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Removed the audience alienating era since.. in hindsight that's one of the most preferred eras roster-wise, it has too many positives to consider it a bad era, even moreso compared to the later phases of Lawl.


* AudienceAlienatingEra: Post-Morgan Era (2012, after Gaston and before Scanty/Kneesocks) falls under this compared to the other eras, as despite the much better presentation than the previous videos, falls a lot shorter in terms of explaining the movesets than even the Classic Era, mostly looking rushed in retrospect. Despite that, most of the newcomers introduced and chosen in this era are just as popular as other eras' characters, with mainly the videos from Billy Mays-Hank Hill being the ones falling flat in presentation.

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* AudienceAlienatingEra: Post-Morgan Era (2012, after Gaston and before Scanty/Kneesocks) falls under this compared AwesomenessWithdrawal: Lawl's infrequent uploads made it very prone to the other eras, as despite the much better presentation than the previous videos, falls a lot shorter in terms of explaining the movesets than even the Classic Era, mostly looking rushed in retrospect. Despite that, most of the newcomers introduced and chosen in this era are just as popular as other eras' characters, this, with mainly the its high quality videos from Billy Mays-Hank Hill being coming up less and less by each year, often with year-long hiatus, with most fans resorting to binging the old videos while waiting for new ones falling flat in presentation.to come out.



* SeasonalRot: Later eras from ''Lawl'' had quite the mixed feedback compared to the near-universal praise this series had in its heyday, with most of the entries of videos post-2015 being criticized for increasingly gimmicky movesets, and a strange animation style much different to the one used in 2012-2013. The last moveset video (Pyron) outright refused to have any lore in the Intro and Outro segments, likely foreshadowing that ''Lawl'' wouldn't be living much further.



* SpecialEffectsFailure: Back when they were released, the first four moveset videos looked impressive. Nowadays... well, it's best to say that Chincherrinas is a lot better at video editing now than he was in the past.

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Back when they were released, the first four moveset videos looked impressive. Nowadays... well, it's best to say that Chincherrinas is a lot better at video editing now than he was in the past.past.
** The animation style for the later Lawl videos opted to go for a more tweening-based approach, making movements feel far floatier with less momentum compared to the old videos.
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* BrokenBase: Villains Valley. My god, Villains Valley. For fans of The Frollo Show it was well-received. Lawl fans on the other hand absolutely hated it. Not only was the sudden inclusion of gore and Frollo Show esque MindScrew out of place, it also exploited serious real life controversies of the real Doug Walker making several people uncomfortable. It was not helped by the fact many of Chin's fans proceeded to attack and insult the critical fans and ignoring their very reasonable criticism. This split became even more divided after Chin uploaded a video in April 2024 making fun of people who critiqued Villains Valley, with many of his longtime fans feeling betrayed and permanently unsubscribing from him., while his less critical fanboys got even more vitriolic, starting to actively harass the original critics of Villains Valley and his later response.

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* BrokenBase: Villains Valley. My god, Villains Valley. For fans of The Frollo Show it was well-received. Lawl fans on the other hand absolutely hated it. Not only was the sudden inclusion of gore and Frollo Show esque MindScrew out of place, it also exploited serious real life controversies of the real Doug Walker making several people uncomfortable. It was not helped by the fact many of Chin's fans proceeded to attack and insult the critical fans and ignoring their very reasonable criticism. This split became even more divided after Chin uploaded a video in April 2024 making fun of people who critiqued Villains Valley, with many of his longtime fans feeling betrayed and permanently unsubscribing from him., him, while his less critical fanboys fans got even more vitriolic, starting to actively harass the original critics of Villains Valley and his later response.vitriolic.
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* BrokenBase: Villains Valley. My god, Villains Valley. For fans of The Frollo Show it was well-received. Lawl fans on the other hand absolutely hated it. Not only was the sudden inclusion of gore and Frollo Show esque MindScrew out of place, it also exploited serious real life controversies of the real Doug Walker making several people uncomfortable. It was not helped by the fact many of Chin's fans proceeded to attack and insult the critical fans and ignoring their very reasonable criticism. This split became even more divided after Chin uploaded a video in April 2024 making fun of people who critiqued Villains Valley, with many of his longtime fans feeling betrayed and permanently unsubscribing from him., while his less critical fanboys got even more vitriolic, starting to actively harass the original critics of Villains Valley and his later response.
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** Madotsuki's Balcony showing up tacked on to the end of the Real City level in Subspace Emissary was always hilariously out of place, with this sprited building standing nearby a realistic live-action city. Then come the dumped 0.04 beta of Videogame/YumeNikki resurfacing in 2021, we can actually see a reflection of the city around Madotsuki's balcony. And what do we see? [[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/286229484699648003/1182924797987012628/image.png?ex=65c71111&is=65b49c11&hm=f4c24dcda8596ee60d05ac73a20b0a63702b4c48d2a0c1e08d45d7ad0d20dc38& A realistic live-action city.]]

