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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she [[MoralEventHorizon gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times,]] feeling sorry for ''[[ItsAllAboutMe herself]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale meant to feel the same.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she [[MoralEventHorizon gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' rapes Saiga several times,]] feeling sorry for ''[[ItsAllAboutMe herself]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale meant to feel the same.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she [[MoralEventHorizon gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes Saiga several times,]]'' feeling sorry for ''[[ItsAllAboutMe herself]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale meant to feel the same.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she [[MoralEventHorizon gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes ''rapes'' Saiga several times,]]'' times,]] feeling sorry for ''[[ItsAllAboutMe herself]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale meant to feel the same.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[MoralEventHorizon rapes Saiga several times,]]'' feeling sorry for ''[[ItsAllAboutMe herself.]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale meant to feel the same.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she [[MoralEventHorizon gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[MoralEventHorizon rapes ''rapes Saiga several times,]]'' feeling sorry for ''[[ItsAllAboutMe herself.]]'' herself]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale meant to feel the same.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[MoralEventHorizon rapes Saiga several times,]]''feeling sorry for ''[[ItsAllAboutMe herself.]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale meant to feel the same.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[MoralEventHorizon rapes Saiga several times,]]''feeling times,]]'' feeling sorry for ''[[ItsAllAboutMe herself.]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale meant to feel the same.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[MoralEventHorizon rapes Saiga several times,]]feeling sorry for ''[[ItsAllAboutMe herself.]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale duringmeant to feel the same.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[MoralEventHorizon rapes Saiga several times,]]feeling times,]]''feeling sorry for ''[[ItsAllAboutMe herself.]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale duringmeant meant to feel the same.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[MoralEventHorizon rapes Saiga several times,]]feeling sorry for ''[[It'sAllAboutMe herself.]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale duringmeant to feel the same.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[MoralEventHorizon rapes Saiga several times,]]feeling sorry for ''[[It'sAllAboutMe ''[[ItsAllAboutMe herself.]]'' as she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale duringmeant to feel the same.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she [[MoralEventHorizon gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times.]] Worst of all, she's portrayed as pitiable ''[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale during]]'' her rape of Saiga.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she [[MoralEventHorizon gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' ''[[MoralEventHorizon rapes Saiga several times.]] Worst of all, she's portrayed times,]]feeling sorry for ''[[It'sAllAboutMe herself.]]'' as pitiable ''[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale during]]'' her rape of Saiga.she does so. And apparently the audience is [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale duringmeant to feel the same.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rapes]]'' Saiga several times. Worst of all, she's portrayed as pitiable ''[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale during]]'' her rape of Saiga.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she [[MoralEventHorizon gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rapes]]'' ''rapes'' Saiga several times. times.]] Worst of all, she's portrayed as pitiable ''[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale during]]'' her rape of Saiga.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[WhyGrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rapes]]'' Saiga several times. Worst of all, she's portrayed as pitiable ''[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale during]]'' her rape of Saiga.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of how ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''[[WhyGrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'' ''[[GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'', is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter]], and allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''[[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rapes]]'' Saiga several times. Worst of all, she's portrayed as pitiable ''[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale during]]'' her rape of Saiga.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: While the ending is supposed to be happy because [[spoiler:Suitengu [[TheExtremistWasRight succeeded in wiping out Japan's corrupt elite]]]], the fact is that [[spoiler:he did this by utterly destroying Japan’s economy, which will have a devastating effect on the whole world and [[AMillionIsAStatistic ruin millions of innocent lives]], and [[FullCircleRevolution nothing really changes]] since the old elite gets replaced by Suitengu’s corrupt associates]]. Sure, the main characters get their happy ending, as shown in the WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue, but it's likely that [[OnlyTheLeadsGetAHappyEnding only the main characters are happy]].
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Episode 20, the AuthorTract and WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief both went off the rails. All wealth and power invariably make monsters of everyone who has it, everyone else are hypocrites and ineffectual ones at that. [[HumansAreBastards Humans are uniformly response-stimulus machines]], and even our hero isn't exempt from that.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: As of Episode 20, the AuthorTract and WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief both went off the rails. [[CapitalismIsBad All wealth and power invariably make monsters of everyone who has it, it]], everyone else are hypocrites is a hypocrite and an ineffectual ones one at that. [[HumansAreBastards Humans are uniformly response-stimulus machines]], and even our hero isn't exempt from that. And not to mention [[BigBad Suitengu]] ''[[TheBadGuyWins wins]]'' in the end, essentially [[ShaggyDogStory making the heroes actions meaningless]].



