History YMMV / SwordArtOnline

19th Oct '17 4:47:42 AM siamesecatman444
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*** "Kirito is '''GOD!'''" / "Kirito wa '''KAMI DA!''' [[note]]With the release ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'', many fans are starting to compare his color scheme and "godly" talents with Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm for the same reasons above.[[/note]]

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*** "Kirito is '''GOD!'''" / "Kirito wa '''KAMI DA!''' DA!'''" [[note]]With the release ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'', many fans are starting to compare his color scheme and "godly" talents with Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm for the same reasons above.[[/note]]
13th Oct '17 6:55:25 PM siamesecatman444
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** The infamous tentacles scene Asuna is subjected too, which was the point where a lot of people gave up on SAO. It invokes
AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles that's a better fit for a hentai genre.

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** The infamous tentacles scene Asuna is subjected too, which was the point where a lot of people gave up on SAO. It invokes
invokes AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles that's a better fit for a hentai genre.
12th Oct '17 6:28:16 AM XanderVJ
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** The OfficialCouple Kirito and Asuna. Two of the most polarizing heroes in TheNewTens anime history. On the broad strokes, some claim that both are a little bit too perfect, thus making them unrelatable, if not downright unlikable. To be more specific:

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** The OfficialCouple Kirito and Asuna. Two of the most polarizing heroes in TheNewTens anime history. On the broad strokes, some claim that both are a little bit too perfect, thus making them unrelatable, if not downright unlikable. Others find them as perfectly engaging protagonists, specially when they are together as a BattleCouple (See EscapistCharacter below). To be more specific:
9th Oct '17 3:23:38 AM Snowy66
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** "Kirito, our lord and savior" [[note]]a sarcastic title for Kirito in regards to his reputation in UW as the "Star King", overpowered fighting style, how he's always [[DesignatedHero shows up to finish the job at the end of the day]].[[/note]]

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** "Kirito, our lord and savior" [[note]]a sarcastic title for Kirito in regards to his reputation in UW as the "Star King", overpowered fighting style, style and how he's always [[DesignatedHero shows up to finish the job at the end of the day]].[[/note]]day]]. It went even further in UW as the "Star King"[[/note]]
8th Oct '17 10:38:43 PM siamesecatman444
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*** "Kirito is '''GOD!'''" / "Kirito wa '''KAMI DA!''' [[note]]With the release ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'', many fans are starting to compare his color scheme and "godhood" with Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm (although in Kirito's case, it's due to reaching PhysicalGod status near the end of ''Alicization'' and during the events of ''Moon Cradle'' instead having Kuroto's [[AGodAmI god complex]]).[[/note]]

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*** "Kirito is '''GOD!'''" / "Kirito wa '''KAMI DA!''' [[note]]With the release ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'', many fans are starting to compare his color scheme and "godhood" "godly" talents with Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm (although in Kirito's case, it's due to reaching PhysicalGod status near for the end of ''Alicization'' and during the events of ''Moon Cradle'' instead having Kuroto's [[AGodAmI god complex]]).same reasons above.[[/note]]
8th Oct '17 10:35:03 PM siamesecatman444
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*** "Kirito is '''GOD!'''" / "Kirito wa '''KAMI DA!''' [[note]]With the release ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'', many fans are starting to compare his color scheme and "godhood" with Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm (although in Kirito's case, it's due to reaching PhysicalGod status near the end of ''Alicization'' and during the events of ''Moon Cradle'' than having Kuroto's [[AGodAmI god complex]]).[[/note]]

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*** "Kirito is '''GOD!'''" / "Kirito wa '''KAMI DA!''' [[note]]With the release ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'', many fans are starting to compare his color scheme and "godhood" with Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm (although in Kirito's case, it's due to reaching PhysicalGod status near the end of ''Alicization'' and during the events of ''Moon Cradle'' than instead having Kuroto's [[AGodAmI god complex]]).[[/note]]
8th Oct '17 10:34:18 PM siamesecatman444
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*** "Kirito is GOD!" [[note]]With the release ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'', many fans are starting to compare his color scheme and "godhood" with Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm (although in Kirito's case, it's due to reaching PhysicalGod status near the end of ''Alicization'' and during the events of ''Moon Cradle'' than having Kuroto's [[AGodAmI god complex]].[[/note]]

