History YMMV / SpartacusBloodAndSand

23rd Apr '17 6:33:45 PM Stevebob
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* TakeThatScrappy: A minor example, but in ''War of the Damned'', after finding out that Naevia [[spoiler: wrongfully killed his friend Atticus for helping prisoners to escape]], a furious Gannicus finally confronts her over her actions and calls her a "mad bitch", mirroring what many viewers were thinking at this point.

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* TakeThatScrappy: A minor example, but in ''War of the Damned'', after finding out that Naevia [[spoiler: wrongfully killed his friend Atticus Attius for helping prisoners to escape]], a furious Gannicus finally confronts her over her actions and calls her a "mad bitch", mirroring what many viewers were thinking at this point.
23rd Apr '17 6:29:26 PM Stevebob
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* TakeThatScrappy: A minor example, but in ''War of the Damned'', after finding out that Naevia [[spoiler: wrongfully killed his friend Atticus for helping prisoners to escape]], a furious Gannicus finally confronts her over her actions, calls her a "mad bitch" and then proceeds to punch her, mirroring what many viewers were thinking at this point.

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* TakeThatScrappy: A minor example, but in ''War of the Damned'', after finding out that Naevia [[spoiler: wrongfully killed his friend Atticus for helping prisoners to escape]], a furious Gannicus finally confronts her over her actions, actions and calls her a "mad bitch" and then proceeds to punch her, bitch", mirroring what many viewers were thinking at this point.
23rd Apr '17 6:26:23 PM Stevebob
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23rd Apr '17 6:26:21 PM Stevebob
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* TakeThatScrappy: A minor example, but in ''War of the Damned'', after finding out that Naevia [[spoiler: wrongfully killed his friend Atticus for helping prisoners to escape]], a furious Gannicus finally confronts her over her actions, calls her a "mad bitch" and then proceeds to punch her, mirroring what many viewers were thinking at this point.
* TheScrappy: Naevia, for many viewers, especially in ''War of the Damned''. See ReplacementScrappy above. Barca can be seen as one too, for reasons outlined under UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below, [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap although his final episode made him more sympathetic in some viewers' eyes]].
20th Apr '17 3:19:14 AM Stevebob
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* FanPreferredCouple: A fair few fans prefer Melitta with Gannicus than Oenomaus, [[ShipToShipCombat though others will vehemently disagree]]. A few viewers TakeAThirdOption by [[OneTrueThreesome shipping all three together]]. It's even messier by ''War of the Damned'' (see ShipToShipCombat below).
14th Apr '17 12:03:12 AM Stevebob
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** Really, the saddest part of his death is the effect on [[spoiler: [[TheWoobie poor Pietros]]]], who certainly ''does not'' deserve any of the horrible things that happen to him in the aftermath of [[spoiler: Barca's]] death.



** Naevia, if you can ignore her Scrappy status. In addition to being a slave all her life, everyone she cares about have a habit of dying. She helped her traumatised best friend escape to freedom...only to be forced to watch her die when she was caught. Her other best friend was accidentally poisoned and her friend Pietros [[spoiler: [[DrivenToSuicide killed himself]]]] after being repeatedly raped, believing his lover had abandoned him, when Naevia knew but was sworn to secrecy that he was actually murdered. She finds happiness with Crixus, only to be raped by Ashur, then beaten and humiliated by a jealous Lucretia and separated from her lover. Naevia then endures an absolutely horrific TraumaCongaLine, in which she sent from one dominius to another and repeatedly raped; on one occasion, a seemingly kindly dominus gave her food and comfort and let her finally feel safe...only to sadistically rape and torture her that same night whilst his family was sleeping. At the end of it, Naevia was then sold to the mines and forced to do hard labour. She is left severely traumatised, seeing herself as DefiledForever and even feeling she would be better off dead. Though she gets over this somewhat, her trauma turns her into a JerkAss BloodKnight who slips dangerously close to AxCrazy territory. She doesn't snap out of it until [[spoiler: she is [[MadeToWatch forced to watch as Crixus is killed in front of her]], robbing her of the man she loves most and the happy future she dreamt of with him]], before being sent back to the rest of the rebels with [[spoiler: her lover's ''decapitated head'']]. And then, she is [[spoiler: killed in the same way as her friend Diona along with most of her remaining friends and allies, with her killer mockingly referring to her as a "slave" moments before he stabs her through the neck and leaves her to bleed out]]. Naevia may have been an absolute pain in the ass at times, especially in ''War of the Damned'', but considering all that she's been through, it's hard not to pity her by the end.

