History YMMV / SpiderMan

26th Apr '17 8:06:15 AM NVPOWER
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** Carl King, aka the Thousand, was a one-shot villain introduced as Peter Parker's high school bully who was aware that Parker was Spider-Man. Jealous of Peter's powers and wanting some of his own, King eats the now-dead spider that bit Peter, which causes his body to transform into a HiveMind swarm of spiders. He gains the ability to "possess" people by entering their bodies and eating their insides, wearing their skin like a suit and mimicking their voices. His ultimate goal is to steal Peter's life. While he could have been a decent recurring villain as well as a good EvilCounterpart to Peter, he's killed off in his debut when all of his spiders die.

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** Carl King, aka the Thousand, was a one-shot villain introduced as Peter Parker's high school bully who was aware that Parker was Spider-Man. Jealous of Peter's powers and wanting some of his own, [[NightmareFuel King eats the now-dead spider that bit Peter, which causes his body to transform into a HiveMind swarm of spiders. He gains the ability to "possess" people by entering their bodies and eating their insides, wearing their skin like a suit and mimicking their voices. His ultimate goal is to steal Peter's life. ]] While he could have been a decent recurring villain as well as a good EvilCounterpart to Peter, he's killed off in his debut when all of his spiders die.
26th Apr '17 7:53:09 AM NVPOWER
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** Surprisingly averted when he backhanded a ''pregnant'' Mary Jane. Though long-time fans understandably criticize this one moment, you're not likely to find any writers willing to reference it in any way, mostly because it's been [[Retcon retconned since then, wich means that it supposedly never happened.]] [[ComicBook/AntMan Hank Pym]] would surely and understandably be envious of that.

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** Surprisingly averted when he backhanded a ''pregnant'' Mary Jane. Though long-time fans understandably criticize this one moment, you're not likely to find any writers willing to reference it in any way, mostly because it's been [[Retcon retconned since then, wich means that it supposedly never happened.]] happened. [[ComicBook/AntMan Hank Pym]] would surely and understandably be envious of that.
26th Apr '17 7:45:17 AM NVPOWER
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** And more after it, such as Spidey somehow being [[TooDumbToLive dumb]] to realize he was drinking alcohol and not soda as he first thought, resulting in a one night stand.
** Surprisingly averted when he backhanded a ''pregnant'' Mary Jane. Though long-time fans understandably criticize this one moment, you're not likely to find any writers willing to reference it in any way. [[ComicBook/AntMan Hank Pym]] would surely and understandably be envious of that.

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** And more after it, such as Spidey somehow being [[TooDumbToLive dumb]] too naive to realize he was drinking alcohol and not soda as he first thought, resulting in a one night stand.
** Surprisingly averted when he backhanded a ''pregnant'' Mary Jane. Though long-time fans understandably criticize this one moment, you're not likely to find any writers willing to reference it in any way. way, mostly because it's been [[Retcon retconned since then, wich means that it supposedly never happened.]] [[ComicBook/AntMan Hank Pym]] would surely and understandably be envious of that.
12th Apr '17 2:26:05 AM MisterCPC
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** During one team up with Ghost Rider, Spidey mentions that maybe Ghost Rider start driving a car instead of a motorcycle. Flashforward a few years later and we get introduced to [[ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider Robbie Reyes]]...
19th Mar '17 2:56:49 AM jormis29
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*** On the same note, there's a split regarding whether Spidey should get married again. A debate that's always been there, but got a particularly strong revival during the build up to "Renew Your Vows". Although the pro-marriage side is arguably the most vocal, there are plenty of people who are satisfied with a single Spider-Man. There are also people who [[TookAThirdOption take a third option]] and say that just Peter being in a committed relationship with Mary Jane ([[ShipToShipCombat or whoever the supported love interested is]]) would be enough.