** Ginza started as a pretty violent CowboyCop who had a habit of killing [[AssholeVictim deserving criminals]] she came across and tried to blackmail Saiga into sleeping with her. Disturbing stuff overall, but made less cringeworthy as it could've been given the deaths were played for dark laughs, and Saiga wasn't especially bothered by her blackmail and got the better of her anyway. However... it becomes clear she has a very unhealthy obsession with Saiga and eventually trades Kagura to her abusive mother in return for "keeping" him. She then proceeds to hit him with her car, repeatedly ''rape'' him while he's unconscious while questioning why "she's not good enough for him",([[SarcasmMode How her plight tugs at the heartstrings...]]) and lock him up until he decides to be with her. Later on, the show attempted a HeelRealization, but most would say it was just a ''little'' too late for her to realize her treatment of an innocent girl and of course her little rape sessions were wrong.

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** Ginza started as a pretty violent CowboyCop who had a habit of killing [[AssholeVictim deserving criminals]] she came across and tried to blackmail Saiga into sleeping with her. Disturbing stuff overall, but made less cringeworthy as it could've been given the deaths were played for dark laughs, and Saiga wasn't especially bothered by her blackmail and got the better of her anyway. However... it becomes clear she has a very unhealthy obsession with Saiga and eventually trades Kagura to her abusive mother in return for "keeping" him. She then proceeds to hit him with her car, repeatedly ''rape'' him while he's unconscious while questioning why "she's not good enough for him",([[SarcasmMode him" ([[SarcasmMode How her plight tugs at the heartstrings...]]) and lock him up until he decides to be with her. Later on, the show attempted a HeelRealization, but most would say it was just a ''little'' too late for her to realize her treatment of an innocent girl and of course her little rape sessions were wrong.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. Worst of all, she's portrayed as pitiable ''during'' her rape of Saiga.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' ''[[MoralEventHorizon far]]'' they go,]] go, how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, {{Wangst}}, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions, which he does as a NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either.[[/note]]. either[[/note]], and [[TheBadGuyWins completely destroys Japan’s economy]], which will likely [[AMillionIsAStatistic screw over millions of innocent people]]. That this is [[EsotericHappyEnding portrayed as a happy ending]] does not help. Meanwhile, Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and because she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' ''[[WhyGrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave gorgeous]]'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that [[AbusiveParents she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter daughter]], and again, lets allows Suitengu to use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' ''[[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rapes]]'' Saiga several times. Worst of all, she's portrayed as pitiable ''during'' ''[[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale during]]'' her rape of Saiga.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Episode 20, the AuthorTract and WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief both went off the rails. [[{{Anvilicious}} Ok anvil, I got it]] -- all wealth and power invariably make monsters of everyone who has it, everyone else are hypocrites and ineffectual ones at that. We're uniformly response-stimulus machines, even our hero isn't exempt from that.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Episode 20, the AuthorTract and WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief both went off the rails. [[{{Anvilicious}} Ok anvil, I got it]] -- all All wealth and power invariably make monsters of everyone who has it, everyone else are hypocrites and ineffectual ones at that. We're [[HumansAreBastards Humans are uniformly response-stimulus machines, machines]], and even our hero isn't exempt from that.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The whole soundtrack qualifies but the closing credits [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okgh8XzYa0g ''Break The Cocoon'']] definitely takes the cake.
** 'Fess up, you probably know about this series just because of the OP [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DC6ctcf2Gw&feature=related Shinkichi Mitsumune's "Shutter Speed"]]
*** Or you could be one of the many who was annoyed that Creator/FUNimation was unable to use Duran Duran's "Girls on Film" like in the original Japanese version.



