History YMMV / Space1999

12th Jul '15 2:06:14 PM kchishol
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* FridgeHorror:
** With every death of any of the irreplaceable 311 people on Moonbase Alpha, even RedShirt characters, and to a lesser extent the loss of equipment, the bleaker the isolated crew's chances of survival become through the series even as they helplessly drift out of control through space.
** Gets even worse when you think of episodes like "The Exiles", where a key plot element involves the fact that the Alpha life support system cannot support the 300 or so people on the base by that time. As a result, they are not only unable to [[spoiler: take in the Galosian exile criminals]], but they are also unable to ''permit any more births on the base''.
6th Jul '15 2:18:28 AM GnomeTitan
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** The episode "Space Brain" uses {{Music/GustavHolst}}'s "Mars, God of War" in its climax.

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** The episode "Space Brain" uses {{Music/GustavHolst}}'s Music/GustavHolst's "Mars, God of War" in its climax.
6th Jul '15 2:17:02 AM GnomeTitan
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** The episode "Space Brain" uses Holtz's "Mars, God of War" on its climax.

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** The episode "Space Brain" uses Holtz's {{Music/GustavHolst}}'s "Mars, God of War" on in its climax.
1st Jul '15 3:34:01 PM StFan
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: John and Victor's warm conversation as the moon approaches the Black Sun [[spoiler: and their conversation with the "cosmic intelligence" as they go through]].
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Barry Gray's scores for Season One.

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: John and Victor's warm conversation as the moon approaches the Black Sun [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and their conversation with the "cosmic intelligence" as they go through]].
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
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Barry Gray's scores for Season One.



** The episode "Space Brain" uses Holtz's "Mars, God Of War" on its climax.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Alan Carter was originally planned to be written out as part of the cast changes for Season Two. However, when the producers learned how popular he was with viewers, he was kept on and given an expanded role.

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** The episode "Space Brain" uses Holtz's "Mars, God Of of War" on its climax.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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Alan Carter was originally planned to be written out as part of the cast changes for Season Two. However, when the producers learned how popular he was with viewers, he was kept on and given an expanded role.



* FridgeHorror: With every death of any of the irreplaceable 311 people on Moonbase Alpha, even RedShirt characters, and to a lesser extent the loss of equipment, the bleaker the isolated crew's chances of survival become through the series even as they helplessly drift out of control through space.

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* FridgeHorror: FridgeHorror:
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With every death of any of the irreplaceable 311 people on Moonbase Alpha, even RedShirt characters, and to a lesser extent the loss of equipment, the bleaker the isolated crew's chances of survival become through the series even as they helplessly drift out of control through space.



* IdiotPlot: the second season, especially - so much so that even Martin Landau complained (in particular, he hated "All That Glisters"[[note]]as did the rest of the cast[[/note]] so much that he threatened to quit).

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* IdiotPlot: the The second season, especially - -- so much so that even Martin Landau complained (in particular, he hated "All That Glisters"[[note]]as did the rest of the cast[[/note]] so much that he threatened to quit).



* SpecialEffectsFailure: Allegedly thanks to the low budget; inevitably, it was nicknamed ''Space: £19.99''
** At the time, it was the most expensive TV series ever made and the effects still stand up today, so this is probably an indication that critics didn't check their facts.
*** The spaceship fx are extremely high quality, and usually achieved using double-exposure rather than blue screen. This means the images are captured on the original negative and don't suffer from extra grain, although this does limit the angles that can be used. On the other hand the show does have some extremely poor matte paintings.
** As has been said, the overall production value was very high, approaching feature film quality in many areas. The fly in the ointment is the writing; many cast members have made the point that the producers seemed more interested in the special effects than the scripts. That said, some of the actors rose above the material and there are some excellent character scenes, mainly those involving Barry Morse as Professor Victor Bergman.
** There is a certain dissonance between good and bad special effects. Obviously, some viewers remember the good ones and other the bad ones. As an example, in the first-season episode "Dragon's Domain", we see a number of abandonded spaceships -- created as very detailed and realistic-looking models -- orbiting a supposedly Earth-like planet that looks more like a brightly-coloured plasticine ball (perhaps from a third-grader's art project) than any real planet.
** The eponymous "Dragon" of the episode mentioned above is a very static TentacleMonster that appears stuck in a doorway. In some shots it does look rather nightmarish, but the fight between it and the protagonist looks very much like a stage fight, with an actor trying to look like he's fighting obviously platic tentacles.
** Just a couple of years later, the StarWars movies came along and changed everything. Compared to StarWars and later productions, {{Space 1999}} does indeed look a bit on the cheap side.
*** Star Wars made ALL sci-fi on a TV budget - and indeed, an awful lot of SF movies - look cheap. That does not alter the fact that Space:1999 was, at the time, the most expensive TV series ever made and many of the effects do still stand up far better than would be expected for a mid-70s TV SF show.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: SpecialEffectsFailure:
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Allegedly thanks to the low budget; inevitably, it was nicknamed ''Space: £19.99''
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99''. At the time, it was the most expensive TV series ever made and the effects still stand up today, so this is probably an indication that critics didn't check their facts.
*** ** The spaceship fx FX are extremely high quality, and usually achieved using double-exposure rather than blue screen. This means the images are captured on the original negative and don't suffer from extra grain, although this does limit the angles that can be used. On the other hand the show does have some extremely poor matte paintings.
** As has been said, the overall production value was very high, approaching feature film feature-film quality in many areas. The fly in the ointment is the writing; many cast members have made the point that the producers seemed more interested in the special effects than the scripts. That said, some of the actors rose above the material and there are some excellent character scenes, mainly those involving Barry Morse as Professor Victor Bergman.
** There is a certain dissonance between good and bad special effects. Obviously, some viewers remember the good ones and other the bad ones. As an example, in the first-season episode "Dragon's Domain", we see a number of abandonded abandoned spaceships -- created as very detailed and realistic-looking models -- orbiting a supposedly Earth-like planet that looks more like a brightly-coloured brightly-colored plasticine ball (perhaps from a third-grader's art project) than any real planet.
** The eponymous "Dragon" of the episode mentioned above is a very static TentacleMonster that appears stuck in a doorway. In some shots it does look rather nightmarish, but the fight between it and the protagonist looks very much like a stage fight, with an actor trying to look like he's fighting obviously platic plastic tentacles.
** Just a couple of years later, the StarWars ''Franchise/StarWars'' movies came along and changed everything. Compared to StarWars ''Star Wars'' and later productions, {{Space 1999}} ''Space: 1999'' does indeed look a bit on the cheap side.
*** Star Wars
side. ''Star Wars'' made ALL sci-fi on a TV budget - -- and indeed, an awful lot of SF movies - -- look cheap. That does not alter the fact that Space:1999 ''Space: 1999'' was, at the time, the most expensive TV series ever made and many of the effects do still stand up far better than would be expected for a mid-70s TV SF show.show.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Whatever else you can say about the series as a whole, you can at least admit that the model work is top-notch (as was usual of a Creator/GerryAnderson production).



