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**Marj and Laurie became much more iconic and much more popular than Marj's first marriage to Tom Neilson. It helped that Marj had softened from a judgmental gossip to everyone's favourite receptionist by the time she met Laurie in addition to Laurie and Marj being less of a stereotypical "stodgy, boring old married couple who'd been married for years" like her and Tom had been. When most people think of Marj, they think of Laurie rather than Tom.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Any scene with Rene Naufahu playing a nice friendly guy when it comes to women is incredibly awkward given his sexual assault conviction.

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**Nick made a snarky remark about how if the party he was throwing for Kirsty didn't go well he could "always kill himself." Come 70 episodes later, a friend of he and Stuart's would over a party gone wrong.
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** On ''Shortland Street'', Olivia Tennet played the daughter of drug addict Guy Warner (played by Craig Parker). In ''Series/UnderbellyNZLandOfTheLongGreenCloud'', she plays Julie Theilman, a real-life drug runner and heroin addict.

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** On ''Shortland Street'', Olivia Tennet played Chris and Dr Mckenna had a conversation in the daughter second week of drug addict Guy Warner (played by Craig Parker). In ''Series/UnderbellyNZLandOfTheLongGreenCloud'', she plays Julie Theilman, a real-life drug runner the show bringing up at the time beloved Kiwi yachter Russell Coutts and heroin addict.Chris stating Russell was an acquaintance of his father, the HateSink Sir Bruce Warner. Years later, Russell would be public enemy number one by jumping ship (figuratively, not literally) along with another member of Team New Zealand to join a Swiss yachting outfit for money. Nowadays, Russell Coutts is loathed across the nation for not only this, but being on board with the Freedom Convoy anti-Covid protests in 2022.

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* MandelaEffect: Due to only a limited run of reruns originally, several things from the show's early years were forgotten about or incorrectly remembered by fans and so were accepted as the truth until the show reran again in 2009. One example was one of Carrie Burton's triplets being referred to as "Flynn" in articles and write-ups prior to 2010, when upon rewatch his name is in fact Finbar, not Flynn. Thankfully, this led to him having his correct name when the character reappeared in 2017. Damien Neilson was also referred to as Darryl Neilson's twin brother due to being played by the same actor, but Damien was actually Darryl's younger brother.

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* MandelaEffect: Due to only a limited run of reruns originally, several things from the show's early years were forgotten about or incorrectly remembered by fans and so were accepted as the truth until the show reran again in 2009.
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One example was one of Carrie Burton's triplets being referred to as "Flynn" in articles and write-ups prior to 2010, when upon rewatch his name is in fact Finbar, not Flynn. Thankfully, this led to him having his correct name when the character reappeared in 2017.
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Damien Neilson was also referred to as Darryl Neilson's twin brother due to being played by the same actor, but Damien was actually Darryl's younger brother.brother.
** Michael Galvin himself was hit with this when he sat down with Ngahuia Piripi to watch the show's first episode. Michael misremembered Marj's first line on reception as "Kia Ora, welcome to Shortland Street," which would become the standard for the clinic/hospital over the years. In reality, the phrase wasn't used until 1993. What Marj said was "Shortland Street Accident and Emergency Centre."


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** Likewise, Stuart wanting to drop out of school and marry the woman his brother impregnated was treated like something which could wreck his life. Potentially true given the limited options for study past a certain age back in 1992, a ridiculous assertion to make as educational options became available for adult students and on-the-job training became more common in the workforce as time has moved on.

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** A lot of Nick's "trendy" 90's slang was clearly written by someone who had no idea of how teenagers in 1992 spoke.



** There is not a snowball's chance in hell we will ever see another storyline like the one Harry Martin and Minnie Crozier had in 1996 which presented Harry as a sympathetic figure grappling with his conscience as to whether he would bed the 15 year old Minnie or not.

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** There is not a snowball's chance in hell we will ever see another storyline like the one Harry Martin and Minnie Crozier had in 1996 which presented presented the 20 year old Harry as a sympathetic figure grappling with his conscience as to whether he would bed the 15 year old Minnie or not.

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Stella has lost her popularity because the writers derailed her, meanwhile Greg Feeney is a prime example.


** Stella Reihana is the most well-received of the registrar team in 2023. Stella is well-liked for not only being TheWoobie because of her storyline with a patient who sexually assaulted her, but for being the most well-rounded one of the new cast, having excellent chemistry with the new version of Harry Warner, for being a genuinely likeable protagonist and for having none of the glaring shortcomings of fellow newcomers Quinn and Parker.


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** Greg Feeney was the most popular recurring character of the 90s. Helped by Tim Balme's natural charisma playing the character, even though Greg was a womanising drug dealer and petty crim with a violent streak, fans loved Greg because he had a hidden heart of gold deep, deep down. It helped he often had conflict with worse villains and was a good looking guy on top of it all.
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I have no idea what point that paragraph was supposed to be making. There's no "This character is a douche, but they're worse than these villains." It just mentioned Madonna, then Brightshine, then brought up Leanne for some reason.


