History YMMV / SupermanTheAnimatedSeries

30th Dec '16 4:33:07 PM nombretomado
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** "Girl's Night Out", the episode of the {{DCAU}} featuring Batgirl and Supergirl against Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, and Livewire is commonly thought to be a ''STAS'' episode, but in reality it is officially a ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode, according to both the episode list on [[http://www.batman-superman.com the official website]] and the fact that it was on the ''BTAS'' Volume 4 DVD rather than Volume 3 of ''STAS'' (which included the last third of the series, including Supergirl's debut).

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** "Girl's Night Out", the episode of the {{DCAU}} Franchise/{{DCAU}} featuring Batgirl and Supergirl against Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, and Livewire is commonly thought to be a ''STAS'' episode, but in reality it is officially a ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode, according to both the episode list on [[http://www.batman-superman.com the official website]] and the fact that it was on the ''BTAS'' Volume 4 DVD rather than Volume 3 of ''STAS'' (which included the last third of the series, including Supergirl's debut).
30th Dec '16 3:19:00 AM yesatron
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** However, in regards to Superman himself, it can be a bit contentious. While Creator/TimDaly still has fans who prefer him, in recent years, thanks to ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', his successor in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern, has seen an upsurge in popularity, with many viewing Newbern as Superman's definitive voice actor. And then you have fans who like Daly and Newbern equally.

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** And then you have Creator/MichaelIronside as ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, whose even, diabolical take is often considered to be ''the'' definitive iteration of the character. It helps that he has some of the series' greatest lines.
** However, in regards to Superman himself, it can be a bit contentious. While Creator/TimDaly still has fans who prefer him, in recent years, thanks to ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', his successor in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern, has seen an upsurge in popularity, with many viewing Newbern as Superman's definitive voice actor. And then you have fans who like Daly and Newbern equally. equally...
26th Dec '16 2:55:25 AM ACW
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** ComicBook/{{Brainiac}}, who also appeared in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', is a {{robotic psychopath}} and [[TheCollector collector of data]] who views himself as superior to all organic life. Once the [[AIIsACrapshoot supercomputer]] responsible for running Krypton's day-to-day affairs, Brainiac lied to the Council of Elders about the planet's impending doom, prioritising saving himself over preserving the lives of his creators. Escaping into space, Brainiac roams from world-to-world, assembling all of a planet's information, and then destroying the original in order to increase the value of his stolen memories; his objective is to repeat the process across the universe until he has "[[OmnicidalManiac destroyed all of creation]]". Along the way he murders the crew of a spaceship that was investigating his presence, tries to [[GrandTheftMe steal Superman's body for himself]], and [[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS2E12DividedWeFall eventually]], after [[FusionDance fusing]] with ComicBook/LexLuthor, tries to wipe out the entire universe in one fell swoop, aiming to rebuild it in his own image. [[LackOfEmpathy Void of remorse]], and possessed of a bodycount in the billions, Brainiac cared for nothing but [[ItsAllAboutMe his own survival]], and his mission of bringing about "the end of all things."

