History YMMV / TheCatcherInTheRye

7th Apr '18 5:26:18 AM Aquila89
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* TearJerker: Virtually every interaction Holden has with Phoebe. She's concerned about her brother because he keeps hurting himself and she's genuinely concerned for his well-being. When she receives his note, she drops everything because she's so scared of losing her brother and it's ultimately what drives Holden to get his shit together. Mind you, she's only ten and Holden leaving wouldn't be the first time she's lost a brother.

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Virtually every interaction Holden has with Phoebe. She's concerned about her brother because he keeps hurting himself and she's genuinely concerned for his well-being. When she receives his note, she drops everything because she's so scared of losing her brother and it's ultimately what drives Holden to get his shit together. Mind you, she's only ten and Holden leaving wouldn't be the first time she's lost a brother.


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** Holden's recollection about James Castle, a boy in his school who committed suicide by jumping out of a window because of bullying - while wearing a sweater he borrowed from Holden.
--> I heard everybody running through the corridor and down the stairs, so I put on my bathrobe and I ran downstairs too, and there was old James Castle laying right on the stone steps and all. He was dead, and his teeth, and blood, were all over the place and nobody would even go near him. He had on this turtleneck sweater I'd lent him.
1st Apr '18 6:20:52 PM dannylightninglightner
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** Holden talking about his younger brother, then [[MoodWhiplash abruptly stating that he died of leukemia]]. He then says, "You would have liked him."
11th Dec '17 12:57:32 PM Anddrix
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* LoveItOrHateIt: It's either a perfect representation of teenage angst or a pointless book about a whiny annoying little git.
4th Dec '17 10:32:11 AM Pichu-kun
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Holden is either a shining beacon of morality amongst all that was wrong with the 1950s, or a whiny prototype EmoKid (and a rather hypocritical one at that) who refuses to let himself see anything good in the world, or someone who has good insights and potential but is weighed down by cynicism and bitterness, OR just one of the first examples of teenage disillusionment in a post-World War II world. Or you think he's telling you to kill pop-culture icons (see LoonyFan in the Trivia sec). It really depends on the reader.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
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Holden is either a shining beacon of morality amongst all that was wrong with the 1950s, or a whiny prototype EmoKid (and a rather hypocritical one at that) who refuses to let himself see anything good in the world, or someone who has good insights and potential but is weighed down by cynicism and bitterness, OR just one of the first examples of teenage disillusionment in a post-World War II world. Or you think he's telling you to kill pop-culture icons (see LoonyFan in the Trivia sec). It really depends on the reader.



* HilariousInHindsight: Why is this book so frequently banned? Because it uses the word "Fuck"- during a scene in which Holden, discovering it scribbled where grade-schoolers can see it, tries to scrub it out so it can never offend anyone again. Considering how much Holden swears BEYOND "fuck," this is somewhat justified. However, this does miss the point, considering how iconic the book is.
** The underage protagonist spending the entire novel smoking, drinking (when he can get served), hiring a prostitute (though he doesn't actually sleep with her), having a generally negative attitude AFTER being kicked out of school might also have something to do with why people ban it...

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* HilariousInHindsight: Why is this book so frequently banned? Because it uses the word "Fuck"- during a scene in which Holden, discovering it scribbled where grade-schoolers can see it, tries to scrub it out so it can never offend anyone again. Considering how much Holden swears BEYOND "fuck," this is somewhat justified. However, this does miss the point, considering how iconic the book is.
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is. The underage protagonist spending the entire novel smoking, drinking (when he can get served), hiring a prostitute (though he doesn't actually sleep with her), having a generally negative attitude AFTER being kicked out of school might also have something to do with why people ban it...



* MemeticMutation: Holden Caulfield thinks you're a phony. It's on t-shirts.

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* MemeticMutation: Holden Caulfield thinks you're a phony. It's on t-shirts. Just Holden's usage of "phony" all the time is memetic.



** Catcher in the Rye is uncontroversial by today's standards. See the LoonyFan entry in the Trivia section for what helped fuel an undeserved reputation as a dark and controversial book.
** Its current 'tame' status was referenced in a recent episode of WesternAnimation/SouthPark, where the boys, disappointed by the book's content, try to write the most disgusting story imaginable.

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** ''The Catcher in the Rye Rye'' is uncontroversial by today's standards. See the LoonyFan entry in the Trivia section for what helped fuel an undeserved reputation as a dark and controversial book.
** Its current 'tame' status was referenced in a recent an episode of WesternAnimation/SouthPark, ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', where the boys, disappointed by the book's content, try to write the most disgusting story imaginable.
16th Jul '17 11:39:06 AM Angeldeb82
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** The underage protagonist spending the entire novel smoking, drinking (when he can get served), hiring a prostitute (though he doesn't actually sleep with her), having a generally negative attitude AFTER being kicked out of school might also have something to do with why people ban it ...