** Madonna was incredibly unsympathetic in her early days due to her habit of being generally sanctimonious and obnoxious about her Catholic faith, even telling a coworker and her superior that she doesn't "hate lesbians... just what you do in the bedroom" on *her first day of work.* Brightshine, meanwhile, went from a weird phenomenon to an ObviouslyEvil CorruptChurch that murdered a main character's teen son, making them more of a plot arc than a source of irritation about the way they practiced their religion. It was more Leanne's sanctimonious behavior as a believer that angered viewers than any of Brightshine's more ambiguous beliefs and moves as an institution.
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** There is not a snowball's chance in hell we will ever see another storyline like the one Harry Martin and Minnie Crozier had in 1996 which presented Harry as a sympathetic figure grappling with his conscience as to whether he would bed the 15 year old Minnie or not.
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** Transgender nurse Samantha Thomas was played by a gay male in 2006 rather than a transgendered actress as would be traditional nowadays. But to have a transgender character at all, let alone one who happened to be treated as a normal person rather than someone strange or an Aesop for a storyline in 2006 was huge for New Zealand TV in 2006.

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** Transgender nurse Samantha Thomas was played by a gay male in 2006 rather than a transgendered actress as would be traditional nowadays. But to have a transgender character at all, let alone one who happened to be treated as a normal person rather than someone strange or an Aesop for a storyline in 2006 was huge for New Zealand TV in 2006.at the time.
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** Transgender nurse Samantha Thomas was played by a gay male in 2006 rather than a transgendered actress as would be traditional nowadays. But to have a transgender character at all, let alone one who happened to be treated as a normal person rather than someone strange or an Aesop for a storyline in 2006 was huge for New Zealand TV in 2006.
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** In 1994, Chris had a storyline where he and Rebecca Frost got into a relationship while she was helping him get clean from his painkiller addiction. The big hitch was that Chris's parents wouldn't approve of an interracial relationship. This certainly wouldn't be treated as a "normal rich white family" thing nowadays.
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** A big part of Jamie and Jonathon's early story in 1993 is Jamie trying to get permission to talk about safe sex at Ferndale High and Jonathon potentially jeopardising that due to pissing off the principal of Ferndale High while protesting with Nick. Nowadays, it's unheard of for schools not to teach about safe sex.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: What was hyped as a Ferndale's Next Top Surgeon-type competition in 2023 didn't play out as such. After Britt quit, it wasn't until Milo Cross's rampage more registrars would leave the programme, and by his hand rather than by surgical performance.

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** At the end of 2022, Nicole finally had enough of Maeve's caustic personality and outbursts aimed at everybody. Nicole told Maeve it was over and she wanted a divorce. After kicking Maeve out, Maeve began to act in an unbalanced and possessive manner, even making a drunken fool of herself and making everybody uncomfortable at the IV by going full meltdown at Nicole. What looked like a potentially interesting storyline where the show had potential to show that even supposedly perfect spouses can become disturbingly possessive and unhinged after being dumped, the show pivoted to Maeve vs Brightshine beginning with Brightshine killing Wilder and by mid-January 2023, the wheels were in motion for Nicole and Maeve getting back together with Nicole suddenly missing her wife and regretting dumping Maeve with no mention of why.
** In mid-2023, 5 new characters and a recast Harry Warner were brought in as registars vying for one position at the hospital. (Eventually that became two, with Noah being written out to deal with his PTSD, meaning all of the final 3 made it in.)
What was hyped as a Ferndale's Next Top Surgeon-type competition in 2023 didn't play out as such. After Britt quit, it wasn't until Milo Cross's rampage more registrars would leave the programme, and by his hand rather than by surgical performance.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Happens from time to time. The series has touched on various political and social issues in New Zealand from drug use to teenage driving.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Happens from time The show never used to time. be shy about topical subjects on occasion. The series has touched on various political and social issues in New Zealand from drug use to teenage driving.driving, race relations, gender politics and so on. Some would argue that over the years it's gotten worse about hitting people over the head with what the writers want the audience to think.

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** Upon becoming CEO in mid-2023 Esther had to deal with staff shenanigans like workplace pranks gone wrong (Harper tricking Drew into losing his clothes) and Nicole and Maeve using the new tele-health initiative to get physically intimate not realising the video call to a patient wasn't closed off. Esther is portrayed as a stick in the mud over quite reasonably concerns.