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*** On the same note, there's a split regarding whether Spidey should get married again. A debate that's always been there, but got a particularly strong revival during the build up to "Renew Your Vows".''ComicBook/RenewYourVows''. Although the pro-marriage side is arguably the most vocal, there are plenty of people who are satisfied with a single Spider-Man. There are also people who [[TookAThirdOption take a third option]] and say that just Peter being in a committed relationship with Mary Jane ([[ShipToShipCombat or whoever the supported love interested is]]) would be enough.



** The Regent, a boring and uninteresting {{Expy}} of Darkseid that wants only to collect superpowers. He was the main villain in the ''[[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Renew Your Vows]]'' story. The worst is that, while the story was good thanks to Spider-Family (Peter, Mary Jane and their daughter), he became a CanonImmigrant in 616 universe besides nobody likes him. He is just another Slott CreatorsPet.

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** The Regent, a boring and uninteresting {{Expy}} of Darkseid that wants only to collect superpowers. He was the main villain in the ''[[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Renew Your Vows]]'' ''ComicBook/RenewYourVows'' story. The worst is that, while the story was good thanks to Spider-Family (Peter, Mary Jane and their daughter), he became a CanonImmigrant in 616 universe besides nobody likes him. He is just another Slott CreatorsPet.



** The Secret Wars tie in mini series Renew Your Vows featured Peter married to Mary Jane Watson and raising a daughter, and working together to take down the Regent. This series was promised to have repercussions in the main book with elements carried forward into the main title. And with series such as Weirdworld and Old Man Logan having direct ties to the Secret Wars series, this offered the promise that Peter and MJ's relationship issues would begin begin to be resolved. Instead, the "elements" that were brought over was just the Regent, considered to be the weakest element of the mini series overall for his generic and bland personality. Making things worse was the fact that this wasn't even the Regent from the original mini-series, just the "main" universe's version of the character. The biggest disappointment however has to be that in a series following up a story about Peter and MJ, the two characters barely interact at all outside a handful of scenes, MJ constantly belittles and talks down to Peter, Peter is more upset with Iron Man stealing his thunder than anything else, with the final battle only having Peter, MJ and the Regent have a vague sense of deja vu. Even MJ swinging to the rescue in the final part wearing the Iron Spider armor wasn't enough to save the arc from being considered a major disappointment overall.

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** The Secret Wars ''Secret Wars'' tie in mini series Renew Your Vows ''ComicBook/RenewYourVows'' featured Peter married to Mary Jane Watson and raising a daughter, and working together to take down the Regent. This series was promised to have repercussions in the main book with elements carried forward into the main title. And with series such as Weirdworld and Old Man Logan having direct ties to the Secret Wars series, this offered the promise that Peter and MJ's relationship issues would begin begin to be resolved. Instead, the "elements" that were brought over was just the Regent, considered to be the weakest element of the mini series overall for his generic and bland personality. Making things worse was the fact that this wasn't even the Regent from the original mini-series, just the "main" universe's version of the character. The biggest disappointment however has to be that in a series following up a story about Peter and MJ, the two characters barely interact at all outside a handful of scenes, MJ constantly belittles and talks down to Peter, Peter is more upset with Iron Man stealing his thunder than anything else, with the final battle only having Peter, MJ and the Regent have a vague sense of deja vu. Even MJ swinging to the rescue in the final part wearing the Iron Spider armor wasn't enough to save the arc from being considered a major disappointment overall.
9th Mar '17 7:28:04 PM hullflyer
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Spider-Man is one of the most popular American super-heroes of all time, so it's not surprising that he's extremely popular abroad as well. What's more surprising is that in many countries he's arguably THE most popular American super-hero ever. Yes, even more than Franchise/{{Superman}}.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Spider-Man is one of the most popular American super-heroes of all time, so it's not surprising that he's extremely popular abroad as well. What's more surprising is that in many countries he's arguably THE most popular American super-hero ever. Yes, even more than Franchise/{{Superman}}. Hardly surprising, as he combines the best elements of Franchise/{{Superman}} (superpowers, bright red and blue costume) with the best of Franchise/{{Batman}} (more "human", not invulnerable, able to look badass & creepy when he wants to).
9th Mar '17 12:56:20 PM hullflyer
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** Spider-Man has had plenty of bad stories of the years, but there are two of them that, more than any other story lines, will automatically trigger memories of sheer rage to big chunks of the fan base: ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'' and ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay''.

