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* InformedAttractiveness: After the registrars have shown up in 2023, Harry has been called both hot and attractive by Stella and Britt Adams. Nicole has been talked up as if she's the most beautiful woman on the planet by both Maeve and Quinn. Suffice to say, neither is any more or less attractive than anyone else in the hospital.
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** Stella Reihana is the most well-received of the registrar team in 2023. Stella is well-liked for not only being TheWoobie because of her storyline with a patient who sexually assaulted her, but for being the most well-rounded one of the new cast, having excellent chemistry with the new version of Harry Warner, for being a genuinely likeable protagonist and for having none of the glaring shortcomings of fellow newcomers Quinn and Parker.
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** The registrar team started with 6 characters and ended with 3 left. The problem comes from the fact that as soon as their first week came to an end we were down to 5 after Britt Adams quit. Fans asked what the point of having her there to start with was, given most of her story was transferred to Stella. Britt was introduced seducing Harry Warner, followed by being the cream of the new crop. But after convincing Drew to let her run a surgery, Britt quit and laid a complaint against the hospital, never to be seen and barely referenced again.
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* BrokenBase: Maeve and Nicole's relationship. There's the Maecole camp of fans, several of whom act like the show revolves solely around Nicole and Maeve's relationships and families while the rest of the characters and stories are just extra added whatevers. Then you have another group of fans who find the relationship to be unrealistic and find Maecole fans annoying, obsessed and wish Maeve and Nicole would split with either one or both leaving so the Maecole fans will follow. And THEN you have a third camp who really don't care, wish both camps would be quiet and just want to watch the show.
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* LGBTFanbase: Shortland Street has always appealed to a gay demographic due to being the first Kiwi show to have gay characters in it as well as the first to have a proper lesbian couple, but as of 2020 it's had a fanbase of "Maecole" fans who like Nicole and Maeve due to their saccharine, almost romance novel-like nature, rather than previous, more realistic gay relationships. The relationship has led to a large increase in fans who exclusively watch the show for the lesbian romance.
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** Speaking of Maeve, fans hated the episode which featured nobody other than her and Drew talking to a therapist. The episode itself was disliked enough, but the corny "everything is OK now" dance montage at the end with Maeve dancing with Wilder's ex-girlfriend in a sickly sweet fashion while some cheesy music played in the background was the icing on the cake.
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That's an incorrect use of the tropes. The trope is where people downplay someone's evil traits. Not "They'd be alright in spite of this, also Maeve was seemingly happy with her." (She was being brainwashed and Rebekah was manipulating her.)
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** Some fans expressed frustration that the show had to make Rebekah so cartoonishly evil, as she and Maeve had serious chemistry and she seemed to make Maeve genuinely happy even in spite of their very different values. Two relatively minor plot changes–leaving out the retcon of Wilder's murder so that Scott had indeed killed him and leaving Scott to die naturally in the fire rather than having Rebekah killing him–would have allowed Maeve and Rebekah the happy ending that a lot of sapphic Shorty fans were rooting for early on. Unfortunately, it quickly became clear that she had at best ordered Maeve's son Wilder's murder, and it was revealed at the end of her arc that she'd actually murdered Wilder herself, which obviously made any long-term future for her and Maeve a non-starter.
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** The same was true with Meredith Fleming and Annie Flynn. Marj Nielson was again the audience surrogate and treated as being wrong for being offended by Meredith and Annie being lesbians and while the two were again StraightGay characters, they were treated as regular people rather than sideshows as was still traditional in NZ media in 1994.
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** The same was true with Meredith Fleming and Annie Flynn. Marj Nielson Neilson was again the audience surrogate and treated as being wrong for being offended by Meredith and Annie being lesbians and while the two were again StraightGay characters, they were treated as regular people rather than sideshows as was still traditional in NZ media in 1994.
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Rebekah wasn't actually in love with Maeve. It was pretty clear she was manipulating her.
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** Maeve Mullens seems to have a habit of turning into a teenage girl whenever she's in a new relationship. Literally the same day she told Nicole she was interested (and Nicole turned her down), she showed up at Nicole's house and said "I get that you're scared, but that's love... I'm all in." Her dialogue with Rebekah Anderson was downright cringeworthy at times. The two pledged to keep their relationship a secret, and Maeve went from "I'm not gonna be in a secret relationship with a straight woman" to making out with Rebekah again in the course of about two minutes. She also agreed to their relationship stating "it'll be our secret little world" which itself sounds like an edgy teenage turn of phrase. Of course, this may have been a novel way of showing Rebekah's persuasive power and giving her an interesting arc (closeted head of a fundamentalist megachurch) at the same time, but the dialogue is cringe nonetheless.
