History YMMV / Supergirl

6th Aug '17 8:06:24 AM SarcasmKid
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** For as much as Cir-El was initially hated for being a ReplacementScrappy to Linda Danvers ''and'' Kara Zor-El, she's developed a noticeable fanbase of people who liked the idea of her being a daughter figure to Superman because of how much she wanted to be a hero in order to earn her father's approval, to the degree she willingly retconned herself out of existence to save his life. They tend to focus more on her bubbly, plucky personality instead of her convoluted backstory and the "split personality" aspect of her character. Seriously, go on tumblr and you'll have a harder time finding people who ''don't'' like her.
15th Apr '17 9:11:42 PM MagBas
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* TheScrappy: The Post-Crisis Kara Zor-El was this for some time. Traits of hers included: An inordinate amount of time spent [[LetsYouAndHimFight beating up other heroes]], [[DesignatedHero complaining about having to do heroics]] (while wearing the logo of the world's most famous hero on her chest), making [[KickTheDog moves that would instantly mark anyone else as irredeemable]] (like selling the Bottle-City of Kandor to supervillains, then threatening to break ComicBook/PowerGirl's arms for being understandably pissed), [[CreatorsPet receiving constant praise from all those around her]] [[JerkSue despite the above,]] being stronger than Superman (later RetConned), and a solo series plagued by disgustingly bad FanService, {{Curb Stomp Battle}}s, and [[{{Stripperific}} a skirt that was more a belt with a ruffle on it than anything]]. The hatred hit its peak around #14 of said series, when she fought [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra Cain]], a thoroughly popular character who had recently been changed into a CardCarryingVillain. The near-unanimous reaction to Kara winning the fight ([[AssPull with a power that had never been seen or hinted at before]]) was, essentially, "[[MisaimedFandom Fuck you, Cass won.]]" Since then, she was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap by doing actual heroics and dialing down the jerkass traits, but it took some time before readers ever really forgot "Super Paris Hilton".

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* TheScrappy: The Post-Crisis Kara Zor-El was this for some time. Traits of hers included: An inordinate amount of time spent [[LetsYouAndHimFight beating up other heroes]], [[DesignatedHero complaining about having to do heroics]] (while wearing the logo of the world's most famous hero on her chest), making [[KickTheDog moves that would instantly mark anyone else as irredeemable]] (like selling the Bottle-City of Kandor to supervillains, then threatening to break ComicBook/PowerGirl's arms for being understandably pissed), [[CreatorsPet receiving constant praise from all those around her]] [[JerkSue her despite the above,]] being stronger than Superman (later RetConned), and a solo series plagued by disgustingly bad FanService, {{Curb Stomp Battle}}s, and [[{{Stripperific}} a skirt that was more a belt with a ruffle on it than anything]]. The hatred hit its peak around #14 of said series, when she fought [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra Cain]], a thoroughly popular character who had recently been changed into a CardCarryingVillain. The near-unanimous reaction to Kara winning the fight ([[AssPull with a power that had never been seen or hinted at before]]) was, essentially, "[[MisaimedFandom Fuck you, Cass won.]]" Since then, she was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap by doing actual heroics and dialing down the jerkass traits, but it took some time before readers ever really forgot "Super Paris Hilton".
12th Feb '17 6:57:53 PM Crossover-Enthusiast
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* BetterThanItSounds: Teenager Superman with tits, skirt and a ton of issues tries to prove that she is her own person. Finally she does, and then she gets killed and erased from history.

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* BetterThanItSounds: Teenager Superman with tits, skirt boobs, a skirt, and a ton of issues tries to prove that she is her own person. Finally she does, and then she gets killed and erased from history.
27th Jan '17 3:39:11 PM Anicomicgeek
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** ''Superman vol 1 #415: Supergirl: Bride Of- -X?'' was published right after Kara's death and was an extra middle finger aimed at Supergirl fans. So she had a canon, never-before-or-after mentioned husband she completely forgot about? [[http://comicboxcommentary.blogspot.com.es/2008/07/it-came-from-back-issue-box-superman.html All Supergirl fans hate that story]] and no one thinks it is canon anyway (it was a time of way out stories as writers were cut loose to write any story they wanted before the reboot). ''Action Comics #289: Superman's Super-Courtship!'' was so ridiculous it was -arguably- funny at least.
** Most of fans tend to pretend the fist 19 issues of the fifth volume -Loeb and Kelly's runs- never happened. Loeb's run is tolerated, but Kelly's one is reviled.

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** ''Superman vol 1 #415: Supergirl: Bride Of- -X?'' was published right after Kara's death and was an extra middle finger aimed at Supergirl fans. So she had a canon, never-before-or-after mentioned husband she completely forgot about? [[http://comicboxcommentary.blogspot.com.es/2008/07/it-came-from-back-issue-box-superman.html All Supergirl fans hate that story]] and no one thinks it is canon anyway (it was a time of way out stories as writers were cut loose to write any story they wanted before the reboot). ''Action Comics #289: Superman's Super-Courtship!'' was so ridiculous it was -arguably- ''arguably-'' funny at least.
** Most of fans tend to pretend the fist 19 issues of the fifth volume -Loeb -- Loeb and Kelly's runs- runs -- never happened. Loeb's run is tolerated, but Kelly's one is reviled.



