History YMMV / TheEmperorsNewGroove

14th Feb '18 2:35:38 PM N8han11
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The direct-to-DVD ''Kronk's New Groove'' was [[DownplayedTrope by no means terrible]], featuring some decent animation and good gags here and there, but it was still a [[SoOkayItsAverage rather forgettable film]], playing out more like three episodes of a TV cartoon stitched together into a movie than a true follow up. The follow-up TV series ''WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewSchool'' regained some lost ground but had a tendency to take jokes from the original movie and re-re-re-use them until they lay in tatters.

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The direct-to-DVD ''Kronk's New Groove'' was [[DownplayedTrope by no means terrible]], featuring some decent animation and good gags here and there, but it was still a [[SoOkayItsAverage rather forgettable film]], playing out more like three episodes of a TV cartoon stitched together into a movie than a true follow up. up.
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The follow-up TV series ''WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewSchool'' regained some lost ground but had a tendency to take jokes from the original movie and re-re-re-use them until they lay in tatters.
28th Jan '18 6:21:06 PM ngh93
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-->'''Kitty!Yzma:''' I'm not going to drop [the potion] you fool! I'm going to drink it! And once I'm back to my beautiful self I'm going to '''[[SlasherSmile KILL YOU!!!!]]''' (''[[EvilLaugh laughs evilly]], then [[NightmareRetardant struggles to open the bottle]]'')

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-->'''Kitty!Yzma:''' I'm not going to drop [the potion] potion], you fool! I'm going to drink it! And once I'm back to my beautiful self I'm going to '''[[SlasherSmile KILL YOU!!!!]]''' (''[[EvilLaugh laughs evilly]], then [[NightmareRetardant struggles to open the bottle]]'')
15th Jan '18 9:18:38 AM Gosicrystal
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* EarWorm: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5F7NbRjqXA "Run Llama Run."]]

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* EarWorm: EarWorm:
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[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5F7NbRjqXA "Run Llama Run."]]



** Creator/PatrickWarburton apparently likes [[WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers playing the bodyguard to a very skinny, inept mad scientist]].
*** He also [[WesternAnimation/{{Hoodwinked}} speaks regularly to a manic squirrel]].

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** Creator/PatrickWarburton apparently likes [[WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers playing the bodyguard to a very skinny, inept mad scientist]].
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scientist]]. He also [[WesternAnimation/{{Hoodwinked}} speaks regularly to a manic squirrel]].



* HoYay: Kuzco and Pacha. Come on, you saw it. They had Kuzco dress up as a woman and pretends to be newlyweds with Pacha, Pacha almost giving him CPR and claiming "it was not a kiss", the amount of awkwardness between the two (including after they hug!), and Kuzco's {{Tsundere}} dynamic with Pacha. Oh, and Kuzco constantly ordering Pacha to take him back to the palace has eventually been shortened to "take me back" over the course of how many times it's been said. What more proof do you need?

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* HoYay: HoYay:
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Kuzco and Pacha. Come on, you saw it. They had Kuzco dress up as a woman and pretends to be newlyweds with Pacha, Pacha almost giving him CPR and claiming "it was not a kiss", the amount of awkwardness between the two (including after they hug!), and Kuzco's {{Tsundere}} dynamic with Pacha. Oh, and Kuzco constantly ordering Pacha to take him back to the palace has eventually been shortened to "take me back" over the course of how many times it's been said. What more proof do you need?



* NightmareFuel: The final film is light-hearted and comedic... [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBpX_laWoY8 This deleted scene,]] on the other hand, depicting the guards destroying a cardboard cutout of Pacha's village, is surprisingly intense.

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* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
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The final film is light-hearted and comedic... [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBpX_laWoY8 This deleted scene,]] on the other hand, depicting the guards destroying a cardboard cutout of Pacha's village, is surprisingly intense.



* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames:
** The UsefulNotes/PlayStation, [[UsefulNotes/SegaDreamcast Dreamcast]], and PC game was just as humorous and satirical as the movie is, [[LampshadeHanging hanging lampshades]] on video game clichés long before ''VideoGame/TheSimpsonsGame'' did. However, there are changes to the plot, such as game Kuzco knowing Yzma is trying to kill him right from the start, while in the movie he did not learn that until after the diner scene. We should also note that Yzma's crocodiles are, shall we say, [[NightmareFuel more competent guards]] than they were in the movie.
* OlderThanTheyThink: Look at [[http://www.cornel1801.com/disney/Saludos-Amigos-1942/film2_1.jpg this kid]] from ''Disney/SaludosAmigos''. Does the outfit look familiar? Maybe if we put it on [[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9_UOkwurFo8/TzTj8YLIhgI/AAAAAAAACHE/MtbUGWOPZMs/s1600/saludos_lake+titicaca.jpg somebody]] [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_locxc5bPCx1qhigt0o1_500.gif else...]]

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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames:
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SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The UsefulNotes/PlayStation, [[UsefulNotes/SegaDreamcast Dreamcast]], and PC game was just as humorous and satirical as the movie is, [[LampshadeHanging hanging lampshades]] on video game clichés long before ''VideoGame/TheSimpsonsGame'' did. However, there are changes to the plot, such as game Kuzco knowing Yzma is trying to kill him right from the start, while in the movie he did not learn that until after the diner scene. We should also note that Yzma's crocodiles are, shall we say, [[NightmareFuel more competent guards]] than they were in the movie.
* OlderThanTheyThink: OlderThanTheyThink:
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Look at [[http://www.cornel1801.com/disney/Saludos-Amigos-1942/film2_1.jpg this kid]] from ''Disney/SaludosAmigos''. Does the outfit look familiar? Maybe if we put it on [[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9_UOkwurFo8/TzTj8YLIhgI/AAAAAAAACHE/MtbUGWOPZMs/s1600/saludos_lake+titicaca.jpg somebody]] [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_locxc5bPCx1qhigt0o1_500.gif else...]]