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** Maeve Mullens seems to have a habit of turning into a teenage girl whenever she's in a new relationship. Literally the same day she told Nicole she was interested (and Nicole turned her down), she showed up at Nicole's house and said "I get that you're scared, but that's love... I'm all in." Her dialogue with Rebekah Anderson was downright cringeworthy at times. The two pledged to keep their relationship a secret, and Maeve went from "I'm not gonna be in a secret relationship with a straight woman" to making out with Rebekah again in the course of about two minutes. She also agreed to their relationship stating "it'll be our secret little world" which itself sounds like an edgy teenage turn of phrase. Of course, this may have been a novel way of showing Rebekah's persuasive power and giving her an interesting arc (closeted head of a fundamentalist megachurch) at the same time, power, but the dialogue is cringe nonetheless.
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** The same was true with Meredith Fleming and Annie Flynn. Marj Nielson was again the audience surrogate and treated as being wrong for being offended by Meredith and Annie being lesbians and while the two were again StraightGays, they were treated as regular people rather than sideshows as was still traditional in NZ media in 1994.
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** The same was true with Meredith Fleming and Annie Flynn. Marj Nielson was again the audience surrogate and treated as being wrong for being offended by Meredith and Annie being lesbians and while the two were again StraightGays, StraightGay characters, they were treated as regular people rather than sideshows as was still traditional in NZ media in 1994.
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* FanPreferredCouple: The original was Nick and Waverley, along with Kirsty and Lionel. Nick and Waverley obviously ended happily ever after. Lionel and Kirsty? Not so much.
** Currently, Maeve and Nicole have a massive fanbase on social media. "Maecole" is popular to a certain section of the LGBT community, almost to an obsessive degree.
** Currently, Maeve and Nicole have a massive fanbase on social media. "Maecole" is popular to a certain section of the LGBT community, almost to an obsessive degree.
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*** Ambulance driver Dennis Cracknell from the first few weeks of the show's run. He was supposed to be a HateSink with his blatant racism and repugnant personality, but the fact that every word of dialogue out of his mouth was a PG racial slur (TVNZ Standards and Practices wouldn't allow the N Word) or an obvious "I'm a bad guy!" bit of dialogue meant his entire personality fell flat.
*** Curtis Hannah showing up at the Warner Mansion after his sister Pixie died was supposed to be dramatic, with Curtis punching Chris showing how poorly he was handling his grief. Instead we got a badly slurred "I'm mad atchu Doctah Wahnah!" with overexaggerated pointing. Bonus points because Jayden Daniels is normally a good actor.
** Maeve Mullens seems to have a habit of turning into a teenage girl whenever she's in a new relationship. Literally the same day she told Nicole she was interested (and Nicole turned her down), she showed up at Nicole's house and said "I get that you're scared, but that's love... I'm all in." Her dialogue with Rebekah Anderson was downright cringeworthy at times. The two pledged to keep their relationship a secret, and Maeve went from "I'm not gonna be in a secret relationship with a straight woman" to making out with Rebekah again in the course of about two minutes. Of course, this may have been a novel way of showing Rebekah's persuasive power and giving her an interesting arc (closeted head of a fundamentalist megachurch) at the same time, but the dialogue is cringe nonetheless.
*** Curtis Hannah showing up at the Warner Mansion after his sister Pixie died was supposed to be dramatic, with Curtis punching Chris showing how poorly he was handling his grief. Instead we got a badly slurred "I'm mad atchu Doctah Wahnah!" with overexaggerated pointing. Bonus points because Jayden Daniels is normally a good actor.
** Maeve Mullens seems to have a habit of turning into a teenage girl whenever she's in a new relationship. Literally the same day she told Nicole she was interested (and Nicole turned her down), she showed up at Nicole's house and said "I get that you're scared, but that's love... I'm all in." Her dialogue with Rebekah Anderson was downright cringeworthy at times. The two pledged to keep their relationship a secret, and Maeve went from "I'm not gonna be in a secret relationship with a straight woman" to making out with Rebekah again in the course of about two minutes. Of course, this may have been a novel way of showing Rebekah's persuasive power and giving her an interesting arc (closeted head of a fundamentalist megachurch) at the same time, but the dialogue is cringe nonetheless.
