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** For the film adaption of the book, [[spoiler:many people saw it as a happy ending. However, the ending is actually much more bleak than the book's ending. Jerry still loses to the Vigils by playing into their hands by doing what they wanted him to do. Archie's "comeuppance" seems like a happy ending, but when you pay attention to Obie's "homework" assignments, [[LesserOfTwoEvils you realize he is much more cruel and Archie's assignments were actually not as bad in comparison]].]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Archie's actions at the end of ''Beyond The Chocolate War''. [[spoiler:Before he graduates from Trinity, he manipulates the Vigils to become little more than a violent gang of Drug Dealers, which is strange considering his former leadership. His motivations for doing so are much clearer viewed as a final TakeThat to Brother Leon. Early in the book Brother Leon smugly brags to Archie about how little effect he actually has the school, and threatens to destroy the Vigils if he disrupts the status quo. The finale shows Archie proactively setting up the downfall for both the Vigils and the school.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: FridgeBrilliance:
** Archie's actions at the end of ''Beyond The Chocolate War''. [[spoiler:Before he graduates from Trinity, he manipulates the Vigils to become little more than a violent gang of Drug Dealers, which is strange considering his former leadership. His motivations for doing so are much clearer viewed as a final TakeThat to Brother Leon. Early in the book Brother Leon smugly brags to Archie about how little effect he actually has the school, and threatens to destroy the Vigils if he disrupts the status quo. The finale shows Archie proactively setting up the downfall for both the Vigils and the school.]]
** For the film adaption of the book, [[spoiler:many people saw it as a happy ending. However, the ending is actually much more bleak than the book's ending. Jerry still loses to the Vigils by playing into their hands by doing what they wanted him to do. Archie's "comeuppance" seems like a happy ending, but when you pay attention to Obie's "homework" assignments, [[LesserOfTwoEvils you realize he is much more cruel and Archie's assignments were actually not as bad in comparison]].]]
** Archie's actions at the end of ''Beyond The Chocolate War''. [[spoiler:Before he graduates from Trinity, he manipulates the Vigils to become little more than a violent gang of Drug Dealers, which is strange considering his former leadership. His motivations for doing so are much clearer viewed as a final TakeThat to Brother Leon. Early in the book Brother Leon smugly brags to Archie about how little effect he actually has the school, and threatens to destroy the Vigils if he disrupts the status quo. The finale shows Archie proactively setting up the downfall for both the Vigils and the school.]]
** For the film adaption of the book, [[spoiler:many people saw it as a happy ending. However, the ending is actually much more bleak than the book's ending. Jerry still loses to the Vigils by playing into their hands by doing what they wanted him to do. Archie's "comeuppance" seems like a happy ending, but when you pay attention to Obie's "homework" assignments, [[LesserOfTwoEvils you realize he is much more cruel and Archie's assignments were actually not as bad in comparison]].]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Archie's actions at the end of ''Beyond The Chocolate War''. [[spoiler:Before he graduates from Trinity, he manipulates the Vigils to become little more than a violent gang of Drug Dealers, which is strange considering his former leadership. His motivations for doing so are much clearer viewed as a final TakeThat to Brother Leon. Early in the book Brother Leon smugly brags to Archie about how little effect he actually has the school, and threatens to destroy the Vigils if he disrupts the status quo. The finale shows Archie retroactively setting up the downfall for both the Vigils and the school.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Archie's actions at the end of ''Beyond The Chocolate War''. [[spoiler:Before he graduates from Trinity, he manipulates the Vigils to become little more than a violent gang of Drug Dealers, which is strange considering his former leadership. His motivations for doing so are much clearer viewed as a final TakeThat to Brother Leon. Early in the book Brother Leon smugly brags to Archie about how little effect he actually has the school, and threatens to destroy the Vigils if he disrupts the status quo. The finale shows Archie retroactively proactively setting up the downfall for both the Vigils and the school.]]
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: The first book teaches the world is run by awful, corrupt people who abuse their power because they can. But don't try to buck the system because you'll end up getting hurt, and nothing will meaningfully change anyway. (It's been speculated by some that this was done in response to the "Fight the power!" sixties, seeing as the book was published in 1974.)
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* MagnificentBastard: In the second book, Archie finally draws a black marble and is forced take his own assignment to be "The Fool" on Fair Day. One responsibility involves sitting on a chair of a dunk booth, where his presence and reputation dissuades everyone from even trying. Only one student dares to play and misses Archie on purpose.
