History YMMV / SilentHill

12th Sep '16 12:05:02 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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The Hulett-bashing has, however, mostly gone dormant and shifted to a focus on Konami ever since the ''VideoGame/SilentHills'' debacle. Pretty much ''everybody'' agrees that that mess was Konami's fault, especially in the wake of their abandonment of most AAA game development in 2015-16 to focus on mobile gaming and pachinko machines. While Konami's fraught relationship with Creator/HideoKojima, the director of ''Silent Hills'', tends to be portrayed as a one-way street a bit too often (Kojima had gone seriously overbudget on ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid5ThePhantomPain''[='=]s TroubledProduction, putting him very much in Konami's bad graces), Konami's announcement of a ''Silent Hill'' pachinko machine just months after they canceled ''Silent Hills'' read like a deliberate insult towards the franchise and its fans.

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The Hulett-bashing has, however, mostly gone dormant and shifted to a focus on Konami ever since the ''VideoGame/SilentHills'' debacle. Pretty much ''everybody'' agrees that that mess was Konami's fault, especially in the wake of their abandonment of most AAA game development in 2015-16 to focus on mobile gaming and pachinko machines. While Konami's fraught relationship with Creator/HideoKojima, the director of ''Silent Hills'', tends to be portrayed as a one-way street a bit too often (Kojima had gone seriously overbudget on ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid5ThePhantomPain''[='=]s ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain''[='=]s TroubledProduction, putting him very much in Konami's bad graces), Konami's announcement of a ''Silent Hill'' pachinko machine just months after they canceled ''Silent Hills'' read like a deliberate insult towards the franchise and its fans.
12th Sep '16 12:02:50 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* ScapegoatCreator: Want to generate a FlameWar among ''Silent Hill'' [[BrokenBase fans]]? Ask who caused the series' DorkAge: Tom Hulett, or Creator/{{Konami}}. To one half of the fanbase, Hulett, the man who took over as the director of the series after Team Silent[[note]]The original development team, who made [[VideoGame/SilentHill1 the]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 first]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill3 four]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill4TheRoom games]] in the series[[/note]] disbanded, was responsible for everything that went wrong with the series from ''VideoGame/SilentHillOrigins'' onward, from questionable creative decisions to changes in gameplay mechanics to the PortingDisaster that was the ''Silent Hill HD Collection''. To the other, Hulett has been the only person keeping the series alive, and it was Konami that broke up Team Silent and passed the franchise off from studio to studio while destroying everything that made the original games great. The only thing they can agree upon is that the series went downhill after Team Silent broke up, and that ''someone'' is to blame.

