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** Despite the dramatic cliffhanger of Miles [[spoiler:being captured and threatened by [[EvilDoppelganger his alternate self]], acting as the Prowler in his universe, it didn't take long for theories and fanwork to depict the two Miles as getting along together, having "twin energy" between them, or even "stoic big brother and unruly younger brother energy". The artbook apparently reveals that Earth 42 Miles and Aaron are indeed acting as vigilantes and not villains, which further fuelled the belief that Miles and Miles G. will end up as friends.]]
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** Despite the dramatic cliffhanger of Miles [[spoiler:being captured and threatened by [[EvilDoppelganger his alternate self]], acting as the Prowler in his universe, it didn't take long for theories and fanwork to depict the two Miles as getting along together, having "twin energy" between them, or even alternatively "stoic big brother and unruly younger brother energy". The artbook apparently reveals that Earth 42 Miles and Aaron are indeed acting as vigilantes and not villains, which further fuelled the belief that Miles and Miles G. will end up as friends.friends, at the very least on good terms with each other.]]
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* HypeBacklash: ''Across the Spider-Verse'' has been a ''massive'' hit with both critics and audiences alike, many lauding it an EvenBetterSequel to the already critically acclaimed [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse predecessor]], and some critics have even named it "''The best Spider-Man movie ever made''". Par the course, this has led to this reaction in some corners of the internet, which some claiming its runtime is too long and needed trimming, or that the massive cliffhanger hurts the film rather than elevating it (although the alternative would apparently have been a four-five hour movie instead), with some even claiming that ''Across'' "can't really be labelled a good movie or not" until ''Beyond the Spider-Verse'' comes out.
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* HypeBacklash: ''Across the Spider-Verse'' The movie has been a ''massive'' hit with massively well received by both critics and audiences alike, with many lauding calling it an EvenBetterSequel to the already critically acclaimed [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse predecessor]], EvenBetterSequel, and some critics have even named it "''The "The best Spider-Man movie ever made''". Par the course, this made." This has led to this reaction in trope for some corners of who found the internet, which some claiming its runtime is to be too long long, filled with too many characters and needed trimming, or disliking that it ends on the massive huge cliffhanger hurts it does, and preferring the film rather than elevating it (although the alternative would apparently have been a four-five hour first movie instead), with some even claiming that ''Across'' "can't really be labelled for being a good movie or not" until ''Beyond the Spider-Verse'' comes out.complete story and easier to follow.
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** The Spot [[spoiler:travels to the Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse and ends up robbing [[Characters/SSUSanFrancisco Mrs. Chen]], who is less than enthused.]]
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** The Spot [[spoiler:travels to the Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse and ends up robbing [[Characters/SSUSanFrancisco [[Characters/SSUCivilians Mrs. Chen]], who is less than enthused.]]
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I rewatched the ending and I would just like to clarify that not only did Gwen Stacy tearfully broke down in front of her father on how she deeply hurt Miles to the point of losing her trust (proving that she DID care for him), but also the fact that she later promised both of his parents that Miles would be brought back safe and sound. It further highlights how much she truly cared for him as a friend (even if she was manipulated by that no-good Miguel).
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** There are those who claim Gwen is an awful person for [[spoiler:unwillingly betraying Miles in the film, accusing her of not really caring about him or that she should have "known better" than to believe in Miguel and "Canon Events", ignoring how the movie depicts her as a 16-year-old TroubledTeen who fell under Miguel's indoctrination and was given no proof of him being wrong beforehand (including the implication that she's been shown the "Canon Event" of other Gwen Stacys dying tragic deaths over and over again, which would only strengthen her belief in them). She would thus have been led to believe that her choices were to either side with Miles, or risk the multiverse with ''billions of lives'' collapsing, ''including'' Miles' life (meanwhile, Miles has no way of knowing himself that Miguel is wrong and rejects the canon events presumably on the ''hunch'' he has that it's wrong so he can save his dad). Even as the movie quite literally ends with Gwen having realised Miguel's belief is flawed after all and gathered her own Spider-Team to rescue Miles, there is still a minority of voices claiming that she messed up too bad and that Miles should never forgive her.]]
