History YMMV / TheHatefulEight

** Did Warren [[spoiler: actually torture and rape Smithers' son? Given he knows who he was despite not being there when Smithers talked to Mannix and liked overkill is it really far fetched? Or did he just make up the story to goad Smithers into attacking him so he could legally kill him?]]

*** [[spoiler:Considering Warren claims to have forced Smithers' son to walk naked in the cold for two hours before collapsing, he would have been too hypothermic to get back up at the promise of a blanket (and may have been in the false warmth stage anyway).]]

*** Even if the story isn't true, and even if the person that [[spoiler:Warren is trying to unnerve and antagonize into action]] happens to be [[AssholeVictim an unrepentant racist, mass-murdering war criminal]], it is arguably a very low blow to even ''claim'' to have done [[spoiler:the things that he supposedly did to a grieving father's late son]].

*** Even if the story isn't true, and even if the person that [[spoiler:Warren is trying to unnerve and antagonize into action]] happens to be [[AssholeVictim an unrepentant racist, mass-murdering war criminal]], it is arguably a very low blow to even ''claim'' to have done [[spoiler:the things that he supposedly did to his late son]].

*** Even if the story isn't true, and even if the person that [[spoiler:Warren is trying to unnerve and antagonize into action]] happens to be [[AssholeVictim an unrepentant racist, mass-murdering war criminal]], it is a very low blow to even ''claim'' to have done [[spoiler:the things that he supposedly did to his late son]].

*** Even if the story isn't true, and even if the person that [[spoiler:Warren is trying to unnerve and antagonize into action]] happens to be [[AssholeVictim an unrepentant racist, mass-murdering war criminal]], it is a very low blow to even ''pretend'' to have done [[spoiler:the things that he supposedly did to his late son]].

* AwesomeMusic: What else did you expect with Music/EnnioMorricone's first original Western soundtrack in ''decades''? A Golden Globe and an Oscar, that's what.

* JustForFun/SurprisinglySimilarCharacters: Daisy Domergue has several surprising tropes in common with Tuco from ''Film/TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly.'' Both are FauxAffablyEvil / LaughablyEvil fugitives, with [[EvenEvilhasLovedOnes loved ones]], have noticeable FoeYay relationships with their bounty hunter opponents, and who [[ButtMonkey suffer enough abuse and humiliation to make you feel bad for them]]. They hardly catch a break and ultimately don't get the upper hand in the end. The big difference between the two is that Daisy progressively gets worse and worse for wear and [[spoiler: ultimately doesn't survive her ordeal]]. Furthermore, there's a big gap in the sympathy that Tarantino and Leone have for their respective characters.

* SurprisinglySimilarCharacters: Daisy Domergue has several surprising tropes in common with Tuco from ''Film/TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly.'' Both are FauxAffablyEvil / LaughablyEvil fugitives, with [[EvenEvilhasLovedOnes loved ones]], have noticeable FoeYay relationships with their bounty hunter opponents, and who [[ButtMonkey suffer enough abuse and humiliation to make you feel bad for them]]. They hardly catch a break and ultimately don't get the upper hand in the end. The big difference between the two is that Daisy progressively gets worse and worse for wear and [[spoiler: ultimately doesn't survive her ordeal]]. Furthermore, there's a big gap in the sympathy that Tarantino and Leone have for their respective characters.

*** Given that [[spoiler: Smithers' conversation with Mannix suggests he knew that his son had gone off to do something dangerous (which killing one of the most wanted men in the Confederacy would certainly count as,) and Warrren knew the boy's first and middle names, which Smithers did not mention to Mannix at all, and thus could not even have been talked about offscreen, it seems likely that at least part of his story is true.]]
** Was the [[spoiler: Lincoln letter really fake? Or did Warren just play along with a bunch of racists making fun of him, and if fake why punch a woman in the face for ruining it then quickly try and save it?]]

** JerkassWoobie: A few of the main characters have their moments. Daisy, for example, never catches a break throughout the film, and since we're never really told what she did, the worst things being uttering racial slurs, watch while several people die and try to kill and manipulate a few others in fairly understandable self-defence, the violence against her feels like DisproportionateRetribution . Whilst her brother's gang executed a number of people, Daisy did not actually take part in the killing spree and her death feels unjustified to many viewers and is discussed as such in essays and reviews [[spoiler: Until it's explained the $10,000 bounty is because she belongs to one of the worse criminal gang led by her brother, who showed their ruthlessness by gunning Minnie's crew.]]