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** Madotsuki's Balcony showing up tacked on to the end of the Real City level in Subspace Emissary was always hilariously out of place, with this sprited building standing nearby a realistic live-action city. Then come the dumped 0.04 beta of Videogame/YumeNikki resurfacing in 2021, we can actually see a reflection of the city around Madotsuki's balcony. And what do we see? [[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/286229484699648003/1182924797987012628/image.png?ex=65c71111&is=65b49c11&hm=f4c24dcda8596ee60d05ac73a20b0a63702b4c48d2a0c1e08d45d7ad0d20dc38& [[https://tcrf.net/File:Yn_windowReflection.png A realistic live-action city.]]
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** Madotsuki's Balcony showing up tacked on to the end of the Real City level in Subspace Emissary was always hilariously out of place, with this sprited building standing nearby a realistic live-action city. Then come the dumped 0.04 beta of Videogame/YumeNikki resurfacing in 2021, we can actually see a reflection of the city around Madotsuki's balcony. And what do we see? [[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/286229484699648003/1182924797987012628/image.png?ex=65c71111&is=65b49c11&hm=f4c24dcda8596ee60d05ac73a20b0a63702b4c48d2a0c1e08d45d7ad0d20dc38& A realistic live-action city.]]

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* AdaptationDisplacement: You'll see more active fans of spin-offs of Lawl (like ''Lawl Beatdown'' or ''Lawl What-If'') despite the original one's longer presence. Due to many year-spanning hiatus beginning from 2014 onwards and the author focusing his attention more with ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'', the medium of ''Smash Bros Lawl'' is generally better known for its multitude of spin-off videos than the original one.
* AudienceAlienatingEra: Post-Morgan Era (2012, after Gaston and before Scanty/Kneesocks) falls under this compared to the other eras, as despite the much better presentation than the previous videos, falls a lot shorter in terms of explaining the movesets than even the Classic Era, mostly looking rushed in retrospect. Despite that, most of the newcomers introduced and chosen in this era are just as popular as other eras' characters.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: You'll see more active fans of spin-offs of Lawl (like ''Lawl Beatdown'' or ''Lawl What-If'') NOVA'') despite the original one's longer presence. Due to many year-spanning hiatus beginning from 2014 onwards and the author focusing his attention more with ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'', the medium of ''Smash Bros Lawl'' is generally better known for its multitude of fanmade spin-off videos than the original one.
one, given how active the fandom is making moveset videos.
* AudienceAlienatingEra: Post-Morgan Era (2012, after Gaston and before Scanty/Kneesocks) falls under this compared to the other eras, as despite the much better presentation than the previous videos, falls a lot shorter in terms of explaining the movesets than even the Classic Era, mostly looking rushed in retrospect. Despite that, most of the newcomers introduced and chosen in this era are just as popular as other eras' characters.characters, with mainly the videos from Billy Mays-Hank Hill being the ones falling flat in presentation.



* FanficFuel: Given the formulaic format of the videos, ''Lawl'' itself became a very easy format to make fanmade videos for, given it easily allowed for any fan to put their favorite character from any medium into ''Smash Bros'', so it's no wonder many fans took it to themselves to make their own versions of ''Lawl''.



%%** Ib's Final Smash.
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%%** ** Ib's Final Smash.
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Smash, unsurprisingly given the original version of it is still one of the most frightening scenes of the game. Every player has to see the stage darken as a giant creepy doll looms slowly from a portrait, with foreboding bells with each crawl, and once time runs out to find the exit, everyone dies.
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Madotsuki's and Yomika too.too, with the player slowly pulled in by Kyuukyuukun's passage in complete silence in Mado's case, and the Stomach Overlord sending lots of staring eyes at players, cursing one of them to hell, in Yomi's case.


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** World Taste, the stage based on Wilford's Lair from WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow, borders on this and NauseaFuel, given the nightmarish images of realistic body parts making up the stage's platforms.


