History YMMV / SpiderManTurnOffTheDark

23rd Jun '17 11:08:57 PM SpaceHunterDrakeRedcrest
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original plot didn't have Arachne function as Peter's SpiritAdvisor, but had the ''actual'' Arachne from the Greek legend as the BigBad rather than Green Goblin, with Gobby getting killed off at the end of the first act. Arachne was also the leading lady. She had a song about trying on shoes and a very blatantly FoeYay-laden scene where she sneaks into Peter's room and sings ''Turn Off the Dark.'' She also had two master plans, either of which she would have been perfectly fine with: either have Peter fall in love with her, or have him kill her. Either way, she's freed from her curse.
18th Apr '17 8:55:42 AM lalalei2001
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* LoopholeAbuse: The long, ''long'', preview run led some to speculate that the producers were deliberately avoiding ever debuting the show, in order to exploit a tradition that theater critics won't issue reviews until after opening night. This eventually failed them, as the critics decided that was what they were doing and reviewed the previews.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In theory, comparing Spider-Man to the myth of Arachne isn't a bad idea. Both characters are related to spiders, and both characters are undone by their own hubris. Arachne was punished for believing herself greater then the gods, and Spider-Man lost his uncle because his pride kept him from stopping an easily preventable tragedy. Except here, Uncle Ben isn't killed by the burglar: he's killed by a random car accident that Spidey had nothing to do with. Because of that, the deeper meaning of their connection is lost. The second version corrected this, at least; Uncle Ben is killed by a ''carjacker'', not a random accident, and the carjacker is (of course) the criminal Spider-Man could have stopped.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In theory, comparing Spider-Man to the myth of Arachne isn't a bad idea. Both characters are related to spiders, and both characters are undone by their own hubris. Arachne was punished for believing herself greater then the gods, and Spider-Man lost his uncle because his pride kept him from stopping an easily preventable tragedy. Except here, Uncle Ben isn't killed by the burglar: burglar; he's killed by a random car accident that Spidey had nothing to do with. Because of that, the deeper meaning of their connection is lost. The second version corrected this, at least; Uncle Ben is killed by a ''carjacker'', not a random accident, and the carjacker is (of course) the criminal Spider-Man could have stopped.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original plot didn't have Arachne function as Peter's SpiritAdvisor, but the ''actual'' Arachne from the Greek legend as the BigBad rather than Green Goblin, with Gobby getting killed off at the end of the first act. Arachne was also the leading lady. She had a song about ''trying on shoes'' and a very blatantly FoeYay-laden scene where she sneaks into Peter's room and sings ''Turn Off the Dark.'' She also had two master plans, either of which she would have been perfectly fine with: either have Peter fall in love with her, or have him kill her. Either way, she's freed from her curse.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The original plot didn't have Arachne function as Peter's SpiritAdvisor, but had the ''actual'' Arachne from the Greek legend as the BigBad rather than Green Goblin, with Gobby getting killed off at the end of the first act. Arachne was also the leading lady. She had a song about ''trying trying on shoes'' shoes and a very blatantly FoeYay-laden scene where she sneaks into Peter's room and sings ''Turn Off the Dark.'' She also had two master plans, either of which she would have been perfectly fine with: either have Peter fall in love with her, or have him kill her. Either way, she's freed from her curse.
17th Apr '17 12:03:53 PM lalalei2001
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* HarsherInHindsight: One of the songs is called "The Boy Falls From The Sky". Given the accidents going on during production...

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* HarsherInHindsight: One of the songs is called "The Boy "Boy Falls From The Sky". Given the accidents going on during production...



* SoBadItsGood: The original version's previews all sold out very quickly based solely on this principle. A widely-panned 65 million dollar avant-garde trainwreck is ''worth seeing'', to say the least. The epitome of this in the original version of the play was a sequence where Arachne has a musical number ''[[MundaneMadeAwesome based around shopping]]''.

