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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Weirdly, despite borrowing the setting of ArabianNightsDays, and taking place in a world where it's already been established that magic is perfectly real, none of the magical elements from Literature/ArabianNights are ever mentioned once (except for a superstitious belief in some ghouls which never actually appear). Why not throw in a MagicCarpet, GenieInABottle, RocBirds or any of the rest?
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* SignatureScene: Shasta sleeping besides the huge, gloomy shapes of the Tombs of the Old Emperors. While not supremely important to the plot, it's almost always on the cover of the book, and makes a big visual impression.

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* SignatureScene: Shasta sleeping besides beside the huge, gloomy shapes of the Tombs of the Old Emperors. While not supremely important to the plot, it's almost always on the cover of the book, and makes a big visual impression.



** Calormen does call on some Middle Eastern stereotypes - as it's a FantasyCounterpartCulture of ArabianNightsDays. While there are good characters like Aravis and Lasaraleen to balance it out, it's clear the book is from a time when such stereotypes were common.

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** Calormen does call on some Middle Eastern stereotypes - -- as it's a FantasyCounterpartCulture of ArabianNightsDays. While there are good characters like Aravis and Lasaraleen to balance it out, it's clear the book is from a time when such stereotypes were common.



-->''For this is what it means to be a king: to be first in every desperate attack and last in every desperate retreat, and when there's hunger in the land (and must be now and then in bad years) to wear finer clothes and laugh louder over a scantier meal than any man in your land.''

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-->''For this is what it means to be a king: to be first in every desperate attack and last in every desperate retreat, and when there's hunger in the land (and (as must be now and then in bad years) to wear finer clothes and laugh louder over a scantier meal than any man in your land.''
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* {{Fanon}}: Given that the books never explain where Lord Peridan and the other human Narnians came from, a popular idea is that they're descendants of Narnian exiles who fled to Archenland during Jadis' reign.
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* HardToAdaptWork: Among all the many adaptations of ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', this is the volume that’s been attempted the least. No doubt that has a lot to do with the fact that two of the main protagonists are talking horses, which tend to look like Series/MisterEd at very best on stage and screen. (It ''has'' been done as an audio play, which eliminates the need for SpecialEffectFailure.)
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%% * GettingCrapPastThe Radar: Due to overwhelming and persistent misuse, GCPTR is on-page examples only until 01 June 2021. If you are reading this in the future, please check the trope page to make sure your example fits the current definition.
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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences. Or that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture as the villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.

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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences. Or that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture as the villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.
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* CatharsisFactor: Given what a RoyalBrat Rabadash was, [[spoiler:his complete and utter HumiliationConga at the end of the book, that continues for the rest of his life and even serves as his legacy,]] is as satisfying as it is [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments hilarious.]]
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There is no indication at all that Aravis has any such knowledge


** Despite Aravis being knowledgeable in weapons and fighting, the plot finds a way to keep her out of the battle towards the end.
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Nothing like that is implied


** Despite Aravis being knowledgeable in weapons and fighting, the plot finds a way to keep her out of the battle towards the end. Even Lucy is implied to be in the battle only because no one has the rank to overrule her.

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** Despite Aravis being knowledgeable in weapons and fighting, the plot finds a way to keep her out of the battle towards the end. Even Lucy is implied to be in the battle only because no one has the rank to overrule her.
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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Alternatively, readers who enjoy the book argue Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that their only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences. Or that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture isn't treated ''entirely'' unsympathetically, and that Lewis's intent was to show off the parts he liked as much as the parts he didn't.villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.

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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Alternatively, readers who enjoy the book argue Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that their only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences. Or that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture isn't treated ''entirely'' unsympathetically, and that Lewis's intent was to show off the parts he liked as much as the parts he didn't.villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.
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There is nothing unfortunate in basing a fictional peoples on real peoples just because they happen to be non-white.


* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that their culture is presented with ''some'' nuance and only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences.

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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Alternatively, readers who enjoy the book argue Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that their culture is presented with ''some'' nuance and only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences.audiences. Or that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture isn't treated ''entirely'' unsympathetically, and that Lewis's intent was to show off the parts he liked as much as the parts he didn't.villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.
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At the very least, I will argue that trying to claim that Lewis was justified in making the major Middle Eastern representative a brutally authoritarian slave-owning empire is a mine I'd prefer to defuse.


* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences. Or that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture as the villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.

