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* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Quevedo]] from The Cannon Law.

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-->'''Gayle:''' Ain't you just the proper budding little Na-po-lee-own?\\

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*** Made doubly so when the battle that cements his status... Happens in a snow storm. And just to cap the climax on that, one of Napoleon's most famous battles, at Eylau in early 1807 against the Russians, was also fought in a snowstorm...and Stearns actually did ''better'' at Dresden than Napoleon at Eylau, which was basically a draw for him (the first major battle of his career that he hadn't won).

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*** Made doubly so when the battle that cements his status... Happens happens in a snow storm. And just to cap the climax on that, one of Napoleon's most famous battles, at Eylau in early 1807 against the Russians, was also fought in a snowstorm... and Stearns actually did ''better'' at Dresden than Napoleon at Eylau, which was basically a draw for him (the first major battle of his career that he hadn't won).



* HomeGrownHero: An American coal mining community, of all places, gets transported back in time and plunged into [[UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar Thirty Years War-era]] [[UsefulNotes/TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Thuringia]], inadvertently injecting the war-stricken Europe with some modern American values? Right.

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* HomeGrownHero: An American coal mining community, of all places, gets transported back in time and plunged into [[UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar Thirty Years War-era]] UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar-era [[UsefulNotes/TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Thuringia]], inadvertently injecting the war-stricken Europe with some modern American values? Right.



** Jimmy Anderson of the "Four Musketeers" spends almost twenty years worth of books being just a SatelliteCharacter to Jeff and Gretchen (even Larry, who's killed off in his third appearance, was more developed) and is ultimately [[spoiler: [[MurphysBullet killed by a stray bullet]] without ever getting any DayInTheLimelight in a relatively minor conflict after almost twenty years of being a supporting character.]]

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** Jimmy Anderson of the "Four Musketeers" spends almost twenty years worth of books being just a SatelliteCharacter to Jeff and Gretchen (even Larry, who's killed off in his third appearance, was more developed) and is ultimately [[spoiler: [[MurphysBullet [[spoiler:[[MurphysBullet killed by a stray bullet]] without ever getting any DayInTheLimelight form of ADayInTheLimelight in a relatively minor conflict after almost twenty years of being a supporting character.]]



** While there's a certain logic to Mike's using the murders in ''The Dreeson Incident'' as an excuse to target the anti-semites, the fact that his doing so helps the real killers (who continue to murder people across the books) escape can be frustrating, especially given how it might not have been too implausible for him to do both. His explanation of what he's doing comes uncomfortably close to to "violently suppressing ideas absolutely works."

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** While there's a certain logic to Mike's using the murders in ''The Dreeson Incident'' as an excuse to target the anti-semites, antisemites, the fact that his doing so helps the real killers (who continue to murder people across the books) escape can be frustrating, especially given how it might not have been too implausible for him to do both. His explanation of what he's doing comes uncomfortably close to to "violently suppressing ideas absolutely works."



** People who may be perplexed about Flint's apparent "liberalism" and {{Eagleland}} tendencies should recall two things: first, he's a Trotskyist (as pointed out elsewhere, he worked as a labor activist in West Virginia under the aegis of the Trotskyist Socialist Workers' Party), not really a Leninist and for damn sure ''not'' a Stalinist or Maoist. As such, he rejects the authoritarianism/totalitarianism and dictatorial policies of most communist regimes of the past century, and the series can be seen as his discourse on how to do Marxism right. Second, with regard to the United States, Marx, during his own lifetime, and his followers during the mid-19th century actually viewed the USA as a progressive nation, particularly in comparison to the outright reactionary regimes controlling most of Europe, and the American Revolution as a epochal revolutionary move forward in human history in accordance with Marx's theory of history. Marx himself was a staunch supporter of the Union during the American Civil War, even corresponding with Abraham Lincoln. (Another prominent left-wing figure of the period, August Willich - who emigrated to the USA after the 1848 revolts, and who was so radical that he once challenged Marx himself to a duel for being, in his view, insufficiently revolutionary - became one of the best brigade-level Union commanders in the western theater during the war.)
** Another political position that Flint espouses is that politically-motivated assassinations almost never succeed in their avowed objective. He makes this particularly clear in ''1635: The Dreeson Incident'', where [[spoiler:French Huguenot extremists assassinate Mayor Henry Dreeson and a prominent Grantville clergyman, the Reverend Enoch Wiley, in an attempt to touch off an anti-Semitic pogrom and plunge the USE and France back into war. What ends up happening instead is that the Committees of Correspondence virtually exterminate anti-Semites throughout the country. This has a major follow-on effect in ''1636: The Saxon Uprising'', where the destruction of Germany's anti-Semites significantly handicaps the reactionaries led by Axel Oxenstierna in their attempt to roll back the revolution brought by the uptimers.]] In fact, the murders and attempted murders carried out by the aforementioned Huguenot extremists and their leader Michel Ducos, who tried to assassinate Pope Urban VIII in ''1634: The Galileo Affair'', seem designed to point up Flint's argument, right through the latest such incident in ''1636: The Vatican Sanction''. In that book, [[spoiler:Ducos' terrorists attempt to murder Pope Urban VIII again at an interfaith conference. As it happens, they do end up succeeding - but neither they nor the public at large will ever know it; the public attempt failed, but Urban was killed by a slow-witted member of the team who tried to flee pursuit after the public fiasco by hiding in the Pope's lavatory. The chief result of Urban's death is that he's succeeded by none other than Cardinal Bedmar, Ruy Sanchez's old superior and long-standing friend, who was a long-serving professional soldier - a general, in fact - before transferring to the Catholic clergy, and who is dead-set against the usurper Borja and all his works; indeed, he's likely to fight even harder against Borja than Urban ever did.]]


