History YMMV / TheDarkPhoenixSaga

13th Mar '16 7:09:23 AM bazer63
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** This story became the standard against which all X-Men arcs are judged, and has been retold and revisited in almost every media. Sometimes, it's the only reason a creative team will even put Jean Grey in an X-Men story to begin with. It's been a good decade since the last screen adaptation to not treat it like the only story she was ever in.

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** This story became the standard against which all X-Men arcs are judged, and has been retold and revisited in almost every media. Sometimes, it's the only reason a creative team will even put Jean Grey in an X-Men story to begin with. It's been a good decade since the last screen adaptation to not treat it like the only story she was ever in.in.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Did this for Wolverine.
20th Aug '15 10:14:54 PM Tork
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** This storyline is also generally considered the point that Wolverine started to become the superstar he's become. Specifically, the point where he re-infiltrates the Hellfire Club and takes the Club floor by floor is the turning point where Logan transformed into the badass he is today.
31st Dec '14 5:54:19 PM nombretomado
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* MoralEventHorizon: To Editor-in-Chief JimShooter, Dark Phoenix destroying an inhabited star system counts as this.

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* MoralEventHorizon: To Editor-in-Chief JimShooter, Creator/JimShooter, Dark Phoenix destroying an inhabited star system counts as this.
28th Apr '14 10:12:32 PM EcliptorCalrissian
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**Even more so, at one point, the mysterious Jason Wyngarde, the man who was slowly and carefully setting up the MoreThanMindControl that he hoped would bring the Phoenix under his control, is dramatically revealed as none other than old-school enemy Mastermind. At the time, Mastermind had only been seen as a recurring RoguesGallery member back ''before'' the end of the original 1960s run, and we never saw any hint of his outside life, let alone gotten a civilian name. By now, both names have been used for him for so long that for anyone who ''didn't'' begin with the original sixties run and read in order, the revelation comes off as being told that - spoiler alert! - that "Clark Kent" guy is in fact {{Superman}}.



* NeverLiveItDown: Jean's death in this (and resurrection in a later tale) made her the TropeNamer for "Jean Grey Escalation" before people started proving the point (by [[CompletelyMissingThePoint completely missing it]]), confusing the trope with either DeathIsCheap or WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Jean's death in this (and resurrection in a later tale) made her the TropeNamer for (it was originally called "Jean Grey Escalation" Escalation") before people started proving the point (by [[CompletelyMissingThePoint completely missing it]]), confusing the trope with either DeathIsCheap or WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity.
3rd Mar '14 5:20:12 PM TitoMosquito
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* NeverLiveItDown: Jean's death in this (and resurrection in a later tale) made her the TropeNamer for "JeanGreyEscalation" before people started proving the point (by [[CompletelyMissingThePoint completely missing it]]), confusing the trope with either DeathIsCheap or WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Jean's death in this (and resurrection in a later tale) made her the TropeNamer for "JeanGreyEscalation" "Jean Grey Escalation" before people started proving the point (by [[CompletelyMissingThePoint completely missing it]]), confusing the trope with either DeathIsCheap or WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity.
16th Oct '13 5:31:52 PM PatPayne
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** It's even jarringly out-of-place ''for 1980 altogether'' -- Dazzler had been the product of a failed attempt at cross-promotion with Casablanca Records back in 1977, when Marvel and the record label were going to have a superheroine with both a comic book and a disco LP. This would have made sense in '77, when disco was still a big thing. However, by 1980, when Dazzler finally appeared, disco was, well, DeaderThanDisco. For reasons known but unto the writing and editorial staff at the time, they decided not to change Dazzler's schtick at all. [[FromBadToWorse And then had her, disco-ball necklace, roller-skates, glitter and spandex leotards included, performing at a punk venue.]] [[WretchedHive A punk venue that would have made the old LA semi-legal punk hangout the Masque look like Disney Hall in comparison.]] Much {{Narm}} has been had from this...