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*** "Kirito is GOD!" '''GOD!'''" / "Kirito wa '''KAMI DA!''' [[note]]With the release ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'', many fans are starting to compare his color scheme and "godhood" with Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm (although in Kirito's case, it's due to reaching PhysicalGod status near the end of ''Alicization'' and during the events of ''Moon Cradle'' than having Kuroto's [[AGodAmI god complex]].complex]]).[[/note]]
8th Oct '17 10:32:59 PM siamesecatman444
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** "Kirito, our lord and savior"[[note]]a sarcastic title for Kirito in regards to his overpowered nature and how he's always [[DesignatedHero the hero who saves the day]].[[/note]]

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** "Kirito, our lord and savior"[[note]]a savior" [[note]]a sarcastic title for Kirito in regards to his reputation in UW as the "Star King", overpowered nature and fighting style, how he's always [[DesignatedHero shows up to finish the hero who saves job at the end of the day]].[[/note]]
*** "Kirito is GOD!" [[note]]With the release ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'', many fans are starting to compare his color scheme and "godhood" with Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm (although in Kirito's case, it's due to reaching PhysicalGod status near the end of ''Alicization'' and during the events of ''Moon Cradle'' than having Kuroto's [[AGodAmI god complex]].
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8th Oct '17 9:39:51 AM XanderVJ
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* AngstDissonance: During the Aincrad arc, a lot of players [[DespairEventHorizon struggled to cope]] with a truly desperate situation. Later stories feature normal, non-deadly MMO's where the players are still acting like it's the Vietnam War.

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* AngstDissonance: During the Aincrad ''Aincrad'' arc, a lot of players [[DespairEventHorizon struggled to cope]] with a truly desperate situation. Later stories feature normal, non-deadly MMO's where the players are still acting like it's the Vietnam War.



*** Two characters who appear in ''Hollow Realization'' onwards are Alice and Eugeo, the main characters in the Alicization Arc!

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*** Two characters who appear in ''Hollow Realization'' onwards are Alice and Eugeo, the main characters in the Alicization Arc!''Alicization'' arc!



* BadassDecay: While Klein was never the equal of Kirito in SAO, he filled an important role in Aincrad as Kirito's loyal friend and foil, even when Kirito didn't believe that he deserved the friendship; by Excaliber he's degraded to comic relief and the butt of the jokes, and yet he's ''still'' crucial to its success. Alleviated somewhat in the Mother's Rosario arc, where he's seen swatting dozens of players out of the way with ease, and in [[BigDamnMovie Ordinal Scale]], where he and his guild are among some of the only players to hold their own against the first Event Boos while ''Kirito'' falls flat on his face and needs bailing out, [[spoiler: and may have actually won a fist fight with Eiji had the latter not had an additional AR device to read his opponent's movements]].

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* BadassDecay: While Klein was never the equal of Kirito in SAO, he filled an important role in Aincrad as Kirito's loyal friend and foil, even when Kirito didn't believe that he deserved the friendship; by Excaliber he's degraded to comic relief and the butt of the jokes, and yet he's ''still'' crucial to its success. Alleviated somewhat in the Mother's Rosario ''Mother's Rosario'' arc, where he's seen swatting dozens of players out of the way with ease, and in [[BigDamnMovie Ordinal Scale]], where he and his guild are among some of the only players to hold their own against the first Event Boos while ''Kirito'' falls flat on his face and needs bailing out, [[spoiler: and may have actually won a fist fight with Eiji had the latter not had an additional AR device to read his opponent's movements]].