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** ComicBook/{{Brainiac}}, who also appeared in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' as a threat surpassed only by Darkseid, is a {{robotic psychopath}} and [[TheCollector collector of data]] who views himself as superior to all organic life. Once the [[AIIsACrapshoot supercomputer]] responsible for running Krypton's day-to-day affairs, Brainiac lied to the Council of Elders about the planet's impending doom, prioritising saving himself over preserving the lives of his creators. Escaping into space, Brainiac roams from world-to-world, assembling all of a planet's information, and then destroying the original in order to increase the value of his stolen memories; his objective is to repeat the process across the universe until he has "[[OmnicidalManiac destroyed all of creation]]". Along the way he murders the crew of a spaceship that was investigating his presence, tries to [[GrandTheftMe steal Superman's body for himself]], and [[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS2E12DividedWeFall eventually]], after [[FusionDance fusing]] with ComicBook/LexLuthor, tries to wipe out the entire universe in one fell swoop, aiming to rebuild it in his own image. [[LackOfEmpathy Void of remorse]], and possessed of a bodycount in the billions, Brainiac cared for nothing but [[ItsAllAboutMe his own survival]], and his mission of bringing about "the end of all things."
26th Dec '16 2:38:48 AM ACW
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** ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, who later appeared in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' and was the top threat of the entire DCAU, is the EvilOverlord of the wasteland planet Apokolips, and ultimately desired total dominion over all life in the universe. To achieve this end, he forever seeks the cosmic power of the Anti-Life Equation to use as the ultimate weapon. Incapable of love or empathy, [[AbusiveParents he abused his loyal son Kalibak]], handed over his adopted son Scott Free to be tortured and brainwashed by [[EvilOldFolks Granny Goodness]], and attempted to [[OffingTheOffspring murder his other son]], Orion, for opposing him. His [[BadBoss servants are likewise subjected to torture or death should they fail him]], or even question him. Setting his sights on conquering Earth, Darkseid launched a full-scale invasion on the planet, only relenting when the planet was declared off-limits by Apokolips's sister planet, New Genesis. To compensate, Darkseid murdered [[spoiler:Dan Turpin]] solely [[EvilIsPetty to spite Superman]]. He would make numerous more attempts to conquer or annihilate the planet, including attempting to destroy it with an asteroid and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashing]] Superman into leading an attack on his adopted world, turning the Man of Steel into a pariah for years. He later attempted to use Brainiac's programming to collect the Anti-Life Equation and bend the universe to his will, leading to his death in a battle with Superman. [[BackFromTheDead Upon his resurrection]], Darkseid immediately launched another invasion on Earth, not out of a desire for power, but solely to make Superman suffer. Ruthless and tyrannical, Darkseid is Superman's greatest enemy, and [[ThouShaltNotKill one of the few villains]] he has [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness outright tried to kill]].
** ComicBook/{{Brainiac}} is a {{robotic psychopath}} and [[TheCollector collector of data]] who views himself as superior to all organic life. Once the [[AIIsACrapshoot supercomputer]] responsible for running Krypton's day-to-day affairs, Brainiac lied to the Council of Elders about the planet's impending doom, prioritising saving himself over preserving the lives of his creators. Escaping into space, Brainiac roams from world-to-world, assembling all of a planet's information, and then destroying the original in order to increase the value of his stolen memories; his objective is to repeat the process across the universe until he has "[[OmnicidalManiac destroyed all of creation]]". Along the way he murders the crew of a spaceship that was investigating his presence, tries to [[GrandTheftMe steal Superman's body for himself]], and [[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS2E12DividedWeFall eventually]], after [[FusionDance fusing]] with ComicBook/LexLuthor, tries to wipe out the entire universe in one fell swoop, aiming to rebuild it in his own image. [[LackOfEmpathy Void of remorse]], and possessed of a bodycount in the billions, Brainiac cared for nothing but [[ItsAllAboutMe his own survival]], and his mission of bringing about "the end of all things."

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** ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, who later appeared in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' and was the [[BigBad top threat of the entire DCAU, DCAU]], is the EvilOverlord of the wasteland planet Apokolips, and ultimately desired total dominion over all life in the universe. To achieve this end, he forever seeks the cosmic power of the Anti-Life Equation to use as the ultimate weapon. Incapable of love or empathy, [[AbusiveParents he abused his loyal son Kalibak]], handed over his adopted son Scott Free to be tortured and brainwashed by [[EvilOldFolks Granny Goodness]], and attempted to [[OffingTheOffspring murder his other son]], Orion, for opposing him. His [[BadBoss servants are likewise subjected to torture or death should they fail him]], or even question him. Setting his sights on conquering Earth, Darkseid launched a full-scale invasion on the planet, only relenting when the planet was declared off-limits by Apokolips's sister planet, New Genesis. To compensate, Darkseid murdered [[spoiler:Dan Turpin]] solely [[EvilIsPetty to spite Superman]]. He would make numerous more attempts to conquer or annihilate the planet, including attempting to destroy it with an asteroid and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashing]] Superman into leading an attack on his adopted world, turning the Man of Steel into a pariah for years. He later attempted to use Brainiac's programming to collect the Anti-Life Equation and bend the universe to his will, leading to his death in a battle with Superman. [[BackFromTheDead Upon his resurrection]], Darkseid immediately launched another invasion on Earth, not out of a desire for power, but solely to make Superman suffer. Ruthless and tyrannical, Darkseid is Superman's greatest enemy, and [[ThouShaltNotKill one of the few villains]] he has [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness outright tried to kill]].
** ComicBook/{{Brainiac}} ComicBook/{{Brainiac}}, who also appeared in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', is a {{robotic psychopath}} and [[TheCollector collector of data]] who views himself as superior to all organic life. Once the [[AIIsACrapshoot supercomputer]] responsible for running Krypton's day-to-day affairs, Brainiac lied to the Council of Elders about the planet's impending doom, prioritising saving himself over preserving the lives of his creators. Escaping into space, Brainiac roams from world-to-world, assembling all of a planet's information, and then destroying the original in order to increase the value of his stolen memories; his objective is to repeat the process across the universe until he has "[[OmnicidalManiac destroyed all of creation]]". Along the way he murders the crew of a spaceship that was investigating his presence, tries to [[GrandTheftMe steal Superman's body for himself]], and [[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS2E12DividedWeFall eventually]], after [[FusionDance fusing]] with ComicBook/LexLuthor, tries to wipe out the entire universe in one fell swoop, aiming to rebuild it in his own image. [[LackOfEmpathy Void of remorse]], and possessed of a bodycount in the billions, Brainiac cared for nothing but [[ItsAllAboutMe his own survival]], and his mission of bringing about "the end of all things."
16th Nov '16 8:10:37 AM Anicomicgeek
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** However, in regards to Superman himself, it can be a bit contentious. While Creator/TimDaly still has fans who prefer him, in recent years, thanks to ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', his successor in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern, has seen and upsurge in popularity, with many viewing Newbern as Superman's definitive voice actor. And then you have fans who like Daly and Newbern equally.