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* ScapegoatCreator: Want Quick: want to generate a FlameWar among ''Silent Hill'' [[BrokenBase fans]]? Ask who caused the series' DorkAge: Tom Tomm Hulett, or Creator/{{Konami}}. To one half of the fanbase, Hulett, the man who took over as the director of the series after Team Silent[[note]]The the original development team, who made [[VideoGame/SilentHill1 the]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 first]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill3 four]] Team Silent, disbanded following [[VideoGame/SilentHill4TheRoom games]] in the series[[/note]] disbanded, fourth game]], was responsible for everything that went wrong with the series from ''VideoGame/SilentHillOrigins'' onward, from questionable creative decisions to changes in gameplay mechanics to the PortingDisaster that was the ''Silent Hill HD Collection''. To the other, Hulett has been the only person keeping the series alive, and it was Konami that broke up Team Silent and passed the franchise off from studio to studio while destroying everything that made the original games great. The only thing they can agree upon is that the series went downhill after Team Silent broke up, and that ''someone'' is to blame.\\\
The Hulett-bashing has, however, mostly gone dormant and shifted to a focus on Konami ever since the ''VideoGame/SilentHills'' debacle. Pretty much ''everybody'' agrees that that mess was Konami's fault, especially in the wake of their abandonment of most AAA game development in 2015-16 to focus on mobile gaming and pachinko machines. While Konami's fraught relationship with Creator/HideoKojima, the director of ''Silent Hills'', tends to be portrayed as a one-way street a bit too often (Kojima had gone seriously overbudget on ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid5ThePhantomPain''[='=]s TroubledProduction, putting him very much in Konami's bad graces), Konami's announcement of a ''Silent Hill'' pachinko machine just months after they canceled ''Silent Hills'' read like a deliberate insult towards the franchise and its fans.
2nd Aug '16 9:52:02 PM Eagal
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* TheyJustDidntCare: The HD Collection. [[PortingDisaster Holy]] [[ObviousBeta shit.]]
2nd Aug '16 9:51:02 PM Eagal
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* HellIsThatNoise: The radio especially, but every noise in that game had the potential to be NightmareFuel or ParanoiaFuel. The darker ambient soundtracks add to the disjointed atmosphere as well. In fact, the franchise even has [[HellIsThatNoise/SilentHill its own page]] for instances of this trope.
** Everytime I hear those...sounds in the courtyard of the school in the first game my heart starts pounding.
** The movie has this in spades: The banshee-shrieking of the burned children; the gurgling, labored breathing of the armless man; the tormented yells of Colin the janitor; the quiet pained whimpers and gasps that the bubble head nurses make, coupled with the wet popping and tearing of their joints whenever they move; and the infamous scraping sound of the Great Knife... watch the movie on your computer with your headphones in and see if the sound effects don't put up the hairs on the back of your neck.



* InNameOnly: Besides the setting and some rather ham-handed references, all the comics written by Scott Ciencin have very little in common with the games.
2nd Aug '16 9:49:09 PM Eagal
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* FanNickname:
** Abstract Daddy/The Doorman
** Lying Figure/Patient Demon
** Mannequins/Pelvis Monsters
** Red Pyramid/Pyramid Head/[[TheyMightBeGiants Triangle Man]]
25th Jul '16 5:41:53 AM bt8257
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** Is [[SilentHill2 James]] a monster who [[spoiler:killed his wife]] because he didn't feel like taking care of her any more, an innocent man tortured by guilt, or a complex tragic character who was the instrument of Mary's [[spoiler:assisted suicide]]? [[OccamsRazor Or, perhaps,]] James is just a normal man [[spoiler:who did a horrible thing.]]

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** Is [[SilentHill2 [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 James]] a monster who [[spoiler:killed his wife]] because he didn't feel like taking care of her any more, an innocent man tortured by guilt, or a complex tragic character who was the instrument of Mary's [[spoiler:assisted suicide]]? [[OccamsRazor Or, perhaps,]] James is just a normal man [[spoiler:who did a horrible thing.]]



** In SilentHill3, Vincent offers one in game when he reacts with mock terror upon being asked about monsters in Silent Hill: "They look like ''monsters'' to you?"
** There's a fan theory that runs that [[SilentHill4 Henry]] is in fact responsible for the murders throughout the fourth game. See the WildMassGuessing page for details.

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** In SilentHill3, VideoGame/SilentHill3, Vincent offers one in game when he reacts with mock terror upon being asked about monsters in Silent Hill: "They look like ''monsters'' to you?"
** There's a fan theory that runs that [[SilentHill4 [[VideoGame/SilentHill4 Henry]] is in fact responsible for the murders throughout the fourth game. See the WildMassGuessing page for details.



** Did [[SilentHillHomecoming Alex]] come back from [[spoiler:the Army or the nuthouse]]?

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** Did [[SilentHillHomecoming [[VideoGame/SilentHillHomecoming Alex]] come back from [[spoiler:the Army or the nuthouse]]?
4th Jun '16 9:48:43 PM nombretomado
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** It should be noted, however, that source code is not required to produce an HD version of a game; all you need is a retail copy, and a team of programmers savvy in the PS2 language. This is how ''VideoGame/{{Ico}}''[=/=]''VideoGame/ShadowOfTheColossus'' HD collection was created.