** Sinon was definitely well received by fans in the Phantom Bullet arc but during the Excalibur Arc, she is considered as being reduced to a harem member and not being as relevant to this story as she was in the Phantom Bullet arc.

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** Sinon was definitely well received by fans in the Phantom Bullet ''Phantom Bullet'' arc but during the Excalibur Arc, she is considered as being reduced to a harem member and not being as relevant to this story as she was in the Phantom Bullet ''Phantom Bullet'' arc.



* EscapistCharacter: Basically, the appeal of both Kirito and Asuna for their fans. Apart from the obvious escapist possibilities that they offer separately[[note]]which on the other hand are the ones that detractors find are taken way too far. See BaseBreakingCharacter above[[/note]], they are somewhat unique in that they also offer an escapist fantasy for couples. As in living a great adventure with your significant other with ''[[BattleCouple both of you]]'' [[BackToBackBadasses kicking ass together]] in pretty much equal measure. A type of fantasy that is actually quite uncommon, not only in anime, but in popular media in general. Especially to this degree and ''especially'' without being hindered by WillTheyOrWontThey dynamics, which SAO refreshingly ''never'' relies on[[note]]A common point of praise is that Kirito and Asuna get together early on, rather that having an all-too-common LastMinuteHookup, and most importantly, stay together through thick and thin. Despite all the ShipTease that Kirito may have with his SupportingHarem, the story always makes clear that he has eyes only for Asuna.[[/note]]. This applies mostly to the Aincrad arc, obviously, and it's a big part of the reason why it's still the most popular arc... and why the "Fairy Dance" arc is so hated, for that matter, since it pretty much throws this fantasy out of the window in the worst way possible. Couples cosplaying together as Kirito and Asuna in tandem is a pretty common view in anime conventions because of all of this.

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* EscapistCharacter: Basically, the appeal of both Kirito and Asuna for their fans. Apart from the obvious escapist possibilities that they offer separately[[note]]which on the other hand are the ones that detractors find are taken way too far. See BaseBreakingCharacter above[[/note]], they are somewhat unique in that they also offer an escapist fantasy for couples. As in living a great adventure with your significant other with ''[[BattleCouple both of you]]'' [[BackToBackBadasses kicking ass together]] in pretty much equal measure. A type of fantasy that is actually quite uncommon, not only in anime, but in popular media in general. Especially to this degree and ''especially'' without being hindered by WillTheyOrWontThey dynamics, which SAO refreshingly ''never'' relies on[[note]]A common point of praise is that Kirito and Asuna get together early on, rather that having an all-too-common LastMinuteHookup, and most importantly, stay together through thick and thin. Despite all the ShipTease that Kirito may have with his SupportingHarem, the story always makes clear that he has eyes only for Asuna.[[/note]]. This applies mostly to the Aincrad ''Aincrad'' arc, obviously, and it's a big part of the reason why it's still the most popular arc... and why the "Fairy Dance" ''Fairy Dance'' arc is so hated, for that matter, since it pretty much throws this fantasy out of the window in the worst way possible. Couples cosplaying together as Kirito and Asuna in tandem is a pretty common view in anime conventions because of all of this.



** There has been one with ''LightNovel/LogHorizon'', due to the similar premise. Interestingly enough, many ''LightNovel/LogHorizon'' supporters seem to be former [=SAO=] fans that dropped the series at some point (normally when the focus of the Aincrad arc shifted to romance, or when the Fairy Dance arc started).

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** There has been one with ''LightNovel/LogHorizon'', due to the similar premise. Interestingly enough, many ''LightNovel/LogHorizon'' supporters seem to be former [=SAO=] fans that dropped the series at some point (normally when the focus of the Aincrad ''Aincrad'' arc shifted to romance, or when the Fairy Dance ''Fairy Dance'' arc started).