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* SoBadItsGood: The original version's previews all sold out very quickly based solely on this principle. A widely-panned 65 million dollar avant-garde trainwreck is ''worth seeing'', to say the least. The epitome of this in the original version of the play was a sequence where Arachne has [[https://soundcloud.com/cruiseman/deeply-furious a musical number number]] ''[[MundaneMadeAwesome based around shopping]]''.stealing 50 pairs of shoes]]''.
4th Sep '14 6:20:06 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch: A lot of critics wrote the show off before previews even started.
11th May '14 5:03:37 PM charlie95148
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* HilariousInHindsight: Electro was played by a black man. Jamie Foxx will be him in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Electro was played by a black man. Jamie Foxx will be plays him in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2''.
2nd Apr '14 2:09:39 PM kenyastarflight
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* CreatorsPet: Arachne, to the point where Taymour compared cutting any of her songs or scenes to a ''mastectomy.'' Needless to say, after Taymour was fired Arachne's part was gutted, turning her into TheArtifact.

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* CreatorsPet: Arachne, to the point where Taymour Taymor compared cutting any of her songs or scenes to a ''mastectomy.'' Needless to say, after Taymour Taymor was fired Arachne's part was gutted, turning her into TheArtifact.
2nd Apr '14 1:50:22 PM kenyastarflight
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* CreatorsPet: Arachne, to the point where Taymour compared cutting any of her songs or scenes to a ''mastectomy.'' Needless to say, after Taymour was fired Arachne's part was gutted, turning her into TheArtifact.
1st Dec '13 3:45:41 PM Cyclonus
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** Carnage had an [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome amazing]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JjPc6g9288 Villan Song from the 90's]]. It wasn't used.

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** Carnage had an [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome amazing]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JjPc6g9288 Villan Villian Song from the 90's]]. It wasn't used.
4th Nov '13 10:18:24 PM KingClark
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* AwesomeMusic: All the songs, with "Rise Above" and "Freaks Like Me" being among the best.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: An overhaul of the play was made after weeks of being torn to shreds by critics. See "Growing The Beard" for details.
* AwesomeMusic: All the songs, with "Rise Above" and "Freaks "A Freak Like Me" Me Needs Company" being among the best.



* DancingBear: A lot of people admittedly went to see this because of the fact that it's a musical based on a superhero. Earlier on in the play's production, people went to see it because of the negative reception the play was getting.



* GrowingTheBeard: The play is considered to have improved significantly after it was overhauled, cutting out elements that were widely hated and adding more content to the things that people liked. The biggest change would be from switching the BigBad from Arachne (a CreatorsPet) to The Green Goblin (an EnsembleDarkhorse).



* PainfulRhyme / LyricalShoehorn: The lyrics to "A Freak Like Me Needs Company" were written in a hurry, and sometimes it shows.
* SoBadItsGood: The previews all sold out very quickly based solely on this principal. A 60 million dollar avant-garde trainwreck is ''worth seeing'', to say the least.
** There was a sequence in the original version of the play where Arachne has a musical number ''[[MundaneMadeAwesome based around shopping]]''. It was considered the epitome of this trope.
* SoOkayItsAverage: This seems to be the general consensus among critics, at least in regards to the final version.

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* PainfulRhyme / LyricalShoehorn: PainfulRhyme[=/=]LyricalShoehorn: The lyrics to "A Freak Like Me Needs Company" were written in a hurry, and sometimes it shows.
* SoBadItsGood: The original version's previews all sold out very quickly based solely on this principal. principle. A 60 widely-panned 65 million dollar avant-garde trainwreck is ''worth seeing'', to say the least.
** There was a sequence
least. The epitome of this in the original version of the play was a sequence where Arachne has a musical number ''[[MundaneMadeAwesome based around shopping]]''. It was considered the epitome of this trope.
shopping]]''.
* SoOkayItsAverage: This seems to be the general consensus among critics, at least in regards to the final version. Some critics have warmed up to it, though.



* UncannyValley: Many of the more elaborate costumes left over from Taymor's version fall squarely into this, [[MalevolentMaskedMen especially the villains]].

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* UncannyValley: Many of the more elaborate costumes left over from Taymor's version fall squarely into this, [[MalevolentMaskedMen especially the villains]]. [[IntendedAudienceReaction This may be deliberate.]]
16th Sep '13 6:47:40 AM erforce
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* HilariousInHindsight: Electro was played by a black man. Jamie Foxx will be him in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan 2''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Electro was played by a black man. Jamie Foxx will be him in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan 2''.''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2''.
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