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The whole soundtrack qualifies but the closing credits [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okgh8XzYa0g ''Break The Cocoon'']] definitely takes the cake.
** 'Fess up, you probably know about this series just because of the OP [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DC6ctcf2Gw&feature=related Shinkichi Mitsumune's "Shutter Speed"]]
*** Or you could be one of the many who was annoyed that Creator/FUNimation was unable to use Duran Duran's "Girls on Film" like in the original Japanese version.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him [[note]]Granted, he does learn too late that the man's son stole said yen, and can only think to advise him on how to fulfill his potential YouKilledMyFather vengeance.[[/note]], and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit only because he views this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him [[note]]Granted, he does learn too late that the man's son stole said yen, and can only think to advise him on how to fulfill his potential YouKilledMyFather vengeance.[[/note]], him, and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit only because sessions, which he views this does as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.NecessaryEvil, but then, he doesn't show any remorse for it, either.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. Worst of all, she's portrayed as pitiable ''during'' her rape of Saiga.
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* MagnificentBastard: Suitengu

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* MagnificentBastard: Suitengu[[BigBad Choji Suitengu]] is a man who flaunts his extensive wealth via using expensive yen notes as cigars, believing everything 'has its price,' especially human life. In truth, Suitengu is dedicated to overthrowing the social order of Japan, manipulating all the upper echelons of society with his Roppongi Club that caters to a variety of fetishes. Constantly planning ahead of series hero Saiga, Suitengu also manipulates his lover, Shinzen of the powerful Tennozou Group and later disposes of her when she attempts to betray and kill him.Revealing his tragic past to his arch enemy, the prime minister, when the man tries to kill Suitengu and take over the Roppongi Club, Suitengu kills him and enacts his master plan: completely erasing the corrupt upper class and causing a massive financial crisis to completely break their hold on Japan forever.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him [[note]]Granted, he does learn too late that the man's son stole said yen, and can only think to advise him on how to fulfill his potential YouKilledMyFather vengeance.[[/note]], and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit only because he views this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him [[note]]Granted, he does learn too late that the man's son stole said yen, and can only think to advise him on how to fulfill his potential YouKilledMyFather vengeance.[[/note]], and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit only because he views this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]
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Whether or not the argument is hamfisted or poorly executed, you can criticize interclass dynamics without starving yourself to death in renunciation of all wealth. You can bet that nobody made more than a living wage or gained substantial fame from a friggin' Z-list Gonzo anime.


** And while we're on the subject, if that's true wouldn't you be interested in giving back the money and fame you've earned from this franchise, Mr. Author Sir?
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* HellIsThatNoise: In-universe, the screeching of dentist drills -- Niharii is shown cowering in an office with his hands over his ears to block out the sound. Of course, the fact the drills were being used by a DepravedDentist to basically rip a woman's mouth apart probably played a factor in that.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him [[note]]He was also alone with the man, he only killed him for cruelty's sake, and then has the nerve to condescendingly console the man's son after the fact[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit only because he views this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him [[note]]He was also alone with the man, [[note]]Granted, he only killed him for cruelty's sake, and then has the nerve to condescendingly console does learn too late that the man's son after the fact[[/note]]. stole said yen, and can only think to advise him on how to fulfill his potential YouKilledMyFather vengeance.[[/note]], and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit only because he views this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him [[note]]He was also alone with the man, he only killed him for cruelty's sake, and then has the nerve to condescendingly console the man's son after the fact[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit only because he views this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him [[note]]He was also alone with the man, he only killed him for cruelty's sake, and then has the nerve to condescendingly console the man's son after the fact[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit only because he views this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him [[note]]Granted, he does learn too late that the man's son stole said yen, and can only think to advise him on how to fulfill his potential YouKilledMyFather vengeance.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit only because he views this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him [[note]]Granted, [[note]]He was also alone with the man, he does learn too late that only killed him for cruelty's sake, and then has the nerve to condescendingly console the man's son stole said yen, and can only think to advise him on how to fulfill his potential YouKilledMyFather vengeance.[[/note]].after the fact[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit only because he views this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.