* {{Woolseyism}}: When Pacha first meets Llama!Kuzco and questions this, Kuzco answers "Yeah, who do you think you're talking to?" In the Norwegian dub, they apparently found it hard to fit the lip sync and instead had Kuzco mockingly mimic Pacha's question (with an added lisp to boot), which somehow made it even funnier.
--> '''Kuzco:''' "Ugh! Kaiser Kuzco!?"

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* {{Woolseyism}}: {{Woolseyism}}:
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When Pacha first meets Llama!Kuzco and questions this, Kuzco answers "Yeah, who do you think you're talking to?" In the Norwegian dub, they apparently found it hard to fit the lip sync and instead had Kuzco mockingly mimic Pacha's question (with an added lisp to boot), which somehow made it even funnier.
--> ---> '''Kuzco:''' "Ugh! Ugh! Kaiser Kuzco!?" Kuzco!?



12th Dec '17 4:38:38 AM Shadowgazer
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* RootingForTheEmpire: It isn't that Kuzco and Pacha ''aren't'' entertaining or good characters, so much as [[EvilIsCool Kronk and Yzma]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse flat-out steal the show]], to the point that some viewers even wish that Kuzco ''doesn't'' get better just because they want to see the villains succeed.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: It isn't that Kuzco and Pacha ''aren't'' entertaining or good characters, so much as [[EvilIsCool Kronk and Yzma]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse flat-out steal the show]], to the point that some viewers even wish that Kuzco ''doesn't'' get better just because they want to see the other villains succeed.
8th Nov '17 2:15:33 PM NWolfman
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* RootingForTheEmpire: It isn't that Kuzco and Pacha ''aren't'' entertaining or good characters, so much as [[EvilIsCool Kronk and Yzma]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse flat-out steal the show]], to the point that some viewers even wish that Kuzco ''doesn't'' get better just because they want to see the villains succeed. It also helps that it's made rather clear that the citizens of the kingdom hate Kuzco and don't miss him when they think he's dead; if Yzma is a bad ruler, it's left to OffstageVillainy.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: It isn't that Kuzco and Pacha ''aren't'' entertaining or good characters, so much as [[EvilIsCool Kronk and Yzma]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse flat-out steal the show]], to the point that some viewers even wish that Kuzco ''doesn't'' get better just because they want to see the villains succeed. It also helps that it's made rather clear that the citizens of the kingdom hate Kuzco and don't miss him when they think he's dead; if Yzma is a bad ruler, it's left to OffstageVillainy.
1st Nov '17 6:51:05 AM Shadowgazer
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** Kuzco came damn near close to crossing this when he left Pacha to die hanging from the rope bridge. Subverted when Kuzco gets stuck as well, and they have to work together to get out of it.

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** Kuzco has three possible candidates: Throwing an old man from the window for ruining his groove, deciding to demolish Pacha's village to build his country palace and answering to Pacha's protests with "When I give the word, your little town thing will go ''bye bye''" and also came damn near close to crossing this it when he left Pacha to die hanging from the rope bridge. Subverted bridge and admitted that he planned to imprison him for life but he liked that punishment more. That last one was ruined though when Kuzco gets stuck as well, and they have to work together to get out of it.



** Kuzco bring surrounded by hungry Jaguars as a llama. It's very unnerving thanks to their black fur.

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** Kuzco bring being surrounded by hungry Jaguars as a llama. It's very unnerving thanks to their black fur.
18th Oct '17 8:06:37 PM DrakeClawfang
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* RootingForTheEmpire: It isn't that Kuzco and Pacha ''aren't'' entertaining or good characters, so much as [[EvilIsCool Kronk and Yzma]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse flat-out steal the show]], to the point that some viewers even wish that Kuzco ''doesn't'' get better just because they want to see the villains succeed.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: It isn't that Kuzco and Pacha ''aren't'' entertaining or good characters, so much as [[EvilIsCool Kronk and Yzma]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse flat-out steal the show]], to the point that some viewers even wish that Kuzco ''doesn't'' get better just because they want to see the villains succeed. It also helps that it's made rather clear that the citizens of the kingdom hate Kuzco and don't miss him when they think he's dead; if Yzma is a bad ruler, it's left to OffstageVillainy.
18th Oct '17 8:03:47 PM DrakeClawfang
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* EvilIsCool: While Kuzco and Pacha aren't without their moments, Yzma and Kronk are '''far''' more entertaining and memorable.
8th Sep '17 7:53:38 PM Mikeyfan93
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** We also have Bob Bergen as Bucky the squirrel, whose only dialogue consists of chattering, not unlike some like ''[[WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes Porky or Tweety]]'' .

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** We also have Bob Bergen as Bucky the squirrel, whose only dialogue consists of chattering, not unlike some like ''[[WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes [[WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes Porky or Tweety]]'' .Tweety]].
8th Sep '17 7:53:07 PM Mikeyfan93
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** We also have Bob Bergen as Bucky the squirrel, whose only dialogue consists of chattering, not unlike some like ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes Porky or Tweety'' .

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** We also have Bob Bergen as Bucky the squirrel, whose only dialogue consists of chattering, not unlike some like ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes ''[[WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes Porky or Tweety'' .Tweety]]'' .
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