History YMMV / SwampThing

18th Nov '17 1:25:44 AM Xtifr
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** Nancy Collins' run has its share of (mild) detractors; she basically reset the series to the end of Alan Moore's run with a Swamp Thing that was (relatively) mainstream-friendly and akin to the Wrightson/Wein and Plasko runs, as she concentrated more on CharacterDevelopment, exploration of Cajun culture and an expanded supporting cast than horror. (Though it's worth noting [[ApprovalOfGod Alan Moore was a fan of her work on the character.]])

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** Nancy Collins' Creator/NancyACollins' run has its share of (mild) detractors; she basically reset the series to the end of Alan Moore's run with a Swamp Thing that was (relatively) mainstream-friendly and akin to the Wrightson/Wein and Plasko runs, as she concentrated more on CharacterDevelopment, exploration of Cajun culture and an expanded supporting cast than horror. (Though it's worth noting [[ApprovalOfGod Alan Moore was a fan of her work on the character.]])
9th Oct '17 12:36:54 PM FuzzyBarbarian
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The first arc of the fourth series is dedicated to undoing everything that occurred in Creator/BrianKVaughan's run.

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The first arc of the fourth series is dedicated to undoing everything that occurred in Creator/BrianKVaughan's run.



*** Even Creator/AlanMoore attempted to soft-pedal his retcon of Swamp Thing's origin by essentially having Abby and everyone else still treat Swampie as Alec Holland. Later writers essentially took the stance that Swamp Thing, for all intents and purposes ''is'' Alec Holland, insofar that he's a plant clone of him with all of his memories and personality, even if the real Alec Holland is dead.
* CanonDiscontinuity: Everything between Len Wein's last issue on the original series and the first issue of Saga of The Swamp Thing. Len Wein literally says this in the letters page: those stories '''did not happen'''.

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*** ** Even Creator/AlanMoore attempted to soft-pedal his retcon of Swamp Thing's origin by essentially having Abby and everyone else still treat Swampie as Alec Holland. Later writers essentially took the stance that Swamp Thing, for all intents and purposes ''is'' Alec Holland, insofar that he's a plant clone of him with all of his memories and personality, even if the real Alec Holland is dead.
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Everything between Len Wein's last issue on the original series and the first issue of Saga of The Swamp Thing. Len Wein literally says this in the letters page: those stories '''did not happen'''.happen'''.
** Mark Millar and Grant Morrison ''openly set out'' to do this ton everything between the ending of Moore's run and theirs.
27th Jun '17 1:39:33 AM HeyFella
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: During the Swamp Thing's botanical assault on Gotham City... where was Poison Ivy?
** In limbo at the time. Ivy was pretty much a D-List Batman villain at the time as it was not until ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' that she was able to garner enough popularity to be considered a big time player.


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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: During the Swamp Thing's botanical assault on Gotham City... where was Poison Ivy?
** In limbo at the time. Ivy was pretty much a D-List Batman villain at the time as it was not until ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' that she was able to garner enough popularity to be considered a big time player.


2nd Jun '17 8:53:12 PM chasemaddigan
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Anton Arcane]] is a MadScientist turned EvilSorcerer obsessed with immortality and its secrets. First seen attempting to steal the Swamp Thing's body, Arcane failed and died in the attempt. His soul, however, returned from hell to steal the body of his niece Abigail Arcane's husband, Matthew Cable. In the guise of Matthew, Anton raped Abigail and consigned her soul to hell in his place. In his new position on earth, Arcane attempted to drive reality itself to insanity, using the souls of resurrected serial killers to cause destruction as the innocent succumb to savage, homicidal urges. Oh, and a little thing called WorldWarII? Arcane was responsible for that. Yes, all of it.

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[[BigBad Anton Arcane]] is a MadScientist turned EvilSorcerer obsessed with immortality and its secrets. First seen attempting to steal the Swamp Thing's body, Arcane failed and died in the attempt. His soul, however, returned from hell to steal the body of his niece Abigail Arcane's husband, Matthew Cable. In the guise of Matthew, Anton raped Abigail and consigned her soul to hell in his place. In his new position on earth, Arcane attempted to drive reality itself to insanity, using the souls of resurrected serial killers to cause destruction as the innocent succumb to savage, homicidal urges. Oh, and a little thing called WorldWarII? Arcane was responsible for that. Yes, all of it.



