History YMMV / SupermanTheAnimatedSeries

23rd Sep '16 5:57:03 PM HeroGal2347
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Livewire. Now, the main view is that she's a belligerent mean-spirited bigot who became a supervillain and she has no right to be angry with Superman, having "saved her life after all." However, her last facial expression conveys the emotional expression of [[DeathSeeker someone anticipating, with glee, a lethal event]]. And not only did Superman steal that from her, he ultimately robbed her of her biological humanity. Of course, it was her own stupidity that got her there in the first place...

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Livewire. Now, the main view is that she's a belligerent mean-spirited bigot who became a supervillain and she has no right to be angry with Superman, having "saved her life after all." However, her last facial expression conveys the emotional expression of [[DeathSeeker someone anticipating, with glee, a lethal event]]. And not only did Superman steal that from her, he ultimately robbed her of her biological humanity. Of course, it was her own stupidity that got her there in the first place...place...
** Relating to [[spoiler:Professor Emil Hamilton and hisFaceHeelTurn in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited,]] after feeling "betrayed" by Superman in the finale, one has to wonder if Hamilton was always a narcissistic BitchInSheepsClothing who took too much pride in being Superman's personal Mr. Wizard ally, or if he was a genuinely good man who sadly never overcame the trauma of seeing just how destructive and dangerous Superman could be if he were evil or brainwashed into being evil. If the latter, did he really join CADMUS in JLU of his own free will or was he manipulated by Lex Luthor and Amanda Waller for their own ends? If the latter, does that make him a victim as well as a villain?]]



** Relating to [[spoiler:Professor Emil Hamilton and hisFaceHeelTurn in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited,]] after feeling "betrayed" by Superman in the finale, one has to wonder if Hamilton was always a narcissistic BitchInSheepsClothing who took too much pride in being Superman's personal Mr. Wizard ally, or if he was a genuinely good man who sadly never overcame the trauma of seeing just how destructive and dangerous Superman could be if he were evil or brainwashed into being evil. If the latter, did he really join CADMUS in JLU of his own free will or was he manipulated by Lex Luthor and Amanda Waller for their own ends? If the latter, does that make him a victim as well as a villain?]]
23rd Sep '16 4:39:54 PM Flamethrowerman09
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** Livewire could be seen as a villainous example. Bruce Timm said in an interview that he and the guys hoped fans would embrace her as "the Harley Quinn" of Superman's series, and while she did eventually get added to the comics Livewire was never as popular or well liked as Harley, seeing as how she had none of the tragic sympathy that made Harley endearing, and Livewire tended to be more obnoxious than funny and she gained her powers from, quite frankly, being a complete idiot and blamed Superman when he, you know, saved her life from being a complete idiot.

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** Livewire could be seen as a villainous example. Livewire. Bruce Timm said in an interview that he and the guys hoped fans would embrace her as "the Harley Quinn" of Superman's series, and while she did eventually get added to the comics (even becoming a member of the Superman Family for a while), Livewire was never as popular or well liked as Harley, seeing as how she had none of the tragic sympathy that made Harley endearing, and Livewire endearing; she tended to be more obnoxious than funny funny, and she gained her powers from, quite frankly, being a complete idiot and blamed Superman when he, you know, saved ''saved her life from being a complete idiot.idiot''.
23rd Sep '16 4:35:41 PM Flamethrowerman09
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* TheScrappy: Considering [[spoiler:the way he thought Superman "betrayed" him in the finale and his subsequent FaceHeelTurn in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited,]] it's highly doubtful you'll find someone who likes Professor Hamilton ever again. Bruce Timm stated in his Modern Masters book that THEY didn't like Professor Hamilton in the first place. That's why, when debating who Darkseid should kill, they finally came up with [[spoiler: Dan Turpin]], because they weren't allowed to kill Ma and Pa Kent and they felt if they killed Professor Hamilton it wouldn't have any impact, because they never liked him anyway.

