History YMMV / Terminator

1st Oct '17 11:58:31 PM StardustSoldier
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* FranchiseOriginalSin:
** Skynet's ComplexityAddiction. For an all-powerful, hyper-intelligent supercomputer, Skynet's plans are incredibly convoluted. Over the years, many people have pointed out all the ways Skynet, with its unlimited resources and supposedly limitless intellect could have killed John Connor, or even the Human Resistance outright. This was forgivable in the first two movies because time travel was spoken of as a last-ditch effort, so Skynet didn't really have much time to plan. However, with each subsequent movie, book, comic, series, etc. that's released, the time-travel-was-a-desperation-move aspect gets retconned further and further. This means that Skynet has more time to plan and, in fact, has almost ''unlimited'' time to plan. This has the adverse effect of making the central premise of the series not only less believable but harder to keep straight, since time travel theorems are both way over the average audience member's head and very easy for writers to screw up.
** A Terminator, in itself, is an inefficient way to kill people. Biological weapons, radiation, chemicals, and many other things that machines are immune to, but humans are not, would be far better tools. In the first film, it could be explained that Skynet had essentially won against humanity until John Connor showed up out of nowhere, and by the time it realized what was happening, all of the infrastructure and resources to produce those more efficient methods were gone. But then in next few movies, we learn that Skynet has the ability to make Terminators out of nanomachines and also invent nanomachines that can "infect" other machines, and we also learn that even mechanical Terminators are walking nukes. Why not use that stuff on humans? The fourth and fifth movies make this even more questionable, because the Skynets in these timelines KNOWS about what happens in the future and is actively trying to prepare. It finally invents nanos that can infect humans...and uses them on a Terminator that can only infect one person at a time. The aforementioned weapons should be its first priority, but it still focuses on making stronger and more convincing Terminators. At this point, the only explanation is that Skynet is married to the Terminator idea because the franchise's title is, too.

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* FranchiseOriginalSin:
** Skynet's ComplexityAddiction. For an all-powerful, hyper-intelligent supercomputer, Skynet's plans are incredibly convoluted. Over the years, many people have pointed out all the ways Skynet, with
FranchiseOriginalSin: Has [[FranchiseOriginalSin/{{Terminator}} its unlimited resources and supposedly limitless intellect could have killed John Connor, or even the Human Resistance outright. This was forgivable in the first two movies because time travel was spoken of as a last-ditch effort, so Skynet didn't really have much time to plan. However, with each subsequent movie, book, comic, series, etc. that's released, the time-travel-was-a-desperation-move aspect gets retconned further and further. This means that Skynet has more time to plan and, in fact, has almost ''unlimited'' time to plan. This has the adverse effect of making the central premise of the series not only less believable but harder to keep straight, since time travel theorems are both way over the average audience member's head and very easy for writers to screw up.
** A Terminator, in itself, is an inefficient way to kill people. Biological weapons, radiation, chemicals, and many other things that machines are immune to, but humans are not, would be far better tools. In the first film, it could be explained that Skynet had essentially won against humanity until John Connor showed up out of nowhere, and by the time it realized what was happening, all of the infrastructure and resources to produce those more efficient methods were gone. But then in next few movies, we learn that Skynet has the ability to make Terminators out of nanomachines and also invent nanomachines that can "infect" other machines, and we also learn that even mechanical Terminators are walking nukes. Why not use that stuff on humans? The fourth and fifth movies make this even more questionable, because the Skynets in these timelines KNOWS about what happens in the future and is actively trying to prepare. It finally invents nanos that can infect humans...and uses them on a Terminator that can only infect one person at a time. The aforementioned weapons should be its first priority, but it still focuses on making stronger and more convincing Terminators. At this point, the only explanation is that Skynet is married to the Terminator idea because the franchise's title is, too.
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1st Oct '17 11:53:20 PM StardustSoldier
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1st Oct '17 11:51:38 PM StardustSoldier
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* ContestedSequel: All non-Cameron sequels. Critics preferred ''T3'', fans preferred ''Salvation'', [[BrokenBase everyone is divided on]] ''Genisys''.
1st Oct '17 11:47:42 PM StardustSoldier
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** Due to the first film's StableTimeLoop, most fans assume that Cameron backpedaled on the bleak, dark tone of the series in the second movie. However, Cameron himself has stated that he always considered T1 only "half" of the complete story. Literally, in fact, since he had to cut out half of his original concept due to limitations in time and budget. The T-1000 and the race to prevent the future were all original ideas that didn't make it but were incorporated in the sequel.
** Many fans assume that Terminators are colorblind since "Termovision" is always in one color (with the exception of Cameron in ''Sarah Connor Chronicles''). However, in a FreezeFrameBonus, you can actually read the text in the Terminator's HUD and find digitized color, brightness and hue values. So, it sees color alright--just not in a way ''we'' understand it.

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** Due to the first film's StableTimeLoop, most many fans assume that Cameron backpedaled on the bleak, dark tone of the series in the second movie. However, Cameron himself has stated that he always considered T1 only "half" of the complete story. Literally, in fact, since he had to cut out half of his original concept due to limitations in time and budget. The T-1000 and the race to prevent the future were all original ideas that didn't make it it, but were incorporated in the sequel.
** Many fans assume that Terminators are colorblind since "Termovision" is always in one color (with the exception of Cameron in ''Sarah Connor Chronicles''). However, in a FreezeFrameBonus, you can actually read the text in the Terminator's HUD and find digitized color, brightness and hue values. So, it sees color alright--just Terminators do see color, just not in a the way ''we'' understand it.
1st Oct '17 11:44:23 PM StardustSoldier
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!!The Franchise in general:

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!!The Franchise franchise in general:
1st Oct '17 11:44:13 PM StardustSoldier
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* {{Sequelitis}}: See OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight.
1st Oct '17 10:13:38 PM StardustSoldier
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* ExiledFromContinuity: Cameron recently confirmed that not only will the sixth film in the franchise will ignore the events of Genisys, but also all the films he wasn't involved with. ''Yeah'', if that's gonna be the case, that'll be for the best.
27th Sep '17 8:51:20 AM prgiordano
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* Exiled From Continuity: Cameron recently confirmed that not only will the sixth film in the franchise will ignore the events of Genisys, but also all the films he wasn't involved with. ''Yeah'', if that's gonna be the case, that'll be for the best.

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* Exiled From Continuity: ExiledFromContinuity: Cameron recently confirmed that not only will the sixth film in the franchise will ignore the events of Genisys, but also all the films he wasn't involved with. ''Yeah'', if that's gonna be the case, that'll be for the best.
27th Sep '17 8:51:02 AM prgiordano
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* Exiled From Continuity: Cameron recently confirmed that not only will the sixth film in the franchise will ignore the events of Genisys, but also all the films he wasn't involved with. ''Yeah'', if that's gonna be the case, that'll be for the best.
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