History YMMV / StarTrekInsurrection

3rd Feb '18 8:14:06 PM costanton11
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* SpecialEffectFailure: ILM didn't come back for this film (in part due to being busy on ''ThePhantomMenace'', though Rick Berman said at the time that he wouldn't have hired them anyway, since he felt other FX houses could provide the same quality for cheaper) and the quality of visual effects suffered a major drop as a result. The effects aren't ''terrible'' for the most part, but they were considerably behind even what other film were doing with CGI in 1998.

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* SpecialEffectFailure: ILM didn't come back for this film (in part due to being busy on ''ThePhantomMenace'', ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', though Rick Berman said at the time that he wouldn't have hired them anyway, since he felt other FX houses could provide the same quality for cheaper) and the quality of visual effects suffered a major drop as a result. The effects aren't ''terrible'' for the most part, but they were considerably behind even what other film were doing with CGI in 1998.
18th Nov '17 4:45:37 PM Thornfield13713
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*** For that matter, is it so impossible that Picard might well be behaving as he has ''because'' of how badly the last relocation he participated in turned out? People do learn from experience, and change their minds as a result of having made mistakes, after all.
21st Oct '17 8:03:23 AM OlfinBedwere
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** Admiral Dougherty's death is achieved with some low-resolution computer morphing that would have looked bad even on ''Deep Space Nine'' or ''Voyager'', to say nothing of a theatrically-released film.
15th Oct '17 12:54:14 PM Premonition45
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** Not only is ''Insurrection'''s tagline, "The battle for paradise has begun", almost exactly the same as ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry'''s, "The battle for peace has begun", they had [[http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/bonus_ins/posters/ins_poster1a.jpg similar]] ''[[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/05/78/810578682de61fb1d0e370c2dde51a35.jpg posters]]'', too.

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** Not only is ''Insurrection'''s Insurrection's tagline, "The battle for paradise has begun", almost exactly the same as ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry'''s, "The battle for peace has begun", they had [[http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/bonus_ins/posters/ins_poster1a.jpg similar]] ''[[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/05/78/810578682de61fb1d0e370c2dde51a35.jpg posters]]'', too.
15th Oct '17 12:53:27 PM Premonition45
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** Not only is ''Insurrection''s tagline, "The battle for paradise has begun", almost exactly the same as ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry'''s, "The battle for peace has begun", they had [[http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/bonus_ins/posters/ins_poster1a.jpg similar]] ''[[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/05/78/810578682de61fb1d0e370c2dde51a35.jpg posters]]'', too.

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** Not only is ''Insurrection''s ''Insurrection'''s tagline, "The battle for paradise has begun", almost exactly the same as ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry'''s, "The battle for peace has begun", they had [[http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/bonus_ins/posters/ins_poster1a.jpg similar]] ''[[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/05/78/810578682de61fb1d0e370c2dde51a35.jpg posters]]'', too.
15th Oct '17 12:53:08 PM Premonition45
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* DesignatedVillain: The Son'a, and to a lesser extent, Admiral Dougherty. As brought up below, what they are doing will save billions, and the viewer is supposed to draw parallels between them and people that wrought genocide on the Native Americans through relocation, but what they're doing removes the Bak'u non-violently and the Son'a only resort to violence as a last resort, and they're doing all this because they'll all DIE if they don't.

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* DesignatedVillain: The Son'a, and to a lesser extent, degree, Admiral Dougherty. As brought up below, what they are doing will save billions, and the viewer is supposed to draw parallels between them and people that wrought genocide on the Native Americans through relocation, but what they're doing removes the Bak'u non-violently and the Son'a only resort to violence as a last resort, and they're doing all this because they'll all DIE if they don't.



** Not only is ''Insurrection''s tagline, "The battle for paradise has begun", almost exactly the same as ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry'''s, "The battle for peace has begun", they had [[http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/bonus_ins/posters/ins_poster1a.jpg similar]] ''[[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/05/78/810578682de61fb1d0e370c2dde51a35.jpg posters]]'', too.



* MarySueTopia: The Bak'u, who live on a planet with fountain-of-youth powers and espouse a technology-free society. They still use all pre-industrial technology though, making them not as "[[YouKeepUsingThatWord primitive]]" as they'd like to claim. WebSite/SFDebris tore them apart in his review, pointing out how improbably clean and orderly everything and everyone is, especially since our modern standards of cleanliness are derived from technological advancements.

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* MarySueTopia: The Bak'u, who live on a planet with fountain-of-youth powers and espouse a technology-free society. They still use all pre-industrial technology though, making them not as "[[YouKeepUsingThatWord primitive]]" as they'd like to claim. WebSite/SFDebris Website/SFDebris tore them apart in his review, pointing out how improbably clean and orderly everything and everyone is, especially since our modern standards of cleanliness are derived from technological advancements.
13th Oct '17 10:57:13 PM Premonition45
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** When Picard orders Riker and Troi to do some research on the Son'a, Creator/JonathanFrakes is [[http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/insurrectionhd/insurrectionhd0303.jpg clearly wearing a fake beard]] that looks nothing like [[http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/insurrectionhd/insurrectionhd0326.jpg his normal beard]], suggesting that the scene was shot after principal photography.
12th Oct '17 1:53:32 AM OlfinBedwere
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* TheScrappy: Anij, for her DullSurprise acting -- the only time she even raises her voice above a hushed speaking tone is when she's drowning -- and DesignatedLoveInterest status, and Sojef, for coming across as extremely sanctimonious when lecturing the ''Enterprise'' crew about why they don't use technology.
13th Aug '17 3:24:03 PM Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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** The hummingbird seen during the slowed time scene looks ''really'' horrible.

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** The hummingbird seen during the slowed time scene looks ''really'' horrible. And Artim's pet almost looks like an animated animal from an old live-action Disney movie.
25th May '17 1:45:50 AM MitchellTF
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*** Note also, that there wasn't really much that sad the Bak'u even had to leave! If you just use the radiation as is, well...you have a very nice medical planet and age treatment facility. Set up a hospital there, you can check about exposure.
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