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** Upon becoming CEO in mid-2023 Esther had to deal with staff shenanigans like workplace pranks gone wrong (Harper tricking Drew into losing his clothes) and Nicole and Maeve using the new tele-health initiative to get physically intimate not realising the video call to a patient wasn't closed off. This, combined with a nurse's strike along with her husband Marty becoming heavily addicted to drugs made Esther is portrayed as a stick in seem like someone being attacked on all sides simply for being the mud over quite reasonably concerns.boss rather than anything she'd actually done.



** Desi was a terrible partner to Damo on many occasions. However, she was made more sympathetic than her actions probably warranted by the fact that she clearly loved Damo while Leanne still acted as though she had a claim on Damo, often putting Desi in a victim role as a result. Leanne was constantly referring to Desi derisively–including her insistence on calling Desi "Desdemona"–and belittling Desi for various things, including the fact that she dealt with alcoholism. The cherry on top was when Leanne eventually slept with Damo during his marriage to Desi. Though of course that takes two, and Damo was the married one, it seemed especially malicious on Leanne's part due to the way she'd been treating Desi and the fact that Leanne was more concerned about her reputation than actually remorseful for her actions. It was also especially awful since Leanne herself had just had her heart broken by her ex-fiancée, Rosalyn, who cheated on her.
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** Unless Gia returns, her two month run, followed by being an off-camera love interest Rahu can't get over is a massive waste of a transgender character who was more than an aesop who was universally well-received. While Gia's inconsistent personality of being either OK with TK or wanting to keep him at arm's length and not wanting him to be all-in being her dad was a bit confusing, fans liked her because she was a well-rounded character played by a good actress. Then after two months she leaves with no warning.

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Chris and Samoan Ursula the Sea Witch isn't narm so much as it is a really bizarre couple/escapist fantasy, and the thing with the newbies is a plot issue, not a character issue.


** Arguably Chris and Selina as of 2023. Chris pursuing Selina essentially the same way he did Viv (begging her not to leave and then kissing her) was rendered entirely unrealistic by the fact that–while Viv had her flaws as well–Selina has been nothing but incredibly obnoxious and even malicious since arriving on the show. It very much feels like a PairTheSpares scenario.



*** What was hyped as a Ferndale's Next Top Surgeon-type competition didn't play out as such either. After Britt, it wasn't until Milo Cross's rampage more registrars would leave the programme, and by his hand rather than by surgical performance.

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*** * TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: What was hyped as a Ferndale's Next Top Surgeon-type competition in 2023 didn't play out as such either. such. After Britt, Britt quit, it wasn't until Milo Cross's rampage more registrars would leave the programme, and by his hand rather than by surgical performance.
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Apparently doesn't exist as a trope anymore for some reason.


* EvilIsSexy:
** Shane Cortese earned a lot of female attention playing the psychotic Dominic Thompson.
** More than one person out there must have fully been on-board with Ethan Pierce's fetish for sexual domination and humiliation.
* Ian Seymour was a well-dressed man with a stylish goatee, was well-spoken and intelligent. If it weren't for the whole "homicidal maniac who watched his mother die of a heart attack" deal, he'd have been a catch.

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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is this for some people where Maeve is concerned. In just three years of being married to Maeve, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; and kissed another woman twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of Rebekah, who manipulated Maeve's emotions and was retconned to have murdered Maeve's son. There's also the hypocrisy with Harper and Quinn: in 2022, Nicole freaked out over Maeve kissing Harper once when both were drunk and Nicole had all but ended her marriage to Maeve. Nicole and Maeve were this close to reconciling and Maeve admitting to the drunken kiss with Harper completely changed Nicole's mind back in favor of divorce. Six months later, though, Nicole kissed Quinn on two separate occasions when both were sober and Nicole and Maeve were very much back on as a couple. Nicole never apologized to Maeve for kissing Quinn (at least not on screen), and it was Quinn–not Nicole–who told Maeve about the cheating in the first place.
** ...But people make the same argument about Maeve. She's had three cases (Millie, Alexis, and the kid with the tetanus shot) where she clearly crossed the line ethically speaking as a nurse, which put Nicole in a difficult position as DON. She doesn't express remorse for either one, framing the situation as though she was helpless and had no other option than to cross ethical lines even though she did it very deliberately in every case. She arguably didn't do enough to shut down Theo's attention: she kept the pounamu Theo gave her for Christmas and didn't tell Nicole about it, and she even admitted to being attracted to Theo. Maeve also secretly accepted Leanne's money for a vacation for her and Nicole when Nicole wouldn't have wanted to do so, lying about where she'd gotten the money until Nicole caught her, with nothing to suggest that she'd ever intended to tell Nicole the truth. There was also a period when Tom lived in Ferndale where Nicole felt as though Maeve would talk to anyone else but her, specifically Tom. Finally, there's Maeve kissing Harper. It was clearly unethical of her to kiss Harper specifically, since Harper was happily married to Drew, but it's not as clear-cut of an ethical issue when it comes to Maeve and Nicole's marriage, as Nicole had distanced herself heavily from Maeve at that point and their marriage was implied to be all but over.

