and the criticism of the Police's militarization came to a head. Season 2 seems to be making makes this worse with Granderson's army of CorruptCops shaping up to be the season's main enemies just as more and more instances of unchecked police authority are being reported in the media. Additionally, the media.
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growth of a quasi-fascist cult based on the notion of the naturally immune being "chosen" is clearly based on real-world right-wing movements that hold up their members as some sort of "chosen" group, and season 2 episode 8 adds vaccine paranoia to the list, with them broadcasting propaganda claiming that ''Nathan James'' is distributing a false cure.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Sometimes during great hardships, you have to keep a terrible secret. This is doubly true if it relates to national security.
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** Chandler, of all people, is starting to get his own Scrappydom after [[spoiler:his condemnation of Rachel's murder of Niels]]. The reasons are myriad: besides his looking sanctimonious (not to mention like a bit of an idiot[[note]]His claim of dumping Rachel with civilian authorities is particularly grating, considering what they found in Baltimore[[/note]]) about it, fans are displeased over the fact that he had already given Mitchener a free pass for his transgressions (even vowing to keep them secret) and was willing to give Flea (one of the redneck bounty hunters they captured from the prior episode) a pass as well, yet is treating Rachel as a full criminal in spite of their history together and all she has done. His reasons for keeping Niels alive (a la using him against the Ramsays' propaganda campaign) is also considered weak at best.

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** Chandler, of all people, is starting to get his own Scrappydom after [[spoiler:his condemnation of Rachel's murder of Niels]]. The reasons are myriad: besides his looking sanctimonious (not to mention like a bit of an idiot[[note]]His claim of dumping Rachel with civilian authorities is particularly grating, considering what they found in Baltimore[[/note]]) about it, fans are displeased over the fact that he had already given Mitchener a free pass for his transgressions (even vowing to keep them secret) and was willing to give Flea (one of the redneck bounty hunters they captured from the prior episode) a pass as well, yet is treating Rachel as a full criminal in spite of their history together and all she has done. His reasons for keeping Niels alive (a la using him against the Ramsays' propaganda campaign) is are also considered weak at best.

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** Chandler, of all people, is starting to get his own Scrappydom after [[spoiler:his condemnation of Rachel's murder of Niels]]. The reasons are myriad: besides his looking sanctimonious (not to mention like a bit of an idiot[[note]]His claim of dumping Rachel with civilian authorities is particularly grating, considering what they found in Baltimore[[/note]]) about it, fans are displeased over the fact that he had already given Mitchener a free pass for his transgressions (even vowing to keep it a secret) and was willing to give Flea (one of the redneck bounty hunters they captured from the prior episode) a pass as well, yet is treating Rachel as a full criminal in spite of their history together and all she has done.

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** Chandler, of all people, is starting to get his own Scrappydom after [[spoiler:his condemnation of Rachel's murder of Niels]]. The reasons are myriad: besides his looking sanctimonious (not to mention like a bit of an idiot[[note]]His claim of dumping Rachel with civilian authorities is particularly grating, considering what they found in Baltimore[[/note]]) about it, fans are displeased over the fact that he had already given Mitchener a free pass for his transgressions (even vowing to keep it a them secret) and was willing to give Flea (one of the redneck bounty hunters they captured from the prior episode) a pass as well, yet is treating Rachel as a full criminal in spite of their history together and all she has done.done. His reasons for keeping Niels alive (a la using him against the Ramsays' propaganda campaign) is also considered weak at best.
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* PlotArmor: Despite being hit by a Spearfish heavy torpedo on her port side, the worst the ''Nathan James'' suffered was losing her sonar. In reality, she would have taken far more damage (namely a hull breach).
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** Chandler, of all people, is starting to get his own Scrappydom after [[spoiler:his condemnation of Rachel's murder of Niels]]. The reasons are myriad: besides his looking sanctimonious (not to mention like a bit of an idiot[[note]]His claim of dumping Rachel with civilian authorities is particularly grating, considering what they found in Baltimore[[/note]]) about it, fans are displeased over the fact that he had already given Mitchener a free pass for his transgressions (even vowing to keep it a secret) and was willing to give Flea (one of the redneck bounty hunters they captured from the prior episode) a pass as well, yet is treating Rachel as a full criminal in spite of their history together and all she has done.
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* InternetBackdraft: The fanbase's take on "Friendly Fire" has not been pleasant to say the least.
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** [[Mad Doctor Niels Sorenson conducts "experiments"]] with the weaponized virus aimed at children.