* The whole series might actually make more sense if viewed as [[RecycledINSPACE Fantasy IN SPACE]] rather than ScienceFiction.

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* WizardsFromOuterSpace: The whole series might actually make more sense if viewed as [[RecycledINSPACE [[RecycledInSpace Fantasy IN SPACE]] rather than ScienceFiction.



** Many of the plots are about inner journeys, mind control, possession - all classic Fantasy topics. As is fighting against the MonsterOfTheWeek.
** And Professor Bergman would fit better as a wise old wizard than as a scientist - he's almost never shown doing any actual science, or rational reasoning, but rather seems to have some mystical knowledge of what's going on.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Whatever else you can say about the series as a whole, you can at least admit that the model work is top-notch (as was usual of a GerryAnderson production).

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** Many of the plots are about inner journeys, mind control, possession - -- all classic Fantasy topics. As is fighting against the MonsterOfTheWeek.
** And Professor Bergman would fit better as a wise old wizard than as a scientist - -- he's almost never shown doing any actual science, or rational reasoning, but rather seems to have some mystical knowledge of what's going on.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Whatever else you can say about the series as a whole, you can at least admit that the model work is top-notch (as was usual of a GerryAnderson production).----
21st Feb '15 12:46:30 PM marcoasalazarm
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** The episode "Space Brain" uses Holtz's "Mars, God Of War" on its climax.
18th Feb '15 1:00:47 PM marcoasalazarm
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** Also [[TheProfessor Professor]] [[OmnidisciplinaryScientist Victor]] [[CoolOldGuy Bergman]]. The man was loved enough by fans that three of the official ExpandedUniverse novels ("Survival", "Alpha" and "Omega") showcase his (only briefly alluded on in a deleted scene) BusCrash between seasons ''and'' then go to work on bringing him BackFromTheDead. "Survival" was even liked enough by Bergman's actor (Barry Morse) that he wrote a foreword for it!
17th Feb '15 7:10:28 AM marcoasalazarm
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** And Professor Bergman would fit better as a wise old wizard than as a scientist - he's almost never shown doing any actual science, or rational reasoning, but rather seems to have some mystical knowledge of what's going on.

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** And Professor Bergman would fit better as a wise old wizard than as a scientist - he's almost never shown doing any actual science, or rational reasoning, but rather seems to have some mystical knowledge of what's going on.on.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Whatever else you can say about the series as a whole, you can at least admit that the model work is top-notch (as was usual of a GerryAnderson production).
20th Dec '14 5:29:48 AM Dunebasher
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*** Star Wars made ALL sci-fi on a TV budget look cheap. That does not alter the fact that Space:1999 was, at the time, the most expensive TV series ever made and many of the effects do still stand up far better than would be expected for a mid-70s TV SF show.

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*** Star Wars made ALL sci-fi on a TV budget - and indeed, an awful lot of SF movies - look cheap. That does not alter the fact that Space:1999 was, at the time, the most expensive TV series ever made and many of the effects do still stand up far better than would be expected for a mid-70s TV SF show.
20th Dec '14 5:28:55 AM Dunebasher
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*** Star Wars made ALL sci-fi on a TV budget look cheap. That does not alter the fact that Space:1999 was, at the time, the most expensive TV series ever made and many of the effects do still stand up far better than would be expected for a mid-70s TV SF show.
22nd Jun '14 3:28:40 AM GnomeTitan
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: Largely thanks to the low budget; inevitably, it was nicknamed ''Space: £19.99''

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: Largely Allegedly thanks to the low budget; inevitably, it was nicknamed ''Space: £19.99''


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** There is a certain dissonance between good and bad special effects. Obviously, some viewers remember the good ones and other the bad ones. As an example, in the first-season episode "Dragon's Domain", we see a number of abandonded spaceships -- created as very detailed and realistic-looking models -- orbiting a supposedly Earth-like planet that looks more like a brightly-coloured plasticine ball (perhaps from a third-grader's art project) than any real planet.
** The eponymous "Dragon" of the episode mentioned above is a very static TentacleMonster that appears stuck in a doorway. In some shots it does look rather nightmarish, but the fight between it and the protagonist looks very much like a stage fight, with an actor trying to look like he's fighting obviously platic tentacles.
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