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** It should be noted, however, that source code is not required to produce an HD version of a game; all you need is a retail copy, and a team of programmers savvy in the PS2 [=PS2=] language. This is how ''VideoGame/{{Ico}}''[=/=]''VideoGame/ShadowOfTheColossus'' HD collection was created.
7th Feb '16 6:15:16 AM Freshmeat
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* MagnumOpus: ''Silent Hill 2'', forever the magnum opus of Team Silent in the eyes of many fans.
14th Jan '16 8:36:33 PM karategal
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Pyramid Head went from SilentHill2's iconic ImplacableMan to the series mascot.
** In terms of protagonists Heather Mason seems to be the most popular.Due to pretty being the most bravest protagonist and being Alessa reincarnation.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Pyramid Head went from SilentHill2's ''SilentHill2's'' iconic ImplacableMan to the series mascot.
** In terms of protagonists protagonists, Heather Mason seems to be the most popular.Due popular, due to pretty her being the most bravest protagonist and being Alessa Alessa's reincarnation.



** ''VideoGame/SilentHill1'' - {{Fanon}} says that Kaufmann did unspeakable things to Harry on that pool table after Harry rescued him from the monster.
** ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'' - Pyramid Head, Pyramid Head, Pyramid Head. [[MemeticMolester Good heavens, just look at the time!]] When James firsts meets him, he hides in a '''closet.'''
** ''VideoGame/SilentHill3'' - All of the characters pursuing Heather come off as a StalkerWithACrush, including Douglas.
** ''VideoGame/SilentHill4'' - Walter persistently stalks Henry, kills everyone around him, and addresses Henry as his "Receiver of Wisdom".
** ''VideoGame/SilentHillHomecoming'' - Bogeyman (aka Pyramid Head), even though the "foe" part is debatable (seeing as [[spoiler:he only appears to be coming after Adam]]).

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** ''VideoGame/SilentHill1'' - -- {{Fanon}} says that Kaufmann did unspeakable things to Harry on that pool table after Harry rescued him from the monster.
** ''VideoGame/SilentHill2'' - -- Pyramid Head, Pyramid Head, Pyramid Head. [[MemeticMolester Good heavens, just look at the time!]] When James firsts meets him, he hides in a '''closet.'''
** ''VideoGame/SilentHill3'' - -- All of the characters pursuing Heather come off as a StalkerWithACrush, including Douglas.
** ''VideoGame/SilentHill4'' - -- Walter persistently stalks Henry, kills everyone around him, and addresses Henry as his "Receiver of Wisdom".
** ''VideoGame/SilentHillHomecoming'' - -- Bogeyman (aka Pyramid Head), even though the "foe" part is debatable (seeing as [[spoiler:he only appears to be coming after Adam]]).



* HilariousInHindsight: Alice Krige portrayes the [[BurnTheWitch fanatical]] Christabella in the first movie. Few years later she would play a witch in ''Film/TheSorcerersApprentice''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Alice Krige portrayes portrays the [[BurnTheWitch fanatical]] Christabella in the first movie. Few A few years later later, she would play a witch in ''Film/TheSorcerersApprentice''.



** There's a room in the mall in 3, where there's a sign that says you need to turn off the lights because the room becomes very noticeable if you don't. Even while watching a friend play the game, when they go to turn off the lights, it's terrifying because of previous knowledge of SilentHill games. [[spoiler:Nothing actually happens either way,]] which really makes it ParanoiaFuel.
** In Silent Hill 2, while wandering around in the abandoned apartments, you hear a noise coming from the north in a room you visited a few minutes before. When you go back into the previously empty room, [[spoiler:a man you haven't seen before is sitting dead in the chair in front of the TV, which has been turned on to static and has blood all over it.]] And all the corpses that James runs into [[strike:use the same character model]] look like him, except for one that looks like Harry Mason.
** In Silent Hill 4, you wander through Otherworlds [[spoiler:which are created from Walter's memories.]] Every person you meet in these Otherworlds dies gruesomely, and it isn't until later that you realize [[spoiler:it's Walter completing his ritualistic murders.]] That's right, the BigBad has been seeking out each victim like a predator does its prey, meaning he's also been stalking YOU through each Otherworld the whole time. [[spoiler:It's even worse when he comes out of hiding when you revisit these areas.]]