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** [[Mad Doctor [[MadDoctor Niels Sorenson conducts "experiments"]] with the weaponized virus aimed at children.
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** Niels Sorenson conducts "experiments" with the weaponized virus aimed at children.

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** [[Mad Doctor Niels Sorenson conducts "experiments" "experiments"]] with the weaponized virus aimed at children.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The Season 1 finale revealing Granderson as a villain with an army of militarized police aired around the same time that the riots in Ferguson and the criticism of the Police's militarization came to a head. Season 2 seems to be making this worse with Granderson's army of CorruptCops shaping up to be the season's main enemies just as more and more instances of unchecked police authority are being reported in the media. Additionally, the growth of a quasi-fascist cult based on the notion of the naturally immune being "chosen" is clearly based on real-world right-wing movements that hold up their members as some sort of "chosen" group.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The Season 1 finale revealing Granderson as a villain with an army of militarized police aired around the same time that the riots in Ferguson and the criticism of the Police's militarization came to a head. Season 2 seems to be making this worse with Granderson's army of CorruptCops shaping up to be the season's main enemies just as more and more instances of unchecked police authority are being reported in the media. Additionally, the growth of a quasi-fascist cult based on the notion of the naturally immune being "chosen" is clearly based on real-world right-wing movements that hold up their members as some sort of "chosen" group.group, and season 2 episode 8 adds vaccine paranoia to the list, with them broadcasting propaganda claiming that ''Nathan James'' is distributing a false cure.
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*** He manages to take ''several steps further'' by coming up with a plan to spread the virus through infected teddy bears that were intended to be given to young children.
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** Niels Sorenson conducts "experiments" with the weaponized virus aimed at children.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Danny and Kara didn't gain many fans due to their cliched ForbiddenRomance in early episodes threatening to become a RomanticPlotTumor. But then the writers pulled the focus away from their romantic plot and and focused on them doing their jobs, allowing the characters to develop as individuals instead and leading to them being better received by the audience. The relationship is ongoing, but is reduced down to the occasional mention that doesn't detract from the main plot.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The Season 1 finale revealing Granderson as a villain with an army of militarized police aired around the same time that the riots in Ferguson and the criticism of the Police's militarization came to a head. Season 2 seems to be making this worse with Granderson's army of CorruptCops shaping up to be the season's main enemies just as more and more instances of unchecked police authority are being reported in the media.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The Season 1 finale revealing Granderson as a villain with an army of militarized police aired around the same time that the riots in Ferguson and the criticism of the Police's militarization came to a head. Season 2 seems to be making this worse with Granderson's army of CorruptCops shaping up to be the season's main enemies just as more and more instances of unchecked police authority are being reported in the media. Additionally, the growth of a quasi-fascist cult based on the notion of the naturally immune being "chosen" is clearly based on real-world right-wing movements that hold up their members as some sort of "chosen" group.
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** This has pretty much dispelled by the second season, as both characters have proven to be functional crew members of the ''Nathan James'' while (outside of Danny's spiel in episode three) exhibiting none of the baggage that comes with forbidden romances.
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** Niels Sorensen finally crosses it when he [[spoiler:gives Sean Ramsey the classified locations of the labs where the cure is being manufactured.]]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even though he was a recurring guest character in the first season, Tex proved to be such a dynamic character that he ended up becoming more prominent than some of the main characters.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even though he was a recurring guest character in the first season, Tex proved Tex, with his cheerful attitude and casual disregard for protocol, turned out to be such a dynamic character that he ended up becoming immediately became more prominent than that some of main characters before being promoted to the main characters.cast in Season 2.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Partially. A lot of people agreed with Granderson's measures, namely euthanizing those infected by the plague (keep in mind its 100% kill rate) with a painless and instant cocktail, burning the bodies (which is standard for dealing with diseased corpses) and overall attempting to rebuild society following TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. That being said, her main issue, [[spoiler:besides being power hungry and tyrannical]], is that she acted as a Social Darwinist; rather than taking in anyone not sick (itself an impractical measure given that there would have been a real need for manpower), she selected and chose based on what she deemed useful while turning away those that couldn't match her criteria. And then there was her [[spoiler:attempt to keep the cure for herself and her select few rather than shutdown Olympia and distribute it the moment she learned of its existence]].