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** Maeve Mullens seems to have a habit of turning into a teenage girl whenever she's in a new relationship. Literally the same day she told Nicole she was interested (and Nicole turned her down), she showed up at Nicole's house and said "I get that you're scared, but that's love... I'm all in." Her dialogue with Rebekah Anderson was downright cringeworthy at times. The two pledged to keep their relationship a secret, and Maeve went from "I'm not gonna be in a secret relationship with a straight woman" to making out with Rebekah again in the course of about two minutes. She also agreed to their relationship stating "it'll be our secret little world" which itself sounds like an edgy teenage turn of phrase. Of course, this may have been a novel way of showing Rebekah's persuasive power and giving her an interesting arc (closeted head of a fundamentalist megachurch) at the same time, but the dialogue is cringe nonetheless.
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** Harry Warner became less of a caustic brat in his teen years. While this can be chalked up to Harry growing up, it can also be DependingOnTheWriter too, since his new personality coincided with new writers coming aboard the show.
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** Harry Warner became less of a caustic brat in his teen years. While this can be chalked up to Harry growing up, it can also be DependingOnTheWriter too, since his new personality coincided with new writers coming aboard the show. He'd be rescued again during 2023 when the writers started toning down his newfound "I hate my father" personality traits which the character never had before and began focusing more on his relationship with Stella and mending his previously non-existent issues with his father.
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** Selina To'a already hit this territory in 2023 within weeks of getting there. Selina somehow combines the worst traits of both Schmidts (Angel's obsession with social media and attention seeking, Desi's lack of tact) and lacks the hidden depths Desi had. Selina does have the occasional moment of being tolerable and behaving like a normal human being, but they're few and far between.
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* MandelaEffect: Due to only a limited run of reruns originally, several things from the show's early years were forgotten about or incorrectly remembered by fans and so were accepted as the truth until the show reran again in 2009. One example was one of Carrie Burton's triplets being referred to as "Flynn" in articles and write-ups prior to 2010, when upon rewatch his name is in fact Finbar, not Flynn. Thankfully, this led to him having his correct name when the character reappeared in 2017.
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* MandelaEffect: Due to only a limited run of reruns originally, several things from the show's early years were forgotten about or incorrectly remembered by fans and so were accepted as the truth until the show reran again in 2009. One example was one of Carrie Burton's triplets being referred to as "Flynn" in articles and write-ups prior to 2010, when upon rewatch his name is in fact Finbar, not Flynn. Thankfully, this led to him having his correct name when the character reappeared in 2017. Damien Neilson was also referred to as Darryl Neilson's twin brother due to being played by the same actor, but Damien was actually Darryl's younger brother.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. In the not even three years she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; and kissed another woman twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of her son's murderer–who is also her former partner. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. In the not even three years she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; and kissed another woman twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of her son's murderer–who is also her former partner. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not. While Maeve has hardly been a saint and became increasingly unpleasant to be around up until Rebekah fled Ferndale to the point Nicole wanted to divorce her, Nicole's actions have been selfish at points as well, especially during their most recent go-around.
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Man, I can't write tonight.
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** Quinn had shades of this, mainly because it was implied we were meant to treat her as a decent person with a strong love of a woman she couldn't have which drove her mad, rather than the creepy female incel with the odd good trait here or there. Compare and contrast her and fellow registar Noah who himself had a crush on a taken woman (Cece, who is married to TK.) During Milo Cross's shooting rampage, Quinn was shot dead, with Maeve comforting the woman who'd borderline stalked, harassed, kissed her wife twice and insulted Maeve to Nicole's face, while Noah (rightly) was told by Cece to pull his head in because she was taken.
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** Quinn had shades of this, mainly because it was implied we were meant to treat her as a decent person with a strong love of a woman she couldn't have which drove her mad, rather than the creepy female incel with the odd good trait here or there. there she actually was. Compare and contrast her and fellow registar registrar Noah who himself had a crush on a taken woman (Cece, who is married to TK.) During Milo Cross's shooting rampage, Quinn was shot dead, with Maeve comforting the woman who'd borderline stalked, harassed, kissed her wife twice and insulted Maeve to Nicole's face, while Noah (rightly) was told by Cece to pull his head in because she was taken.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Parker Dawson in contrast to Milo Cross. You know you're a dick when the audience has less sympathy for you than a violent kid who shot up a hospital and killed several people. Admittedly, Milo lost both parents, was baiting into getting arrested and began to self-harm and had somewhat of a sympathetic backstory. Meanwhile Parker is just an arrogant, backstabbing, underhanded douchebag trying to earn a placement in a scummy fashion with no excuse.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Parker Dawson in contrast to Milo Cross. You know you're a dick when the audience has less sympathy for you than a violent kid who shot up a hospital and killed several people. Admittedly, Milo lost both parents, was baiting baited by Marty into getting arrested and arrested, began to self-harm after being released into a halfway home and had somewhat of a sympathetic backstory. Meanwhile Parker is just an arrogant, backstabbing, underhanded douchebag trying to earn a placement in a scummy fashion with no excuse.