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** There are those who claim Gwen is an awful person for [[spoiler:unwillingly betraying Miles in the film, accusing her of not really caring about him or that she should have "known better" than to believe in Miguel and "Canon Events", ignoring how the movie depicts her as a 16-year-old TroubledTeen who fell under Miguel's indoctrination and was given no proof of him being wrong beforehand (including the implication that she's been shown the "Canon Event" of other Gwen Stacys dying tragic deaths over and over again, which would only strengthen her belief in them). She would thus have been led to believe that her choices were to either side with Miles, or risk the multiverse with ''billions of lives'' collapsing, ''including'' Miles' life (meanwhile, Miles has no way of knowing himself that Miguel is wrong and rejects the canon events presumably on the ''hunch'' he has that it's wrong so he can save his dad). Even as the movie quite literally ends with Gwen having realised breaking down in front of her father on how she deeply hurt Miles and then later realizing that Miguel's belief is flawed after all all, having promised his parents back in his home dimension that she will bring him back home safe and sound, and gathered her own Spider-Team to rescue Miles, there is still a minority of voices claiming that she messed up too bad and that Miles should never forgive her.]]
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* ShallowParody: Ben Reilly is mostly used to mock [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks the '90s comic book edginess]] by making him an EmoTeen full of {{Wangst}}. When he debuted in the ''Clone Saga'', Ben was much less prone to angsting and was more light-hearted than Peter.
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* ShallowParody: Ben Reilly is mostly used to mock [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks [[MediaNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks the '90s comic book edginess]] by making him an EmoTeen full of {{Wangst}}. When he debuted in the ''Clone Saga'', Ben was much less prone to angsting and was more light-hearted than Peter.
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* HypeBacklash: ''Across the Spider-Verse'' has been a ''massive'' hit with both critics and audiences alike, many lauding it an EvenBetterSequel to the already critically acclaimed [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse predecessor]], and some critics have even named it "''The best Spider-Man movie ever made''". Par the course, this has led to this reaction in some corners of the internet, which some claiming its runtime is too long and needed trimming, or that the massive cliffhanger hurts the film rather than elevating it (although the alternative would apparently have been a near four hour movie instead), with some even claiming that ''Across'' "can't really be labelled a good movie or not" until ''Beyond the Spider-Verse'' comes out.
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* HypeBacklash: ''Across the Spider-Verse'' has been a ''massive'' hit with both critics and audiences alike, many lauding it an EvenBetterSequel to the already critically acclaimed [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse predecessor]], and some critics have even named it "''The best Spider-Man movie ever made''". Par the course, this has led to this reaction in some corners of the internet, which some claiming its runtime is too long and needed trimming, or that the massive cliffhanger hurts the film rather than elevating it (although the alternative would apparently have been a near four four-five hour movie instead), with some even claiming that ''Across'' "can't really be labelled a good movie or not" until ''Beyond the Spider-Verse'' comes out.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The release of the film, in which [[spoiler:the death of Capt. Stacy]] is explicitly identified as a major event that has a parallel in every stable timeline, was timed to coincide with the 50th anniversary of ''ComicBook/TheNightGwenStacyDied'', but as it happens, the release ''also'' came in the wake of [[spoiler:the death of Kamala Khan, comics' most prominent Pakistani-American heroine]] in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderMan2022'', an event that was explicitly intended as a homage to the 1973 story, and which is widely believed to have been done because Marvel felt that Peter "needed" ''another'' tragic death on his hands (The other common theory is that it was a brute-force method to soft reboot her origin to be more in line with the MCU[[note]]more complicated than just that, but not a discussion for this page[[/note]], which... ''isn't better'').