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** Viewers in the 90s wondered what Alison Raynor was thinking taking Chris back not once but twice. The first time they split was when Chris cheated on her with his ex wife Melanie before Chris decided to end things with Melanie again. Chris would then get back together with Alison much to the chagrin of her best friends Sam and Steve but would dump Chris after Chris no-showed their wedding due to being drugged by a jealous Darryl Neilson. After Chris and Alison left the show, the two would get back together off-camera when Chris's then wife Tiffany caught the two in bed in 1997. Alison would finally learn her lesson after catching Chris yet again cheating on her which led to Chris returning in 2000. (which the show would retcon the timeline of to an extremely confusing degree with Chris and Alison's son Phoenix being born in 1996.)
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is this for some people where Maeve is concerned. In just three years of being married to Maeve, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; and kissed another woman twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of Rebekah, who manipulated Maeve's emotions and was retconned to have murdered Maeve's son. There's also the hypocrisy with Harper and Quinn: in 2022, Nicole freaked out over Maeve kissing Harper once when both were drunk and Nicole had all but ended her marriage to Maeve. Nicole and Maeve were this close to reconciling and Maeve admitting to the drunken kiss with Harper completely changed Nicole's mind back in favor of divorce. Six months later, though, Nicole kissed Quinn on two separate occasions when both were sober and Nicole and Maeve were very much back on as a couple. Nicole never apologized to Maeve for kissing Quinn (at least not on screen), and it was Quinn–not Nicole–who told Maeve about the cheating in the first place. \n Detractors of the Nicole part of the Maecole relationship often cite that Nicole tends to be the one cheating more often than Maeve.
** ...But people make the same argument about Maeve. She's had three cases (Millie, Alexis, and the kid with the tetanus shot) where she clearly crossed the line ethically speaking as a nurse, which put Nicole in a difficult position as DON. She doesn't express remorse for either one, framing the situation as though she was helpless and had no other option than to cross ethical lines even though she did it very deliberately in every case. She arguably didn't do enough to shut down Theo's attention: she kept the pounamu Theo gave her for Christmas and didn't tell Nicole about it, and she even admitted to being attracted to Theo. Maeve also secretly accepted Leanne's money for a vacation for her and Nicole when Nicole wouldn't have wanted to do so, lying about where she'd gotten the money until Nicole caught her, with nothing to suggest that she'd ever intended to tell Nicole the truth. There was also a period when Tom lived in Ferndale where Nicole felt as though Maeve would talk to anyone else but her, specifically Tom. Finally, there's Maeve kissing Harper. It was clearly unethical of her to kiss Harper specifically, since Harper was happily married to Drew, but it's not as clear-cut of an ethical issue when it comes to Maeve and Nicole's marriage, as Nicole had distanced herself heavily from Maeve at that point and their marriage was implied to be all but over. Before the storyline was aborted and pivoted to Maeve vs Brightshine, Maeve began acting extremely entitled and possessive of Nicole after being dumped. Detractors of Maeve and Nicole's relationship who criticise Maeve will point out Maeve will put herself and her need for what she sees as justice over Nicole, often for extremely selfish reasons such as protecting Cassie during the worst of her drug addiction no matter what and using her as a child surrogate for Wilder, randomly running off and being upset when Nicole called the police to sort the problems with Cassie. Either way, consensus among critics of Nicole and Maeve's relationship is their relationship is toxic no matter who you blame.

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** Dawn Robinson keeps leaving, fans keep hoping she's gone for good and the writers keep bringing her back. Dawn has been around for 6 years as of 2023 and has had no character development or growth. In spite of this, she's been one of the most focused on characters since she showed up in 2017.
** Quinn had shades of this, mainly because it was implied we were meant to treat her as a decent person with a strong love of a woman she couldn't have which drove her mad, rather than the creepy female incel with the odd good trait here or there she actually was. Compare and contrast her and fellow registrar Noah who himself had a crush on a taken woman (Cece, who is married to TK.) During Milo Cross's shooting rampage, Quinn was shot dead, with Maeve comforting the woman who'd borderline stalked, harassed, kissed her wife twice and insulted Maeve to Nicole's face, while Noah (rightly) was told by Cece to pull his head in because she was taken.
** Selina. Loudmouth, brash, obnoxious and repugnant by every measure, Selina has so far managed to ensnare Max Lynch and Dr Love himself, Chris Warner, both good-looking, rich men who could have any woman they wanted, constantly says obnoxious things to people above her at work, has thrown eggs at Drew with no consequence, disrespected her brother's fiance Madonna in their home and not been kicked out. In spite of being a terrible character, the writers are doing what they did with Desi except worse.