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Considering [[spoiler:the way he thought Superman "betrayed" him in the finale and his subsequent FaceHeelTurn in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited,]] it's highly doubtful you'll find someone who likes Professor Hamilton ever again. Bruce Timm stated in his Modern Masters book that THEY didn't like Professor Hamilton in the first place. That's why, when debating who Darkseid should kill, they finally came up with [[spoiler: Dan Turpin]], because they weren't allowed to kill Ma and Pa Kent and they felt if they killed Professor Hamilton it wouldn't have any impact, because they never liked him anyway.anyway.
** Livewire could be seen as a villainous example. Bruce Timm said in an interview that he and the guys hoped fans would embrace her as "the Harley Quinn" of Superman's series, and while she did eventually get added to the comics Livewire was never as popular or well liked as Harley, seeing as how she had none of the tragic sympathy that made Harley endearing, and Livewire tended to be more obnoxious than funny and she gained her powers from, quite frankly, being a complete idiot and blamed Superman when he, you know, saved her life from being a complete idiot.
23rd Sep '16 4:29:39 PM Flamethrowerman09
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Volcana; introduced as an AntiVillain with a sympathetic motivation, who had interesting interactions with Superman. All of this is only explored in her debut episode, and all her appearances after that in the DCU despict her as a straight villain who only cameos.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Volcana; introduced as an AntiVillain with a sympathetic motivation, who had interesting interactions with Superman. All of this is only explored in her debut episode, and all her appearances after that in the DCU despict depict her as a straight villain who only cameos.
10th Sep '16 7:07:58 PM yugi195
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*** At one point, Superman complains that he isn't used to all the sneaking around that comes with impersonating Batman. Robin then responds by saying all the stealth is "half the fun". It seems that someone over at Rocksteady had [[BatmanArkhamSeries the same idea]].
6th Sep '16 7:19:11 PM WJTaylor4
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** Relating to [[spoiler:Professor Emil Hamilton and hisFaceHeelTurn in WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Unlimited,]] after feeling "betrayed" by Superman in the finale, one has to wonder if Hamilton was always a narcissistic BitchInSheepsClothing who took too much pride in being Superman's personal Mr. Wizard ally, or if he was a genuinely good man who sadly never overcame the trauma of seeing just how destructive and dangerous Superman could be if he were evil or brainwashed into being evil. If the latter, did he really join CADMUS in JLU of his own free will or was he manipulated by Lex Luthor and Amanda Waller for their own ends? If the latter, does that make him a victim as well as a villain?]]
6th Sep '16 6:07:00 PM WJTaylor4
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** However, in regards to Superman himself, it can be a bit contentious. While Creator/TimDaly still has fans who prefer him, in recent years, thanks to ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', his successor in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern, has seen and upsurge in popularity, with many viewing Newbern as Superman's definitive voice actor.

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** However, in regards to Superman himself, it can be a bit contentious. While Creator/TimDaly still has fans who prefer him, in recent years, thanks to ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', his successor in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern, has seen and upsurge in popularity, with many viewing Newbern as Superman's definitive voice actor. And then you have fans who like Daly and Newbern equally.
5th Sep '16 9:32:24 AM ACW
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** {{ComicBook/Darkseid}}, the EvilOverlord of Apokolips and the UltimateEvil of the DCAnimatedUniverse, turned his home planet into a hellhole and seeks to do the same with Earth. He is a being utterly incapable of love or empathy for anyone. He handed over his adopted son, Scott Free, to be tortured and brainwashed by Granny Goodness, treated his loyal son, Kalibak, [[AbusiveParents like garbage]], and attempted to outright [[OffingTheOffspring kill his other son, Orion]] while joking about it. Darkseid is also fond of conducting ColdBloodedTorture and [[YouHaveFailedMe killing minions for failing him]], or even for [[DisproportionateRetribution questioning him]]. Over the course of ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'', Darkseid tried to conquer earth no less than three times. The first time he’s defeated he compensated by personally murdering [[spoiler:Dan Turpin]] just to cause Superman pain. The second time, he brainwashed Superman into leading Darkseid’s armies against his adopted world, turning the Man of Steel into a pariah for years. His third and final attempt stems not for a desire for power, but solely to make Superman suffer. There’s a reason why Darkseid is one of the only villains [[AllLovingHero Superman]] outright tries to kill.
-->“I hope you appreciate, Kal-El, that everything that happens from this point is on your head. The skies will rain fire, the oceans will boil, the streets will run red with the blood of billions. Only then, after your last pitiful hope is extinguished, will I end your life.”