* FanonDiscontinuity: A portion of fans of the anime see "Aincrad" as the only Arc, due to the many problems "Alfheim" had. There's also another portion which would do so too, were it not for the Arcs after it. Even the series itself doesn't really ever bring up Asuna as Titania afterwards, despite SAO being referenced plenty of times.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: A portion of fans of the anime see "Aincrad" ''Aincrad'' as the only Arc, due to the many problems "Alfheim" had. There's also another portion which would do so too, were it not for the Arcs after it. Even the series itself doesn't really ever bring up Asuna as Titania afterwards, despite SAO being referenced plenty of times.



* HarsherInHindsight: Yuuki's eventual death for what may have been TooCoolToLive reasons can feel like this when one considers Kirito didn't have any real world help during most of the Alicization Arc, which could easily be the last arc like in the web novels, giving less reasons for her to die. The lack of a user for the Moon Goddess Lunaria super-account during said arc even seems to say the role could have easily been filled by her.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Yuuki's eventual death for what may have been TooCoolToLive reasons can feel like this when one considers Kirito didn't have any real world help during most of the Alicization Arc, ''Alicization'' arc, which could easily be the last arc like in the web novels, giving less reasons for her to die. The lack of a user for the Moon Goddess Lunaria super-account during said arc even seems to say the role could have easily been filled by her.



** The fact that there is an Arc called, "Mother's Rosario." Kirito's birthday is the Feast of the Rosary.

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** The fact that there is an Arc arc called, "Mother's Rosario." Kirito's birthday is the Feast of the Rosary.



** During the Calibern arc the party finds a trapped beautiful woman who begs them to release her. Everyone except Klein sees it as an obvious trap but still Klein releases her. [[spoiler:Turns out it was a trap, [[DisguisedInDrag just not the kind they were expecting]]]]

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** During the Calibern ''Calibern'' arc the party finds a trapped beautiful woman who begs them to release her. Everyone except Klein sees it as an obvious trap but still Klein releases her. [[spoiler:Turns out it was a trap, [[DisguisedInDrag just not the kind they were expecting]]]]



** [[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship Asuna and Yuuki]] during the ''Mother's Rosario'' Arc. When Asuna suggested Yuuki marry someone, Yuuki jokingly considered marrying Asuna. [[spoiler:In her dying moments,]] Yuuki also said Asuna was the person she loved.

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** [[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship Asuna and Yuuki]] during the ''Mother's Rosario'' Arc.arc. When Asuna suggested Yuuki marry someone, Yuuki jokingly considered marrying Asuna. [[spoiler:In her dying moments,]] Yuuki also said Asuna was the person she loved.



** [[WesternAnimation/RocketPower "It's the same ending as last time!"]] [[labelnote:explanation]]This is the fans' reaction to [[spoiler: the climax of the Phantom Bullet Arc being Kirito cutting up the villain in virtual reality and then getting into hand-to-hand combat with a rapist in the real world, just like the Fairy Dance climax. Although, in a twist, he loses this round and would have died, PocketProtector be damned, if Sinon hadn't smashed a stereo into the back of the rapist's head.]][[/labelnote]]

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** [[WesternAnimation/RocketPower "It's the same ending as last time!"]] [[labelnote:explanation]]This is the fans' reaction to [[spoiler: the climax of the Phantom Bullet Arc ''Phantom Bullet'' arc being Kirito cutting up the villain in virtual reality and then getting into hand-to-hand combat with a rapist in the real world, just like the Fairy Dance ''Fairy Dance'' climax. Although, in a twist, he loses this round and would have died, PocketProtector be damned, if Sinon hadn't smashed a stereo into the back of the rapist's head.]][[/labelnote]]



** Asuna herself during the Fairy Dance Arc when [[DamselInDistress she was held captive]].

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** Asuna herself during the Fairy Dance Arc ''Fairy Dance'' arc when [[DamselInDistress she was held captive]].



