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* IKnewIt: Many called it that Savitar was one of the time remnants created by Future Barry to stop him; not only was Future Barry's wording about them very cagey, but many found it simply inconceivable that our Barry would ever kill Iris of his own free will.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** The amnesia story is largely an excuse for the show's crew to let us know they've heard the complaints about how overly grim the show has gotten, and they'll be working to fix it.
** Writers finally decided to make a handwave about the rules of time travel so fans wouldn't have to wrap their heads around any repeat offenses in later seasons (both here and ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'').
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The shot in the opening scene when Barry has Savitar in a chokehold looks utterly seamless. For that matter, the brief lightning-throw fight between them is nothing to sneeze at, either.

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The shot in the opening scene when Barry has Savitar in a chokehold looks utterly seamless. For that matter, the brief lightning-throw fight between them is nothing to sneeze at, either.
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The shot in the opening scene when Barry has Savitar in a chokehold looks utterly seamless. For that matter, the brief lightning-throw fight between them is nothing to sneeze at, either.
** King Shark returns in TheStinger, and he looks as amazing as ever.

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** Savitar's true ''true'' identity (not Future Flash, but a [[CloningBlues Time Remnant]] of the actual, still-heroic Future Flash) possibly alleviates complaints about TheReveal.



* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain; though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where '''יהוה''', [[note]]'''YHWH''', Romanised '''JHVH'''; Pronounced: '''Yahweh''', Romanised '''Jehovah''' (More commonly used pronunciation)[[/note]] ''(That's the name of the Abrahamic God)'' states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to. Of course, this could be less the writers failing research and more an intentional facet of Savitar's warped AGodAmI worldview.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain; though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where '''יהוה''', [[note]]'''YHWH''', Romanised '''JHVH'''; Pronounced: '''Yahweh''', Romanised '''Jehovah''' (More commonly used pronunciation)[[/note]] ''(That's the name of the Abrahamic God)'' states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to. Of course, this could be less the writers failing research and more an intentional facet of Savitar's warped AGodAmI worldview.----
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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain; though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where '''יהוה''', [[note]]'''YHWH''', Romanised '''JHVH'''; Pronounced: '''Yahweh''', Romanised '''Jehovah''' (More commonly used pronunciation)[[/note]] ''(That's the name of the Abrahamic God)'' states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain; though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where '''יהוה''', [[note]]'''YHWH''', Romanised '''JHVH'''; Pronounced: '''Yahweh''', Romanised '''Jehovah''' (More commonly used pronunciation)[[/note]] ''(That's the name of the Abrahamic God)'' states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to. Of course, this could be less the writers failing research and more an intentional facet of Savitar's warped AGodAmI worldview.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain; though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where '''יהוה''', [[note]]'''YHWH''', Romanised '''JHVH'''; Pronounced: '''Yahweh''', Romanised '''Jehovah''' (More commonly used pronunciation)[[/note]] ''(That's the name of the Abrahamic God)'' states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.
** It's likely Savitar knew this but refused to acknowledge it as it would lessen his godhood.
** Or that he was referring to the general idea of god rather than the Old Testament version specifically.
*** Probably not, [[SadlyMythtaken a lot of people just go off rumors, misconceptions and common sayings when it comes to religious stuff]], especially '''The Bible''', considering that Savitar has only referenced commonly known religious stories and hasn't shown in-depth knowledge, he's most likely just following suit. He doesn't even realize that there's already a Hindu Sun God with the name [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitr Savitar]].

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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain; though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where '''יהוה''', [[note]]'''YHWH''', Romanised '''JHVH'''; Pronounced: '''Yahweh''', Romanised '''Jehovah''' (More commonly used pronunciation)[[/note]] ''(That's the name of the Abrahamic God)'' states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.
** It's likely Savitar knew this but refused to acknowledge it as it would lessen his godhood.
** Or that he was referring to the general idea of god rather than the Old Testament version specifically.
*** Probably not, [[SadlyMythtaken a lot of people just go off rumors, misconceptions and common sayings when it comes to religious stuff]], especially '''The Bible''', considering that Savitar has only referenced commonly known religious stories and hasn't shown in-depth knowledge, he's most likely just following suit. He doesn't even realize that there's already a Hindu Sun God with the name [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitr Savitar]].
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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain; though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where God states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain; though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where God '''יהוה''', [[note]]'''YHWH''', Romanised '''JHVH'''; Pronounced: '''Yahweh''', Romanised '''Jehovah''' (More commonly used pronunciation)[[/note]] ''(That's the name of the Abrahamic God)'' states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.
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*** Probably not, [[SadlyMythtaken a lot of people just off rumors, misconceptions and common sayings when it comes to religious stuff]], especially '''The Bible''', considering that Savitar as only referenced commonly known religious stories and hasn't shown in-depth knowledge he's most likely just following suit. He doesn't even realize that there's already a Hindu Sun God with the name [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitr Savitar]].

