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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Is Jaina a courageous heroine who overcomes severe setbacks and gains confidence in herself as she forges her own path in the face of adversity and unexpected twists and turns? Or is she a frightened, naive young woman who hardly knows what she's doing and lets herself be swayed by forces and influences beyond her control?
** The Zarosian desert bandits. Does their poverty and struggle to barely eke out a living in a harsh environment make them sympathetic? Or do they take things too far in their hostility to outsiders?

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* AdaptationalHeroism: Azzanadra falls under this trope to a degree, as he shows much more tenderness and affection towards Jaina than he does in canon thanks to being PromotedToLoveInterest. However, he does sternly disagree with her occasionally and show his harsher side from time to time, and retains his UndyingLoyalty to Zaros and his disgust for the Zamorakians. He even [[UnstoppableRage violently shatters an ice sculpture of Sliske when he loses his temper,]] which outright frightens Jaina out of the temple.
** This isn’t so much the case for Zaros, as it is that he so rarely appears onscreen directly and Jaina simply doesn’t see the more negative aspects of his character that have been presented in canon. Seren tries to convince her of his personality flaws, but all Jaina sees in the memory shown to her is Zaros wanting to break free of his enslavement to Mah. [[spoiler: While Zaros has seemingly acted concerned for the lives of the twins, he is likely to simply be invested in their health and survival because of the potential they have as Mahjarrat-human hybrids, rather than out of caring for them on an emotional level.]]
*** WordOfGod says that Zaros rarely appears onscreen in order to preserve his aura of mystery.
* AdaptationalVillainy: Patsy, the herald of Lumbridge. She has a grudge against Jaina for [[DisproportionateRetribution blasting her with a magic spell]] back in their childhood days, and believes she's a coward for refusing to fight for Saradomin in the Battle of Lumbridge. In game, she's [[GenkiGirl bright and chipper when talked to]] and sells a cosmetic cape.
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** Azra and Dastan become this when you consider Azzanadra's reaction to Moia (another Mahjarrat-human hybrid) in canon, as seen in Sliske's Endgame. Namely, being horrified and repulsed when he learns of her heritage, declaring her an abomination and believing she should be killed.

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** [[spoiler: Azra and Dastan become this when you consider Azzanadra's reaction to Moia (another Mahjarrat-human hybrid) in canon, as seen in Sliske's Endgame. Namely, being horrified and repulsed when he learns of her heritage, declaring her an abomination and believing she should be killed.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: In "Growing Pains," Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest [[http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kindred_Spirits Kindred Spirits]] was released, which has a scene where Sliske [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown violently beats]] [[spoiler: [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]]]] in a fit of rage.
* HilariousInHindsight: Azra and Dastan become this when you consider Azzanadra's reaction to Moia (another Mahjarrat-human hybrid) in canon, as seen in Sliske's Endgame. Namely, being horrified and repulsed when he learns of her heritage, declaring her an abomination and believing she should be killed.

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"Growing Pains," Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest [[http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kindred_Spirits Kindred Spirits]] was released, which has a scene where Sliske [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown violently beats]] [[spoiler: [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]]]] in a fit of rage.
* HilariousInHindsight: Azra **Azra and Dastan become this when you consider Azzanadra's reaction to Moia (another Mahjarrat-human hybrid) in canon, as seen in Sliske's Endgame. Namely, being horrified and repulsed when he learns of her heritage, declaring her an abomination and believing she should be killed.
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*HilariousInHindsight: Azra and Dastan become this when you consider Azzanadra's reaction to Moia (another Mahjarrat-human hybrid) in canon, as seen in Sliske's Endgame. Namely, being horrified and repulsed when he learns of her heritage, declaring her an abomination and believing she should be killed.
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** Does Azzanadra's grief for his daughter's death make him sympathetic, because he's [[TheWoobie a father who lost his only living child?]] Or did Shyvana have her fate coming because of the Mahjarrat choosing to defect to Zaros and thus breaking their pact with Icthlarin?