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** However, in regards to Superman himself, it can be a bit contentious. While Creator/TimDaly still has fans who prefer him, in recent years, thanks to ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', his successor in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern, has seen and an upsurge in popularity, with many viewing Newbern as Superman's definitive voice actor. And then you have fans who like Daly and Newbern equally.
6th Nov '16 7:49:48 AM rafi
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Livewire. Bruce Timm said in an interview that he and the guys hoped fans would embrace her as "the Harley Quinn" of Superman's series and, while she has some fans and did eventually get added to the comics (even becoming a member of the Superman Family for a while), Livewire was never as popular or well liked as Harley, seeing as how she had none of the tragic sympathy that made Harley endearing; she tended to be more obnoxious than funny, and she gained her powers from, quite frankly, being a complete idiot and blamed Superman when he, you know, ''saved her life from being a complete idiot''.



** Livewire. In the past she was pratically the series equivalent of [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries Harley Quinn]]. Both have also a villain team-up (with Ivy) in "Girl's Night Out".



* TheScrappy:
** Considering [[spoiler:the way he thought Superman "betrayed" him in the finale and his subsequent FaceHeelTurn in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited,]] it's highly doubtful you'll find someone who likes Professor Hamilton ever again. Bruce Timm stated in his Modern Masters book that THEY didn't like Professor Hamilton in the first place. That's why, when debating who Darkseid should kill, they finally came up with [[spoiler: Dan Turpin]], because they weren't allowed to kill Ma and Pa Kent and they felt if they killed Professor Hamilton it wouldn't have any impact, because they never liked him anyway.
** Livewire. Bruce Timm said in an interview that he and the guys hoped fans would embrace her as "the Harley Quinn" of Superman's series, and while she did eventually get added to the comics (even becoming a member of the Superman Family for a while), Livewire was never as popular or well liked as Harley, seeing as how she had none of the tragic sympathy that made Harley endearing; she tended to be more obnoxious than funny, and she gained her powers from, quite frankly, being a complete idiot and blamed Superman when he, you know, ''saved her life from being a complete idiot''.

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* TheScrappy:
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TheScrappy: Considering [[spoiler:the way he thought Superman "betrayed" him in the finale and his subsequent FaceHeelTurn in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited,]] it's highly doubtful you'll find someone who likes Professor Hamilton ever again. Bruce Timm stated in his Modern Masters book that THEY didn't like Professor Hamilton in the first place. That's why, when debating who Darkseid should kill, they finally came up with [[spoiler: Dan Turpin]], because they weren't allowed to kill Ma and Pa Kent and they felt if they killed Professor Hamilton it wouldn't have any impact, because they never liked him anyway.
** Livewire. Bruce Timm said in an interview that he and the guys hoped fans would embrace her as "the Harley Quinn" of Superman's series, and while she did eventually get added to the comics (even becoming a member of the Superman Family for a while), Livewire was never as popular or well liked as Harley, seeing as how she had none of the tragic sympathy that made Harley endearing; she tended to be more obnoxious than funny, and she gained her powers from, quite frankly, being a complete idiot and blamed Superman when he, you know, ''saved her life from being a complete idiot''.
anyway.
17th Oct '16 3:59:50 PM DrPsyche
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** Relating to [[spoiler:Professor Emil Hamilton and hisFaceHeelTurn in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited,]] after feeling "betrayed" by Superman in the finale, one has to wonder if Hamilton was always a narcissistic BitchInSheepsClothing who took too much pride in being Superman's personal Mr. Wizard ally, or if he was a genuinely good man who sadly never overcame the trauma of seeing just how destructive and dangerous Superman could be if he were evil or brainwashed into being evil. If the latter, did he really join CADMUS in JLU of his own free will or was he manipulated by Lex Luthor and Amanda Waller for their own ends? If the latter, does that make him a victim as well as a villain?]]