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** Leanne is either a meddling busybody who needs to butt out of [insert pretty much any character here]'s business, or a devoted mum, grandmum, and hospital volunteer who can occasionally be a bit high-and-mighty. The fandom seemed to have a bit more consensus on her during her initial fling with Rosalyn (especially sympathetic) and during her Brightshine era (especially unsympathetic) respectively.
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** Leanne is either a meddling busybody who needs to butt out of [insert pretty much any character here]'s business, or a devoted mum, grandmum, and hospital volunteer who can occasionally be a bit high-and-mighty. The fandom seemed to have a bit more consensus on her during her initial fling with Rosalyn (especially sympathetic) and during her Brightshine era (especially unsympathetic) respectively. There's also the matter of whether she changed enough between when she first showed up and when she left. Obviously she'd changed as a person for the better (compare her homophobia being an actual issue between her and Nicole versus later on when it was treated more as a running gag, especially after she'd hooked up with Rosalyn), but whether it was enough to make Leanne tolerable or not varies from person to person.
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** Quinn had shades of this, mainly because it was implied we were meant to treat her as a decent person with a strong love of a woman she couldn't have which drove her mad, rather than the creepy female incel with the odd good trait here or there. Compare and contrast her and fellow registar Noah who himself had a crush on a taken woman (Cece, who is married to TK.) During Milo Cross's shooting rampage, Quinn was shot dead, with Maeve comforting the woman who'd borderline stalked, harassed, kissed her wife twice and insulted Maeve to Nicole's face, while Noah (rightly) was told by Cece to pull his head in because she was taken.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Parker Dawson in contrast to Milo Cross. You know you're a dick when the audience has less sympathy for you than a violent kid who shot up a hospital and killed several people. Admittedly, Milo lost both parents, was baiting into getting arrested and began to self-harm and had somewhat of a sympathetic backstory. Meanwhile Parker is just an arrogant, backstabbing, underhanded douchebag trying to earn a placement in a scummy fashion with no excuse.
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* MandelaEffect: Due to only a limited run of reruns originally, several things from the show's early years were forgotten about or incorrectly remembered by fans and so were accepted as the truth until the show reran again in 2009. The prime examples was one of Carrie Burton's triplets being referred to as "Flynn", when upon rewatch his name is in fact Finbar, not Flynn.
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* MandelaEffect: Due to only a limited run of reruns originally, several things from the show's early years were forgotten about or incorrectly remembered by fans and so were accepted as the truth until the show reran again in 2009. The prime examples One example was one of Carrie Burton's triplets being referred to as "Flynn", "Flynn" in articles and write-ups prior to 2010, when upon rewatch his name is in fact Finbar, not Flynn.Flynn. Thankfully, this led to him having his correct name when the character reappeared in 2017.
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** Thomasin McKenzie (Pixie Hannah) is getting increasingly famous for film roles, notably ''Film/LeaveNoTrace''.
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** Thomasin McKenzie Mckenzie (Pixie Hannah) is getting increasingly famous for film roles, notably ''Film/LeaveNoTrace''.
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* MandelaEffect: Due to only a limited run of reruns originally, several things from the show's early years were forgotten about or incorrectly remembered by fans and so were accepted as the truth until the show reran again in 2009. The prime examples was one of Carrie Burton's triplets being referred to as "Flynn", when upon rewatch his name is in fact Finbar, not Flynn.