** Most of the members of Laughing Coffin probably crossed this in when they killed players in SAO, even though they knew they would die. However, [=XaXa=] and Johnny Black definitely manage to cross this [[spoiler: by creating the legend of Death Gun just so they could continue to kill.]] Additionally, Johnny Black crosses this further by [[spoiler:attacking Kirito and Asuna on the street whilst on the run from the police, ultimately resulting with Kirito being poisoned, hospitalized, and then dumped into UW by Rath, setting up the events of the Alicization arc.]]

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** Most of the members of Laughing Coffin probably crossed this in when they killed players in SAO, even though they knew they would die. However, [=XaXa=] and Johnny Black definitely manage to cross this [[spoiler: by creating the legend of Death Gun just so they could continue to kill.]] Additionally, Johnny Black crosses this further by [[spoiler:attacking Kirito and Asuna on the street whilst on the run from the police, ultimately resulting with Kirito being poisoned, hospitalized, and then dumped into UW by Rath, setting up the events of the Alicization ''Alicization'' arc.]]



** Downplayed with Leafa, who took over Asuna's role as Kirito's "love interest" during the Fairy Dance arc, which turned out to be {{Squick}} worthy due to the fact she's Kirito's [[KissingCousins real life cousin]]. It doesn't last in later arcs, however.

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** Downplayed with Leafa, who took over Asuna's role as Kirito's "love interest" during the Fairy Dance ''Fairy Dance'' arc, which turned out to be {{Squick}} worthy due to the fact she's Kirito's [[KissingCousins real life cousin]]. It doesn't last in later arcs, however.



** The Mother's Rosario arc saved Asuna in the eyes of many of her detractors. She ends up getting a fair amount of CharacterDevelopment in gaining the same confidence she had in SAO in real life, and at one point, even passes up an opportunity to call up Kirito so that she can deal with her own problems.

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** The Mother's Rosario ''Mother's Rosario'' arc saved Asuna in the eyes of many of her detractors. She ends up getting a fair amount of CharacterDevelopment in gaining the same confidence she had in SAO in real life, and at one point, even passes up an opportunity to call up Kirito so that she can deal with her own problems.



** In the climax of the Fairy Dance arc, Kirito [[spoiler:set Pain Absorber at level zero.]] and he [[spoiler:'''brutally tortures''']] Sugou until he's wailing in terror and agony, doing such things as [[spoiler:''cutting off his arm and [[EyeScream stabbing him in the eye.]]'']] He's clearly suffered serious damage from it, as shown in the next episode when he [[spoiler:encounters Kirito in the hospital parking lot.]] The show interprets this action as ''heroic''; Asuna and Yui don't even look remotely disturbed by Kirito's brutal actions. Even if the victim is a CompleteMonster, the show looks like it's endorsing [[spoiler:torture and violence]] as instruments of justice, a message that can be just plain ''disturbing.'' Fortunately, Kirito steps back into sympathetic territory by the next episode, when he [[spoiler:refrains from killing Sugou and leaves him to the cops instead.]]
** [[spoiler:Even more so in the Alicization arc when Kirito, who CameBackStrong after [[GameBreakingInjury his worsened brain damage]] have been [[HesBack completely diminished]], [[KickTheSonOfABitch turns [=PoH=]]] [[FateWorseThanDeath into a tree]] [[IRegretNothing without any remorse whatsoever]]. In his defense though, he thought that he wouldn't be able to face Leafa and Sinon for all the troubles they've been through if he regretted doing it.]]