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*** Probably not, [[SadlyMythtaken a lot of people just go off rumors, misconceptions and common sayings when it comes to religious stuff]], especially '''The Bible''', considering that Savitar as has only referenced commonly known religious stories and hasn't shown in-depth knowledge knowledge, he's most likely just following suit. He doesn't even realize that there's already a Hindu Sun God with the name [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitr Savitar]].
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*** Probably not, [[SadlyMythtaken a lot of people just off rumors, misconceptions and common sayings when it comes to religious stuff]], especially '''The Bible''', considering that Savitar as only referenced commonly known religious stories and shown in-depth knownledge he's most likely just following suit. He doesn't even realize that there's already a Hindu Sun God with the name [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitr Savitar]].

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*** Probably not, [[SadlyMythtaken a lot of people just off rumors, misconceptions and common sayings when it comes to religious stuff]], especially '''The Bible''', considering that Savitar as only referenced commonly known religious stories and hasn't shown in-depth knownledge knowledge he's most likely just following suit. He doesn't even realize that there's already a Hindu Sun God with the name [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitr Savitar]].
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*** Probably not, [[SadlyMythstaken a lot of people just off rumors, misconceptions and common sayings when it comes to religious stuff]], especially '''The Bible''', considering that Savitar as only referenced commonly known religious stories and shown in-depth knownledge he's most likely just following suit. He doesn't even realize that there's already a Hindu Sun God with the name [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitr Savitar]].

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*** Probably not, [[SadlyMythstaken [[SadlyMythtaken a lot of people just off rumors, misconceptions and common sayings when it comes to religious stuff]], especially '''The Bible''', considering that Savitar as only referenced commonly known religious stories and shown in-depth knownledge he's most likely just following suit. He doesn't even realize that there's already a Hindu Sun God with the name [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitr Savitar]].
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** Or that he was referring to the general idea of god rather than the Old Testament version specifically.

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** Or that he was referring to the general idea of god rather than the Old Testament version specifically.specifically.
*** Probably not, [[SadlyMythstaken a lot of people just off rumors, misconceptions and common sayings when it comes to religious stuff]], especially '''The Bible''', considering that Savitar as only referenced commonly known religious stories and shown in-depth knownledge he's most likely just following suit. He doesn't even realize that there's already a Hindu Sun God with the name [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savitr Savitar]].
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** It's likely Savitar knew this but refused to acknowledge it as it would lessen his godhood.

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** It's likely Savitar knew this but refused to acknowledge it as it would lessen his godhood.godhood.
** Or that he was referring to the general idea of god rather than the Old Testament version specifically.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain; though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where God states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain; though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where God states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.to.
** It's likely Savitar knew this but refused to acknowledge it as it would lessen his godhood.
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** Savitar's true ''true'' identity (not Future Flash, but a [[CloningBlues Time remnant]] of the actual, still-heroic Future Flash) possibly alleviates complaints about TheReveal.

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** Savitar's true ''true'' identity (not Future Flash, but a [[CloningBlues Time remnant]] Remnant]] of the actual, still-heroic Future Flash) possibly alleviates complaints about TheReveal.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain, though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where God states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain, pain; though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where God states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The amnesia story is largely an excuse for the show's crew to let us know they've heard the complaints about how overly grim the show has gotten, and they'll be working to fix it.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Savitar's true ''true'' identity (not Future Flash, but a [[CloningBlues Time remnant]] of the actual, still-heroic Future Flash) possibly alleviates complaints about TheReveal.
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The amnesia story is largely an excuse for the show's crew to let us know they've heard the complaints about how overly grim the show has gotten, and they'll be working to fix it.it.
** Writers finally decided to make a handwave about the rules of time travel so fans wouldn't have to wrap their heads around any repeat offenses in later seasons (both here and ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'').
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* BrokenBase: Some people enjoyed the amnesia story for being a more lighthearted story after all the grimness that the show's been having due to the Savitar arc. Others criticize it for being basically a {{Filler}} story at a time when the show should be focused on making the final preparations for Barry's attempt to save Iris from being killed by Savitar.
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Jehovah is a not entirely accurate translation, let's just leave it with God


* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain, though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where Jehovah[[note]]That's the name of the Abrahamic God[[/note]] states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain, though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages where Jehovah[[note]]That's the name of the Abrahamic God[[/note]] God states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain, though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages were Jehovah[[note]]That's the name of the Abrahamic God[[/note]] states feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain, though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages were where Jehovah[[note]]That's the name of the Abrahamic God[[/note]] states he's feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.
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* CriticalResearchFaliure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain, though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages were Jehovah[[note]]That's the name of the Abrahamic God[[/note]] states feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.

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* CriticalResearchFaliure: CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain, though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages were Jehovah[[note]]That's the name of the Abrahamic God[[/note]] states feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The amnesia story is largely an excuse for the show's crew to let us know they've heard the complaints about how overly grim the show has gotten, and they'll be working to fix it.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The amnesia story is largely an excuse for the show's crew to let us know they've heard the complaints about how overly grim the show has gotten, and they'll be working to fix it.it.
* CriticalResearchFaliure: In-Universe. Savitar claims he sought godhood because {{God}} doesn't feel pain, though it is true that he doesn't feel physical pain,[[note]]Due to having no Physical Form[[/note]] the Old Testament does include multiple passages were Jehovah[[note]]That's the name of the Abrahamic God[[/note]] states feeling emotional pain, which is what Savitar was referring to.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The amnesia story is largely an excuse for the show's crew to let us know they've heard the complaints about how overly grim the show has gotten, and they'll be working to fix it.

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