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* HarsherInHindsight: The release of the film, in which [[spoiler:the death of Capt. Stacy]] is explicitly identified as a major event that has a parallel in every stable timeline, was timed to coincide with the 50th anniversary of ''ComicBook/TheNightGwenStacyDied'', but as it happens, the release ''also'' came in the wake of [[spoiler:the death of Kamala Khan, comics' most prominent Pakistani-American heroine]] heroine,]] in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderMan2022'', an event that was explicitly intended as a homage to the 1973 story, and which is widely believed to have been done because Marvel felt that Peter "needed" ''another'' tragic death on his hands (The other common theory is that it was a brute-force method to soft reboot her origin to be more in line with the MCU[[note]]more complicated than just that, but not a discussion for this page[[/note]], which... ''isn't better'').
** The Italian-Renaissance era Vulture. He's not in the movie for long, but he definitely makes the most of it with his unique sketchbook style design, his creative ClockPunk arsenal, and the funny confused banter he has fighting Gwen, Jessica, and Miguel.
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** The Italian-Renaissance era Vulture. He's not in the movie for long, but he definitely makes the most of it with his unique sketchbook style design, his creative ClockPunk arsenal, and the funny confused banter he has fighting Gwen, Jessica, and Miguel.
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** There are those who claim Gwen is an awful person for [[spoiler:unwillingly betraying Miles in the film, accusing her of not really caring about him or that she should have "known better" than to believe in Miguel and "Canon Events", ignoring how the movie depicts her as a 16-year old TroubledTeen who fell under Miguel's indoctrination and was given no proof of him being wrong beforehand (including the implication that she's been shown the "Canon Event" of other Gwen Stacys dying tragic deaths over and over again, which would only strengthen her belief in them). She would thus have been led to believe that her choices were to either side with Miles, or risk the multiverse with ''billions of lives'' collapsing, ''including'' Miles' life (meanwhile, Miles has no way of knowing himself that Miguel is wrong and rejects the canon events presumably on the ''hunch'' he has that it's wrong so he can save his dad). Even as the movie quite literally ends with Gwen having realised Miguel's belief is flawed after all and gathered her own Spider-Team to rescue Miles, there is still a minority of voices claiming that she messed up too bad and that Miles should never forgive her.]]
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** There are those who claim Gwen is an awful person for [[spoiler:unwillingly betraying Miles in the film, accusing her of not really caring about him or that she should have "known better" than to believe in Miguel and "Canon Events", ignoring how the movie depicts her as a 16-year old 16-year-old TroubledTeen who fell under Miguel's indoctrination and was given no proof of him being wrong beforehand (including the implication that she's been shown the "Canon Event" of other Gwen Stacys dying tragic deaths over and over again, which would only strengthen her belief in them). She would thus have been led to believe that her choices were to either side with Miles, or risk the multiverse with ''billions of lives'' collapsing, ''including'' Miles' life (meanwhile, Miles has no way of knowing himself that Miguel is wrong and rejects the canon events presumably on the ''hunch'' he has that it's wrong so he can save his dad). Even as the movie quite literally ends with Gwen having realised Miguel's belief is flawed after all and gathered her own Spider-Team to rescue Miles, there is still a minority of voices claiming that she messed up too bad and that Miles should never forgive her.]]
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** There are those who claim Gwen is an awful person for [[spoiler:unwillingly betraying Miles in the film, accusing her of not really caring about him or that she should have "known better" than to believe in Miguel and "Canon Events", ignoring how the movie depicts her as a deeply troubled 16-year old who was given no proof of Miguel being wrong beforehand (including the implication that she's been shown the "canon event" of other Gwen Stacys dying tragic deaths over and over again, which would only strengthen her belief in them), and thus being led to believe she would either have to side with Miles, or ''risk the multiverse with billions of lives collapsing'', (meanwhile, Miles has no way of knowing himself that Miguel is wrong and rejects the canon events presumably on the ''hunch'' he has that it's wrong so he can save his dad). Even as the movie quite literally ends with Gwen having realised Miguel's belief is flawed after all and gathered her own Spider-Team to rescue Miles, there is still a minority of voices claiming that she messed up too bad and that Miles should never forgive her.]]