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* HellIsThatNoise: The ShallowParody CampGay, never given CharacterDevelopment could've been [[ShooOutTheClowns moved offstage for the dramatic scenes]]. Instead his shrieking "Saiga!" is interjected inappropriately and frequently enough to be a LevelBreaker.
** In-universe, the screeching of dentist drills -- Niharii is shown cowering in an office with his hands over his ears to block out the sound. Of course, the fact the drills were being used by a DepravedDentist to basically rip a woman's mouth apart probably played a factor in that.

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* HellIsThatNoise: The ShallowParody CampGay, never given CharacterDevelopment could've been [[ShooOutTheClowns moved offstage for the dramatic scenes]]. Instead his shrieking "Saiga!" is interjected inappropriately and frequently enough to be a LevelBreaker.
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In-universe, the screeching of dentist drills -- Niharii is shown cowering in an office with his hands over his ears to block out the sound. Of course, the fact the drills were being used by a DepravedDentist to basically rip a woman's mouth apart probably played a factor in that.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him.[[note]] He and his son were also the only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit viewing this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake . Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if little (if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaves his fresh corpse in front of his son, which is implied to be regular business for him.[[note]] He him [[note]]Granted, he does learn too late that the man's son stole said yen, and his son were also the can only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.think to advise him on how to fulfill his potential YouKilledMyFather vengeance.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her actually have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit viewing only because he views this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake .sake. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men who owed him as little as ten yen and leaving his fresh corpse in front of the man's son,[[note]] He and his son were also the only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit viewing this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake . Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men murdered a man who owed him as little as ten yen and leaving leaves his fresh corpse in front of the man's son,[[note]] his son, which is implied to be regular business for him.[[note]] He and his son were also the only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit viewing this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake . Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men who owed him as little as ten yen and leaving his fresh corpse in front of the man's son,[[note]] He and his son were also the only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit viewing this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake . Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men who owed him as little as ten yen and leaving his fresh corpse in front of the man's son,[[note]] He and his son were also the only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit viewing this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake . Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga several times. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]
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** Ginza started as a pretty violent CowboyCop who had a habit of killing [[AssholeVictim(deserving)criminals]] she came across and tried to blackmail Saiga into sleeping with her. Disturbing stuff overall, but made less cringeworthy as it could've been given the deaths were played for dark laughs, and Saiga wasn't especially bothered by her blackmail and got the better of her anyway. However... it becomes clear she has a very unhealthy obsession with Saiga and eventually trades Kagura to her abusive mother in return for "keeping" him. She then proceeds to hit him with her car, ''rape'' him while he's unconscious while questioning why "she's not good enough for him",([[SarcasmMode How her plight tugs at the heartstrings...]]) and lock him up until he decides to be with her. Later on, the show attempted a HeelRealization, but most would say it was just a ''little'' too late for her to realize her treatment of an innocent girl and of course her little rape session was wrong.