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** Before her actual exit in 2023, Dawn Robinson keeps kept leaving, fans keep kept hoping she's she was gone for good good, and the writers keep kept bringing her back. Dawn has had been around for 6 years as of 2023 and has had no little character development or growth. In spite of this, she's been she was one of the most focused on focused-on characters since she showed up in 2017.
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** Quinn had shades of this, mainly because it was implied we were meant to treat her as a decent person with a strong love of a woman she couldn't have which drove her mad, rather than the creepy female incel with the odd good trait here or there she actually was. Compare and contrast her and fellow registrar Noah who himself had a crush on a taken woman (Cece, who is married to TK.) TK). During Milo Cross's shooting rampage, Quinn was shot dead, with Maeve comforting the woman who'd borderline stalked, harassed, stalked and harassed both her and her wife, kissed her wife twice twice, and insulted Maeve to Nicole's face, while Noah was (rightly) was told by Cece to pull his head in because she was taken.
** Selina. Loudmouth, Despite being loudmouthed, brash, obnoxious and repugnant by every measure, Selina has so far managed to ensnare Max Lynch and Dr Dr. Love himself, Chris Warner, both Warner–both good-looking, rich men who could have any woman they wanted, wanted. Notably, she got the edge over Monique when it came to Max by revealing to Max that Monique had a urostomy bag. She constantly says obnoxious things to people above her at work, has thrown eggs at Drew with no consequence, disrespected her brother's fiance Madonna in their home and not been wasn't kicked out. In spite of being a terrible character, the writers are doing what they did with Desi except worse.



** Many characters over the years have become this, most notably Nick Harrison, whose original character was retooled from a drug-abusing badboy into a goofy good guy with a comedic side. A similar thing happened to Shortland Street's IT guy Damo Johnson- originally created to be a goofy nuisance and run-ins with popular characters such as Chris Warner and Mo Hannah, Damo became one of the more popular characters of the mid 10's because of his amusingly socially incompetent personality, rather than in spite of it. Damo became so popular in fact that his sporadic appearances were streamlined into a more regular role.

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** Many characters over the years have become this, most notably Nick Harrison, whose original character was retooled from a drug-abusing badboy into a goofy good guy with a comedic side. A similar thing happened to Shortland Street's IT guy Damo Johnson- originally created to be a goofy nuisance and run-ins with popular characters such as Chris Warner and Mo Hannah, Damo became one of the more popular characters of the mid 10's because of his amusingly socially incompetent personality, rather than in spite of it. Damo became so popular popular, in fact fact, that his sporadic appearances were streamlined into a more regular role.



** Logan Barns, AKA Logan the Bogan has been a sign of the show getting better in 2022. Logan is well-liked for having some of the best lines and being one of the closest things to a hero the show has had in years.

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** Logan Barns, AKA Logan the Bogan Bogan, has been a sign of the show getting better in 2022. Logan is well-liked for having some of the best lines and being one of the closest things to a hero the show has had in years. He's also genuinely kind to and about his love interests (even when things don't work out) and has several female friends–in other words, he's truly respectful to women, despite what his bogan roots might suggest.



** Madonna was incredibly unsympathetic in her early days due to her habit of being generally sanctimonious and obnoxious about her Catholic faith, even telling a coworker and her superior that she doesn't "hate lesbians... just what you do in the bedroom" on *her first day of work.* Brightshine, meanwhile, went from a weird phenomenon to an ObviouslyEvil CorruptChurch that murdered a main character's teen son, making them more of a plot arc than a source of irritation about the way they practiced their religion. It was more Leanne's sanctimonious behavior as a believer that angered viewers than any of Brightshine's more ambiguous beliefs and moves as an institution.



** They got closer to convincing the audience that TK might actually die after the shooting in 2023, when the hospital staff reluctantly removed him from life support after finding an advanced directive (likely a relic from his cancer battle). However, once he entered the dream sequence with Roimata and Sarah turning him away, it was clear that he'd make some sort of miraculous recovery.



** Maeve Mullens seems to have a habit of turning into a teenage girl whenever she's in a new relationship. Literally the same day she told Nicole she was interested (and Nicole turned her down), she showed up at Nicole's house and said "I get that you're scared, but that's love... I'm all in." Her dialogue with Rebekah Anderson was downright cringeworthy at times. The two pledged to keep their relationship a secret, and Maeve went from "I'm not gonna be in a secret relationship with a straight woman" to making out with Rebekah again in the course of about two minutes. She also agreed to their relationship stating "it'll be our secret little world" which itself sounds like an edgy teenage turn of phrase. Of course, this may have been a novel way of showing Rebekah's persuasive power, but the dialogue is cringe nonetheless.
** Speaking of Maeve, fans hated the episode which featured nobody other than her and Drew talking to a therapist. The episode itself was disliked enough, but the corny "everything is OK now" dance montage at the end with Maeve dancing with Wilder's ex-girlfriend in a sickly sweet fashion while some cheesy music played in the background was the icing on the cake.