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** There are those who claim Gwen is an awful person for [[spoiler:unwillingly betraying Miles in the film, accusing her of not really caring about him or that she should have "known better" than to believe in Miguel and "Canon Events", ignoring how the movie depicts her as a deeply troubled 16-year old TroubledTeen who fell under Miguel's indoctrination and was given no proof of Miguel him being wrong beforehand (including the implication that she's been shown the "canon event" "Canon Event" of other Gwen Stacys dying tragic deaths over and over again, which would only strengthen her belief in them), and them). She would thus being have been led to believe she would that her choices were to either have to side with Miles, or ''risk risk the multiverse with billions ''billions of lives collapsing'', lives'' collapsing, ''including'' Miles' life (meanwhile, Miles has no way of knowing himself that Miguel is wrong and rejects the canon events presumably on the ''hunch'' he has that it's wrong so he can save his dad). Even as the movie quite literally ends with Gwen having realised Miguel's belief is flawed after all and gathered her own Spider-Team to rescue Miles, there is still a minority of voices claiming that she messed up too bad and that Miles should never forgive her.]]
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* FanPreferredCouple: Thanks to their status as [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorites]], Hobie/Pavitr is extremely popular pairing, despite them barely interacting. Even Pavitr's canon crush on Gayatri hasn't killed the popularity of this pairing.
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There are some PG-rated films nowadays that got away with uses of the S-word.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The movie's only rated PG, but definitely leans into a "hard" PG (in contrast to a lot of the AvoidTheDreadedGRating animated fare), even moreso than its predecessor. In addition to as much swearing as PG can allow (with plenty of uses of "ass" and "hell"), there's all the eldritch horror surrounding the Spot's descent into villainy, the whole discussion of how every [[spoiler:Spider-Person must face some kind of major personal tragedy that cannot be averted]] with Miles' very understandable shock and existential dread over the fact as [[spoiler:his own father is up next]], and the dark [[spoiler:AlternateUniverse where Miles himself has descended into villainy]]. There's also Miguel's whole backstory, in which we get to see [[spoiler:[[DeathOfAChild his own alternate daughter]] (and the rest of that universe) get erased from existence on-screen!]].
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The movie's only rated PG, but definitely leans into a "hard" PG (in contrast to a lot of the AvoidTheDreadedGRating animated fare), even moreso than its predecessor. In addition to as much swearing as PG can allow having mild cuss words (with plenty of uses of "ass" and "hell"), there's all the eldritch horror surrounding the Spot's descent into villainy, the whole discussion of how every [[spoiler:Spider-Person must face some kind of major personal tragedy that cannot be averted]] with Miles' very understandable shock and existential dread over the fact as [[spoiler:his own father is up next]], and the dark [[spoiler:AlternateUniverse where Miles himself has descended into villainy]]. There's also Miguel's whole backstory, in which we get to see [[spoiler:[[DeathOfAChild his own alternate daughter]] (and the rest of that universe) get erased from existence on-screen!]].
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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as ''Across the Spider-verse'''s to win, given its widespread acclaim, the first film having previously won the award in 2019, and most of the competition ranging from obscure (''WesternAnimation/RobotDreams''), to divisive (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}''), to never having a real chance due to being ScrewedByTheNetwork (''WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}''). Suffice it to say, many were shocked when Ghibli's ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron'' swiped the award. While some (such as co-producer Christopher Miller) gracefully accepted the loss and were happy to see the film win due to it being Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's first Oscar win since ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' in 2003 and it being only the second 2D animated film to win, others (including Miles' voice actor Creator/ShameikMoore) felt ''Across'' was robbed, arguing that Miyazaki didn't deserve the award this time and that he [[ConsolationAward only got it because of his history of being snubbed in the past]]. As a result, this quickly caused a FandomRivalry to form between ''Spider-Verse'' fans and Ghibli fans over who deserved the award more.