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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that their culture is presented with ''some'' nuance and only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences. Or that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture as the villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.audiences.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Lampshaded -- Shasta learns in a single evening that the old fisherman who raised him is not his father ''and'' that the same man plans to sell him as a slave. Since he never loved the man and his life is basically slavery already, he's not too distressed. But when the visitor's ''horse'' speaks up and tells him to run away, they run.

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* AngstWhatAngst: Lampshaded -- Shasta learns in a single evening that the old fisherman who raised him is not his father ''and'' that the same man plans to sell him as a slave.slave to a visiting Tarkaan. Since he never loved the man and his life is basically slavery already, he's not too distressed. But when the visitor's ''horse'' speaks up and tells him to run away, they run.
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The argument that Calormen being based on Middle Eastern civilizations is somehow xenophobic would only make sense if there was not plenty of real lif examples of countries on which Calorment could be based.


* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Alternatively, readers who enjoy the book argue that their culture isn't treated ''entirely'' unsympathetically, and that Lewis's intent was to show off the parts he liked as much as the parts he didn't.

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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Alternatively, readers who enjoy the book argue Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that their only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences. Or that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture isn't treated ''entirely'' unsympathetically, and that Lewis's intent was to show off the parts he liked as much as the parts he didn't.villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.
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...I mean, there were a lotta warlike and slaveowning Christian empires in the same period, what's your point? And I speak as a Christian who enjoys the book.


* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture as the villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.

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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist, as some have claimed racist -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out Alternatively, readers who enjoy the book argue that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern their culture isn't treated ''entirely'' unsympathetically, and that Lewis's intent was to show off the parts he liked as much as the villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.parts he didn't.
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No need to change anything


* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences. Or that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture as the villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.

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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences. Or that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture as the villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.
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There is nothing unfortunate here.


* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences.

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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences. Or that there is nothing unfortunate in portraying a Middle Eastern culture as the villains, as there have been plenty of warlike and slave-owning Middle East Empires in real life.
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* FairForItsDay: This book is slightly more feminist in terms of the women fighting than ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'''s infamous "battles are ugly when women fight". Aravis is at least familiar with weapons and it's illustrated that she could fight in battle if needed -- not to mention keeping her head at a difficult situation in Tashbaan. Likewise Lucy is said to lead the archers in battle.

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* FairForItsDay: This book is slightly more feminist in terms of the women fighting than ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'''s infamous "battles are ugly when women fight". Aravis is at least familiar with weapons and it's illustrated that she could fight in battle if needed -- not to mention keeping her head at a difficult situation in Tashbaan. Likewise Lucy And Queen Lucy, whom Corin calls "as good as a man, or at least as good as a boy" is said to lead in the archers in battle.Battle of Anvard.



** Despite Aravis being knowledgeable in weapons and fighting, the plot finds a way to keep her out of the battle towards the end.

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** Despite Aravis being knowledgeable in weapons and fighting, the plot finds a way to keep her out of the battle towards the end. Even Lucy is implied to be in the battle only because no one has the rank to overrule her.
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* SignatureScene: Shasta sleeping besides the huge, gloomy shapes of the Tombs of the Old Emperors. While not supremely important to the plot, it's almost always on the cover of the book, and makes a big visual impression.
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Tarkaan Anradin, in his negotiations to buy Shasta, describes him as "fair and white like the accursed but beautiful barbarians who inhabit the remote north." Given that Shasta is no more than 14, and also given that the Calormene lord already has plenty of slaves for manual labor, there may be [[{{Ephebophile}} very good reason]] Bree tells Shasta becoming Anradin's slave is a FateWorseThanDeath.

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%% * GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Tarkaan Anradin, in his negotiations GettingCrapPastThe Radar: Due to buy Shasta, describes him as "fair overwhelming and white like persistent misuse, GCPTR is on-page examples only until 01 June 2021. If you are reading this in the accursed but beautiful barbarians who inhabit future, please check the remote north." Given that Shasta is no more than 14, and also given that trope page to make sure your example fits the Calormene lord already has plenty of slaves for manual labor, there may be [[{{Ephebophile}} very good reason]] Bree tells Shasta becoming Anradin's slave is a FateWorseThanDeath.current definition.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Lampshaded -- Shasta learns in a single evening that the old fisherman who raised him is not his real father ''and'' that the same man plans to sell him as a slave. He's not dismayed about either of these, since he knows he doesn't love the old man and, after all, his life is hard labor anyway, so being a slave would be no different and possibly better. What bothers him is that the visitor's ''horse'' speaks up and tells him that being his master's slave would be a FateWorseThanDeath.