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** Relating to [[spoiler:Professor Emil Hamilton and hisFaceHeelTurn his FaceHeelTurn in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited,]] after feeling "betrayed" by Superman in the finale, one has to wonder if Hamilton was always a narcissistic BitchInSheepsClothing who took too much pride in being Superman's personal Mr. Wizard ally, or if he was a genuinely good man who sadly never overcame the trauma of seeing just how destructive and dangerous Superman could be if he were evil or brainwashed into being evil. If the latter, did he really join CADMUS in JLU of his own free will or was he manipulated by Lex Luthor and Amanda Waller for their own ends? If the latter, does that make him a victim as well as a villain?]]
15th Oct '16 8:10:39 PM nombretomado
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** In "Knight Time", Brainiac's line to [[spoiler:Superman disguised as]] Batman, "You are every bit the detective your followers on the Internet believe.", has gotten funnier in light of the rise of social media sites like {{Twitter}} and {{Facebook}} and their copious use of the MemeticBadass trope.

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** In "Knight Time", Brainiac's line to [[spoiler:Superman disguised as]] Batman, "You are every bit the detective your followers on the Internet believe.", has gotten funnier in light of the rise of social media sites like {{Twitter}} Website/{{Twitter}} and {{Facebook}} Website/{{Facebook}} and their copious use of the MemeticBadass trope.
23rd Sep '16 5:57:03 PM HeroGal2347
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Livewire. Now, the main view is that she's a belligerent mean-spirited bigot who became a supervillain and she has no right to be angry with Superman, having "saved her life after all." However, her last facial expression conveys the emotional expression of [[DeathSeeker someone anticipating, with glee, a lethal event]]. And not only did Superman steal that from her, he ultimately robbed her of her biological humanity. Of course, it was her own stupidity that got her there in the first place...

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
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Livewire. Now, the main view is that she's a belligerent mean-spirited bigot who became a supervillain and she has no right to be angry with Superman, having "saved her life after all." However, her last facial expression conveys the emotional expression of [[DeathSeeker someone anticipating, with glee, a lethal event]]. And not only did Superman steal that from her, he ultimately robbed her of her biological humanity. Of course, it was her own stupidity that got her there in the first place...place...
** Relating to [[spoiler:Professor Emil Hamilton and hisFaceHeelTurn in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited,]] after feeling "betrayed" by Superman in the finale, one has to wonder if Hamilton was always a narcissistic BitchInSheepsClothing who took too much pride in being Superman's personal Mr. Wizard ally, or if he was a genuinely good man who sadly never overcame the trauma of seeing just how destructive and dangerous Superman could be if he were evil or brainwashed into being evil. If the latter, did he really join CADMUS in JLU of his own free will or was he manipulated by Lex Luthor and Amanda Waller for their own ends? If the latter, does that make him a victim as well as a villain?]]



** Relating to [[spoiler:Professor Emil Hamilton and hisFaceHeelTurn in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited,]] after feeling "betrayed" by Superman in the finale, one has to wonder if Hamilton was always a narcissistic BitchInSheepsClothing who took too much pride in being Superman's personal Mr. Wizard ally, or if he was a genuinely good man who sadly never overcame the trauma of seeing just how destructive and dangerous Superman could be if he were evil or brainwashed into being evil. If the latter, did he really join CADMUS in JLU of his own free will or was he manipulated by Lex Luthor and Amanda Waller for their own ends? If the latter, does that make him a victim as well as a villain?]]
23rd Sep '16 4:39:54 PM Flamethrowerman09
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** Livewire could be seen as a villainous example. Bruce Timm said in an interview that he and the guys hoped fans would embrace her as "the Harley Quinn" of Superman's series, and while she did eventually get added to the comics Livewire was never as popular or well liked as Harley, seeing as how she had none of the tragic sympathy that made Harley endearing, and Livewire tended to be more obnoxious than funny and she gained her powers from, quite frankly, being a complete idiot and blamed Superman when he, you know, saved her life from being a complete idiot.

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** Livewire could be seen as a villainous example. Livewire. Bruce Timm said in an interview that he and the guys hoped fans would embrace her as "the Harley Quinn" of Superman's series, and while she did eventually get added to the comics (even becoming a member of the Superman Family for a while), Livewire was never as popular or well liked as Harley, seeing as how she had none of the tragic sympathy that made Harley endearing, and Livewire endearing; she tended to be more obnoxious than funny funny, and she gained her powers from, quite frankly, being a complete idiot and blamed Superman when he, you know, saved ''saved her life from being a complete idiot.idiot''.
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