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** People who may be perplexed about Flint's apparent "liberalism" and {{Eagleland}} tendencies should recall two things: first, he's a Trotskyist (as pointed out elsewhere, he worked as a labor activist in West Virginia under the aegis of the Trotskyist Socialist Workers' Party), not really a Leninist and for damn sure ''not'' a Stalinist or Maoist. As such, he rejects the authoritarianism/totalitarianism and dictatorial policies of most communist regimes of the past century, and the series can be seen as his discourse on how to do Marxism right. Second, with regard to the United States, Marx, during his own lifetime, and his followers during the mid-19th century actually viewed the USA as a progressive nation, particularly in comparison to the outright reactionary regimes controlling most of Europe, and the American Revolution as a epochal revolutionary move forward in human history in accordance with Marx's theory of history. Marx himself was a staunch supporter of the Union during the American Civil War, even corresponding with Abraham Lincoln. (Another prominent left-wing figure of the period, August Willich - -- who emigrated to the USA after the 1848 revolts, and who was so radical that he once challenged Marx himself to a duel for being, in his view, insufficiently revolutionary - -- became one of the best brigade-level Union commanders in the western theater during the war.)
** Another political position that Flint espouses is that politically-motivated assassinations almost never succeed in their avowed objective. He makes this particularly clear in ''1635: The Dreeson Incident'', where [[spoiler:French Huguenot extremists assassinate Mayor Henry Dreeson and a prominent Grantville clergyman, the Reverend Enoch Wiley, in an attempt to touch off an anti-Semitic pogrom and plunge the USE and France back into war. What ends up happening instead is that the Committees of Correspondence virtually exterminate anti-Semites throughout the country. This has a major follow-on effect in ''1636: The Saxon Uprising'', where the destruction of Germany's anti-Semites significantly handicaps the reactionaries led by Axel Oxenstierna in their attempt to roll back the revolution brought by the uptimers.]] In fact, the murders and attempted murders carried out by the aforementioned Huguenot extremists and their leader Michel Ducos, who tried to assassinate Pope Urban VIII in ''1634: The Galileo Affair'', seem designed to point up Flint's argument, right through the latest such incident in ''1636: The Vatican Sanction''. In that book, [[spoiler:Ducos' terrorists attempt to murder Pope Urban VIII again at an interfaith conference. As it happens, they do end up succeeding - -- but neither they nor the public at large will ever know it; the public attempt failed, but Urban was killed by a slow-witted member of the team who tried to flee pursuit after the public fiasco by hiding in the Pope's lavatory. The chief result of Urban's death is that he's succeeded by none other than Cardinal Bedmar, Ruy Sanchez's old superior and long-standing friend, who was a long-serving professional soldier - -- a general, in fact - -- before transferring to the Catholic clergy, and who is dead-set against the usurper Borja and all his works; indeed, he's likely to fight even harder against Borja than Urban ever did.]]

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** Philosopher John Milton, who hans't been heard from in a long time (both InUniverse and in terms of book publication) after refuting his past political theories to survive, but with some reluctance and only with the urging to do something else impactful with his talents.
** "The Legions of Pestilience" seems to do it's best to kill off supporting characters from the previous books by that author in a DroppedABridgeOnHim fashion and while certainly some of them dying to emphasize the bleakness and heartbreak of the plague was necessary, losing [[spoiler:Fred Pence, who'd just lost his mother-in-law to the plague and could have had helping his family through that]] and [[spoiler:ColonelBadass Derek Utt, who also had a good backstory fo his family being left up-time]] can feel frustrating. Especially given the TooDumbToLive nature of those deaths (and a couple of others) in taking care of a cat which belonged to a previous plague victim and that they should have realized was plague carrier itself.