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** The Zarosian desert bandits. Does Azzanadra's grief for his daughter's death make him sympathetic, because he's [[TheWoobie their poverty and struggle to barely eke out a father who lost his only living child?]] in a harsh environment make them sympathetic? Or did Shyvana have her fate coming because of the Mahjarrat choosing to defect to Zaros and thus breaking do they take things too far in their pact with Icthlarin?hostility to outsiders?
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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''Growing Pains,'' Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest [[http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kindred_Spirits Kindred Spirits]] was released, which has a scene where Sliske [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown violently beats]] [[spoiler: [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]]]] in a fit of rage.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Xenia in ''Gathering Secrets'' suggests that Jaina [[spoiler: better find someone to give her a TraumaticCSection and prepare for a DeathByChildbirth.]] Meanwhile, the readers don’t believe for one second that [[spoiler: the main character will be killed off.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''Growing Pains,'' "Growing Pains," Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest [[http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kindred_Spirits Kindred Spirits]] was released, which has a scene where Sliske [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown violently beats]] [[spoiler: [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]]]] in a fit of rage.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Xenia in ''Gathering Secrets'' "Gathering Secrets" suggests that Jaina [[spoiler: better find someone to give her a TraumaticCSection and prepare for a DeathByChildbirth.]] Meanwhile, the readers don’t believe for one second that [[spoiler: the main character will be killed off.]]



** ''Culture Shock'' and ''Waiting for the Lord’s Return'' both contain [[InterspeciesRomance onscreen]] [[BizarreAlienBiology love]] [[{{Lemon}} scenes,]] which may not be to everyone’s taste. However, most of the [[ExoticEquipment potentially squickier details]] are glossed over and/or not delved into too greatly.

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** ''Culture Shock'' "Culture Shock" and ''Waiting "Waiting for the Lord’s Return'' Return" both contain [[InterspeciesRomance onscreen]] [[BizarreAlienBiology love]] [[{{Lemon}} scenes,]] which may not be to everyone’s taste. However, most of the [[ExoticEquipment potentially squickier details]] are glossed over and/or not delved into too greatly.
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** Does Azzanadra's grief for his daughter's death make him sympathetic, because he's a father who lost his only living child? Or did Shyvana have her fate coming because of the Mahjarrat choosing to defect to Zaros and thus breaking their pact with Icthlarin?

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** Does Azzanadra's grief for his daughter's death make him sympathetic, because he's [[TheWoobie a father who lost his only living child? child?]] Or did Shyvana have her fate coming because of the Mahjarrat choosing to defect to Zaros and thus breaking their pact with Icthlarin?
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* GrowingTheBeard: The later stories in the series are a noticeable improvement over the older ones, generally being more creative and having more natural writing.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Is Jaina a courageous heroine who overcomes severe setbacks and gains confidence in herself as she forges her own path in the face of adversity and unexpected twists and turns? Or is she a frightened, naive young woman who lets herself be swayed by forces and influences beyond her control?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Is Jaina a courageous heroine who overcomes severe setbacks and gains confidence in herself as she forges her own path in the face of adversity and unexpected twists and turns? Or is she a frightened, naive young woman who hardly knows what she's doing and lets herself be swayed by forces and influences beyond her control?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Does Azzanadra's grief for his daughter's death make him sympathetic, because he's a father who lost his only living child? Or did Shyvana have her fate coming because of the Mahjarrat choosing to defect to Zaros and thus breaking their pact with Icthlarin?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Is Jaina a courageous heroine who overcomes severe setbacks and gains confidence in herself as she forges her own path in the face of adversity and unexpected twists and turns? Or is she a frightened, naive young woman who lets herself be swayed by forces and influences beyond her control?
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Does Azzanadra's grief for his daughter's death make him sympathetic, because he's a father who lost his only living child? Or did Shyvana have her fate coming because of the Mahjarrat choosing to defect to Zaros and thus breaking their pact with Icthlarin?
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Does Azzanadra's grief for his daughter's death make him sympathetic, because he's a father who lost his only living child? Or did Shyvana have her fate coming because of the Mahjarrat choosing to defect to Zaros and thus breaking their pact with Icthlarin?