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** Maeve Mullens seems to have a habit of turning into a teenage girl whenever she's in a new relationship. Literally the same day she told Nicole she was interested (and Nicole turned her down), she showed up at Nicole's house and said "I get that you're scared, but that's love... I'm all in." Her dialogue with Rebekah Anderson was downright cringeworthy at times. The two pledged to keep their relationship a secret, and Maeve went from "I'm not gonna be in a secret relationship with a straight woman" to making out with Rebekah again in the course of about two minutes. She also agreed to their relationship stating when Rebekah stated "it'll be our secret little world" world," which itself sounds like an edgy teenage turn of phrase. Of course, this may have been a novel way of showing Rebekah's persuasive power, but the dialogue is cringe nonetheless.
** Speaking of Maeve, fans hated the episode which that featured nobody other than her and Drew talking to a therapist. The episode itself was disliked enough, but the corny "everything is OK now" dance montage at the end with Maeve dancing with Wilder's ex-girlfriend in a sickly sweet fashion while some cheesy music played in the background was the icing on the cake.
** Arguably Chris and Selina as of 2023. Chris pursuing Selina essentially the same way he did Viv (begging her not to leave and then kissing her) was rendered entirely unrealistic by the fact that–while Viv had her flaws as well–Selina has been nothing but incredibly obnoxious and even malicious since arriving on the show. It very much feels like a PairTheSpares scenario.



** Selina To'a already hit this territory in 2023 within weeks of getting there. Selina somehow combines the worst traits of both Schmidts (Angel's obsession with social media and attention seeking, Desi's lack of tact) and lacks the hidden depths Desi had. Selina does have the occasional moment of being tolerable and behaving like a normal human being, but they're few and far between.

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** Selina To'a already hit this territory in 2023 within weeks of getting there. Two of her first storylines were co-opting Harper's bravery during the shooting as her own story to impress influencer Max Lynch and telling Max about Monique's urostomy bag–a horrible violation of privacy–to gain the edge on Monique for Max's attention. Selina somehow combines the worst traits of both Schmidts (Angel's obsession with social media and attention seeking, Desi's lack of tact) and lacks the hidden depths Desi had. Selina does have the occasional moment of being tolerable and behaving like a normal human being, but they're few and far between.



** Ula Levi finally telling Leanne Miller off after months of pronouncing her name "EW-La."

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** Ula Levi finally telling Leanne Miller Black off after months of pronouncing her name "EW-La."



*** What was hyped as a Ferndale's Next Top Surgeon-type competition didn't play out as such either, after Britt it wasn't until Milo Cross's rampage more registrars would leave the programme, and by his hand rather than by surgical performance.

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*** What was hyped as a Ferndale's Next Top Surgeon-type competition didn't play out as such either, after Britt either. After Britt, it wasn't until Milo Cross's rampage more registrars would leave the programme, and by his hand rather than by surgical performance.



*** Similarly, Madonna is made out to be a prude for not approving of nurses, specifically Maeve, openly flirting in the workplace. Given the aforementioned video call incident more professionalism is not unreasonable to expect.

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*** ** Similarly, Madonna is made out to be a prude for not approving of nurses, specifically Maeve, openly flirting in the workplace. Given the aforementioned video call incident more professionalism is not unreasonable to expect.expect.
** Desi was a terrible partner to Damo on many occasions. However, she was made more sympathetic than her actions probably warranted by the fact that she clearly loved Damo while Leanne still acted as though she had a claim on Damo, often putting Desi in a victim role as a result. Leanne was constantly referring to Desi derisively–including her insistence on calling Desi "Desdemona"–and belittling Desi for various things, including the fact that she dealt with alcoholism. The cherry on top was when Leanne eventually slept with Damo during his marriage to Desi. Though of course that takes two, and Damo was the married one, it seemed especially malicious on Leanne's part due to the way she'd been treating Desi and the fact that Leanne was more concerned about her reputation than actually remorseful for her actions. It was also especially awful since Leanne herself had just had her heart broken by her ex-fiancée, Rosalyn, who cheated on her.



** There's a framing of the Desi storyline where she's a woman struggling with alcoholism who's trying to be a good partner and wife to Damo while being bullied by his ex (Leanne). That interpretation is pretty thoroughly undermined by Desi's overall obnoxiousness as a person and the fact that her relapse resulted in her abandoning Damo after the bus accident. The biggest kicker, though, is Desi telling Tilly at TK and Cece's engagement celebration that TK cheated on Cece with Te Rongopai – not only did Tilly not need that information, but Cece had already assured Desi that she and TK were past it and Desi told Tilly anyway.
** Arguably Esther in the early days of her tenure as CEO. She seemed as though she had a complex about her role in the job and whether she'd earned it (debatable given that her inheriting TK's shares in the hospital made it possible), and she compensated for that by being unnecessarily stringent about a variety of things. She went from likeable colleague to power-grabbing executive with a complex in a flash. She's toned down and become more sympathetic again as of Marty's Zeclastion addiction and facilitating the co-op plan.



* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is this for some people where Maeve is concerned. In the not even three years she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; and kissed another woman twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of Rebekah, who manipulated Maeve's emotions and was retconned to have murdered Maeve's son. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not. While Maeve has hardly been a saint and became increasingly unpleasant to be around up until Rebekah fled Ferndale to the point Nicole wanted to divorce her, Nicole's actions have been selfish at points as well, especially during their most recent go-around.

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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is this for some people where Maeve is concerned. In the not even just three years she and Maeve have been married, of being married to Maeve, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; and kissed another woman twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of Rebekah, who manipulated Maeve's emotions and was retconned to have murdered Maeve's son. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for There's also the hypocrisy with Harper and Quinn: in 2022, Nicole through thick and thin freaked out over Maeve kissing Harper once when both were drunk and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not. While had all but ended her marriage to Maeve. Nicole and Maeve has hardly been a saint were this close to reconciling and became increasingly unpleasant to be around up until Rebekah fled Ferndale Maeve admitting to the point Nicole wanted to divorce her, drunken kiss with Harper completely changed Nicole's actions mind back in favor of divorce. Six months later, though, Nicole kissed Quinn on two separate occasions when both were sober and Nicole and Maeve were very much back on as a couple. Nicole never apologized to Maeve for kissing Quinn (at least not on screen), and it was Quinn–not Nicole–who told Maeve about the cheating in the first place.
** ...But people make the same argument about Maeve. She's had three cases (Millie, Alexis, and the kid with the tetanus shot) where she clearly crossed the line ethically speaking as a nurse, which put Nicole in a difficult position as DON. She doesn't express remorse for either one, framing the situation as though she was helpless and had no other option than to cross ethical lines even though she did it very deliberately in every case. She arguably didn't do enough to shut down Theo's attention: she kept the pounamu Theo gave her for Christmas and didn't tell Nicole about it, and she even admitted to being attracted to Theo. Maeve also secretly accepted Leanne's money for a vacation for her and Nicole when Nicole wouldn't
have been selfish wanted to do so, lying about where she'd gotten the money until Nicole caught her, with nothing to suggest that she'd ever intended to tell Nicole the truth. There was also a period when Tom lived in Ferndale where Nicole felt as though Maeve would talk to anyone else but her, specifically Tom. Finally, there's Maeve kissing Harper. It was clearly unethical of her to kiss Harper specifically, since Harper was happily married to Drew, but it's not as clear-cut of an ethical issue when it comes to Maeve and Nicole's marriage, as Nicole had distanced herself heavily from Maeve at points as well, especially during that point and their most recent go-around.marriage was implied to be all but over.
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** Selina. Loudmouth, brash, obnoxious and repugnant by every measure, Selina has so far managed to ensnare Max Lynch and Dr Love himself, Chris Warner, both good-looking, rich men who could have any woman they wanted, constantly says obnoxious things to people above her at work, has thrown eggs at Drew with no consequence, disrespected her brother's fiance Madonna in their home and not been kicked out. In spite of being a terrible character, the writers are doing what they did with Desi except worse.


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** Again where the LGBT community is concerned, temporary nursing manager Duncan Winters was a somewhat stereotypical CampGay, but he blew up at Jonathon and taught him that flamboyant gay guys are still gay people and deserve the same respect other homosexuals do. At a time where other shows were still using camp gay characters as villains, Duncan was a breath of fresh air in that he was a nice guy.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Shorty has had to go through some overhauls in order to stabilise falling ratings. The two most notable examples over the past 31 years are:
** The massive reset in 2001. Shortland Street's ratings had fallen slowly throughout 1999 due to a couple of years of fan favourites leaving and not being replaced before completely tanking in 2000.
** The Ferndale Strangler storyline was created in response to falling ratings again throughout 2005-2006. It worked, and a lot of fans consider 2007 and by extension 2008 the best years in the history of the show with strong writing and classic characters across the board.

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* InformedWrongness: Due to some writers making a point of pushing their points of view rather than a nuanced one, they'll fall into this trap. Drew is usually the one they're the most guilty with as of 2023. For example, Esther ended the nurse's strike by capping the surgeons' pay and using shares to make funds available for a payrise for the nurses. Drew was portrayed as being wrong for losing his shit, whereas you could make an argument for both sides.

