History YMMV / Suggsverse

* {{Narm}}: The redundant and textbook-like InfoDumps on the characters and battlefields can easily come across as this.

* {{Narm}}: The [[InfoDump Info Dumps]] on the characters, cosmology, and background (along with a few other things) can get rather silly at times, due to the [[WallOfText extreme detail it goes into]] about their powers and abilities, and how casually they do things that should be impossible.
** NarmCharm: At the same time, they show the readers very effectively just how powerful it is in comparison to most other works.

* TheUnpronounceable: There are many things that are extremely hard to read and pronounce in the Suggsverse, with [£Ḉ§♠∀♠] being one of many examples.

* EnsembleDarkhorse: Allegretto was mere CannonFodder who appeared in 2 pages. Despite that fact, he is among the most famous Suggsverse characters of them all.
%%* FandomNickname: The actual name of the series is Heir to the Stars, and not Suggsverse, though it eventually stuck. The name of the official wiki is even called that.

* TheUnpronounceable: There are many things that are extremely hard to read and pronounce in the Suggsverse, with [£Ḉ§♠∀♠] being one of many examples.
* VocalMinority: Inverted. While fans of Suggsverse can be surprisingly plentiful if you look in the right places, they are nothing compared to the amount of people who dislike it. They usually tend to keep quiet on what they think of Suggsverse, with the exception of a very certain few who grew in infamy due to their unpopular opinions. [[MemeticMutation One of them even became a meme.]]

* BrokenBase:
** The fact that Suggsverse has characters that are beyond omnipotent, and that these characters are nowhere even close to the strongest. Many people have debated about this, and the majority agrees that the Suggsverse is nowhere near this level of power as it is impossible to do so.
*** Actually, this is [[WordofGod explained by Lionel Suggs himself]], several times actually. The reason that Suggsverse IS beyond omnipotent, is that it simply takes place in a world where our logic, that we Humans use, do not apply. Therefore, things like "round square" or "beyond omnipotence" are totally possible. It simply does not apply to our rules of logic. This, as an author statement, debunks all and every arguments saying that Suggsverse is not beyond omnipotent. After all, do rules of physics restrict writing and imagination? No. There are magic schools, people with powers to fly, shoot laser beams and manipulate molecules! And just like writing is not restricted by laws of physics, it does not have to be restricted by laws of logic either. Whether or not the work will have good quality however, that is something entirely different...

** The fact that Suggsverse has characters that are beyond omnipotent, and that these characters are nowhere even close to the strongest. Many people have debated about this, [[HateDom and the majority]] agrees that the Suggsverse is nowhere near this level of power as it is impossible to do so.

** The writing. Is it excusable, given that the Suggsverse mainly focuses on power?

%%* FridgeHorror:

** Is /u/nullfather Creator/{{Lionel Suggs}}? [[labelnote:Explanation]]There is a poster on Reddit named /u/nullfather, who is known for being a genuine fan of Suggsverse. Due to the series' nature, people doubted his identity and questioned him as to whether he is actually the creator, Lionel Suggs, disguising himself as a fan. It soon became a joke that /u/nullfather is the author of Suggsverse. This eventually died out over time, however. [[/labelnote]]

** NarmCharm: At the same time, these things show very effectively just how powerful it is in comparison to most other works.

* {{Narm}}: The [[InfoDump Info Dumps]] on the characters, cosmology, and background (along with a few other things) can be rather silly at times, due to the [[WallOfText extreme detail it goes into]] about their powers and abilities, and how casually they do things that should be impossible.
** NarmCharm: At the same time, these things show just how powerful Suggsverse is in comparison to most works.

** Suggsverse Cockroach solos. [[labelnote:Explanation]]The Suggsverse Cockroach is a made-up character for Suggsverse that is stated as being able to eliminate all concepts (including things like omnipotence). [[WorfEffect The character was killed by being stepped on by an actual character almost instantly.]] Due to the obscurity and infamy surrounding the series, [[PoesLaw people thought that it was an actual excerpt from one of the books.]] This myth was eventually debunked and died down, though it still retains some of it's popularity.[[/labelnote]]

%%* NeverLiveItDown:
* TheUnpronounceable: There are many things that are extremely hard to read and pronounce in the Suggsverse, with [£Ḉ§♠∀♠] being 1 of many examples.
* VocalMinority: Inverted. While fans of Suggsverse are surprisingly plentiful if you look in the right places, they are nothing compared to the amount of people who dislike it. They usually tend to keep quiet on what they think of Suggsverse, with the exception of a very certain few who grew in infamy due to their unpopular opinions. [[MemeticMutation One of them even became a meme.]]