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** Ginza started as a pretty violent CowboyCop who had a habit of killing [[AssholeVictim(deserving)criminals]] [[AssholeVictim deserving criminals]] she came across and tried to blackmail Saiga into sleeping with her. Disturbing stuff overall, but made less cringeworthy as it could've been given the deaths were played for dark laughs, and Saiga wasn't especially bothered by her blackmail and got the better of her anyway. However... it becomes clear she has a very unhealthy obsession with Saiga and eventually trades Kagura to her abusive mother in return for "keeping" him. She then proceeds to hit him with her car, repeatedly ''rape'' him while he's unconscious while questioning why "she's not good enough for him",([[SarcasmMode How her plight tugs at the heartstrings...]]) and lock him up until he decides to be with her. Later on, the show attempted a HeelRealization, but most would say it was just a ''little'' too late for her to realize her treatment of an innocent girl and of course her little rape session was sessions were wrong.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men who owed him as little as ten yen and leaving his fresh corpse in front of the man's son,[[note]] He and his son were also the only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her as a semi-SexSlave. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga. The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men who owed him as little as ten yen and leaving his fresh corpse in front of the man's son,[[note]] He and his son were also the only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit viewing this as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her as a semi-SexSlave.in his club, in her case seemingly believing she's being used for sex and only takes issue with the possibility that Suitengu himself was sleeping with her, and only out of jealousy's sake . Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga. Saiga several times. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men who owed him as little as ten yen and leaving his fresh corpse in front of the man's son,[[note]] He and his son were also the only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her as a semi-SexSlave. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men who owed him as little as ten yen and leaving his fresh corpse in front of the man's son,[[note]] He and his son were also the only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her as a semi-SexSlave. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]
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** [[DirtyCop Chief Ekoda]] is the head of the Tokyo Police Department, who hides a secret fetish: He has a thing for legs. In fact, while a member of Suitengu's Roppongi Club, Ekoda took the chance to satisfy his feitshes by kidnapping women, holding them hostage and then cutting their legs off before preserving them as trophies, molesting and killing the women himself. His first two victims were his own wife and daughter. Later in the series, Ekoda kidnaps [[DarkActionGirl Ginza Hibari]] and tries to do the same to her before she frees herself. Ekoda is set apart by being a [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters completely human monster]], and his insane excesses make even the hardened Ginza [[HeelRealization reevaluate everything she had done to this point]].

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** [[DirtyCop Chief Ekoda]] is the head of the Tokyo Police Department, who hides a secret fetish: He has a thing for legs. In fact, while a member of Suitengu's Roppongi Club, Ekoda took the chance to satisfy his feitshes by kidnapping women, holding them hostage and then cutting their legs off before preserving them as trophies, molesting and killing the women himself. His first two victims were his own wife and daughter. Later in the series, Ekoda kidnaps [[DarkActionGirl Ginza Hibari]] and tries to do the same to her before she frees herself. Ekoda is set apart by being a [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters completely human monster]], and his insane excesses make even the hardened Ginza [[HeelRealization reevaluate everything she had done to this point]].monster.]]



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men who owed him as little as ten yen in front of the man's son,[[note]] He and his son were also the only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her as a semi-SexSlave. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men who owed him as little as ten yen and leaving his fresh corpse in front of the man's son,[[note]] He and his son were also the only ones there. Had he let this slide, no one but them would have known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and again, lets Suitengu use her as a semi-SexSlave. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men who owed him as little as ten yen (granted, that's probably because his {{Masquerade}} forces him to act EvilIsPetty for the Roppongi Club), and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and worst of all, lets Suitengu use her as a semi-SexSlave. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Pretty much any villain the show tries to make sympathetic, simply because of [[MoralEventHorizon how ''far'' they go,]] how many of their crimes tend to be completely unnecessary, how little(if any) remorse they show for said crimes, and how their reasons for their actions come off as utter Wangst, especially in proportion to their deeds. Suitengu's supposed to be pitied because his sister died years ago, despite the fact that he murders men who owed him as little as ten yen (granted, that's probably because in front of the man's son,[[note]] He and his {{Masquerade}} forces him to act EvilIsPetty for son were also the Roppongi Club), and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While only ones there. Had he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her let this slide, no one but them would have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.known.[[/note]]. and uses Kagura as a semi-SexSlave in his club [[note]]While he does invoke EvenEvilHasStandards against making her have sex, he still forces her to have make-out sessions -- albeit as a NecessaryEvil to create more Euphorics.[[/note]]. Shinzen's supposed to be pitied because her husband ran out on her when she was pregnant, and she, while still absolutely ''gorgeous'' is very, very slowly losing her looks, despite the fact that she humiliates, hits, and starves her own daughter and worst of all, again, lets Suitengu use her as a semi-SexSlave. Ginza's the most Egregious example of all. She's supposed to be pitied because... her boyfriend doesn't want to bang her despite the fact that she gives Kagura back to her abusers, then abducts and ''rapes'' Saiga. [[UnfortunateImplications The show actually tries to portray her as a JerkassWoobie ''during'' her rape of Saiga.]]

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