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** ''Culture Shock'' and ''Waiting for the Lord’s Return'' both contain [[InterspeciesRomance onscreen]] [[BizarreAlienBiology love]] [[{{Lemon}} scenes,]] which may not be to everyone’s taste. However, most of the [[ExoticEquipment potentially squickier details]] are glossed over and/or not delved into too greatly.

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** ''Culture Shock'' and ''Waiting for the Lord’s Return'' both contain [[InterspeciesRomance onscreen]] [[BizarreAlienBiology love]] [[{{Lemon}} scenes,]] which may not be to everyone’s taste. However, most of the [[ExoticEquipment potentially squickier details]] are glossed over and/or not delved into too greatly.greatly.
* TookALevelInJerkass: Zamorak (and by extension Moia) resorting to kidnapping and [[WouldHurtAChild possible child murder]] to coerce Jaina to go along with the Stone heist. (Canonically, the PlayerCharacter simply willingly agrees regardless of alignment.)
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* AdaptationalVillainy: Patsy, the herald of Lumbridge. She has a grudge against Jaina for [[DisproportionateRetribution blasting her with a magic spell]] back in their childhood days, and believes she's a coward for refusing to fight for Saradomin in the Battle of Lumbridge. In game, she's bright and chipper when talked to and sells a cosmetic cape.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: Patsy, the herald of Lumbridge. She has a grudge against Jaina for [[DisproportionateRetribution blasting her with a magic spell]] back in their childhood days, and believes she's a coward for refusing to fight for Saradomin in the Battle of Lumbridge. In game, she's [[GenkiGirl bright and chipper when talked to to]] and sells a cosmetic cape.
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* AdaptationalHeroism: This isn’t so much the case for Zaros, as it is that he so rarely appears onscreen directly and Jaina simply doesn’t see the more negative aspects of his character that have been presented in canon. Seren tries to convince her of his personality flaws, but all Jaina sees in the memory shown to her is Zaros wanting to break free of his enslavement to Mah. [[spoiler: While Zaros has seemingly acted concerned for the lives of the twins, he is likely to simply be invested in their health and survival because of the potential they have as Mahjarrat-human hybrids, rather than out of caring for them on an emotional level.]]
** WordOfGod says that Zaros rarely appears onscreen in order to preserve his aura of mystery.
** Azzanadra can be considered as falling under this trope to a degree, as he shows much more tenderness and affection towards Jaina than he does in canon thanks to being PromotedToLoveInterest. However, he does still show his harsher side from time to time and retains his UndyingLoyalty to Zaros and his disgust for the Zamorakians, and even [[UnstoppableRage violently shatters an ice sculpture of Sliske when he loses his temper,]] which outright frightens Jaina out of the temple.