** In ''ActionComics #275'', Kara dreams that Superman never turned up and she lived her cousin's life. In ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'', written 37 years after, Superman never turned up and Supergirl was world's greatest hero... because [[spoiler:Lex Luthor found Kal-El's rocket and murdered the baby]].

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** In ''ActionComics ''ComicBook/ActionComics #275'', Kara dreams that Superman never turned up and she lived her cousin's life. In ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'', written 37 years after, Superman never turned up and Supergirl was world's greatest hero... because [[spoiler:Lex Luthor found Kal-El's rocket and murdered the baby]].



* WTHCostumingDepartment: Her New 52 outfit gets some scorn for the odd design choices, notable the cut-out knees on the high boots, the strange red patch on the crotch that almost evokes the image of panties but just looks off, and the general armoured look that, like Superman's costume, doesn't really make much sense. Howere, some fans like the armoured and distinctive look of the costume.

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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Her New 52 outfit gets some scorn for the odd design choices, notable the cut-out knees on the high boots, the strange red patch on the crotch that almost evokes the image of panties but just looks off, and the general armoured look that, like Superman's costume, doesn't really make much sense. Howere, However, some fans like the armoured and distinctive look of the costume.



* AwesomeMusic: Music/JerryGoldsmith's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlI9I-FhVME score]] is one of the few redeeming qualities of this movie.
2nd Jan '17 12:32:27 PM Tron80
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* FandomBerserkButton:
** Suggesting that Supergirl is nothing but a "Superman with skirt/boobs" with no distinguishing traits who added nothing to the Superman mythos and had no good stories prior to ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' or Creator/PeterDavid was the first who wrote the character right will get everyone who actually know Supergirl's character and history laughing their asses off or groaning in exasperation.
** Don't mention Matrix within hearing range of Kara Zor-El's fans, don't suggest that Post-Crisis Linda Danvers was unworthy of the Supergirl mantle and never, ever, bring Cir-El up. And for the God's sake, don't ask "Who is better: Supergirl or Comicbook/PowerGirl?"
** Joe Kelly's run and anything related to H'El are widely considered Dork Ages. Professing love for them or judging Supergirl based on them will get you lynched.
** Even though it was repelled back in 2004, DC's "Superman must be the only survivor from Krypton" edict is a hot button for Superman and especially Supergirl fans.
22nd Dec '16 11:15:29 AM Tron80
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** Jack C. Harris wrote lengthy, serious story arcs with plenty emotional and personal conflicts in the ''Superman Family'' books.


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** Jerry Siegel Supergirl's stories are simplistic and maybe somewhat dated, but they are more complex and emotionally-charged than the then-current Superman stories, and Supergirl was depicted as a girl who had flaws and made mistakes but was determined, brave, slightly impish and a worthy heir of her cousin's mantle.
5th Dec '16 10:56:06 AM Tron80
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* GirlShowGhetto: Supergirl had this problem for decades. Even though she is one of the most recognizable superheroines in the world, she has never been on the same level of sales as her cousin, and her character is often disregarded and put down by people who never read her stories due to their perception of her being a "Superman with skirt/boobs", to the point that DC decided to kill her in the ''Crisis On Infinite Earths'' (in spite of her books having decent, albeit no great, sales). This situation started changing gradually since her reintroduction in 2004. She has starred in several comic-book series, cartoons and tv shows -including ''[[Series/{{Supergirl 2015}} her own series]]''- and she has become a kind of household name since then.
24th Nov '16 1:45:48 AM Tron80
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* OlderThanTheyThink: In ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}}'' Kara and Jimmy have a short-lived romance. Some fans have shipped both characters since the late fifties, and [[http://comicboxcommentary.blogspot.com.es/2015/07/lucy-lane-on-supergirl-show-supermans.html they married in imaginary story Superman's Pal #57]]
20th Nov '16 11:32:45 AM Tron80
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** [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pScx8BN4h3s/S_PJXGpxHGI/AAAAAAAAIYY/hesshogulz8/s1600/adv+383.jpg The cover]] of ''Adventure Comics #383''
15th Nov '16 11:34:59 AM Tron80
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** Superman holding Supergirl in his arms in the cover of ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfinite Earths'' #7 has been frequently referenced and/or parodied and [[http://comicboxcommentary.blogspot.com.es/2015/07/30th-anniversary-crisis-on-infinite_20.html has sold tons of merchandising]].

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** Superman holding Supergirl in his arms in the cover of ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfinite Earths'' ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' #7 has been frequently referenced and/or parodied and [[http://comicboxcommentary.blogspot.com.es/2015/07/30th-anniversary-crisis-on-infinite_20.html has sold tons of merchandising]].
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