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*SpecialEffectsFailure: Back when they were released, the first four moveset videos looked impressive. Nowadays... well, it's best to say that Chincherrinas is a lot better at video editing now than he was in the past.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Back when they were released, the first four moveset videos looked impressive. Nowadays... well, it's best to say that Chincherrinas is a lot better at video editing now than he was in the past.



* TheWoobie: Madotsuki, judging by her back story on her trophy. And in the end of her classic mode, her wish is implied to be [[spoiler: [[DrivenToSuicide The staircase next to her balcony]], seen at the end of ''YumeNikki'']]

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* TheWoobie: Madotsuki, judging by her back story on her trophy. And in the end of her classic mode, her wish is implied to be [[spoiler: [[DrivenToSuicide The staircase next to her balcony]], seen at the end of ''YumeNikki'']]''YumeNikki'']]
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The long awaited Villains Valley hasn't been very warmly received by longtime fans due to taking several steps into DarkerAndEdgier territory more akin to that of ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'', delving more into that series' usual BodyHorror and realistic violence that ''Lawl'' mostly stuck away from. With almost every cutscene relying more on showing the characters' breakdowns and sufferings than advancing the plot or leading to gameplay, emphasizing much more on Doug Walker's more controversial outings in RealLife. Many longtime fans were bummed out of Subspace Emissary changing focus in favor of the already alienating direction that later episodes of ''The Frollo Show'' took.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The long awaited Villains Valley hasn't been very warmly received by longtime fans due to taking several steps into DarkerAndEdgier territory more akin to that of ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'', delving more into that series' usual BodyHorror and realistic violence that ''Lawl'' mostly stuck away from. With almost every cutscene relying more on showing the characters' breakdowns and sufferings than advancing the plot or leading to gameplay, emphasizing much more on Doug Walker's more controversial outings in RealLife. Many longtime fans were bummed out of Subspace Emissary changing focus in favor of the already alienating direction that later episodes of ''The Frollo Show'' took. Eventually the reception towards the Ronald Monks' storyline caused ''chincherrinas'' to drop the story mode in November 30th, 2023.
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*** A commonly used gimmick in earlier spin-off movesets was for a move to be usable Once Per Stock or moves only lasting a certain amount of times. Banjo in ''Ultimate'' would feature such a gimmick for his Side B, becoming useless after 5 uses.
*** With Panty & Stocking being the most well known tag-team of Lawl, Pyra and Mythra's reintroduction of the technique led chincherrinas to make [[https://twitter.com/chincherrinas/status/1362769988709351427 an edit based on it]], (though lore-wise they're still both the same person like Zelda/Sheik rather than separate characters like the two angels).
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*** Don Ramón's side special featured a move allowing you to steal away an enemy projectile to throw it as an item, which works similarly to how Villager's Pocket works in the 4th game.
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* AudienceAlienatingEra: Post-Morgan Era (2012, after Gaston and before Scanty/Kneesocks) falls under this compared to the other eras, as despite the much better presentation than the previous videos, falls a lot shorter in terms of explaining the movesets than even the Classic Era, mostly looking rushed in retrospect.

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* AudienceAlienatingEra: Post-Morgan Era (2012, after Gaston and before Scanty/Kneesocks) falls under this compared to the other eras, as despite the much better presentation than the previous videos, falls a lot shorter in terms of explaining the movesets than even the Classic Era, mostly looking rushed in retrospect. Despite that, most of the newcomers introduced and chosen in this era are just as popular as other eras' characters.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Villains Valley takes many cues of the author's ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'' and dedicates a good chunk of its runtime to much more bleak storytelling exploring The Nostalgia Critic's succumb into Doug Walker based and delving ''much'' more on existentialist horror compared to every other level of the story mode.
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*** Also as a bonus round, a poll on youtube was made to decide Ib's partner in a team battle for her classic mode (though the point of the polls weren't revealed until the last vote). The King won.