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* AdaptationalHeroism: Azzanadra falls under this trope to a degree, as he shows much more tenderness and affection towards Jaina than he does in canon thanks to being PromotedToLoveInterest. However, he does sternly disagree with her occasionally and show his harsher side from time to time, and retains his UndyingLoyalty to Zaros and his disgust for the Zamorakians. He even [[UnstoppableRage violently shatters an ice sculpture of Sliske when he loses his temper,]] which outright frightens Jaina out of the temple.
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This isn’t so much the case for Zaros, as it is that he so rarely appears onscreen directly and Jaina simply doesn’t see the more negative aspects of his character that have been presented in canon. Seren tries to convince her of his personality flaws, but all Jaina sees in the memory shown to her is Zaros wanting to break free of his enslavement to Mah. [[spoiler: While Zaros has seemingly acted concerned for the lives of the twins, he is likely to simply be invested in their health and survival because of the potential they have as Mahjarrat-human hybrids, rather than out of caring for them on an emotional level.]]
** *** WordOfGod says that Zaros rarely appears onscreen in order to preserve his aura of mystery.
** Azzanadra can be considered as falling under this trope to a degree, as he shows much more tenderness and affection towards Jaina than he does in canon thanks to being PromotedToLoveInterest. However, he does still show his harsher side from time to time and retains his UndyingLoyalty to Zaros and his disgust for the Zamorakians, and even [[UnstoppableRage violently shatters an ice sculpture of Sliske when he loses his temper,]] which outright frightens Jaina out of the temple.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: Patsy, the herald of Lumbridge. She has a grudge against Jaina for [[DisproportionateRetribution blasting her with a magic spell]] back in their childhood days, and believes she's a coward for refusing to fight for Saradomin in the Battle of Lumbridge. Canonically, she's bright and chipper when talked to and sells a cosmetic cape.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: Patsy, the herald of Lumbridge. She has a grudge against Jaina for [[DisproportionateRetribution blasting her with a magic spell]] back in their childhood days, and believes she's a coward for refusing to fight for Saradomin in the Battle of Lumbridge. Canonically, In game, she's bright and chipper when talked to and sells a cosmetic cape.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: Patsy, the herald of Lumbridge. She has a grudge against Jaina for [[DisproportionateRetribution blasting her with a magic spell]] back in their childhood days, and believes she's a coward for refusing to fight for Saradomin in the Battle of Lumbridge. Canonically, she's bright and chipper when talked to and sells a cosmetic cape.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Xenia in ''Gathering Secrets'' suggests that Jaina [[spoiler: better find someone to give her a TraumaticCSection and prepare for a DeathByChildbirth.]] Meanwhile, the readers don’t believe for one second that the main character will [[spoiler: be killed off.]]

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Xenia in ''Gathering Secrets'' suggests that Jaina [[spoiler: better find someone to give her a TraumaticCSection and prepare for a DeathByChildbirth.]] Meanwhile, the readers don’t believe for one second that [[spoiler: the main character will [[spoiler: be killed off.]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''Growing Pains,'' Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest [[http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kindred_Spirits Kindred Spirits] was released, which has a scene where Sliske [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown violently beats]] [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]] in a fit of rage.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''Growing Pains,'' Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest [[http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kindred_Spirits Kindred Spirits] Spirits]] was released, which has a scene where Sliske [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown violently beats]] [[spoiler: [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]] Guardian]]]] in a fit of rage.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''Growing Pains,'' Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest ''Kindred Spirits'' was released, which has a scene where Sliske [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown violently beats]] [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]] in a fit of rage.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''Growing Pains,'' Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest ''Kindred Spirits'' [[http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kindred_Spirits Kindred Spirits] was released, which has a scene where Sliske [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown violently beats]] [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]] in a fit of rage.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''Growing Pains,'' Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest ''Kindred Spirits'' was released, which has a scene where Sliske violently beats [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]] in a fit of rage.

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* HarsherInHindsight: In ''Growing Pains,'' Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest ''Kindred Spirits'' was released, which has a scene where Sliske [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown violently beats beats]] [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]] in a fit of rage.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In “Growing Pains,” Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest “Kindred Spirits” was released, which has a scene where Sliske violently beats [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]] in a fit of rage.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Xenia in “Gathering Secrets” suggests that Jaina [[spoiler: had better prepare for a DeathByChildbirth.]] Meanwhile, the readers don’t believe for one second that the main character will [[spoiler: be killed off.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: In “Growing Pains,” ''Growing Pains,'' Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest “Kindred Spirits” ''Kindred Spirits'' was released, which has a scene where Sliske violently beats [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]] in a fit of rage.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Xenia in “Gathering Secrets” ''Gathering Secrets'' suggests that Jaina [[spoiler: had better find someone to give her a TraumaticCSection and prepare for a DeathByChildbirth.]] Meanwhile, the readers don’t believe for one second that the main character will [[spoiler: be killed off.]]



* Squick: The forced attraction that Zaros and Seren have in one another’s presence. Jaina finds it horrifying, and even pities Zaros for how he’s forced to love his sister.
** “Culture Shock” and “Waiting for the Lord’s Return” both contain [[InterspeciesRomance onscreen]] [[BizarreAlienBiology love]] [[{{Lemon}} scenes,]] which may not be to everyone’s taste. However, most of the [[ExoticEquipment potentially squickier details]] are glossed over and/or not delved into too greatly.