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** Philosopher John Milton, who hans't hasn't been heard from in a long time (both InUniverse and in terms of book publication) after refuting his past political theories to survive, but with some reluctance and only with the urging to do something else impactful with his talents.
** "The Legions of Pestilience" seems to do it's its best to kill off supporting characters from the previous books by that author in a DroppedABridgeOnHim fashion and while certainly some of them dying to emphasize the bleakness and heartbreak of the plague was necessary, losing [[spoiler:Fred Pence, who'd just lost his mother-in-law to the plague and could have had helping his family through that]] and [[spoiler:ColonelBadass Derek Utt, who also had a good backstory fo his family being left up-time]] can feel frustrating. Especially given the TooDumbToLive nature of those deaths (and a couple of others) in taking care of a cat which belonged to a previous plague victim and that they should have realized was plague carrier itself.
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** Jimmy Anderson of the "Four Musketeers" spends almost twenty years worth of books being just a SatelliteCharacter to Jeff and Gretchen (even Larry, whose killed off in his third appearance, was more developed) and ultimately [[spoiler:Is killed by a stray bullet without ever getting any DayInTheLimelight in a relatively minor conflict after almost twenty years of being a supporting character.]]

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** Jimmy Anderson of the "Four Musketeers" spends almost twenty years worth of books being just a SatelliteCharacter to Jeff and Gretchen (even Larry, whose who's killed off in his third appearance, was more developed) and is ultimately [[spoiler:Is [[spoiler: [[MurphysBullet killed by a stray bullet bullet]] without ever getting any DayInTheLimelight in a relatively minor conflict after almost twenty years of being a supporting character.]]
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** In the first book, Wallenstein orders the attack on Grantville and says to kill even the dogs because [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain they "might be a Jew in disguise."]] One HazyFeelTurn later, and most of the stories centered around Jews are taking place in Wallenstein's own backyard.

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** In a PoliticallyIncorrectVillain moment in the first book, Wallenstein orders the attack on Grantville and says to kill even the dogs because [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain they "might be a Jew in disguise."]] One HazyFeelTurn later, and most of the stories centered around Jews are taking place in Wallenstein's own backyard.
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** In the first book, Wallenstein orders the attack on Grantville and says to kill even the dogs because [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain they "might be a jew in disguise."]] One HazyFeelTurn later, and most of the stories centered around Jews are taking place in Wallenstein's own backyard.

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** In the first book, Wallenstein orders the attack on Grantville and says to kill even the dogs because [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain they "might be a jew Jew in disguise."]] One HazyFeelTurn later, and most of the stories centered around Jews are taking place in Wallenstein's own backyard.
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** People who may be perplexed about Flint's apparent "liberalism" and {{Eagleland}} tendencies should recall two things: first, he's a Trotskyist (as pointed out elsewhere, he worked as a labor activist in West Virginia under the aegis of the Trotskyist Socialist Workers' Party), not really a Leninist and for damn sure ''not'' a Stalinist or Maoist. As such, he rejects the authoritarianism/totalitarianism and dictatorial policies of most Communist regimes of the past century, and the series can be seen as his discourse on how to do Marxism right. Second, with regard to the United States, Marx, during his own lifetime, and his followers during the mid-19th century actually viewed the USA as a progressive nation, particularly in comparison to the outright reactionary regimes controlling most of Europe, and the American Revolution as a epochal revolutionary move forward in human history in accordance with Marx's theory of history. Marx himself was a staunch supporter of the Union during the American Civil War, even corresponding with Abraham Lincoln. (Another prominent left-wing figure of the period, August Willich - who emigrated to the USA after the 1848 revolts, and who was so radical that he once challenged Marx himself to a duel for being, in his view, insufficiently revolutionary - became one of the best brigade-level Union commanders in the western theater during the war.)

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** People who may be perplexed about Flint's apparent "liberalism" and {{Eagleland}} tendencies should recall two things: first, he's a Trotskyist (as pointed out elsewhere, he worked as a labor activist in West Virginia under the aegis of the Trotskyist Socialist Workers' Party), not really a Leninist and for damn sure ''not'' a Stalinist or Maoist. As such, he rejects the authoritarianism/totalitarianism and dictatorial policies of most Communist communist regimes of the past century, and the series can be seen as his discourse on how to do Marxism right. Second, with regard to the United States, Marx, during his own lifetime, and his followers during the mid-19th century actually viewed the USA as a progressive nation, particularly in comparison to the outright reactionary regimes controlling most of Europe, and the American Revolution as a epochal revolutionary move forward in human history in accordance with Marx's theory of history. Marx himself was a staunch supporter of the Union during the American Civil War, even corresponding with Abraham Lincoln. (Another prominent left-wing figure of the period, August Willich - who emigrated to the USA after the 1848 revolts, and who was so radical that he once challenged Marx himself to a duel for being, in his view, insufficiently revolutionary - became one of the best brigade-level Union commanders in the western theater during the war.)
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Cleaning wicks. Author Existence Failure was renamed to Died During Production, and is Trivia, not YMMV. Moving to Trivia.