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*** Also as a bonus round, a poll on youtube [=YouTube=] was made to decide Ib's partner in a team battle for her classic mode (though the point of the polls weren't revealed until the last vote). The King won.
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** One of the earlier spin-offs was called ''Lawl Ultimate'', named after one of the popular fan-names for ''Smash 4''. It was notorious for its poorly explained movesets and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOlVx4Px7lY editing]], which became a huge in-joke in the community for years thanks its SoBadItsGood status and its status as one of the worse Lawl spin-offs. Come ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate'''s reveal using the same suffix as this spin-off, and the jokes wrote themselves.
* MemeticMutation: Despite coming from one of the earlier spin-offs, Angry Joe's moveset saw a resurgence in popularity thanks Music/SiIvaGunner using it as one of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ap7I_CAQPo&ab_channel=SiIvaGunner their rips,]] thanks in part to its SoBadItsGood quality and turning Angry Joe into a semi-recurring character.
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* LazyArtist: In the Subspace Epoch, Chincherrinas cuts out most of the regular level footage, and the parts that are shown are very short. He openly admitted that all he's really interested in showing during the ''Subspace Emissary'' videos are the story, so it's somewhat justified. [[ZigZaggedTrope But then in the early Classic Mode videos, he cuts out the entirety of every single fight, not even allowing a demonstration of the final boss]]. He's confirmed that he won't do that anymore in upcoming Classic Mode videos.
** While Villains Valley's gorgeous visuals can't be understated, the level clocks at about 20 seconds of total gameplay, with most of its runtime used mostly for very long cutscenes.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:
** A lot of the chosen songs for the stages and moveset videos are nice. ''Brawl'''s good music is present as well.

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AudienceAlienatingEra: Post-Morgan Era (2012, after Gaston and before Scanty/Kneesocks) falls under this compared to the other eras, as despite the much better presentation than the previous videos, falls a lot shorter in terms of explaining the movesets than even the Classic Era, mostly looking rushed in retrospect.
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A lot of the chosen songs for the stages and moveset videos are nice. ''Brawl'''s good music is present as well.



* DorkAge: Post-Morgan Era (2012, after Gaston and before Scanty/Kneesocks) falls under this compared to the other eras, as despite the much better presentation than the previous videos, falls a lot shorter in terms of explaining the movesets than even the Classic Era, mostly looking rushed in retrospect.
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process


* SoBadItWasBetter: During the fallout of Villain’s Valley, some commenters commented they felt the video’s editing was too smooth compared to older videos, and stated this caused an UncannyValley effect for them.

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* SoBadItWasBetter: During the fallout of Villain’s Valley, some commenters commented they felt the video’s editing was too smooth compared to older videos, and stated this caused an UncannyValley uncanny effect for them.
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*** [[WesternAnimation/StreetFighter Bison, Guile,]] and [[WesternAnimation/MegaMan Dr. Wily]] were included in Lawl before [[Franchise/StreetFighter the protagonists]] [[Franchise/MegaMan of their series]] joined [[Videogame/SuperSmashBros Smash]].

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*** [[WesternAnimation/StreetFighter Bison, Guile,]] and [[WesternAnimation/MegaMan [[WesternAnimation/MegaManRubySpears Dr. Wily]] were included in Lawl before [[Franchise/StreetFighter the protagonists]] [[Franchise/MegaMan of their series]] joined [[Videogame/SuperSmashBros Smash]].



*** Guile and Dr. Wily became assist trophies in ''[[Videogame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate Super Smash Bros Ultimate]]'', years after their ''Lawl'' movesets.

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*** Guile and Dr. Wily became assist trophies in ''[[Videogame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate Super Smash Bros Ultimate]]'', ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate'', years after their ''Lawl'' movesets.
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* SoBadItWasBetter: During the fallout of Villain’s Valley, some commenters commented they felt the video’s editing was too smooth compared to older videos, and stated this caused an UncannyValley effect for them.
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** In Villains Valley, Nostalgia Critic gets a MindRape [[ItMakesSenseInContext from a syringe]] as he remembers all the failings out he had over his career, prompting him to inject the contents of the syringe after it tells him to embrace the real him, transforming him into Doug. Try as much as they could, they can't get him to snap out of it before he heads over to a screening of ''WebVideo/DemoReel'' and getting a further MindRape where he sees [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]], [[WebVideo/TheAngryJoeShow Angry Joe]], and WebVideo/{{Phelous}} fade away as he's left to mourn to himself ([[FreezeFrameBonus and]] [[WebVideo/GuruLarryAndWez Guru Larry]]). This hits especially hard if you were a Channel Awesome fan during the early part of TheNewTens.
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The long awaited Villains Valley hasn't been very warmly received by longtime fans due to taking several steps into DarkerAndEdgier territory more akin to that of ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'', delving more into that series' usual BodyHorror and realistic violence that ''Lawl'' mostly stuck away from. With almost every cutscene relying more on showing the characters' breakdowns and sufferings than advancing the plot or leading to gameplay, emphasizing much more on Doug Walker's more controversial outings in RealLife. Many longtime fans were bummed out of Subspace Emissary changing focus in favor of the already alienating direction that latter episodes of ''The Frollo Show'' took.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The long awaited Villains Valley hasn't been very warmly received by longtime fans due to taking several steps into DarkerAndEdgier territory more akin to that of ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'', delving more into that series' usual BodyHorror and realistic violence that ''Lawl'' mostly stuck away from. With almost every cutscene relying more on showing the characters' breakdowns and sufferings than advancing the plot or leading to gameplay, emphasizing much more on Doug Walker's more controversial outings in RealLife. Many longtime fans were bummed out of Subspace Emissary changing focus in favor of the already alienating direction that latter later episodes of ''The Frollo Show'' took.