** JerkassWoobie: A few of the main characters have their moments. Daisy, for example, never catches a break throughout the film, and since we're never really told what she did, the worst things being uttering racial slurs, watch while several people die and try to kill and manipulate a few others in fairly understandable self-defence, the violence against her feels like DisproportionateRetribution . Whilst her brother's gang executed a number of people, Daisy did not actually take part in the killing spree and her death feels unjustified to many viewers and is discussed as such in essays and reviews [[spoiler: Until it's explained the 10 000 bounty is because she belongs to one of the worse criminal gang led by her brother, who showed their ruthlessness by gunning Minnie's crew.]]

** One could argue that Mannix is the nicer (or less hateful) character from the hateful 8, more than John Ruth. For starters, he doesn't spend half the movie hitting a cuffed and defenseless woman in the face. John Ruth's past is at least as dirty as Mannix: He is a proud bounty hunter (basically a legal hitman) who loves seeing his bounties being hanged and brags about it. Mannix is no sadist, although a racist who participated in atrocities committed during war, having fought in a confederate militia. But with his father being a confederate war hero, it could be interpreted he enlisted mostly for a sense of duty and family expectation, reasons why many young men go to war, not blood thirst. By the end of the movie, there is little doubt he is actually sheriff, as he is honorable and zealous about the law, refusing to kill an unarmed man (even in a situation when it would be perfectly justifiable). He is mostly polite during the movie, and eventually overcomes his racism, as he befriends Warren, and doesn't kill him even when he has a perfect opportunity for doing so.

*** [[spoiler:She did unequivocally kill John Ruth. And the 10 000 bounty is because she is part of a ruthless band of killers, the guy who makes a frontier justice speech is even her partner in crime. At best she is innocent of a crime because she was busy committing another one. Even so, she killed him in self defence.]]

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[spoiler:Daisy starts the picture as 100 pounds of crazy in a 10 pound bag; with her sass, feral cunning and her truly astounding ability to take a beating. However, she never gets a chance to truly shine, ending up just another victim, being hanged by 2 virtually incapacitated men. Her last attempt to kill the remaining heroes by chopping Ruth's arm was a good effort though.]]

* TooCoolToLive: Okay, he's about as much of a dick as most of the other characters in the film, but it can be hard not to mourn the loss of [[spoiler:Ruth (and his glorious 'stache). Helps that he's played by Kurt Russell.]]

* WhatAnIdiot: After [[spoiler: Ruth is poisoned, there are five people in on Daisy's escape who are all capable of easily killing the two confused lawmen (Warren and Mannix) who are both unsure who is working against them. Jody, armed and unseen, Mobray with a hidden pistol, Gage with the hidden pistol in the table, Daisy with Ruth's gun, and Bob. Yet they all surrender themselves to Warren for no reason.]]

* DracoInLeatherPants: A lot of people give Daisy the status of victim since we don't know how she got that bounty [[spoiler: to the point where they forgot Warren explained that being part of her brother's murderous gang is why her bounty is as high as it is, and she antagonizes as much as she gets beat up.]] It helps that she's quite funny and a great deal more likeable than the other characters. They also tend to emphasize her bravery, toughness and intelligence, forgetting that these qualities have very little to do with her overall morality.

** [[spoiler:She did unequivocally kill John Ruth. And the 10 000 bounty is because she is part of a ruthless band of killers, the guy who makes a frontier justice speech is even her partner in crime. At best she is innocent of a crime because she was busy committing another one. Even so, she killed him in self defence.]]

** [[spoiler:She did unequivocally kill John Ruth. And the 10 000 bounty is because she is part of a ruthless band of killers, the guy who makes a frontier justice speech is even her partner in crime. At best she is innocent of a crime because she was busy committing another one.]]

** Warren's an excellent shot and he's not shy about using bullets to make his point. [[spoiler: Which means he's wasting ammunition, and runs out accordingly later on. You'd think an experienced CombatPragmatist would be a little more prudent about it. Daisy didn't really need to lose those toes, did she? Justified in that he is kind of delirious after the whole GroinAttack]]