* AuthorExistenceFailure: Following Flint's death in 2022, the ''Grantville Gazette'' e-zine series, which had collected a huge number of short stories and novellas set in the 1632verse, and the Ring of Fire Press, which also published 1632verse (and other) novels by other authors, were shut down, and it's very possible the series will be concluded by Baen once various manuscripts submitted by Flint himself and co-authors before his passing are polished and published. In the event that the series does continue, any new project proposals will need to be approved by Flint's widow Lucille Robbins.
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** People who may be perplexed about Flint's apparent "liberalism" and {{Eagleland}} tendencies should recall two things: first, he's a Trotskyist (as pointed out elsewhere, he worked as a labor activist in West Virginia under the aegis of the Trotskyist Socialist Workers' Party), not really a Leninist and for damn sure ''not'' a Stalinist or Maoist. As such, he rejects the authoritarianism/totalitarianism and dictatorial policies of most Communist regimes of the past century, and the series can be seen as his discourse on how to do Marxism right. Second, with regard to the United States, Marx, during his own lifetime, and his followers during the mid-19th century actually viewed the USA as a progressive nation, particularly in comparison to the outright reactionary regimes controlling most of Europe, and the American Revolution as a epochal revolutionary move forward in human history in accordance with Marx's theory of history. Marx himself was a staunch supporter of the Union during the American Civil War, even corresponding with Abraham Lincoln.

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** People who may be perplexed about Flint's apparent "liberalism" and {{Eagleland}} tendencies should recall two things: first, he's a Trotskyist (as pointed out elsewhere, he worked as a labor activist in West Virginia under the aegis of the Trotskyist Socialist Workers' Party), not really a Leninist and for damn sure ''not'' a Stalinist or Maoist. As such, he rejects the authoritarianism/totalitarianism and dictatorial policies of most Communist regimes of the past century, and the series can be seen as his discourse on how to do Marxism right. Second, with regard to the United States, Marx, during his own lifetime, and his followers during the mid-19th century actually viewed the USA as a progressive nation, particularly in comparison to the outright reactionary regimes controlling most of Europe, and the American Revolution as a epochal revolutionary move forward in human history in accordance with Marx's theory of history. Marx himself was a staunch supporter of the Union during the American Civil War, even corresponding with Abraham Lincoln. (Another prominent left-wing figure of the period, August Willich - who emigrated to the USA after the 1848 revolts, and who was so radical that he once challenged Marx himself to a duel for being, in his view, insufficiently revolutionary - became one of the best brigade-level Union commanders in the western theater during the war.)
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Following Flint's death in 2022, the ''Grantville Gazette'' e-zine series, which had collected a huge number of short stories and novellas set in the 1632verse, was shut down, and it's quite possible ''The Transylvanian Decision'', the last completed novel published, will be the last book in the series, which, needless to say, will unfortunately leave a lot of plot threads unresolved.

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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Following Flint's death in 2022, the ''Grantville Gazette'' e-zine series, which had collected a huge number of short stories and novellas set in the 1632verse, was and the Ring of Fire Press, which also published 1632verse (and other) novels by other authors, were shut down, and it's quite very possible ''The Transylvanian Decision'', the last completed novel published, series will be concluded by Baen once various manuscripts submitted by Flint himself and co-authors before his passing are polished and published. In the last book in event that the series, which, needless to say, series does continue, any new project proposals will unfortunately leave a lot of plot threads unresolved.need to be approved by Flint's widow Lucille Robbins.
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Following Flint's death in 2022, the ''Grantville Gazette'' e-zine series, which had collected a huge number of short stories and novellas set in the 1632verse, was shut down, and it's quite possible ''The Transylvanian Decision'', the last completed novel published, will be the last book in the series, which, needless to say, will unfortunately leave a lot of plot threads unresolved.
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** Harry's crew member George Sutherland, a OneManArmy who could have been kept around as a [[spoiler:CrusadingWidower rather than getting a HeroicSacrifice soon after the death of his wife.]]

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** Harry's crew member George Sutherland, a OneManArmy who could have been kept around as a [[spoiler:CrusadingWidower [[spoiler:CrusadingWidow rather than getting a HeroicSacrifice soon after the death of his wife.]]

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