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Partially. A lot of people agreed with Granderson's measures, namely euthanizing those infected by the plague (keep in mind its 100% kill rate) with a painless and instant cocktail, burning the bodies (which is standard for dealing with diseased corpses) and overall attempting to rebuild society following TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. That being said, her main issue, [[spoiler:besides being power hungry and tyrannical]], is that she acted as a Social Darwinist; rather than taking in anyone not sick (itself an impractical measure given that there would have been a real need for manpower), sick, she selected and chose based on what she deemed useful while turning away those that couldn't match her criteria.criteria (itself an impractical measure given that there would have been a real need for manpower). And then there was her [[spoiler:attempt to keep the cure for herself and her select few rather than shutdown Olympia and distribute it the moment she learned of its existence]].

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Partially. A lot of people agreed with Granderson's measures, namely euthanizing those infected by the plague (keep in mind its 100% kill rate) with a painless and instant cocktail, burning the bodies (which is standard for dealing with diseased corpses) and overall attempting to rebuild society following TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. That being said, her main issue, besides [[spoiler:besides being power hungry and tyrannical]], is that she acted as a Social Darwinist; rather than taking in anyone not sick (itself an impractical measure given that there would have been a real need for manpower), she selected and chose based on what she deemed as "usefulness" while turning away those that couldn't match her criteria. And then there was her [[spoiler:attempt to keep the cure for herself and her select few rather than shutdown Olympia and distribute it the moment she learned of its existence]].

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Partially. A lot of people agreed with Granderson's measures, namely euthanizing those infected by the plague (keep in mind its 100% kill rate) with a painless and instant cocktail, burning the bodies (which is standard for dealing with diseased corpses) and overall attempting to rebuild society following TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. That being said, her main issue, besides [[spoiler:besides being power hungry and tyrannical]], is that she acted as a Social Darwinist; rather than taking in anyone not sick (itself an impractical measure given that there would have been a real need for manpower), she selected and chose based on what she deemed as "usefulness" useful while turning away those that couldn't match her criteria. And then there was her [[spoiler:attempt to keep the cure for herself and her select few rather than shutdown Olympia and distribute it the moment she learned of its existence]].
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Partially. A lot of people agreed with Granderson's measures, namely euthanizing those infected by the plague (keep in mind its 100% kill rate) with a painless and instant cocktail, burning the bodies (which is standard for dealing with diseased corpses) and overall attempting to rebuild society following TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. That being said, her main issue, besides [[spoiler:besides being power hungry and tyrannical]], is that she acted as a Social Darwinist; rather than taking in anyone not sick (itself an impractical measure given that there would have been a real need for manpower), she selected and chose based on what she deemed as "usefulness" while turning away those that couldn't match her criteria. And then there was her [[spoiler:attempt to keep the cure for herself and her select few rather than shutdown Olympia and distribute it the moment she learned of its existence]].

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The fact that the Russian rebel's choppers are CGI is very obvious, what.s worse is that they are American military choppers.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The fact that the Russian rebel's choppers are CGI is very obvious, what.s what's worse is that they are American military choppers.choppers.
** To be fair, it's later stated that they were taken from NATO bases abandoned due to the virus.

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* UnfortunateImplications: In the season 2 pilot, "Unreal City", the power plant workers are plucking off valuables, eyeglasses and wallets from the dead bodies. This is of course sheer pragmatism, but it is rather reminiscent of death camps in World War II.

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In the season 2 pilot, "Unreal City", the power plant workers are plucking off valuables, eyeglasses and wallets from the dead bodies. This is of course sheer pragmatism, but it is rather reminiscent of death camps in World War II.II.
** And when Amy Granderson is faced with the final and complete collapse of her empire (her "grand social experiment" as Chandler puts it) in Baltimore, she commits suicide rather than face the consequences of defeat, rather like a certain [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler other individual]] who believed in going down with a doomed empire.
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* UnfortunateImplications: In the season 2 pilot, "Unreal City", the power plant workers are plucking off valuables, eyeglasses and wallets from the dead bodies. This is of course sheer pragmatism, but it is rather reminiscent of death camps in World War II.

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