* EnsembleDarkhorse: Allegretto is mere CannonFodder who appeared (and got killed off) in 2 pages. Despite that fact, he is among the most famous Suggsverse characters of them all.

** Suggsverse Cockroach solos. [[labelnote:Explanation]]The Suggsverse Cockroach is a made-up character for Suggsverse that is stated as being able to eliminate all concepts (including things like omnipotence). [[WorfEffect The character was killed by being stepped on by an actual character almost instantly.]] Due to the obscurity and infamy surrounding the series, [[PoesLaw people thought that it was an actual excerpt from one of the books.]] This myth was eventually debunked, and has died down quite a bit, though it still retains some of it's popularity.[[/labelnote]]

* VocalMinority: Inverted, though lately, this is also being Downplayed. While fans of Suggsverse are surprisingly plentiful if you look in the right places, they are nothing compared to the amount of people who dislike it. They usually tend to keep quiet on what they think of Suggsverse, with the exception of a very certain few who grew in infamy due to their unpopular opinions. [[MemeticMutation One of them even became a meme.]]

** The fact that Suggsverse has characters that are beyond omnipotent, and that these characters are nowhere even close to the strongest. Many people have debated about this, [[HateDom with the majority]] saying that Suggsverse is NOT beyond omnipotent, along with stating that it collapses in on itself since it is so ridiculous, along with a couple of other reasons.

** Is /u/nullfather Creator/{{Lionel Suggs}}? [[labelnote:Explanation]]There is a poster on Reddit named /u/nullfather, who is well known for being a genuine fan of Suggsverse. Due to the series' nature, people doubted his identity and questioned him as to whether he is actually the creator, Lionel Suggs, disguising himself as a fan. It soon became a joke that /u/nullfather is the author of Suggsverse. This eventually died out over time, however. [[/labelnote]]

* VocalMinority: Inverted, though lately, this is also being Downplayed. Fans of Suggsverse are surprisingly plentiful if you look in the right places, though they are nothing compared to the amount of people who dislike it. They usually tend to keep quiet on what they think of Suggsverse, with the exception of a very certain few who grew in infamy due to their unpopular opinions. [[MemeticMutation One of them even became a meme.]]

** The writing. Is it excusable, given that the Suggsverse mainly focuses on power? Or is it not, as the Suggsverse could have been significantly better with good characterization, plot, and storytelling?

** Suggsverse Cockroach solos. [[labelnote:Explanation]]The Suggsverse Cockroach is a made-up character for Suggsverse that is stated as being able to eliminate all concepts(including things like omnipotence). [[WorfEffect The character was killed by being stepped on by an actual character almost instantly.]] Due to the obscurity and infamy surrounding the series, [[PoesLaw people thought that it was an actual excerpt from one of the books.]] This myth was eventually debunked, and has died down quite a bit, though it still retains some of it's popularity.[[/labelnote]]

** Is /u/nullfather Creator/{{Lionel Suggs}}? [[labelnote:Explanation]]There is a poster on Reddit known as /u/nullfather who is well known for being a genuine fan of Suggsverse. Due to the series' nature, people questioned him as to whether he is actually the creator posing as a fan, to the point where it became a joke to refer to /u/nullfather as Lionel Suggs. This eventually died out over time, however. [[/labelnote]]

** Is /u/nullfather Creator/{{Lionel Suggs}}? [[labelnote:Explanation]]There is a poster on Reddit known as /u/nullfather who introduced and posted things about Suggsverse, which, as usual, led to the growth of it's HateDom. Due to the fact that very few people support Suggsverse, people questioned his identity, and asked him multiple questions on whether or not he's actually Lionel Suggs. This died down over time, but it's still a pretty popular meme. Nowadays, /u/nullfather no longer posts about Suggsverse, choosing to focus more on his webcomic Webcomic/{{Hyperdynamikon}} instead.[[/labelnote]]

* VocalMinority: Inverted, though lately, this is also being Downplayed. Fans of Suggsverse are surprisingly plentiful if you look in the right places, though they are nothing compared to the amount of people who dislike it. They usually tend to keep quiet on what they think of Suggsverse, with the exception of a very certain few who grew in infamy due to their unpopular opinions. [[MemeticMutation One of them (/u/nullfather) even became a meme.]]