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** {{ComicBook/Darkseid}}, **ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, who later appeared in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' and was the top threat of the entire DCAU, is the EvilOverlord of Apokolips the wasteland planet Apokolips, and ultimately desired total dominion over all life in the UltimateEvil universe. To achieve this end, he forever seeks the cosmic power of the DCAnimatedUniverse, turned his home planet into a hellhole and seeks Anti-Life Equation to do use as the same with Earth. He is a being utterly incapable ultimate weapon. Incapable of love or empathy for anyone. He empathy, [[AbusiveParents he abused his loyal son Kalibak]], handed over his adopted son, son Scott Free, Free to be tortured and brainwashed by [[EvilOldFolks Granny Goodness, treated his loyal son, Kalibak, [[AbusiveParents like garbage]], Goodness]], and attempted to outright [[OffingTheOffspring kill murder his other son, Orion]] while joking about it. Darkseid is also fond of conducting ColdBloodedTorture and [[YouHaveFailedMe killing minions son]], Orion, for failing opposing him. His [[BadBoss servants are likewise subjected to torture or death should they fail him]], or even for [[DisproportionateRetribution questioning him]]. Over the course of ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'', question him. Setting his sights on conquering Earth, Darkseid tried to conquer earth no less than three times. The first time he’s defeated he compensated launched a full-scale invasion on the planet, only relenting when the planet was declared off-limits by personally murdering Apokolips's sister planet, New Genesis. To compensate, Darkseid murdered [[spoiler:Dan Turpin]] just solely [[EvilIsPetty to cause Superman pain. The second time, he brainwashed spite Superman]]. He would make numerous more attempts to conquer or annihilate the planet, including attempting to destroy it with an asteroid and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashing]] Superman into leading Darkseid’s armies against an attack on his adopted world, turning the Man of Steel into a pariah for years. His third He later attempted to use Brainiac's programming to collect the Anti-Life Equation and final attempt stems bend the universe to his will, leading to his death in a battle with Superman. [[BackFromTheDead Upon his resurrection]], Darkseid immediately launched another invasion on Earth, not for out of a desire for power, but solely to make Superman suffer. There’s a reason why Ruthless and tyrannical, Darkseid is Superman's greatest enemy, and [[ThouShaltNotKill one of the only villains [[AllLovingHero Superman]] few villains]] he has [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness outright tries tried to kill.
-->“I hope you appreciate, Kal-El, that everything that happens from this point is on your head. The skies will rain fire, the oceans will boil, the streets will run red with the blood of billions. Only then, after your last pitiful hope is extinguished, will I end your life.”
kill]].
16th Apr '16 1:35:13 AM rafi
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* AngstWhatAngst: For someone who came out of cryosleep (which for her would be like going to sleep and suddenly waking up) and finding out the rest of her family is dead, her world is now a complete lifeless husk, and she's been trapped on ice for years, Supergirl seems to take things remarkably well. Possibly justified in that what she had to endure before was like hell and Smallville farm (plus superpowers) must seem like heaven.
8th Apr '16 8:18:02 PM Anicomicgeek
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** However, in regards to Superman himself, it can be a bit contentious. While Creator/TimDaly still has fans who prefer him, in recent years, thanks to ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', his successor in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern has seen and upsurge in popularity, with many viewing Newbern as Superman's definitive voice actor.

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** However, in regards to Superman himself, it can be a bit contentious. While Creator/TimDaly still has fans who prefer him, in recent years, thanks to ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', his successor in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern Creator/GeorgeNewbern, has seen and upsurge in popularity, with many viewing Newbern as Superman's definitive voice actor.



* HarsherInHindsight: The second episode has a passenger plane hit with a missile and nearly crash into Metropolis. To make it worse the missile was fired by a ''terrorist''[[note]]okay so they're more like mercenaries but everyone called them terrorists in the episode[[/note]].
** The finale of ''World's Finest'' has the Joker firing missiles on multiple buildings, sending them crashing to the ground. While people run screaming away.

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The second episode has a passenger plane hit with a missile and nearly crash into Metropolis. To make it worse the missile was fired by a ''terrorist''[[note]]okay so they're more like mercenaries but everyone called them terrorists in the episode[[/note]].
episode[[/note]]. Similarly, the first part of "The World's Finest" has a scene where terrorists take over ''Air Force One''.
** The finale of ''World's Finest'' "World's Finest" has the Joker firing missiles on multiple buildings, sending them crashing to the ground. While people run screaming away.ground.
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