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** It's even jarringly out-of-place ''for 1980 altogether'' -- Dazzler had been the product of a failed attempt at cross-promotion with Casablanca Records back in 1977, when Marvel and the record label were going to have a superheroine with both a comic book and a disco LP. This would have made sense in '77, when disco was still a big thing. However, by 1980, when Dazzler finally appeared, disco was, well, DeaderThanDisco. For reasons known but unto the writing and editorial staff at the time, they decided not to change Dazzler's schtick at all. [[FromBadToWorse And then had her, disco-ball necklace, roller-skates, glitter and spandex leotards included, performing at a punk venue.]] [[WretchedHive A punk venue that would have made the old LA semi-legal real-world Los Angeles late-'70s punk hangout the Masque look like Disney Hall in comparison.]] Much {{Narm}} has been had from this...
16th Oct '13 5:29:53 PM PatPayne
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** It's even jarringly out-of-place ''for 1980'' -- Dazzler had been the product of a failed attempt at cross-promotion with Casablanca Records back in 1977, when Marvel and the record label were going to have a superheroine with both a comic book and a disco LP. This would have made sense in '77, when disco was still a big thing. However, by 1980, when Dazzler finally appeared, disco was, well, DeaderThanDisco. For reasons known but unto the writing and editorial staff at the time, they decided not to change Dazzler's schtick at all. [[FromBadToWorse And then had her, disco-ball necklace, roller-skates, glitter and spandex leotards included, performing at a punk venue.]] [[WretchedHive A punk venue that would have made the old LA semi-legal punk hangout the Masque look like Disney Hall in comparison.]] Much {{Narm}} has been had from this...

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** It's even jarringly out-of-place ''for 1980'' 1980 altogether'' -- Dazzler had been the product of a failed attempt at cross-promotion with Casablanca Records back in 1977, when Marvel and the record label were going to have a superheroine with both a comic book and a disco LP. This would have made sense in '77, when disco was still a big thing. However, by 1980, when Dazzler finally appeared, disco was, well, DeaderThanDisco. For reasons known but unto the writing and editorial staff at the time, they decided not to change Dazzler's schtick at all. [[FromBadToWorse And then had her, disco-ball necklace, roller-skates, glitter and spandex leotards included, performing at a punk venue.]] [[WretchedHive A punk venue that would have made the old LA semi-legal punk hangout the Masque look like Disney Hall in comparison.]] Much {{Narm}} has been had from this...
16th Oct '13 5:28:20 PM PatPayne
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** It's even jarringly out-of-place ''for 1980'' -- Dazzler had been the product of a failed attempt at cross-promotion with Casablanca Records back in 1977, when Marvel and the record label were going to have a superheroine with both a comic book and a disco LP. This would have made sense in '77, when disco was still a big thing. However, by 1980, when Dazzler finally appeared, disco was, well, DeaderThanDisco. For reasons known but unto the writing and editorial staff at the time, they decided not to change Dazzler's schtick at all. [[FromBadToWorse And then had her, disco-ball necklace, roller-skates, glitter and spandex leotards included, performing at a punk venue.]] [[WretchedHive A punk venue that would have made the old LA semi-legal punk hangout the Masque look like Disney Hall in comparison.]] Much {{Narm}} has been had from this...
31st Jul '13 6:14:31 AM TrustBen
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** JohnByrne's artistic contributions can't be discounted either. His art was at turns [[SceneryPorn incredibly complex]] and [[TearJerker deeply evocative]]; the book is still held up as a standard for superhero comics today thanks to their collaboration.

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** JohnByrne's Creator/JohnByrne's artistic contributions can't be discounted either. His art was at turns [[SceneryPorn incredibly complex]] and [[TearJerker deeply evocative]]; the book is still held up as a standard for superhero comics today thanks to their collaboration.
12th Jun '13 11:06:16 AM TheMightyHeptagon
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even though Jean's "Black Queen" persona was quickly ditched after this story ended, her [[EvilCostumeSwitch Black Queen costume]] is hugely popular in fan art circles. [[EvilIsSexy I wonder why...]]
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