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* AngstWhatAngst: Lampshaded -- Shasta learns in a single evening that the old fisherman who raised him is not his real father ''and'' that the same man plans to sell him as a slave. He's not dismayed about either of these, since Since he knows he doesn't love never loved the old man and, after all, and his life is hard labor anyway, so being a slave would be no different and possibly better. What bothers him is that basically slavery already, he's not too distressed. But when the visitor's ''horse'' speaks up and tells him that being his master's slave would be a FateWorseThanDeath.to run away, they run.
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Tarkaan Anradin, in his negotiations to buy Shasta, describes him as "fair and white like the accursed but beautiful barbarians who inhabit the remote north." Given that Shasta is no more than 14, and also given that the Calormene lord already has plenty of slaves for manual labor, there may be [[{{Squick}} very good reason]] Bree tells Shasta he'd be better off dead than Anradin's slave.

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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Tarkaan Anradin, in his negotiations to buy Shasta, describes him as "fair and white like the accursed but beautiful barbarians who inhabit the remote north." Given that Shasta is no more than 14, and also given that the Calormene lord already has plenty of slaves for manual labor, there may be [[{{Squick}} [[{{Ephebophile}} very good reason]] Bree tells Shasta he'd be better off dead than becoming Anradin's slave.slave is a FateWorseThanDeath.

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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as racist, as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences.

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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It easily comes off as xenophobic,[[note]]''Not'' racist, as some have claimed -- Lewis makes it clear that it is the culture, not the ancestry, that is flawed[[/note]] as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences.


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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Tarkaan Anradin, in his negotiations to buy Shasta, describes him as "fair and white like the accursed but beautiful barbarians who inhabit the remote north." Given that Shasta is no more than 14, and also given that the Calormene lord already has plenty of slaves for manual labor, there may be [[{{Squick}} very good reason]] Bree tells Shasta he'd be better off dead than Anradin's slave.
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* FairForItsDay: This book is slightly more feminist in terms of the women fighting than ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'''s infamous "battles are ugly when women fight". Aravis is at least familiar with weapons and it's illustrated that she could fight in battle if needed - not to mention keeping her head at a difficult situation in Tashbaan. Likewise Lucy is said to lead the archers in battle.

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* FairForItsDay: This book is slightly more feminist in terms of the women fighting than ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'''s infamous "battles are ugly when women fight". Aravis is at least familiar with weapons and it's illustrated that she could fight in battle if needed - -- not to mention keeping her head at a difficult situation in Tashbaan. Likewise Lucy is said to lead the archers in battle.
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* FanficFuel: As the only book in the series to take place entirely in another land - and we're given plenty of details of Calormene culture - it results in plenty of plots that explore more of what happens in Calormen.

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* FanficFuel: As the only book in the series to take place entirely in another land - -- and we're given plenty of details of Calormene culture - -- it results in plenty of plots that explore more of what happens in Calormen.
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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It's been interpreted as racist by a lot of people, as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences.

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* BrokenBase: The use of Calormen as a FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Middle East. It's been interpreted It easily comes off as racist by a lot of people, racist, as the lone unambiguously good Calormene character (Aravis) still starts off as rather haughty and [[spoiler: eventually becomes a northern princess]]. Others are more sympathetic, pointing out that only a few minor changes would have to be done in an adaptation to make the setting more palatable to modern audiences.
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* ValuesResonance: King Lune's words of wisdom on the character of a good ruler are ones that most readers will probably still approve of today, stressing responsibility, humility, justice and TheMenFirst:

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* ValuesResonance: King Lune's words of wisdom on the character of a good ruler are ones that most readers will probably still approve of today, stressing responsibility, humility, justice humility and TheMenFirst:
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-->"For this is what it means to be a king: to be first in every desperate attack and last in every desperate retreat, and when there's hunger in the land (and must be now and then in bad years) to wear finer clothes and laugh louder over a scantier meal than any man in your land."

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-->"For -->''For this is what it means to be a king: to be first in every desperate attack and last in every desperate retreat, and when there's hunger in the land (and must be now and then in bad years) to wear finer clothes and laugh louder over a scantier meal than any man in your land."''

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