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** Also on the Meta level: the set of values promoted in the book are the very idealised image of what perfect samurai ''ought to be''. Actually trying to apply them in practice would [[AwesomeButImpractical almost certainly bring ruin and dishonor]] on [[HonorBeforeReason their adherents]] and their family, and has virtually nothing to do with the ''real'' samurai lifestyle in the times Yamamoto longs to. A strong case can be made that this book is directly responsible for Japan plunging into total insanity and disaster culminating in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo, as ''Hagakure'' was the cornerstone to write the infamous ''Bushido: The Soul of Japan'', a PropagandaPiece that "updated" made-up "eternal" codes of proper conduct.

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** Also on the Meta level: the set of values promoted in the book are the very idealised image of what perfect samurai ''ought to be''. Actually trying to apply them in practice would [[AwesomeButImpractical almost certainly bring ruin and dishonor]] on [[HonorBeforeReason their adherents]] and their family, and has virtually nothing to do with the ''real'' samurai lifestyle in the times Yamamoto longs to. A strong case can be made that this book is directly responsible for Japan plunging into total insanity and disaster culminating in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo, as ''Hagakure'' was the cornerstone to write the infamous ''Bushido: The Soul of Japan'', a PropagandaPiece that "updated" made-up "eternal" codes of proper conduct.conduct and in turn became a cornerstone for the Japanese militarism.
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** Also on the Meta level: the set of values promoted in the book are the very idealised image of what perfect samurai ''ought to be''. Actually trying to apply them in practice would [[AwesomeButImpractical almost certainly bring ruin and dishonor]] on [[HonorBeforeReason their adherents]] and their family, and has virtually nothing to do with the ''real'' samurai lifestyle in the times Yamamoto longs to. A strong case can be made that this book is directly responsible for Japan plunging into total insanity and disaster culminating in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.

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** Also on the Meta level: the set of values promoted in the book are the very idealised image of what perfect samurai ''ought to be''. Actually trying to apply them in practice would [[AwesomeButImpractical almost certainly bring ruin and dishonor]] on [[HonorBeforeReason their adherents]] and their family, and has virtually nothing to do with the ''real'' samurai lifestyle in the times Yamamoto longs to. A strong case can be made that this book is directly responsible for Japan plunging into total insanity and disaster culminating in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo, as ''Hagakure'' was the cornerstone to write the infamous ''Bushido: The Soul of Japan'', a PropagandaPiece that "updated" made-up "eternal" codes of proper conduct.
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** Also on the Meta level: the set of values promoted in the book are the very idealised image of what perfect samurai ''ought to be''. Actually trying to apply them in practice would [[AwesomeButImpractical almost certainly bring ruin and dishonor]] on [[HonorBeforeReason their adherents]] and their family, and has virtually nothing to do with the ''real'' samurai lifestyle in the times Yamamoto longs to.

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** Also on the Meta level: the set of values promoted in the book are the very idealised image of what perfect samurai ''ought to be''. Actually trying to apply them in practice would [[AwesomeButImpractical almost certainly bring ruin and dishonor]] on [[HonorBeforeReason their adherents]] and their family, and has virtually nothing to do with the ''real'' samurai lifestyle in the times Yamamoto longs to. A strong case can be made that this book is directly responsible for Japan plunging into total insanity and disaster culminating in UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.
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* HilariousInHindsight: A fragment states that Yamamoto believes that any man is senile when he reaches the age of sixty, and any who do not think already are. Fittingly, the man himself seemed to thought that wasn't for him and died only six months into the age of sixty.

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* HilariousInHindsight: A fragment states that Yamamoto believes that any man is senile when he reaches the age of sixty, and any who do not think so already are. Fittingly, the man himself seemed to thought that wasn't for him and died only six months into the age of sixty.
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* {{Values Dissonance}}: The author is not kind to women.

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* {{Values Dissonance}}: The author is not kind Yamamoto was ''viciously'' [[StayInTheKitchen misogynistic,]] going as far as to women.say that simply raising daughters was "shameful" or that women had no sense of moral compass, able to be "pushed" in any direction.
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* AwesomeButImpractical: A ''lot'' of Yamamoto advices are actually this.
* HilariousInHindsight: A fragment states that Yamamoto believes that any man is senile when he reaches the age of sixty, and any who do not think already are. Fittingly, the man himself died only six months into the age of sixty.
{{Ho Yay}}: Love between men is "the purest love."

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* AwesomeButImpractical: A ''lot'' of Yamamoto advices are Yamamoto's advice is actually this.
* HilariousInHindsight: A fragment states that Yamamoto believes that any man is senile when he reaches the age of sixty, and any who do not think already are. Fittingly, the man himself seemed to thought that wasn't for him and died only six months into the age of sixty.
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{{Ho Yay}}: Love between men is "the purest love."
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* {{Ho Yay}}: Love between men is "the purest love."

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* HilariousInHindsight: A fragment states that Yamamoto believes that any man is senile when he reaches the age of sixty, and any who do not think already are. Fittingly, the man himself died only six months into the age of sixty.
{{Ho Yay}}: Love between men is "the purest love."

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* AwesomeButImpractical: A ''lot'' of Yamamoto advices are actually this.




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** Also on the Meta level: the set of values promoted in the book are the very idealised image of what perfect samurai ''ought to be''. Actually trying to apply them in practice would [[AwesomeButImpractical almost certainly bring ruin and dishonor]] on [[HonorBeforeReason their adherents]] and their family, and has virtually nothing to do with the ''real'' samurai lifestyle in the times Yamamoto longs to.
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* {{Complete Monster}}: In one story, a grandmother and her grandson are killed in cold blood by a thug named Goroemon. Why? The child had [[DisproportionateRetribution accidentally stepped on his foot]]. The child's uncles, one of them a monk named Denko, grab swords and [[RoaringRampageofRevenge seek vengeance]]. [[WhatTheHellHero The father does nothing.]]
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* {{Values Dissonance}}: The author is not kind to women.

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* {{Values Dissonance}}: The author is not kind to women.women.

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* {{Complete Monster}}: In one story, a grandmother and her grandson are murdered in cold blood by a thug named Goroemon. Why? The child had [[DisproportionateRetribution accidentally stepped on his foot]]. The child's uncles, one of them a monk named Denko, grab swords and [[RoaringRampageofRevenge seek vengeance]]. [[WhatTheHellHero The father does nothing.]]

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* {{Complete Monster}}: In one story, a grandmother and her grandson are murdered killed in cold blood by a thug named Goroemon. Why? The child had [[DisproportionateRetribution accidentally stepped on his foot]]. The child's uncles, one of them a monk named Denko, grab swords and [[RoaringRampageofRevenge seek vengeance]]. [[WhatTheHellHero The father does nothing.]]
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* {{Complete Monster}}: In one story, a grandmother and her grandson are murdered in cold blood by a thug named Goroemon. Why? The child had [[DisproportionateRetribution accidentally stepped on his foot]]. The child's uncles, one of them a monk named Denko, grab swords and [[RoaringRampageofRevenge seek vengeance]]. [[WhatTheHellHero The father does nothing.]]
* {{Ho Yay}}: Love between men is "the purest love."
* {{Values Dissonance}}: The author is not kind to women.

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