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* Squick: {{Squick}}: The forced attraction that Zaros and Seren have in one another’s presence. Jaina finds it horrifying, and even pities Zaros for how he’s forced to love his sister.
** “Culture Shock” ''Culture Shock'' and “Waiting ''Waiting for the Lord’s Return” Return'' both contain [[InterspeciesRomance onscreen]] [[BizarreAlienBiology love]] [[{{Lemon}} scenes,]] which may not be to everyone’s taste. However, most of the [[ExoticEquipment potentially squickier details]] are glossed over and/or not delved into too greatly.

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* [[spoiler: FridgeHorror: Sliske's experiment. Jaina was unconscious and at his mercy the whole time, and he not only infused her with the residual energies of a dead god, he also cut her open to implant some kind of magical object to keep it from dissipating. He may have acknowledged that RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, but just what ''else'' might he have done to her?]]



** “Culture Shock” and “Waiting for the Lord’s Return” both contain [[InterspeciesRomance onscreen]] [[BizarreAlienBiology love]] [[{{Lemon}} scenes,]] which may not be to everyone’s taste. However, most of the [[ExoticEquipment potentially squickier details]] are glossed over and/or not delved into too greatly.
** [[spoiler: Sliske's experiment. Jaina was unconscious and at his mercy the whole time--he may have acknowledged that RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, but just what ''else'' might he have done to her?]]

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** “Culture Shock” and “Waiting for the Lord’s Return” both contain [[InterspeciesRomance onscreen]] [[BizarreAlienBiology love]] [[{{Lemon}} scenes,]] which may not be to everyone’s taste. However, most of the [[ExoticEquipment potentially squickier details]] are glossed over and/or not delved into too greatly.
** [[spoiler: Sliske's experiment. Jaina was unconscious and at his mercy the whole time--he may have acknowledged that RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, but just what ''else'' might he have done to her?]]
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** The possibility that Sliske might have been lying [[spoiler: about not having committed rape during his experiment. WordOfGod says he did not, and it’s confirmed multiple times in-story that Azzanadra is the twins’ father, but the experiment itself--and Sliske’s obsession with Jaina and the twins--still qualifies as pretty solid horror, and there are more than a few things he could possibly have done to Jaina while she was unconscious besides rape.]]

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** The possibility that Sliske might have been lying [[spoiler: about not having committed rape during his Sliske's experiment. WordOfGod says he did not, and it’s confirmed multiple times in-story that Azzanadra is the twins’ father, but the experiment itself--and Sliske’s obsession with Jaina and the twins--still qualifies as pretty solid horror, and there are more than a few things he could possibly have done to Jaina while she was unconscious besides rape.]]and at his mercy the whole time--he may have acknowledged that RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, but just what ''else'' might he have done to her?]]
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** The possibility that Sliske might have been lying [[spoiler: about not having committed rape during his experiment. WordOfGod says he did not, and it’s confirmed multiple times in-story that Azzanadra is the twins’ father, but the experiment itself--and Sliske’s obsession with the twins--still qualifies as pretty solid horror, and there are more than a few things he could possibly have done to Jaina while she was unconscious besides rape.]]

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** The possibility that Sliske might have been lying [[spoiler: about not having committed rape during his experiment. WordOfGod says he did not, and it’s confirmed multiple times in-story that Azzanadra is the twins’ father, but the experiment itself--and Sliske’s obsession with Jaina and the twins--still qualifies as pretty solid horror, and there are more than a few things he could possibly have done to Jaina while she was unconscious besides rape.]]
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** The implication that Sliske might have been lying [[spoiler: about not having committed rape during his experiment. WordOfGod says he did not, and it’s confirmed multiple times in-story that Azzanadra is the twins’ father, but the experiment itself--and Sliske’s obsession with the twins--still qualifies as pretty solid horror, and there are more than a few things he could possibly have done to Jaina while she was unconscious besides rape.]]

