History YMMV / TheCaineMutiny

* ValuesDissonance: For obvious reasons, given it's set during WWII and written/filmed not long after, and apparently {{there are no therapists}} in the Navy. It's quite likely that supporting Queeg by serving under him faithfully, as Greenwald claims, would've just enabled his mental illness, and the best thing they could've done for him would've been to try to secretly voice their concerns to brass before the typhoon, when he hadn't yet been implicated in endangering the crew. Even though it could've still led to him being humiliated by getting declared unequipped for active duty, there's a chance his then-exemplary record could've played a factor in his handling; he'd have been bumped down to a quieter, less demanding position that was still more dignified than the supply depot, and would've saved him some0 face.

** As Barney Greenwald's famous speech towards the mutineers is in defense of the above, he can easily come across as an ignorant, moralizing jerkass to some viewers. This varies between adaptations with Queeg, and also for a reason separate from Queeg. In the play, also written by Wouk, Greenwald gives his speech with one interesting difference. After hitting the main points, he emphasizes that, at the end of the day, Keefer’s contribution to his country amounts to taking a ship out of commission during the hottest part of the Pacific War.

* Queeg himself. His long history of service comes as a bit of an Informed Attribute compared to the incompetence he demonstrates in the story, which makes it harder to accept Greenwald's claim that he was a good officer who was on duty for too long, who'd selflessly defended the nation while the younger officers went about their own lives. There is also a big difference between book and movie. The movie tried to present him as a broken-down man in a losing battle with own demons, shown by his (half-assed) plea for help, and sane enough to see how crazy he looked after a couple seconds of rambling. It’s also implied that [[ShellShockedVeteran hard Atlantic service]] had something to do with it. There’s none of that in the book, where he was substantially more disturbed, ranting for ten minutes without self-awareness and never seeing himself as anything other than a model officer. There also substantially more incompetence, cowardice, and petty tyranny.
* As Barney Greenwald's famous speech towards the mutineers is in defense of the above, he can easily come across as an ignorant, moralizing jerkass to some viewers. This varies between adaptations with Queeg, and also for a reason separate from Queeg. In the play, also written by Wouk, Greenwald gives his speech with one interesting difference. After hitting the main points, he emphasizes that, at the end of the day, Keefer’s contribution to his country amounts to taking a ship out of commission during the hottest part of the Pacific War.
* ValuesDissonance: For obvious reasons, given it's set during WWII and written/filmed not long after, and apparently {{there are no therapists}} in the Navy. It's quite likely that supporting Queeg by serving under him faithfully, as Greenwald claims, would've just enabled his mental illness, and the best thing they could've done for him would've been to try to secretly voice their concerns to brass before the typhoon, when he hadn't yet been implicated in endangering the crew. Even though it could've still led to him being humiliated by getting declared unequipped for active duty, there's a chance his then-exemplary record could've played a factor in his handling; he'd have been bumped down to a quieter, less demanding position that was still more dignified than the supply depot, and would've saved him some face.

** Complementary to the above, Barney Greenwald can easily come across as an ignorant, moralizing jerkass to some viewers.
** Somewhat related to the above, Queeg himself. His long history of service comes as a bit of an InformedAttribute compared to the incompetence he demonstrates in the story, which makes it harder to accept Greenwald's claim that he was a good officer who was on duty for too long, who'd selflessly defended the nation while the younger officers went about their own lives.

** In the book, Stilwell, who Queeg treats as his own personal whipping boy.

** Complimentary to the above, Barney Greenwald can easily come across as an ignorant, moralizing jerkass to some viewers.

* ValuesDissonance: For obvious reasons, given it's set during WWII and written/filmed not long after, and apparently {{there are no therapists}} in the Navy. It's quite likely that supporting Queeg by serving under him faithfully, as Greenwald claims, would've just enabled his mental illness, and the best thing they could've done for him would've been to try to secretly voice their concerns to brass before the typhoon, when he hadn't yet been implicated in endangering the crew. Even though it could've still led to him being humiliated by getting declared unfit for duty, there's a chance his then-exemplary record could've played a factor in his handling, and gotten him bumped down to a quieter, less demanding position that would've saved him some face.

* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The last act of [=DeVriess=] as captain of the ''Caine''. He's just about to depart for civilian life, when Meatball presents him with a silver wristwatch on behalf of the crew for his years of service and command; he gruffly scolds them for it, claiming it's against protocol, and leaves it behind on the railing. [[HiddenHeartOfGold After he walks onto the gangplank, now a fully decommissioned civvie, he reaches back and takes it]]. The act leaves everyone save Keith close to tears.

* ValuesDissonance: For obvious reasons, given it's set during WWII and written/filmed not long after. It's quite likely that supporting Queeg by serving under him faithfully, as Greenwald claims, would've just enabled his mental illness, and the best thing they could've done for him would've been to try to voice their concerns to brass before the typhoon, where he hadn't yet been implicated in endangering the crew. Even though it could've still led to him being humiliated by getting declared unfit for duty, there's a chance his then-exemplary record could've played a factor in his handling, and gotten him bumped down to a quieter, less demanding position that would've saved him some face.

* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The last act of [=DeVriess=] as captain of the ''Caine''. He's just about to depart for civilian life, when Meatball presents him with a silver wristwatch on behalf of the crew for his years of service and command; he gruffly scolds them for it, claiming it's against protocol, and leaves it behind on the railing. [[HiddenHeartOfGold After he walks onto the gangplank, now officially decommissioned, he reaches back and takes it]]. The act leaves everyone save Keith close to tears.

'''[=DeVriess=]:''' Make it 10:30. I'll always keep it a half hour slow... [to] remind me of the fouled-up crew of the Caine.

** In the book, Dr. Keith's last letter to Willie, telling him he's dying, that he hopes the Navy will have positive impact on Willie, and imploring him to "be a man". By the time Willie reads it and telegrams home for news, his father has died.

* CriticalResearchFailure: During the court-martial, the prosecuting attorney tries to discredit the claim that Queeg is mentally unstable by getting people to admit that he had never raved and foamed at the mouth. Nobody, not even the psychologist brought in as expert witness, thinks to point out that paranoiacs, which is what Queeg is accused of being, don't do things like that.