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** As discussed below, both Esther and Madonna are supposed to be sticks in the mud and need to loosen up when it comes to Nicole and Maeve's inability to tone their hormones down at work.
** This was one of Peter Elliott's complaints about David Kearney when he started playing him. Peter found that David was often portrayed as being in the wrong whenever he'd argue with female characters.
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* Ian Seymour was a well-dressed man with a stylish goatee, was well-spoken and intelligent. If it weren't for the whole "homicidal maniac who watched his mother die of a heart attack" deal, he'd have been a catch.


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* InformedWrongness: Due to some writers making a point of pushing their points of view rather than a nuanced one, they'll fall into this trap. Drew is usually the one they're the most guilty with as of 2023. For example, Esther ended the nurse's strike by capping the surgeons' pay and using shares to make funds available for a payrise for the nurses. Drew was portrayed as being wrong for losing his shit, whereas you could make an argument for both sides.

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Madge and Essie are sympathetic, not unsympathetic. Even if they're not supposed to be. lol.


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** Upon becoming CEO in mid-2023 Esther had to deal with staff shenanigans like workplace pranks gone wrong (Harper tricking Drew into losing his clothes) and Nicole and Maeve using the new tele-health initiative to get physically intimate not realising the video call to a patient wasn't closed off. Esther is portrayed as a stick in the mud over quite reasonably concerns.
*** Similarly, Madonna is made out to be a prude for not approving of nurses, specifically Maeve, openly flirting in the workplace. Given the aforementioned video call incident more professionalism is not unreasonable to expect.



** Upon becoming CEO in mid-2023 Esther had to deal with staff shenanigans like workplace pranks gone wrong (Harper tricking Drew into losing his clothes) and Nicole and Maeve using the new tele-health initiative to get physically intimate not realising the video call to a patient wasn't closed off. Esther is portrayed as a stick in the mud over quite reasonably concerns.
*** Similarly, Madonna is made out to be a prude for not approving of nurses, specifically Maeve, openly flirting in the workplace. Given the aforementioned video call incident more professionalism is not unreasonable to expect.
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** Stanley, an older gay guy introduced as a patient who befriended Jack and Dawn. Although he hasn't had a focus in main storylines he provides well received commentary on plot beats he is witness to in his capacity as running the flower stall in reception.


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** Upon becoming CEO in mid-2023 Esther had to deal with staff shenanigans like workplace pranks gone wrong (Harper tricking Drew into losing his clothes) and Nicole and Maeve using the new tele-health initiative to get physically intimate not realising the video call to a patient wasn't closed off. Esther is portrayed as a stick in the mud over quite reasonably concerns.
*** Similarly, Madonna is made out to be a prude for not approving of nurses, specifically Maeve, openly flirting in the workplace. Given the aforementioned video call incident more professionalism is not unreasonable to expect.
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** Quinn's fellow registrar Noah also had an infatuation with a married woman as his main character trait. Always following Cece around and even coming on to her when her husband TK was seemingly on his death bed, viewers weren't unhappy when he departed due to mental health issues.

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** Quinn's fellow registrar Noah also had an infatuation with a married woman as his main character trait. Always following Cece around and even coming on to her when her husband TK was seemingly on his death bed, viewers weren't unhappy when he departed due to mental health issues. Also not helping Noah's cause was his actor constantly mumbling his dialogue.
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** Quinn's fellow registrar Noah also had an infatuation with a married woman as his main character trait. Always following Cece around and even coming on to her when her husband TK was seemingly on his death bed, viewers weren't unhappy when he departed due to mental health issues.


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*** What was hyped as a Ferndale's Next Top Surgeon-type competition didn't play out as such either, after Britt it wasn't until Milo Cross's rampage more registrars would leave the programme, and by his hand rather than by surgical performance.
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** The show really hit a patch of this in 2018 where every character and storyline was going down the route of being unpleasant or over the top bleak. Serial rape storylines, assault on pregnant women, spousal abuse, the topic of aborting babies which would have been born with disabilities, it felt like the writers were trying to go down the route of being dark like the show was in 2007-08 without anything lighthearted or the cast of strong characters to counterbalance it.
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Needed a rewrite. Especially when Nicole had dumped Maeve while Maeve was being manipulated by Rebekah.


* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. In the not even three years she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; and kissed another woman twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of her son's murderer–who is also her former partner. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not. While Maeve has hardly been a saint and became increasingly unpleasant to be around up until Rebekah fled Ferndale to the point Nicole wanted to divorce her, Nicole's actions have been selfish at points as well, especially during their most recent go-around.

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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. for some people where Maeve is concerned. In the not even three years she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; and kissed another woman twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of her son's murderer–who is also her former partner.Rebekah, who manipulated Maeve's emotions and was retconned to have murdered Maeve's son. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not. While Maeve has hardly been a saint and became increasingly unpleasant to be around up until Rebekah fled Ferndale to the point Nicole wanted to divorce her, Nicole's actions have been selfish at points as well, especially during their most recent go-around.

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