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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as ''Across the Spider-verse'''s to win, given its widespread acclaim, the first film having previously won the award in 2019, and most of the competition ranging from obscure (''WesternAnimation/RobotDreams''), to divisive (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}''), to never having a real chance due to being ScrewedByTheNetwork (''WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}''). Suffice it to say, many were shocked when Ghibli's ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron'' swiped the award. While some (such as co-producer Christopher Miller) gracefully accepted the loss and were happy to see the film win due to it being Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's first Oscar win since ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' in 2003 and 2003, it being only the second 2D animated film to win, and it being the first PG-13-rated animated film to win, others (including Miles' voice actor Creator/ShameikMoore) felt ''Across'' was robbed, arguing that Miyazaki didn't deserve the award this time and that he [[ConsolationAward only got it because of his history of being snubbed in the past]]. As a result, this quickly caused a FandomRivalry to form between ''Spider-Verse'' fans and Ghibli fans over who deserved the award more.
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* FandomRivalry: ''Across the Spider-Verse'' shared fairly one-sided rivalries and comparisons to both ''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental|2023}}'' and ''Film/{{The Flash|2023}}'' (being an animated film ''and'' superhero film with an emphasis on the multiverse, respectively), with the majority of support being in ''Spider-Verse's'' favor due to [[WesternAnimation/Elemental2023 the former]] being from rival studio Creator/{{Pixar}} and [[Film/TheFlash2023 the latter]] suffering from middling reviews and [[TroubledProduction controversies surrounding]] [[Creator/EzraMiller the film's lead.]] Things only got more vitriolic and swayed in ''Spider-Verse's'' favor when ''The Flash'' [[BoxOfficeBomb severely under-performed at the box office]] while ''Spider-Verse'' made nearly $700 million worldwide. It didn't help that ''Spider-Verse'' and ''The Flash'' turned out to have diametrically opposed themes of ScrewDestiny vs. YouCantFightFate, the latter of which has been argued to be tone-deaf in the cultural zeitgeist ''The Flash'' was released in and handled far less competently than ''Spider-Verse's'' themes.
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** ''Across the Spider-Verse'' shared fairly one-sided rivalries and comparisons to both ''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental|2023}}'' and ''Film/{{The Flash|2023}}'' (being an animated film ''and'' superhero film with an emphasis on the multiverse, respectively), with the majority of support being in ''Spider-Verse's'' favor due to [[WesternAnimation/Elemental2023 the former]] being from rival studio Creator/{{Pixar}} and [[Film/TheFlash2023 the latter]] suffering from middling reviews and [[TroubledProduction controversies surrounding]] [[Creator/EzraMiller the film's lead.]] Things only got more vitriolic and swayed in ''Spider-Verse's'' favor when ''The Flash'' [[BoxOfficeBomb severely under-performed at the box office]] while ''Spider-Verse'' made nearly $700 million worldwide. It didn't help that ''Spider-Verse'' and ''The Flash'' turned out to have diametrically opposed themes of ScrewDestiny vs. YouCantFightFate, the latter of which has been argued to be tone-deaf in the cultural zeitgeist ''The Flash'' was released in and handled far less competently than ''Spider-Verse's''themes.themes.
** Thanks to the 2024 Awards season, a rivalry sprang up between Across the Spider-Verse and The Boy and The Heron. They were largely the frontrunners for many awards ceremonies, and while Across won the Annie award, Boy and the Heron won at the BAFTAs, Golden Globes, and the Oscars. While many did have a Graceful Loser attitude, including Christopher Miller, seeing Boy and The Heron as a Worthy Opponent and equally deserving of the win in it's own right. There are also many who genuinely feel that Across the Spider-Verse was the superior film that deserved to win due to the high quality of its animation, art style, music score, and compelling personal but socially relevant story. While they do not believe that Boy and The Heron is lacking in these areas and generally recognize it as an excellent film, they also thought this was an attempt to award Hayao Miyazaki in recognition of his entire career and contribution to the animation industry. As a result of these intentions, Across the Spider-Verse was forced to compete against the legacy of Miyazaki as opposed to simply Boy and The Heron, resulting in a stacked deck that robbed it of a deserving victory. Although it should again be noted that this rivalry is a byproduct of the Awards Season, outside of this one arena, there are many who have no problem with loving both films.