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** In the climax of the Fairy Dance ''Fairy Dance'' arc, Kirito [[spoiler:set Pain Absorber at level zero.]] and he [[spoiler:'''brutally tortures''']] Sugou until he's wailing in terror and agony, doing such things as [[spoiler:''cutting off his arm and [[EyeScream stabbing him in the eye.]]'']] He's clearly suffered serious damage from it, as shown in the next episode when he [[spoiler:encounters Kirito in the hospital parking lot.]] The show interprets this action as ''heroic''; Asuna and Yui don't even look remotely disturbed by Kirito's brutal actions. Even if the victim is a CompleteMonster, the show looks like it's endorsing [[spoiler:torture and violence]] as instruments of justice, a message that can be just plain ''disturbing.'' Fortunately, Kirito steps back into sympathetic territory by the next episode, when he [[spoiler:refrains from killing Sugou and leaves him to the cops instead.]]
** [[spoiler:Even more so in the Alicization ''Alicization'' arc when Kirito, who CameBackStrong after [[GameBreakingInjury his worsened brain damage]] have been [[HesBack completely diminished]], [[KickTheSonOfABitch turns [=PoH=]]] [[FateWorseThanDeath into a tree]] [[IRegretNothing without any remorse whatsoever]]. In his defense though, he thought that he wouldn't be able to face Leafa and Sinon for all the troubles they've been through if he regretted doing it.]]



** Yuuki probably has one of the saddest stories. [[spoiler: She was born with AIDS and had to endure it and all the social stigma that came with it. By the time of Mother's Rosario, she's the only one in her family still alive, she has to remain logged into the Medicuboid 24/7 (to the point where her time in virtual reality exceeds SAO players), and she doesn't have much time left herself. In fact, she dies at the end of the volume, after becoming such great friends with Asuna.]]

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** Yuuki probably has one of the saddest stories. [[spoiler: She was born with AIDS and had to endure it and all the social stigma that came with it. By the time of Mother's Rosario, ''Mother's Rosario'', she's the only one in her family still alive, she has to remain logged into the Medicuboid 24/7 (to the point where her time in virtual reality exceeds SAO players), and she doesn't have much time left herself. In fact, she dies at the end of the volume, after becoming such great friends with Asuna.]]
7th Oct '17 12:08:45 AM Snowy66
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** Yuuki, the {{Deuteragonist}} of ''Mother's Rosario'', is proven to be insanely popular within the fanbase, mainly due to her deep friendship with Asuna and being one of the few characters who can beat Kirito in a fair fight. This is further reinforced and lampshaded by Kirito himself, who noted that she would've been an InvincibleHero if she had learned DualWielding in SAO. [[spoiler:Sadly, she's TooPowerfulToLive and many fans are mourning over her passing, although she '''did''' survive in ''Lost Song'' and later comes back in ''Hollow Realization'' thanks to her PopularityPower.]]

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** Yuuki, the {{Deuteragonist}} of ''Mother's Rosario'', is proven to be insanely popular within the fanbase, mainly due to her deep friendship with Asuna and being one of the few characters who can beat Kirito in a fair fight. This is further reinforced and lampshaded by Kirito himself, who noted that she would've been an InvincibleHero if she had learned DualWielding in SAO. [[spoiler:Sadly, she's TooPowerfulToLive TooCoolToLive and many fans are mourning over her passing, although she '''did''' survive in ''Lost Song'' and later comes back in ''Hollow Realization'' thanks to her PopularityPower.]]



* HarsherInHindsight: Yuuki's eventual death for what may have been TooPowerfulToLive reasons can feel like this when one considers Kirito didn't have any real world help during most of the Alicization Arc, which could easily be the last arc like in the web novels, giving less reasons for her to die. The lack of a user for the Moon Goddess Lunaria super-account during said arc even seems to say the role could have easily been filled by her.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Yuuki's eventual death for what may have been TooPowerfulToLive TooCoolToLive reasons can feel like this when one considers Kirito didn't have any real world help during most of the Alicization Arc, which could easily be the last arc like in the web novels, giving less reasons for her to die. The lack of a user for the Moon Goddess Lunaria super-account during said arc even seems to say the role could have easily been filled by her.


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* TooCoolToLive: Yuuki Konno. So powerful that she completely dominated even Kirito, the WorldsBestWarrior of SAO. She was pretty much invincible in virtual world, but sadly [[spoiler:not so much in the real world.]]
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