** NarmCharm: At the same time, these things show just how powerful Suggsverse is in comparison to most works.

* TheUnpronounceable: There are many things that are extremely hard to read and pronounce in the Suggsverse, with [£Ḉ§♠∀♠] being 1 of many examples.

* HateDom: Suggsverse is despised by many, to the point where people send messages to Creator/{{Lionel Suggs}} so as to discourage him from writing.

** Suggsverse Cockroach solos. [[labelnote:Explanation]]The Suggsverse Cockroach is a made-up character for Suggsverse that is stated as being able to eliminate all concepts(including things like omnipotence). [[WorfEffect The character was killed by being stepped on by an actual character almost instantly.]] Due to the obscurity and infamy surrounding Suggsverse, [[PoesLaw people thought that it was an actual excerpt from one of the books.]] This myth was eventually debunked, and has died down quite a bit, though it still retains some of it's popularity.[[/labelnote]]

** The fact that Suggsverse has characters that are beyond omnipotent, and that these characters are nowhere even close to the strongest. Many people have debated about this, [[HateDom with the majority]] saying that Suggsverse is NOT beyond omnipotent, along with stating that it collapses in on itself since it is so ridiculous.

%%* FandomNickname:

* {{Narm}}: The [[InfoDump Info Dumps]] on the characters, cosmology, and background(along with a few other things) can be rather silly at times, due to the [[WallOfText extreme detail it goes into]] about their powers and abilities, and how casually they do things that should be impossible.

* VocalMinority: Inverted, though lately, this is being Downplayed. Fans of Suggsverse are surprisingly plentiful if you look in the right places, though they are nothing compared to the amount of people who dislike it. They usually tend to keep quiet on what they think of Suggsverse, with the exception of a very certain few who grew in infamy due to their unpopular opinions. [[MemeticMutation One of them (/u/nullfather) even became a meme.]]

* EnsembleDarkhorse: Allegretto is mere CannonFodder who appeared(and got killed off) in 2 pages. Despite that fact, he is among the most famous Suggsverse characters of them all.

** Is /u/nullfather Creator/{{Lionel Suggs}}? [[labelnote:Explanation]]There is a poster on Reddit known as /u/nullfather who introduced and posts things about Suggsverse, which, as usual, led to the growth of it's HateDom. Due to the fact that very few people support Suggsverse, people questioned his identity, and asked him multiple questions on whether or not he's actually Lionel Suggs. This died down over time, but it's still a pretty popular meme. Nowadays, /u/nullfather no longer posts about Suggsverse, choosing to focus more on his webcomic Webcomic/{{Hyperdynamikon}} instead.[[/labelnote]]

** NarmCharm: At the same time, they also show just how powerful Suggsverse is in comparison to most works.

* VocalMinority: Inverted, though, lately, this is being Downplayed.

** Is /u/nullfather Creator/{{Lionel Suggs}}? [[labelnote:Explanation]]There is a poster on Reddit known as /u/nullfather who introduced and posts things about Suggsverse, which, as usual, led to the adding of people to their HateDom. Due to the fact that very few people support Suggsverse, people questioned his identity, and asked him multiple questions on whether or not he's actually Lionel Suggs. This died down over time, but it's still a pretty popular meme. Nowadays, /u/nullfather no longer posts about Suggsverse, choosing to focus more on his webcomic Webcomic/{{Hyperdynamikon}} instead.[[/labelnote]]

%%** NarmCharm: At the same time, they also show just how powerful Suggsverse is.

%%* VocalMinority: Inverted.

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// * FridgeHorror:

** NarmCharm: At the same time, they also show just how powerful Suggsverse is.
// * NeverLiveItDown:
// * VocalMinority: Inverted.

//* FandomNickname:
//* FridgeHorror:

//* NeverLiveItDown:
//* VocalMinority: Inverted.

* FandomNickname:
* FridgeHorror:

* NeverLiveItDown:
* VocalMinority: Inverted.