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** Naevia, if you can ignore her Scrappy status. In addition to being a slave all her life, everyone she cares about have has a habit of dying. She helped her traumatised best friend escape to freedom...only to be forced to watch her die when she was caught. Her other best friend was accidentally poisoned and her friend Pietros [[spoiler: [[DrivenToSuicide killed himself]]]] after being repeatedly raped, believing his lover had abandoned him, when Naevia knew but was sworn to secrecy that he was [[spoiler: actually murdered. murdered]]. She finds happiness with Crixus, only to be [[RapeAsDrama raped by Ashur, Ashur]], then beaten and humiliated by [[GreenEyedMonster a jealous Lucretia Lucretia]] and separated from her lover. Naevia then endures an absolutely horrific TraumaCongaLine, in which she sent from one dominius to another and repeatedly raped; on one occasion, a seemingly kindly dominus gave her food and comfort and let her finally feel safe...only to sadistically rape and torture her that same night whilst his family was sleeping. At the end of it, Naevia was then sold to the mines and forced to do hard labour. She is left severely traumatised, seeing herself as DefiledForever and even feeling she would be better off dead. Though she gets over this somewhat, [[FreudianExcuse her trauma turns her her]] into a JerkAss BloodKnight who slips dangerously close to AxCrazy territory. She doesn't snap out of it until [[spoiler: she is [[MadeToWatch forced to watch ForcedToWatch as Crixus is killed in front of her]], robbing her of the man she loves most and the [[TragicDream happy future she dreamt of with him]], him]]]], before being sent back to the rest of the rebels with [[spoiler: her lover's ''decapitated head'']]. And then, she is [[spoiler: killed in the same way as her friend Diona along with most of her remaining friends and allies, with her killer [[KickTheDog mockingly referring to her as a "slave" "slave"]] moments before he stabs her through the neck and leaves her to bleed out]]. Naevia may have been an absolute pain in the ass at times, especially in ''War of the Damned'', but considering all that she's been through, it's hard not to pity her by the end.
13th Apr '17 11:46:22 PM Stevebob
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** Diona, who undergoes a spectacular TraumaCongaLine that seems to have ended in her emancipation. It hasn't.

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** Diona, who undergoes a spectacular TraumaCongaLine that seems to have ended in her emancipation. [[YankTheDogsChain It hasn't.hasn't]].
** Naevia, if you can ignore her Scrappy status. In addition to being a slave all her life, everyone she cares about have a habit of dying. She helped her traumatised best friend escape to freedom...only to be forced to watch her die when she was caught. Her other best friend was accidentally poisoned and her friend Pietros [[spoiler: [[DrivenToSuicide killed himself]]]] after being repeatedly raped, believing his lover had abandoned him, when Naevia knew but was sworn to secrecy that he was actually murdered. She finds happiness with Crixus, only to be raped by Ashur, then beaten and humiliated by a jealous Lucretia and separated from her lover. Naevia then endures an absolutely horrific TraumaCongaLine, in which she sent from one dominius to another and repeatedly raped; on one occasion, a seemingly kindly dominus gave her food and comfort and let her finally feel safe...only to sadistically rape and torture her that same night whilst his family was sleeping. At the end of it, Naevia was then sold to the mines and forced to do hard labour. She is left severely traumatised, seeing herself as DefiledForever and even feeling she would be better off dead. Though she gets over this somewhat, her trauma turns her into a JerkAss BloodKnight who slips dangerously close to AxCrazy territory. She doesn't snap out of it until [[spoiler: she is [[MadeToWatch forced to watch as Crixus is killed in front of her]], robbing her of the man she loves most and the happy future she dreamt of with him]], before being sent back to the rest of the rebels with [[spoiler: her lover's ''decapitated head'']]. And then, she is [[spoiler: killed in the same way as her friend Diona along with most of her remaining friends and allies, with her killer mockingly referring to her as a "slave" moments before he stabs her through the neck and leaves her to bleed out]]. Naevia may have been an absolute pain in the ass at times, especially in ''War of the Damned'', but considering all that she's been through, it's hard not to pity her by the end.
** Kore. She's a slave, but has a pretty cushy life in spite of it. She's loved by her master's son, whom she [[LikeASonToMe seems to love as well]] and is deeply in love with Crassus, who treats her with great respect, affords her many privileges and allows her to speak her mind with him and even call him by his first name, showing he views her as an equal. Then, Tiberius [[spoiler: brutally rapes her, in revenge for his father forcing him to kill his friend]] and her whole life goes to shit. She's not only traumatised, but struggles to tell Crassus because she doesn't want to ruin his relationship with his son and because she's afraid of what Tiberius will do; he at one point threatens to [[spoiler: rape her again and tell Crassus ''she'' tried to ''seduce him'']]. When she finally works up the courage to tell Crassus, he reveals he intends to leave her in Sinuessa as an advisor to Tiberius, believing he is honoring her with such a respected position, and then tells her that nothing Tiberius could do would make him turn from him. Kore, taking this to mean that Crassus would do nothing and not exactly jumping for joy at the prospect of being stuck alone with [[spoiler: her rapist]], flees to [[spoiler: [[ScrewThisImOutOfHere join the rebels]]]], even though she knows how much it will hurt Crassus. She doesn't have much fun with them either; upon learning she was once Crassus's slave, [[spoiler: Spartacus accuses her of being a spy and interrogates her until he is satisfied she is not]]. She eventually kills [[spoiler: Tiberius]] and then [[spoiler: rejoins Crassus, eventually being forced to come clean about killing his son and her reasons for doing so, sobbing the whole time over her ordeal and breaking Crassus's heart]]. And then, in the end, Crassus [[spoiler: has her crucified for her involvement with the rebels, despite having forgiven her reasons for doing so]].
13th Apr '17 10:38:33 PM Stevebob
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** In-universe examples include Gannicus's comments in ''Vengeance'' about how Spartacus is going to lead the Rebels to their deaths. Whilst it isn't really Spartacus's intention and he actually goes down trying to lead the Rebels to freedom, almost everyone who follows him does end up dying. Also, Gannicus's comment about not being a "martyr upon a cross", which doubles as ForeShadowing.
6th Apr '17 3:42:38 PM LondonKdS
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** In ''Gods of the Arena'': [[spoiler:Was Lucretia intending to kill Titus before the murder of Gaia, or was she just trying to make him ill enough to force him to seek healthier climes?]]
6th Apr '17 2:51:39 PM LondonKdS
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*** And this leads to Titus's Moral Event Horizon when he blames Lucretia and the victim for the aforesaid murder and forces her and Quintus to cover it up.
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