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Several of those were either outright incorrect or things Nicole did whole the two were separated. They were also not divorced and Nicole didn't split for no reason. Maeve had been acting like a dick to everybody which Nicole explained when she kicked her out. In fact,Maeve was clearly the one acting inappropriate and creepy before the stuff with Wilder happened.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. In the not even three years she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; divorced Maeve for basically no reason; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; brought Maeve to a wedding she wasn't ready to attend only to sneak off with Drew; get angry at Maeve and Rebekah for kissing after Maeve and Nicole had already broken up and Nicole had slept with both Drew and Rahu; tell Maeve, who'd attempted suicide very recently, that she could "go to hell, for all I care"; and kissed another woman twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of her son's murderer–who is also her former partner. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. In the not even three years she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; divorced Maeve for basically no reason; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; brought Maeve to a wedding she wasn't ready to attend only to sneak off with Drew; get angry at Maeve and Rebekah for kissing after Maeve and Nicole had already broken up and Nicole had slept with both Drew and Rahu; tell Maeve, who'd attempted suicide very recently, that she could "go to hell, for all I care"; and kissed another woman twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of her son's murderer–who is also her former partner. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
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* AlasPoorScrappy: Quinn Cox's death was tragic because of the circumstances, dying in a hospital under siege with a crazed gunman firing on everybody, as she had her hand held by the wife of the woman she loved. It was an effective tearjerker watching Quinn slip away bonding over the love she and Maeve had for Nicole.
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Fans can't tell whether Shorty's writers are accidentally writing QuinnCox to be a predatory creep, or if they're doing it on purpose and she's meant to an actual scumbag with major cognitive dissonance.
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Fans can't tell whether Shorty's writers are accidentally writing Quinn
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** Some fans expressed frustration that the show had to make Rebekah so cartoonishly evil, as she and Maeve had serious chemistry and she seemed to make Maeve genuinely happy even in spite of their ValuesDissonance. Two relatively minor plot changes–leaving out the retcon of Wilder's murder so that Scott had indeed killed him and leaving Scott to die naturally in the fire rather than having Rebekah killing him–would have allowed Maeve and Rebekah the happy ending that a lot of sapphic Shorty fans were rooting for early on. Unfortunately, it quickly became clear that she had at best ordered Maeve's son Wilder's murder, and it was revealed at the end of her arc that she'd actually murdered Wilder herself, which obviously made any long-term future for her and Maeve a non-starter.
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** Some fans expressed frustration that the show had to make Rebekah so cartoonishly evil, as she and Maeve had serious chemistry and she seemed to make Maeve genuinely happy even in spite of their ValuesDissonance.very different values. Two relatively minor plot changes–leaving out the retcon of Wilder's murder so that Scott had indeed killed him and leaving Scott to die naturally in the fire rather than having Rebekah killing him–would have allowed Maeve and Rebekah the happy ending that a lot of sapphic Shorty fans were rooting for early on. Unfortunately, it quickly became clear that she had at best ordered Maeve's son Wilder's murder, and it was revealed at the end of her arc that she'd actually murdered Wilder herself, which obviously made any long-term future for her and Maeve a non-starter.
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** Some fans expressed frustration that the show had to make Rebekah *so* evil, as she and Maeve had serious chemistry and she seemed to make Maeve genuinely happy. Two relatively minor plot changes–leaving out the retcon of Wilder's murder so that Scott had indeed killed him and leaving Scott to die naturally in the fire rather than having Rebekah killing him–Maeve and Rebekah could've had the happy ending that a lot of sapphic Shorty fans were rooting for early on, even in spite of their ValuesDissonance. Unfortunately, it quickly became clear that she had at best ordered Maeve's son Wilder's murder, and it was revealed at the end of her arc that she'd actually murdered Wilder herself, which obviously made any long-term future for her and Maeve a non-starter.
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** Some fans expressed frustration that the show had to make Rebekah *so* so cartoonishly evil, as she and Maeve had serious chemistry and she seemed to make Maeve genuinely happy. happy even in spite of their ValuesDissonance. Two relatively minor plot changes–leaving out the retcon of Wilder's murder so that Scott had indeed killed him and leaving Scott to die naturally in the fire rather than having Rebekah killing him–Maeve him–would have allowed Maeve and Rebekah could've had the happy ending that a lot of sapphic Shorty fans were rooting for early on, even in spite of their ValuesDissonance.on. Unfortunately, it quickly became clear that she had at best ordered Maeve's son Wilder's murder, and it was revealed at the end of her arc that she'd actually murdered Wilder herself, which obviously made any long-term future for her and Maeve a non-starter.
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** Some fans expressed frustration that the show had to make Rebekah *so* evil, as she and Maeve had serious chemistry and she seemed to make Maeve genuinely happy. If the show had left it so that Scott had killed Wilder and left Scott to die in the fire so that Rebekah hadn't killed him, they could've had the happy ending that a lot of sapphic Shorty fans were rooting for early on, in spite of their ValuesDissonance. Unfortunately, it quickly became clear that she had at best ordered Maeve's son Wilder's murder, and it was revealed at the end of her arc that she'd actually murdered Wilder herself, which obviously made any long-term future for her and Maeve a non-starter.