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** Spider-Man has had plenty of bad stories of over the years, but there are two of them that, more than any other story lines, will automatically trigger memories of sheer rage to big chunks of the fan base: ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'' and ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay''.
9th Mar '17 12:40:53 PM hullflyer
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* AlasPoorScrappy: A lot of people who hated the character expressed this towards Carnage after he was thought dead in ''Axis'', mainly because [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap he was just redeemed as a character in the eyes of many]]. It's rather surprising that many people who wanted the character written out just a few years before where now overjoyed when it turned out that he survived.

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* AlasPoorScrappy: A lot of people who hated the character expressed this towards Carnage after he was thought dead in ''Axis'', mainly because [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap he was just redeemed as a character in the eyes of many]]. It's rather surprising that many people who wanted the character written out just a few years before where were now overjoyed when it turned out that he survived.
25th Feb '17 1:01:31 AM GrammarNavi
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** Gwen Stacy's death. At the time, it was one of the most surprising developments in comics as a hero's love interest was considered totally safe. After this storyline, writers became less shy about killing off supporting cast members and love interests, making it a little hard for newcomers to see why this was such an earth-shattering event for the Marvel Universe. Not to mention it eventually led to the common phenomenon of fridging female characters, which comes off as lazy and misogynistic in the long run. Doing it once to one character is one thing, but it's a problem when so many female characters later on are casually offed so nonchalantly (Big Barda, Alex DeWitt, Sue Dibny...).

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** Gwen Stacy's death. At the time, it was one of the most surprising developments in comics as a hero's love interest was considered totally safe. After this storyline, writers became less shy about killing off supporting cast members and love interests, making it a little hard for newcomers to see why this was such an earth-shattering event for the Marvel Universe. Not to mention it eventually led to the common phenomenon of fridging female characters, which comes off as lazy and misogynistic in the long run. Doing it once to one character is one thing, but it's a problem when so many female characters later on are casually offed so nonchalantly (Big Barda, Alex DeWitt, [=DeWitt=], Sue Dibny...).
22nd Feb '17 11:12:28 AM Kittencakes
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* EvilIsSexy: Harry, Octopus, Venom (even in-universe, apparently).

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* EvilIsSexy: Harry, Octopus, Venom (even in-universe, apparently). And Norman, for some. The sharp businessman plus bad boy attitude certainly works for some people.



** Gwen Stacy's death. At the time, it was one of the most surprising developments in comics as a hero's love interest was considered totally safe. After this storyline, writers became less shy about killing off supporting cast members and love interests, making it a little hard for newcomers to see why this was such an earth-shattering event for the Marvel Universe.

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** Gwen Stacy's death. At the time, it was one of the most surprising developments in comics as a hero's love interest was considered totally safe. After this storyline, writers became less shy about killing off supporting cast members and love interests, making it a little hard for newcomers to see why this was such an earth-shattering event for the Marvel Universe. Not to mention it eventually led to the common phenomenon of fridging female characters, which comes off as lazy and misogynistic in the long run. Doing it once to one character is one thing, but it's a problem when so many female characters later on are casually offed so nonchalantly (Big Barda, Alex DeWitt, Sue Dibny...).


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*** It's rather ironic to see many people often fighting about Mary Jane or Gwen, complaining about who is the "stronger" female character, considering when Gwen was alive they were good friends in the comics. It's not helped by the media (outside of the comics and Spectacular Spider-man), which has never presented the two girls on friendly grounds (Or the two being in a gang with Harry and Peter, that's the tragedy of Gwen's death that's overlooked by everyone: it destroyed what was a close friendship between four people, considering Harry later on after it became the Goblin). They're either catty and competitive for Peter's love, or they don't exist at the same time they appear in the story (Amazing Spider-man's Gwen dies before we ever meet their version of MJ).
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