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* ValuesDissonance: In the first book, the Vigils get Jerry to fight Janza by accusing him of being gay. Jerry says in the narration: "The worst thing in the world - to be called queer." ''Errr...''
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* ValuesDissonance: In the first book, the Vigils get Jerry to fight Janza by accusing him of being gay. Jerry says in the narration: "The worst thing in the world - to be called queer." ''Errr...''
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: The first book teaches the world is run by awful, corrupt people who abuse their power because they can. But don't try to buck the system and or because you'll end up getting hurt, and nothing will meaningfully change.change anyway. (It's been speculated by some that this was done in response to the "Fight the power!" sixties, seeing as the book was published in 1974.)
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** Slightly mithgated by the fact that the Vigils are clearly supposed to be in the wrong here.
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* ValuesDissonance: In the first book, the Vigils get Jerry to fight Janza by accusing him of being gay. Jerry says in the narration: ''The "The worst thing in the world - to be called queer.'' " ''Errr...''
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Obie and Archie. Jerry is actually the main character of the first book but just look at how much he's mentioned compared to these two.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: The message of the first book is pretty much that the world is run by awful, corrupt people who abuse their power because they can. But don't try to buck the system and or you'll end up getting hurt, and nothing will meaningfully change.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: The message of the first book is pretty much that the world is run by awful, corrupt people who abuse their power because they can. But don't try to buck the system and or you'll end up getting hurt, and nothing will meaningfully change.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Obie and Archie. Jerry is actually the main character of the first book but just look at how much he's mentioned compared to these two.
the narration follows the other two far more often.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Themessage of the first book is pretty much that teaches the world is run by awful, corrupt people who abuse their power because they can. But don't try to buck the system and or you'll end up getting hurt, and nothing will meaningfully change.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Archie's actions at the end of ''Beyond The Chocolate War''; [[spoiler: He manipulates the Vigils to become little more than a violent gang of Drug Dealers. His motivations for doing this makes a lot of sense once you realize this was his final TakeThat to Brother Leon. Early in the book Brother Leon, rather smugly, brags to Archie about how little effect he actually has the school and threatens to destroy the Vigils if he messes with the status quo. The finale showed Archie retroactively setting up the downfall for both the Vigils and the school.]]
* MagnificentBastard: In the second book, Archie finally draws a black marble and is forced take his own assignment to be "the Fool" on Fair Day. One of the things the Fool has to do is sit on a chair while the other students throw water balloons at him. Only one guy dares to do it, and he misses Archie on purpose....
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Henry Malloran gets one in the second book when he throws a tomato into Brother Leon's face before the entire school, and then becomes class president with no opposition.
** However, the biggest Moment of Awesome belongs to Carter, also in the second book - he fills the Assigner's box with four black marbles and one white. When Archie draws a black one for the first time, there is only a shocked silence.
** What where's the fact that in the second book [[spoiler: Jerry stands up to Janza without fighting back. He gets the crap kicked out of him and yet Janza feels winded. Considering throughout the book Janza brings up how sexy he feels after beating someone up, he doesn't feel it after getting Jerry that time who just took it, Jerry essentially won. Also this ties with the fact that instead of running he's going back to the same school.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: Archie crosses it in the end of the first book when he manipulates the whole school into turning against Jerry, even though the chocolate sales are over, and gets Jerry beaten within an inch of his life. In the second book, he gives the overweight Tubs the "assignment" to gain thirty pounds more, and it's even worse because Tubs hates himself for being fat.
** He crosses it over again in the very end, when he (via his proxy Bunting) moves the Vigils towards becoming a violent gang that extorts students and sells drugs, [[spoiler:a move that will ensure the group's eventual demise since it gives the authorities an excuse to shut it down one day. It's a MoralEventHorizon because Archie decides that "if I can't rule the school, then no one will."]]
* MagnificentBastard: In the second book, Archie finally draws a black marble and is forced take his own assignment to be "the Fool" on Fair Day. One of the things the Fool has to do is sit on a chair while the other students throw water balloons at him. Only one guy dares to do it, and he misses Archie on purpose....
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Henry Malloran gets one in the second book when he throws a tomato into Brother Leon's face before the entire school, and then becomes class president with no opposition.
** However, the biggest Moment of Awesome belongs to Carter, also in the second book - he fills the Assigner's box with four black marbles and one white. When Archie draws a black one for the first time, there is only a shocked silence.