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** Some fans expressed frustration that the show had to make Rebekah *so* evil, as she and Maeve had serious chemistry and she seemed to make Maeve genuinely happy. If Two relatively minor plot changes–leaving out the show had left it retcon of Wilder's murder so that Scott had indeed killed Wilder him and left leaving Scott to die naturally in the fire so that rather than having Rebekah hadn't killed him, they killing him–Maeve and Rebekah could've had the happy ending that a lot of sapphic Shorty fans were rooting for early on, even in spite of their ValuesDissonance. Unfortunately, it quickly became clear that she had at best ordered Maeve's son Wilder's murder, and it was revealed at the end of her arc that she'd actually murdered Wilder herself, which obviously made any long-term future for her and Maeve a non-starter.
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** Some fans expressed frustration that the show had to make Rebekah *so* evil, as she and Maeve had serious chemistry and she seemed to make Maeve genuinely happy. If the show had left it so that Scott had killed Wilder and left Scott to die in the fire so that Rebekah hadn't killed him, they could've had the happy ending that a lot of sapphic Shorty fans were rooting for early on, in spite of their ValuesDissonance. Unfortunately, it quickly became clear that she had at best ordered Maeve's son Wilder's murder, and it was revealed at the end of her arc that she'd actually murdered Wilder herself, which obviously made any long-term future for her and Maeve a non-starter.
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*** Desi Schmidt is either hilarious or someone who should have been written out of the show yesterday.
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** Leanne is either a meddling busybody who needs to butt out of [insert pretty much any character here]'s business, or a devoted mum, grandmum, and hospital volunteer who can occasionally be a bit high-and-mighty. The fandom seemed to have a bit more consensus on her during her initial fling with Rosalyn (especially sympathetic) and during her Brightshine era (especially unsympathetic) respectively.
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** Quinn Cox is hated by most sections of the fanbase, both for her overall predatory ways and for threatening the fan favorite couple of Nicole and Maeve. Her initial attempts to score a threesome with Nicole and Maeve involved borderline workplace sexual harassment of both nurses. Now that she's pursuing Nicole alone–going so far as to insult Maeve to Nicole's face–it's not clear whether her attempts to get involved in Nicole and Maeve's marriage were an early interest in both or just a creepy but "ethical" way for Quinn to get to Nicole before settling for outright homewrecking once Maeve made it clear wasn't interested. Part of the fanbase also dislikes the fact she used Parker Dawson–himself an unpopular character–for sex as a way of blowing off steam from being rejected the second time and making Parker temporarily sympathetic by extension with how coldly she rejected him. Some fans have even nickamed her "Quinncel" for her incel behavior and correctly noted that if a man had done what she's done, he'd be a villain.
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** Quinn Cox is hated by most sections of the fanbase, both for her overall predatory ways and for threatening the fan favorite couple of Nicole and Maeve. Her initial attempts to score a threesome with Nicole and Maeve involved borderline workplace sexual harassment of both nurses. Now that she's pursuing Nicole alone–going so far as to insult Maeve to Nicole's face–it's not clear whether her attempts to get involved in Nicole and Maeve's marriage were an early interest in both or just a creepy but "ethical" way for Quinn to get to Nicole before settling for outright homewrecking once Maeve made it clear wasn't interested. said no. Part of the fanbase also dislikes the fact she used Parker Dawson–himself an unpopular character–for sex as a way of blowing off steam from being rejected the second time and making Parker temporarily sympathetic by extension with how coldly she rejected him. extension. Some fans have even nickamed her "Quinncel" for her incel behavior and correctly noted that if a man had done what she's done, he'd be widely considered a villain.creep.
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** Quinn Cox is hated by most sections of the fanbase. You have the "Maecole" fans who hate her for trying to split up their favourite couple, and the rest of the Shorty fanbase hates her for being a predator who can't take no for an answer. Her initial attempts to score a threesome with Nicole and Maeve involved borderline workplace sexual harassment of both nurses. Now that she's pursuing Nicole alone–going so far as to insult Maeve to Nicole's face–it's not clear whether her attempts to get involved in Nicole and Maeve's marriage were an early interest in both or just a creepy but "ethical" way to get to the married Nicole before she got comfortable with outright homewrecking. Part of the fanbase also dislikes the fact she used Parker Dawson, himself an unpopular character, for sex as a way of blowing off steam from being rejected the second time and making Parker temporarily sympathetic by extension. Several fans have cited that if a man behaved the way Quinn did, it would be treated as the incel behaviour it is and he'd more than likely be a villain, with some fans even nicknaming her "Quinncel."