** ''Across the Spider-Verse'' shared fairly one-sided rivalries and comparisons to both ''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental|2023}}'' and ''Film/{{The Flash|2023}}'' (being an animated film ''and'' superhero film with an emphasis on the multiverse, respectively), with the majority of support being in ''Spider-Verse's'' favor due to [[WesternAnimation/Elemental2023 the former]] being from rival studio Creator/{{Pixar}} and [[Film/TheFlash2023 the latter]] suffering from middling reviews and [[TroubledProduction controversies surrounding]] [[Creator/EzraMiller the film's lead.]] Things only got more vitriolic and swayed in ''Spider-Verse's'' favor when ''The Flash'' [[BoxOfficeBomb severely under-performed at the box office]] while ''Spider-Verse'' made nearly $700 million worldwide. It didn't help that ''Spider-Verse'' and ''The Flash'' turned out to have diametrically opposed themes of ScrewDestiny vs. YouCantFightFate, the latter of which has been argued to be tone-deaf in the cultural zeitgeist ''The Flash'' was released in and handled far less competently than ''Spider-Verse's''
** Thanks to the 2024 Awards season, a rivalry sprang up between Across the Spider-Verse and The Boy and The Heron. They were largely the frontrunners for many awards ceremonies, and while Across won the Annie award, Boy and the Heron won at the BAFTAs, Golden Globes, and the Oscars. While many did have a Graceful Loser attitude, including Christopher Miller, seeing Boy and The Heron as a Worthy Opponent and equally deserving of the win in it's own right. There are also many who genuinely feel that Across the Spider-Verse was the superior film that deserved to win due to the high quality of its animation, art style, music score, and compelling personal but socially relevant story. While they do not believe that Boy and The Heron is lacking in these areas and generally recognize it as an excellent film, they also thought this was an attempt to award Hayao Miyazaki in recognition of his entire career and contribution to the animation industry. As a result of these intentions, Across the Spider-Verse was forced to compete against the legacy of Miyazaki as opposed to simply Boy and The Heron, resulting in a stacked deck that robbed it of a deserving victory. Although it should again be noted that this rivalry is a byproduct of the Awards Season, outside of this one arena, there are many who have no problem with loving both films.
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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as ''Across the Spider-verse'''s to win, given its widespread acclaim, the first film having previously won the award in 2019, and most of the competition ranging from obscure (''WesternAnimation/RobotDreams''), to divisive (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}''), to never having a real chance due to being ScrewedByTheNetwork (''WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}''). Suffice it to say, many were shocked when Ghibli's ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron'' swiped the award. While some (such as co-producer Christopher Miller) gracefully accepted the loss and were happy to see the film win (due to it being Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's first Oscar win since ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' in 2003 and it being only the second 2D animated film to win, others (including Miles' voice actor Creator/ShameikMoore) felt ''Across'' was robbed, arguing that Miyazaki didn't deserve the award this time and that he [[ConsolationAward only got it because of his history of being snubbed in the past]]. As a result, this quickly caused a FandomRivalry to form between ''Spider-Verse'' fans and Ghibli fans over who deserved the award more.
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** Best Animated Feature was largely seen as ''Across the Spider-verse'''s to win, given its widespread acclaim, the first film having previously won the award in 2019, and most of the competition ranging from obscure (''WesternAnimation/RobotDreams''), to divisive (''WesternAnimation/{{Elemental}}''), to never having a real chance due to being ScrewedByTheNetwork (''WesternAnimation/{{Nimona}}''). Suffice it to say, many were shocked when Ghibli's ''Anime/TheBoyAndTheHeron'' swiped the award. While some (such as co-producer Christopher Miller) gracefully accepted the loss and were happy to see the film win (due due to it being Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's first Oscar win since ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' in 2003 and it being only the second 2D animated film to win, others (including Miles' voice actor Creator/ShameikMoore) felt ''Across'' was robbed, arguing that Miyazaki didn't deserve the award this time and that he [[ConsolationAward only got it because of his history of being snubbed in the past]]. As a result, this quickly caused a FandomRivalry to form between ''Spider-Verse'' fans and Ghibli fans over who deserved the award more.