** What where's the fact that in the second book [[spoiler: Jerry stands up to Janza without fighting back. He gets the crap kicked out of him and yet Janza feels winded. Considering throughout the book Janza brings up how sexy he feels after beating someone up, he doesn't feel it after getting Jerry that time who just took it, Jerry essentially won. Also this ties with the fact that instead of running he's going back to the same school.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: Archie crosses it in the end of the first book when he manipulates the whole school into turning against Jerry, even though the chocolate sales are over, and gets Jerry beaten within an inch of his life. In the second book, he gives the overweight Tubs the "assignment" to gain thirty pounds more, and it's even worse because Tubs hates himself for being fat.
** He crosses it over again in the very end, when he (via his proxy Bunting) moves the Vigils towards becoming a violent gang that extorts students and sells drugs, [[spoiler:a move that will ensure the group's eventual demise since it gives the authorities an excuse to shut it down one day. It's a MoralEventHorizon because Archie decides that "if I can't rule the school, then no one will."]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Archie's actions at the end of ''Beyond The Chocolate War''; [[spoiler: He War''. [[spoiler:Before he graduates from Trinity, he manipulates the Vigils to become little more than a violent gang of Drug Dealers. Dealers, which is strange considering his former leadership. His motivations for doing this makes so are much clearer viewed as a lot of sense once you realize this was his final TakeThat to Brother Leon. Early in the book Brother Leon, rather smugly, Leon smugly brags to Archie about how little effect he actually has the school school, and threatens to destroy the Vigils if he messes with disrupts the status quo. The finale showed shows Archie retroactively setting up the downfall for both the Vigils and the school.]]
* MagnificentBastard: In the second book, Archie finally draws a black marble and is forced take his own assignment to be"the "The Fool" on Fair Day. One of the things the Fool has to do is sit responsibility involves sitting on a chair while the other students throw water balloons at him. of a dunk booth, where his presence and reputation dissuades everyone from even trying. Only one guy student dares to do it, play and he misses Archie on purpose....
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Henry Malloran gets one in the second book when he throws a tomato into Brother Leon's facebefore in front of the entire school, and then school. He becomes the unanimous class president with no opposition.president.
**However, the biggest Moment of Awesome Another moment belongs to Carter, also in the second book - he fills [[spoiler:he riggs the the Assigner's box with four black marbles and one white. white right under Archie's nose]]. When Archie draws [[spoiler:draws a black one marble for the first time, time]], there is only a shocked silence.
** What where'ssilence. Downplayed when [[spoiler:Archie later admits to knowing about the fact that rigging the entire time]].
** Also in the secondbook [[spoiler: book, Jerry stands [[spoiler:stands up to Janza without fighting back. back]]. He gets the crap kicked out of him and yet Janza feels winded. [[spoiler:Janza gets no satisfaction out of it. Considering throughout the book Janza brings up mentions how sexy horny he feels after gets beating someone up, he doesn't feel it after getting Jerry that time who just took it, Jerry essentially won. Also this ties with the fact that he didn't feel it at all fighting Jerry was a moral victory]]. It also ties into the fact Jerry decides [[spoiler:to go back to the Trinity instead of running he's going back to the same school.]]
away.]] Determinator, indeed.
* MoralEventHorizon: Archie crosses it in the end of the first book when he manipulates the whole school intoturning [[spoiler:turning against Jerry, Jerry]] even though the chocolate sales are over, and gets Jerry beaten within an inch of his life. In the second book, he gives the overweight Tubs the "assignment" to gain thirty pounds more, and it's even worse because Tubs hates himself for being fat.
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** He crosses it overagain ''again'' in the very end, second book, when he (via persuades his proxy Bunting) moves successor Bunting into [[spoiler:moving the Vigils towards becoming a violent gang that extorts students gang, with extortion, drug dealing, and sells drugs, [[spoiler:a move that will ensure outright rebellion the group's eventual demise since it gives the authorities an excuse to shut it down one day. It's a MoralEventHorizon because Archie decides that "if norm. "If I can't rule the school, then no one will."]] "]]
* MagnificentBastard: In the second book, Archie finally draws a black marble and is forced take his own assignment to be
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Henry Malloran gets one in the second book when he throws a tomato into Brother Leon's face
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Obie and Archie. Jerry is actually the main character of the first book but just look at how much he's mentions compared to these two.
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* CompleteMonster: Archie Costello, the unofficial leader of the Vigils. Think [[TheUsualSuspects Keyzer Soze]] as a teenager.