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** Quinn Cox is hated by most sections of the fanbase. You have fanbase, both for her overall predatory ways and for threatening the "Maecole" fans who hate her for trying to split up their favourite couple, fan favorite couple of Nicole and the rest of the Shorty fanbase hates her for being a predator who can't take no for an answer.Maeve. Her initial attempts to score a threesome with Nicole and Maeve involved borderline workplace sexual harassment of both nurses. Now that she's pursuing Nicole alone–going so far as to insult Maeve to Nicole's face–it's not clear whether her attempts to get involved in Nicole and Maeve's marriage were an early interest in both or just a creepy but "ethical" way for Quinn to get to the married Nicole before she got comfortable with settling for outright homewrecking. homewrecking once Maeve made it clear wasn't interested. Part of the fanbase also dislikes the fact she used Parker Dawson, himself Dawson–himself an unpopular character, for character–for sex as a way of blowing off steam from being rejected the second time and making Parker temporarily sympathetic by extension. Several extension with how coldly she rejected him. Some fans have cited even nickamed her "Quinncel" for her incel behavior and correctly noted that if a man behaved the way Quinn did, it would be treated as the incel behaviour it is and had done what she's done, he'd more than likely be a villain, with some fans even nicknaming her "Quinncel." villain.
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** Quinn Cox is hated by most sections of the fanbase. You have the "Maecole" fans who hate her for trying to split up their favourite couple, and the rest of the Shorty fanbase hates her for being a predator who can't take no for an answer. It's made worse by the fact the writers keep trying to promote her as this nice bisexual girl who just happens to be in love with Nicole. The problem is she's been told no by Nicole repeatedly and knows Nicole is married yet kept badgering her until Nicole gave in. Part of the fanbase also dislikes the fact she used Parker Dawson, himself an unpopular character for sex as a way of blowing off steam from being rejected the second time and making Parker temporarily sympathetic by extension. Several fans have cited that if a man behaved the way Quinn did, it would be treated as the incel behaviour it is and he'd more than likely be a villain.
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** Quinn Cox is hated by most sections of the fanbase. You have the "Maecole" fans who hate her for trying to split up their favourite couple, and the rest of the Shorty fanbase hates her for being a predator who can't take no for an answer. It's made worse by the fact the writers keep trying Her initial attempts to promote her as this nice bisexual girl who just happens to be in love score a threesome with Nicole. The problem is Nicole and Maeve involved borderline workplace sexual harassment of both nurses. Now that she's been told no by pursuing Nicole repeatedly and knows alone–going so far as to insult Maeve to Nicole's face–it's not clear whether her attempts to get involved in Nicole is and Maeve's marriage were an early interest in both or just a creepy but "ethical" way to get to the married yet kept badgering her until Nicole gave in. before she got comfortable with outright homewrecking. Part of the fanbase also dislikes the fact she used Parker Dawson, himself an unpopular character character, for sex as a way of blowing off steam from being rejected the second time and making Parker temporarily sympathetic by extension. Several fans have cited that if a man behaved the way Quinn did, it would be treated as the incel behaviour it is and he'd more than likely be a villain.villain, with some fans even nicknaming her "Quinncel."
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** Maeve Mullens seems to have a habit of turning into a teenage girl whenever she's in a new relationship. Her and Nicole are sickly sweet, but her dialogue with Rebekah Anderson was downright cringeworthy at times. The two pledged to keep their relationship a secret with Maeve telling Rebekah "This will be our secret little world." It sounded like something from a teenage lesbian's romance novel.
