History YMMV / StarTrekInsurrection

25th May '17 1:45:50 AM MitchellTF
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*** Note also, that there wasn't really much that sad the Bak'u even had to leave! If you just use the radiation as is, well...you have a very nice medical planet and age treatment facility. Set up a hospital there, you can check about exposure.
6th May '17 6:38:51 AM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The Bolian scientist Hars Adislo approaching Picard on the topic of thermionic transconductance; Picard excuses himself to attend to other matters. It is never brought up again.


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* OneSceneWonder: The blue-skinned Bolian theorist Hans Adislo, who's brief exchange with Captain Picard over thermionic transconductance [[IncrediblyLamePun comes out of the blue]] and is then completely forgotten. In their joint review of the film, the Nostalgia Critic and Linkara are completely baffled at the utter pointlessness of the character.
5th Mar '17 6:24:06 PM timotaka
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** On an individual level the film has Data with his "ethical subroutines" which are here treated like they somehow provide absolutely correct judgment in complex moral decisions.
24th Jan '17 9:19:12 AM SorPepita
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*** Though this ignores the point that a significant number of the Ba'ku ''were'' born on the planet.... Though by that logic ''all'' of the Son'a were ''also'' born on the planet and were forced to leave by the Bak'u due to ideological differences.

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*** Though this ignores the point that a significant number of the Ba'ku ''were'' born on the planet....planet... Though by that logic ''all'' of the Son'a were ''also'' born on the planet and were forced to leave by the Bak'u due to ideological differences.
24th Jan '17 9:17:27 AM SorPepita
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* MisaimedFandom: While Dougherty's motives are ultimately sympathetic, it's rather disconcerting for some that so many fans of the franchise see his plans - i.e., invading an occupied planet, kidnapping the entire population and stealing its resources in a way that will make the planet uninhabitable, and possibly completely destroying whatever made the resource so valuable in the first place - as completely reasonable simply because he has a couple of legal loopholes on his side. Most likely because, other than the ethical issues around the relocation, ''nobody'' in the actual movie even questions his assertian that the plan will work and save ''billions''.

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* MisaimedFandom: While Dougherty's motives are ultimately sympathetic, it's rather disconcerting for some that so many fans of the franchise see his plans - i.e., invading an occupied planet, kidnapping the entire population and stealing its resources in a way that will make the planet uninhabitable, and possibly completely destroying whatever made the resource so valuable in the first place - as completely reasonable simply because he has a couple of legal loopholes on his side. Most likely because, other than the ethical issues around the relocation, ''nobody'' in the actual movie even questions his assertian assertion that the plan will work and save ''billions''.
24th Jan '17 9:13:20 AM SorPepita
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*** This is just hair splitting. On the other hand, Dougherty's actions were intended to acquire life-saving technology which would have saved billions of people during a massive war for the federation's survival, whereas Picard's were intended to appease a morally repulsive dictatorship which had no desire for peace with the Federation and which they immediately violated by basically committing genocide on the remaining inhabitants (Picard did nothing about this, and in fact took the side ''against'' them). And the fact remains that none of the arguments presented by Picard in this movie do not apply equally to his own previous actions.

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*** This is just hair splitting. On the other hand, Dougherty's actions were intended to acquire life-saving technology which would have saved billions of people during a massive war for the federation's survival, whereas Picard's were intended to appease a morally repulsive dictatorship which had no desire for peace with the Federation and which they immediately violated by basically committing genocide on the remaining inhabitants (Picard did nothing about this, and in fact took the side ''against'' them). And the fact remains that none of the arguments presented by Picard in this movie do not apply equally to his own previous actions.
24th Jan '17 9:11:14 AM SorPepita
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** We honestly ''don't'' know what the effects of the metaphasic radiation has ''long term''. While its kept the Ba'ku alive for over 300 years, we also know that [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything it increases metabolism, energy levels and youthful feelings]] from those affected. Hell, that was even a concern in the film, how much it was affecting the ''Enterprise'' crew's rationality! What exactly is there to say that the Son'a, once deprived of this, eventually suffered [[FantasticDrug massive withdrawal symptoms]]? And while 80 years of normal aging clearly has affected them, they constantly have to undergo medical procedures and blood toxin filtering, despite not seeming to be either infirm nor decrepit beforehand. After 300 years of exposure, who's to say that the real reason they have such BodyHorror is because the radiation simply destroyed their bodies natural ability to function and they are simply rapidly decaying without it?

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** We honestly ''don't'' know what the effects of the metaphasic radiation has ''long term''. While its kept the Ba'ku alive for over 300 years, we also know that [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything it increases metabolism, energy levels and youthful feelings]] from those affected. Hell, that was even a concern in the film, how much it was affecting the ''Enterprise'' crew's rationality! What exactly is there to say that the Son'a, once deprived of this, eventually suffered [[FantasticDrug massive withdrawal symptoms]]? And while 80 years of normal aging clearly has affected them, they constantly have to undergo medical procedures and blood toxin filtering, despite not seeming to be either infirm nor decrepit beforehand. After 300 years of exposure, who's to say that the real reason they have such BodyHorror is because the radiation simply destroyed their bodies bodies' natural ability to function and they are simply rapidly decaying without it?
20th Jan '17 10:53:13 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** The weird part is that the whole thing could be easily resolved by revealing the Son'a were lying, or at least having the characters suggest it as a possibility. In fact many viewers argue that very thing, as can be seen elsewhere on this page.
9th Nov '16 9:54:32 AM nombretomado
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** Few people can deny that this is one of JerryGoldsmith's best soundtracks in the franchise.

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** Few people can deny that this is one of JerryGoldsmith's Music/JerryGoldsmith's best soundtracks in the franchise.
1st Nov '16 4:43:31 PM Grobi
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-->'''Dougherty:''' They are not indigenous to this world, they were ''never'' meant to be ''immortal''!

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-->'''Dougherty:''' --->'''Dougherty:''' They are not indigenous to this world, they were ''never'' meant to be ''immortal''!
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