** Laurie in the second book even says that "there's a monster in Trinity, who runs the school like a Mafia and makes the other guys do the grossest things". What makes Archie so terrifying is his cold intelligence, subtlety, and total lack of sympathy for his victims. Janza, on the other hand, is a brutal and stupid tool of the Vigils.
*** Speaking of Janza, he's a BloodKnight in a teenagers body without ''any'' redeeming qualities. In ''The Chocolate War'', he reflects that he [[CombatSadomasochist "gets horny" beating people up.]] This is expounded upon in ''Beyond The Chocolate War''.
** Laurie in the second book even says that "there's a monster in Trinity, who runs the school like a Mafia and makes the other guys do the grossest things". What makes Archie so terrifying is his cold intelligence, subtlety, and total lack of sympathy for his victims. Janza, on the other hand, is a brutal and stupid tool of the Vigils.
*** Speaking of Janza, he's a BloodKnight in a teenagers body without ''any'' redeeming qualities. In ''The Chocolate War'', he reflects that he [[CombatSadomasochist "gets horny" beating people up.]] This is expounded upon in ''Beyond The Chocolate War''.
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*** Speaking of Janza, he's basically a BloodKnight in a teenagers body without ''any'' redeeming qualities. In ''The Chocolate War'', he reflects that he [[CombatSadomasochist "gets horny" beating people up.]] This is expounded upon in ''Beyond The Chocolate War''.
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*** Speaking of Janza, he's basically a BloodKnight in a teenagers body without ''any'' redeeming qualities. In ''The Chocolate War'', he reflects that he [[CombatSadomasochist "gets horny" beating people up.]] This is expounded upon in ''Beyond The Chocolate War''.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Henry Malloran gets one in the second book when he throws a tomato into Brother Leon's face before the entire school, and then becomes class president with no opposition.
** However, the biggest CrowningMomentOfAwesome belongs to Carter, also in the second book - he fills the Assigner's box with four black marbles and one white. When Archie draws a black one for the first time, there is only a shocked silence.
** What where's the fact that in the second book [[spoiler: Jerry stands up to Janza without fighting back. He gets the crap kicked out of him and yet Janza feels winded. Considering throughout the book Janza brings up how sexy he feels after beating someone up, he doesn't feel it after getting Jerry that time who just took it, Jerry essentially won. Also this ties with the fact that instead of running he's going back to the same school.]]
** However, the biggest CrowningMomentOfAwesome belongs to Carter, also in the second book - he fills the Assigner's box with four black marbles and one white. When Archie draws a black one for the first time, there is only a shocked silence.
** What where's the fact that in the second book [[spoiler: Jerry stands up to Janza without fighting back. He gets the crap kicked out of him and yet Janza feels winded. Considering throughout the book Janza brings up how sexy he feels after beating someone up, he doesn't feel it after getting Jerry that time who just took it, Jerry essentially won. Also this ties with the fact that instead of running he's going back to the same school.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Archie's actions at the end of ''Beyond The Chocolate War''; [[spoiler: He manipulates the Vigils to become little more than a violent gang of Drug Dealers. His motivations for doing this makes a lot of sense once you realize this was his final TakeThat to Brother Leon. Early in the book Brother Leon, rather smugly, brags to Archie about how little effect he actually has the school and threatens to destroy the Vigils if he messes with the status quo. The finale showed Archie retroactively setting up the downfall for both the Vigils and the school.]]
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Henry Malloran gets one in the second book when he throws a tomato into Brother Leon's face before the entire school, and then becomes class president with no opposition.
** However, the biggest Moment of Awesome belongs to Carter, also in the second book - he fills the Assigner's box with four black marbles and one white. When Archie draws a black one for the first time, there is only a shocked silence.
** What where's the fact that in the second book [[spoiler: Jerry stands up to Janza without fighting back. He gets the crap kicked out of him and yet Janza feels winded. Considering throughout the book Janza brings up how sexy he feels after beating someone up, he doesn't feel it after getting Jerry that time who just took it, Jerry essentially won. Also this ties with the fact that instead of running he's going back to the same school.]]
** However, the biggest Moment of Awesome belongs to Carter, also in the second book - he fills the Assigner's box with four black marbles and one white. When Archie draws a black one for the first time, there is only a shocked silence.
** What where's the fact that in the second book [[spoiler: Jerry stands up to Janza without fighting back. He gets the crap kicked out of him and yet Janza feels winded. Considering throughout the book Janza brings up how sexy he feels after beating someone up, he doesn't feel it after getting Jerry that time who just took it, Jerry essentially won. Also this ties with the fact that instead of running he's going back to the same school.]]