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** The implication possibility that Sliske might have been lying [[spoiler: about not having committed rape during his experiment. WordOfGod says he did not, and it’s confirmed multiple times in-story that Azzanadra is the twins’ father, but the experiment itself--and Sliske’s obsession with the twins--still qualifies as pretty solid horror, and there are more than a few things he could possibly have done to Jaina while she was unconscious besides rape.]]
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Xenia in “Gathering Secrets” suggests that Jaina [[spoiler: had better prepare for a DeathByChildbirth.]] Meanwhile, the readers don’t believe for one second that the main character will be killed off.
** In-universe, Sir Owen even says that he’s sure that Zaros will intervene and keep her alive for whatever “nefarious plans” he may have for her.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Xenia in “Gathering Secrets” suggests that Jaina [[spoiler: had better prepare for a DeathByChildbirth.]] Meanwhile, the readers don’t believe for one second that the main character will [[spoiler: be killed off.
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** In-universe, Sir Owen even says that he’s sure that Zaros will intervene and [[spoiler: keep her alive for whatever “nefarious plans” he may have for her. her.]]
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Xenia in “Gathering Secrets” suggests that Jaina better prepare for a DeathByChildbirth. Meanwhile the readers don’t believe for one second that the main character will be killed off.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Xenia in “Gathering Secrets” suggests that Jaina [[spoiler: had better prepare for a DeathByChildbirth. Meanwhile DeathByChildbirth.]] Meanwhile, the readers don’t believe for one second that the main character will be killed off.
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* AdaptationalHeroism: This isn’t so much the case for Zaros, as it is that he so rarely appears onscreen directly and Jaina simply doesn’t see the more negative aspects of his character that have been presented in canon. Seren tries to convince her of his personality flaws, but all Jaina sees in the memory shown to her is Zaros wanting to break free of his enslavement to Mah. [[spoiler: While Zaros has seemingly acted concerned for the lives of the twins, he is likely to simply be invested in their health and survival because of the potential they have as Mahjarrat-human hybrids, rather than out of caring for them on an emotional level.]]
** WordOfGod says that Zaros rarely appears onscreen in order to preserve his aura of mystery.
** Azzanadra can be considered as falling under this trope to a degree, as he shows much more tenderness and affection towards Jaina than he does in canon thanks to being PromotedToLoveInterest. However, he does still show his harsher side from time to time and retains his UndyingLoyalty to Zaros and his disgust for the Zamorakians, and even [[UnstoppableRage violently shatters an ice sculpture of Sliske when he loses his temper,]] which outright frightens Jaina out of the temple.
* HarsherInHindsight: In “Growing Pains,” Sliske physically attacks Jaina in a fit of anger [[spoiler: for saying she doesn’t ever want him near her children.]] Several months after the time the fic was written, the quest “Kindred Spirits” was released, which has a scene where Sliske violently beats [[PlayerCharacter the World Guardian]] in a fit of rage.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Xenia in “Gathering Secrets” suggests that Jaina better prepare for a DeathByChildbirth. Meanwhile the readers don’t believe for one second that the main character will be killed off.
** In-universe, Sir Owen even says that he’s sure that Zaros will intervene and keep her alive for whatever “nefarious plans” he may have for her.
* Squick: The forced attraction that Zaros and Seren have in one another’s presence. Jaina finds it horrifying, and even pities Zaros for how he’s forced to love his sister.
** “Culture Shock” and “Waiting for the Lord’s Return” both contain [[InterspeciesRomance onscreen]] [[BizarreAlienBiology love]] [[{{Lemon}} scenes,]] which may not be to everyone’s taste. However, most of the [[ExoticEquipment potentially squickier details]] are glossed over and/or not delved into too greatly.
** The implication that Sliske might have been lying [[spoiler: about not having committed rape during his experiment. WordOfGod says he did not, and it’s confirmed multiple times in-story that Azzanadra is the twins’ father, but the experiment itself--and Sliske’s obsession with the twins--still qualifies as pretty solid horror, and there are more than a few things he could possibly have done to Jaina while she was unconscious besides rape.]]

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