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** There's a room in the mall in 3, ''3'', where there's a sign that says you need to turn off the lights because the room becomes very noticeable if you don't. Even while watching a friend play the game, when they go to turn off the lights, it's terrifying because of previous knowledge of SilentHill ''SilentHill'' games. [[spoiler:Nothing actually happens either way,]] which really makes it ParanoiaFuel.
** In Silent ''Silent Hill 2, 2'', while wandering around in the abandoned apartments, you hear a noise coming from the north in a room you visited a few minutes before. When you go back into the previously empty room, [[spoiler:a man you haven't seen before is sitting dead in the chair in front of the TV, which has been turned on to static and has blood all over it.]] And all the corpses that James runs into [[strike:use the same character model]] look like him, except for one that looks like Harry Mason.
** In Silent ''Silent Hill 4, 4'', you wander through Otherworlds Otherworlds, [[spoiler:which are created from Walter's memories.]] Every person you meet in these Otherworlds dies gruesomely, and it isn't until later that you realize [[spoiler:it's Walter completing his ritualistic murders.]] That's right, the BigBad has been seeking out each victim like a predator does its prey, meaning he's also been stalking YOU through each Otherworld the whole time. [[spoiler:It's even worse when he comes out of hiding when you revisit these areas.]]



* TheScrappy: Christabella from the comics, who is utterly loathed by everyone both in and out of universe. Dosen't help that she's a complete CreatorsPet. She was so hated that the character was [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome completely erased]] when a new writer took over.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: In the movie, Rose's husband Christopher is supposed to be a jerk for being against going to Silent Hill and putting a hold on their credit cards. The thing is, he's absolutely right about how crazy this is. In the movie, it's publicly available knowledge that the town has massive coal fires that make it too dangerous to go to, plus the additional danger made by taking a mentally troubled child along.

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* TheScrappy: Christabella from the comics, who is utterly loathed by everyone both in and out of universe. Dosen't Doesn't help that she's a complete CreatorsPet. She was so hated that the character was [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome completely erased]] when a new writer took over.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: In the movie, Rose's husband Christopher is supposed to be a jerk for being against going to Silent Hill and putting a hold on their credit cards. The thing is, he's absolutely right about how crazy this is. In the movie, it's publicly available knowledge that the town has massive coal fires that make it too dangerous to go to, plus the additional danger made by taking a mentally troubled mentally-troubled child along.



**** Since the release of the PT for ''VideoGame/SilentHills'', fans are '''still complaining''', stating that HideoKojima wouldn't be able to pull off the new game, {{Creator/Guillermo del Toro}} wouldn't be able to execute the atmosphere properly (since you know, the creator of PansLabyrinth [[SarcasmMode doesn't know anything about horror]]), and even more over the fact that the teaser was shot from first person view.

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**** Since the release of the PT for ''VideoGame/SilentHills'', fans are '''still complaining''', stating that HideoKojima wouldn't be able to pull off the new game, {{Creator/Guillermo del Toro}} wouldn't be able to execute the atmosphere properly (since you know, the creator of PansLabyrinth ''PansLabyrinth'' [[SarcasmMode doesn't know anything about horror]]), and even more over the fact that the teaser was shot from first person view.
19th Dec '15 2:17:54 PM nombretomado
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** It should be noted, however, that source code is not required to produce an HD version of a game; all you need is a retail copy, and a team of programmers savvy in the PS2 language. This is how {{Ico}}/ShadowOfTheColossus HD collection was created.

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** It should be noted, however, that source code is not required to produce an HD version of a game; all you need is a retail copy, and a team of programmers savvy in the PS2 language. This is how {{Ico}}/ShadowOfTheColossus ''VideoGame/{{Ico}}''[=/=]''VideoGame/ShadowOfTheColossus'' HD collection was created.
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