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** Maeve Mullens seems to have a habit of turning into a teenage girl whenever she's in a new relationship. Her and Literally the same day she told Nicole are sickly sweet, she was interested (and Nicole turned her down), she showed up at Nicole's house and said "I get that you're scared, but her that's love... I'm all in." Her dialogue with Rebekah Anderson was downright cringeworthy at times. The two pledged to keep their relationship a secret, and Maeve went from "I'm not gonna be in a secret relationship with Maeve telling a straight woman" to making out with Rebekah "This will be our secret little world." It sounded like something from again in the course of about two minutes. Of course, this may have been a teenage lesbian's romance novel.novel way of showing Rebekah's persuasive power and giving her an interesting arc (closeted head of a fundamentalist megachurch) at the same time, but the dialogue is cringe nonetheless.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. In the not even three years she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; divorced Maeve for basically no reason; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; brought Maeve to a wedding she wasn't ready to attend only to sneak off with Drew; get angry at Maeve and Rebekah for kissing after Maeve and Nicole had already broken up and Nicole had slept with both Drew and Rahu; tell Maeve, who'd attempted suicide very recently, that she could "go to hell, for all I care"; and kiss another doctor twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of her son's murderer–who is also her former partner. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. In the not even three years she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; divorced Maeve for basically no reason; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; brought Maeve to a wedding she wasn't ready to attend only to sneak off with Drew; get angry at Maeve and Rebekah for kissing after Maeve and Nicole had already broken up and Nicole had slept with both Drew and Rahu; tell Maeve, who'd attempted suicide very recently, that she could "go to hell, for all I care"; and kiss kissed another doctor woman twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of her son's murderer–who is also her former partner. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. In the not even three years she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; divorced Maeve for basically no reason; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; brought Maeve to a wedding she wasn't ready to attend only to sneak off with Drew; get angry at Maeve and Rebekah for kissing after Maeve and Nicole had already broken up and Nicole had slept with both Drew and Rahu; tell Maeve, who'd attempted suicide very recently, that she could "go to hell, for all I care"; and kiss another doctor twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through her son's murder trial. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. In the not even three years she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; divorced Maeve for basically no reason; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; brought Maeve to a wedding she wasn't ready to attend only to sneak off with Drew; get angry at Maeve and Rebekah for kissing after Maeve and Nicole had already broken up and Nicole had slept with both Drew and Rahu; tell Maeve, who'd attempted suicide very recently, that she could "go to hell, for all I care"; and kiss another doctor twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through the trial of her son's murder trial.murderer–who is also her former partner. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. In the not even three years they've been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; divorced Maeve for basically no reason; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; brought Maeve to a wedding she wasn't ready to attend only to sneak off with Drew; get angry at Maeve and Rebekah for kissing after Maeve and Nicole had already broken up and Nicole had slept with both Drew and Rahu; tell Maeve, who'd attempted suicide very recently, that she could "go to hell, for all I care"; and kiss another doctor twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through her son's murder trial. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory. In the not even three years they've she and Maeve have been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; divorced Maeve for basically no reason; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; brought Maeve to a wedding she wasn't ready to attend only to sneak off with Drew; get angry at Maeve and Rebekah for kissing after Maeve and Nicole had already broken up and Nicole had slept with both Drew and Rahu; tell Maeve, who'd attempted suicide very recently, that she could "go to hell, for all I care"; and kiss another doctor twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through her son's murder trial. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory with Maeve. In the not even three years they've been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; divorced Maeve for basically no reason; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; brought Maeve to a wedding she wasn't ready to attend only to sneak off with Drew; get angry at Maeve and Rebekah for kissing after Maeve and Nicole had already broken up and Nicole had slept with both Drew and Rahu; tell Maeve, who'd attempted suicide very recently, that she could "go to hell, for all I care"; and kiss another doctor twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through her son's murder trial. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory with Maeve.territory. In the not even three years they've been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; divorced Maeve for basically no reason; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; brought Maeve to a wedding she wasn't ready to attend only to sneak off with Drew; get angry at Maeve and Rebekah for kissing after Maeve and Nicole had already broken up and Nicole had slept with both Drew and Rahu; tell Maeve, who'd attempted suicide very recently, that she could "go to hell, for all I care"; and kiss another doctor twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through her son's murder trial. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Nicole is approaching this territory with Maeve. In the not even three years they've been married, she has: distanced herself from her wife at the suggestion of a therapist she barely knew, including going on what was supposed to be their honeymoon by herself (well, with Pele); falsely accused Maeve of cheating on her with Theo when all that went on was a one-sided crush and unwanted kiss while Maeve was stuck in a hospital bed; defended Madonna after she was blatantly homophobic to Maeve and Nicole (her new boss) on her first day of work; divorced Maeve for basically no reason; halfheartedly supported Maeve after her son died for about two weeks; brought Maeve to a wedding she wasn't ready to attend only to sneak off with Drew; get angry at Maeve and Rebekah for kissing after Maeve and Nicole had already broken up and Nicole had slept with both Drew and Rahu; tell Maeve, who'd attempted suicide very recently, that she could "go to hell, for all I care"; and kiss another doctor twice, in the midst of Maeve struggling through her son's murder trial. Maeve's had her own less-than-perfect moments, but overall she's been there for Nicole through thick and thin and Nicole has acted selfishly more often than not.