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** While Villains Valley's gorgeous visuals can't be understated, the level clocks at about 20 seconds of total gameplay, with most of its runtime used mostly for very long cutscenes.



* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The long awaited Villain Valley hasn't been very warmly received by longtime fans due to taking several steps into DarkerAndEdgier territory more akin to that of ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'', delving more into that series' usual BodyHorror and realistic violence that ''Lawl'' mostly stuck away from. With almost every cutscene relying more on showing the characters' breakdowns and sufferings than advancing the plot or leading to gameplay, emphasizing much more on Doug Walker's more controversial outings in RealLife. Many longtime fans were bummed out of Subspace Emissary changing focus in favor of the already alienating direction that latter episodes of ''The Frollo Show'' took.

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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The long awaited Villain Villains Valley hasn't been very warmly received by longtime fans due to taking several steps into DarkerAndEdgier territory more akin to that of ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'', delving more into that series' usual BodyHorror and realistic violence that ''Lawl'' mostly stuck away from. With almost every cutscene relying more on showing the characters' breakdowns and sufferings than advancing the plot or leading to gameplay, emphasizing much more on Doug Walker's more controversial outings in RealLife. Many longtime fans were bummed out of Subspace Emissary changing focus in favor of the already alienating direction that latter episodes of ''The Frollo Show'' took.took.
* TrueArtIsAngsty: Villains Valley takes many cues of the author's ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'' and dedicates a good chunk of its runtime to much more bleak storytelling exploring The Nostalgia Critic's succumb into Doug Walker based and delving ''much'' more on existentialist horror compared to every other level of the story mode.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: You'll see more active fans of spin-offs of Lawl (like ''Lawl Beatdown'' or ''Lawl What-If'') despite the original one's longer presence. Due to many year-spanning hiatus beginning from 2014 onwards and the author focusing his attention more with ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'', the medium of ''Smash Bros Lawl'' is generally better known for its multitude of spin-off videos than the original one.


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* DorkAge: Post-Morgan Era (2012, after Gaston and before Scanty/Kneesocks) falls under this compared to the other eras, as despite the much better presentation than the previous videos, falls a lot shorter in terms of explaining the movesets than even the Classic Era, mostly looking rushed in retrospect.


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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The long awaited Villain Valley hasn't been very warmly received by longtime fans due to taking several steps into DarkerAndEdgier territory more akin to that of ''WebAnimation/TheFrolloShow'', delving more into that series' usual BodyHorror and realistic violence that ''Lawl'' mostly stuck away from. With almost every cutscene relying more on showing the characters' breakdowns and sufferings than advancing the plot or leading to gameplay, emphasizing much more on Doug Walker's more controversial outings in RealLife. Many longtime fans were bummed out of Subspace Emissary changing focus in favor of the already alienating direction that latter episodes of ''The Frollo Show'' took.
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** [[WebVideo/TheIrateGamer Game Genie]] appears to be these. He's only vulnerable without his ghostly tail, which disappears at random, whenever he's not using powerful explosion attacks. Even when he is vulnerable, he's trying to wallop you. ''And he's one of the first fights of the very second level''.

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** [[WebVideo/TheIrateGamer Game Genie]] appears to be these.this. He's only vulnerable without his ghostly tail, which disappears at random, whenever he's not using powerful explosion attacks. Even when he is vulnerable, he's trying to wallop you. ''And he's one of the first fights of the very second level''.
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** Codec Snake's moveset intro starts with him leaving a bus filled with characters from ''The Frollo Show'' that aren't in the ''Lawl'' roster, which includes Mephiles and Fegelein. Years later, they ended up actually joining the ''Lawl'' roster by fans' demands.

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** Codec Snake's moveset intro starts with him leaving a bus filled with characters from ''The Frollo Show'' that aren't in the ''Lawl'' roster, which includes Mephiles and Fegelein. Years later, they the latter two ended up actually joining the ''Lawl'' roster by fans' demands.

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