* OvershadowedByControversy:
** A month before the film's release, Tarantino joined a rally against police violence, causing police unions around the country to declare they would boycott the film, and not provide help to any future projects of his. This caused his fans to get up in arms themselves, especially when an NYPD spokesman said there would be "a surprise" for Tarantino when the film opened, sounding for all the world like some kind of mob boss. They reneged on whatever the plan was shortly before the opening, having finally realized they were only giving the film [[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity free]] [[StreisandEffect publicity]] (and from the more cynical suspicions, realizing that busting some heads at the theater would only get them [[NotHelpingYourCase more bad publicity]]).
** In addition, Tarantino also discovered that Creator/{{Disney}}, who he had worked with on ''Pulp Fiction'' and the ''Kill Bill'' movies, had pre-booked the L.A. Cinerama Dome by [=ArcLight=] and had threatened to withhold ''Franchise/StarWars Episode VII: Film/TheForceAwakens'' from that chain if they did not screen ''Star Wars'' in place of ''The Hateful 8'', a practice called "Clearance", which they enforced when they discovered the theater had [[NiceJobBreakingItHero accidentally double-booked these movies]] [[note]]this practice became the target of a lawsuit against AMC Theatres that was filed by Viva Cinemas, a UsefulNotes/{{Houston}} theater in their Sharpstown/[=PlazAmericas=] area in the southwest that went out of business only months after opening in 2013 thanks to AMC threatening not to screen any movies that were screened in first-run at Viva; [=iPic=], which opened a theater near River Oaks, also sued one of the major cinema chains, Regal, when they played the Clearance card on Disney and refused to screen ''Star Wars'' at the Greenway Plaza Grand Palace theater for that film's first month in theaters when [=iPic=] was able to secure the right to screen ''The Force Awakens'' at their theater; this threat did not extend to Regal's other Houston theaters including the Marq-E in Memorial, which screened ''Star Wars'' without incident. This whole suit got the attention of the Department of Justice in 2015 for antitrust reasons[[/note]]. Tarantino was livid and went off on Disney (the tickets for ''Star Wars'' actually went on sale in the summer for showings during Christmas, during which Tarantino though they were going to play his movie; [=ArcLight=] never informed him of the double-booking fiasco until the last minute, but this hasn't stopped Tarantino from vowing never to work with Disney again.
** The fact that a 140 year old antique guitar was accidentally destroyed during filming is a smaller controversy that may be all some people know about the film.

** In addition, Tarantino also discovered that Creator/{{Disney}}, who he had worked with on ''Pulp Fiction'' and the ''Kill Bill'' movies, had pre-booked the L.A. Cinerama Dome by [=ArcLight=] and had threatened to withhold ''Franchise/StarWars Episode VII: Film/TheForceAwakens'' from that chain if they did not screen ''Star Wars'' in place of ''The Hateful 8'', a practice called "Clearance", which they enforced when they discovered the theater had [[NiceJobBreakingItHero accidentally double-booked these movies]] [[note]]this practice became the target of a lawsuit against AMC Theatres that was filed by Viva Cinemas, a UsefulNotes/{{Houston}} theater in their Sharpstown/[=PlazAmericas=] area in the southwest that went out of business only months after opening in 2013 thanks to AMC threatening not to screen any movies that were screened in first-run at Viva; [=iPic=], which opened a theater near River Oaks, also sued one of the major cinema chains, Regal, when they played the Clearance card on Disney and refused to screen ''Star Wars'' at the Greenway Plaza Grand Palace theater for that film's first month in theaters when [=iPic=] was able to secure the right to screen ''The Force Awakens'' at their theater; this threat did not extend to Regal's other Houston theaters including the Marq-E in Memorial, which screened ''Star Wars'' without incident. This whole suit got the attention of the Department of Justice in 2015 for antitrust reasons[[/note]]. Tarantino was livid and went off on Disney (the tickets for ''Star Wars'' actually went on sale in the summer for showings during Christmas, during which Tarantino though they were going to play his movie; [=ArcLight=] never informed him of the double-booking fiasco until the last minute, but this hasn't stopped Tarantino from vowing never to work with Disney again, and one of the last times someone made a vow like this, it was in the wake of a contract breach regarding ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' and Creator/RobinWilliams; this was one of the steps that led directly to studio chief Jeffrey Katzenberg's acrimonious departure from the studio, though not before he sealed the deal that led to Tarantino winding up with Disney in the first place, and that is why Creator/DreamWorks, Creator/DreamWorksAnimation, AND a 25-year clause against using extra Robin Williams voice clips [[note]] Except for what was already shown on the movie's theatrical release and the three [[Creator/WaltDisneyHomeVideo home video]] releases under the [[WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyClassics Walt Disney "Black Diamond" Classics]], [[WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyPlatinumEditions Platinum Editions]] & [[WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyDiamondEditions Diamond Editions]] brands [[/note]] for the film exist.