** Much less so in the TV series, however, where he was less evil and had some morals, coupled with his goal of trying to awaken his comatose wife that led him to cross the line to meet his goal.
11th May '17 10:07:35 AM whateveryousay21
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** Much less so in the TV series, however, where he was less evil and had some morals, coupled with his goal of trying to awaken his comatose wife that led him to cross the line to meet his goal.
17th Mar '17 12:59:46 PM kensu
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Anton Arcane]] is a MadScientist turned EvilSorcerer obsessed with immortality and its secrets. First seen attempting to steal the Swamp Thing's body, Arcane failed and died in the attempt. His soul, however, returned from hell to steal the body of his niece Abigail Arcane's husband, Matthew Cable. In the guise of Matthew, Anton raped Abigail and consigned her soul to hell in his place. In his new position on earth, Arcane attempted to drive reality itself to insanity, using the souls of resurrected serial killers to cause destruction as the innocent succumb to savage, homicidal urges.

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Anton Arcane]] is a MadScientist turned EvilSorcerer obsessed with immortality and its secrets. First seen attempting to steal the Swamp Thing's body, Arcane failed and died in the attempt. His soul, however, returned from hell to steal the body of his niece Abigail Arcane's husband, Matthew Cable. In the guise of Matthew, Anton raped Abigail and consigned her soul to hell in his place. In his new position on earth, Arcane attempted to drive reality itself to insanity, using the souls of resurrected serial killers to cause destruction as the innocent succumb to savage, homicidal urges. Oh, and a little thing called WorldWarII? Arcane was responsible for that. Yes, all of it.
17th Mar '17 12:55:40 PM kensu
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* RecycledScript: The time travel storyline that ended Rick Veitch's run has the same structure as a Len Wein issue (yes, a single issue) involving time travel. In both cases Swamp Thing would be thrown through time, would meet several of the locals, as well as an immortal that he keeps running into, and would eventually come in contact with an object (a crystal in the first case, the chunk of amber in the second) which would launch him back into the timestream. The big difference is that the Wein story Swamp Thing is moving forward in time, and the Veitch stories he's moving backwards. It's especially strange that Swamp Thing doesn't even {{Lampshade}} this, since time travel is actually a pretty uncommon experience for him.
28th Feb '17 3:11:38 PM kensu
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* CanonDiscontinuity: Everything between Len Wein's last issue on the original series and the first issue of Saga of The Swap Thing. Len Wein literally says this in the letters page: those stories '''did not happen'''.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: Everything between Len Wein's last issue on the original series and the first issue of Saga of The Swap Swamp Thing. Len Wein literally says this in the letters page: those stories '''did not happen'''.
28th Feb '17 3:10:56 PM kensu
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* CanonDiscontinuity: Everything between Len Wein's last issue on the original series and the first issue of Saga of The Swap Thing. Len Wein literally says this in the letters page: those stories '''did not happen'''.
16th Dec '16 9:25:30 PM Clown-Face
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** In the New 52, Anton Arcane's new incarnation is a being of boundless cruelty. In his pursuit of immortality, Arcane took over the elemental force of The Rot, [[DarkIsNotEvil the natural force of death and decay]] and subsumed it to his will. Arcane extends the Rot to devour all that lives and trap the world in deathless limbo he can rule. Arcane even forced his own nephew to be the Rot's avatar, devouring his mind from within. In Arcane's battles with Swamp Thing, Alec Holland saw a future where Arcane gruesomely tortured and beheaded Abigail and saw lobotomized clones Arcane had made of her as cannon fodder. He's so damn ''awful'' that The Rot itself secretly goes behind his back to ally with Swamp Thing so they can oust him for an avatar that ''isn't'' such a monster.

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** In the New 52, Anton Arcane's new incarnation is a being of boundless cruelty. In his pursuit of immortality, Arcane took over the elemental force of The Rot, [[DarkIsNotEvil the natural force of death and decay]] and subsumed it to his will. Arcane extends the Rot to devour all that lives and trap the world in deathless limbo he can rule. Arcane even forced his own nephew to be the Rot's avatar, devouring his mind from within. In Arcane's battles with Swamp Thing, Alec Holland saw a future where Arcane gruesomely tortured and beheaded Abigail and saw lobotomized clones Arcane had made of her as cannon fodder. He's so damn ''awful'' that The Rot itself secretly goes behind his back to ally with Swamp Thing so they can oust him for an avatar that ''isn't'' such a monster.
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