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** The underage protagonist spending the entire novel smoking, drinking (when he can get served), hiring a prostitute (though he doesn't actually sleep with her), having a generally negative attitude AFTER being kicked out of school might also have something to do with why people ban it ...it...



** In the '50s, Holden Caulfield probably was a great character, just for being so ''[[DarkerAndEdgier different]]'' from other literary protagonists of the time. Today... not so much. Considering that so many characters are like him nowadays, he [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation can sometimes come off as the]] UrExample of a JerkassStu.

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** In the '50s, Holden Caulfield probably was a great character, just for being so ''[[DarkerAndEdgier different]]'' ''{{d|arkerAndEdgier}}ifferent'' from other literary protagonists of the time. Today... not so much. Considering that so many characters are like him nowadays, he [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation can sometimes come off as the]] UrExample of a JerkassStu.Jerkass Stu.



* {{Tearjerker}}: Virtually every interaction Holden has with Phoebe. She's concerned about her brother because he keeps hurting himself and she's genuinely concerned for his well-being. When she receives his note, she drops everything because she's so scared of losing her brother and it's ultimately what drives Holden to get his shit together. Mind you, she's only ten and Holden leaving wouldn't be the first time she's lost a brother.

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* {{Tearjerker}}: TearJerker: Virtually every interaction Holden has with Phoebe. She's concerned about her brother because he keeps hurting himself and she's genuinely concerned for his well-being. When she receives his note, she drops everything because she's so scared of losing her brother and it's ultimately what drives Holden to get his shit together. Mind you, she's only ten and Holden leaving wouldn't be the first time she's lost a brother.
16th Jun '17 8:00:15 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* {{Tearjerker}}: Virtually every interaction he has with Phoebe. She's concerned about her brother because he keeps hurting himself and she's genuinely concerned for his well-being. When she receives his note, she drops everything because she's so scared of losing her brother and it's ultimately what drives Holden to get his shit together. Mind you, she's only ten and Holden leaving wouldn't be the first time she's lost a brother.

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* {{Tearjerker}}: Virtually every interaction he Holden has with Phoebe. She's concerned about her brother because he keeps hurting himself and she's genuinely concerned for his well-being. When she receives his note, she drops everything because she's so scared of losing her brother and it's ultimately what drives Holden to get his shit together. Mind you, she's only ten and Holden leaving wouldn't be the first time she's lost a brother.
8th May '17 3:23:48 PM dannylightninglightner
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** Holden is either a spoiled brat, or a young person realistically acting out because of the grief of his younger brother dying.
11th Feb '17 7:18:32 PM Benbeasted
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* {{Tearjerker}}: Virtually every interaction he has with Phoebe. She's concerned about her brother because he keeps hurting himself and she's genuinely concerned for his well-being. When she receives his note, she drops everything because she's so scared of losing her brother and it's ultimately what drives Holden to get his shit together. Mind you, she's only ten and Holden leaving wouldn't be the first time she's lost a brother.
1st Dec '16 5:50:50 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** The underage protagonist spending the entire novel smoking, drinking (when he can get served), hiring a prostitute, having a generally negative attitude AFTER being kicked out of school might also have something to do with why people ban it ...

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** The underage protagonist spending the entire novel smoking, drinking (when he can get served), hiring a prostitute, prostitute (though he doesn't actually sleep with her), having a generally negative attitude AFTER being kicked out of school might also have something to do with why people ban it ...
16th Sep '16 6:19:51 AM k410ren
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Holden is either a shining beacon of morality amongst all that was wrong with the 1950s, or a whiny prototype EmoKid who refuses to let himself see anything good in the world, or someone who has good insights and potential but is weighed down by cynicism and bitterness, OR just one of the first examples of teenage disillusionment in a post-World War II world. Or you think he's telling you to kill pop-culture icons (see LoonyFan in the Trivia sec). It really depends on the reader.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Holden is either a shining beacon of morality amongst all that was wrong with the 1950s, or a whiny prototype EmoKid (and a rather hypocritical one at that) who refuses to let himself see anything good in the world, or someone who has good insights and potential but is weighed down by cynicism and bitterness, OR just one of the first examples of teenage disillusionment in a post-World War II world. Or you think he's telling you to kill pop-culture icons (see LoonyFan in the Trivia sec). It really depends on the reader.
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