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* AuthorAppeal: Both Julia and Sephiroth like many things that Sephirothslave likes, including some books and manga from our world.



* FanFicChopSuey: Both Julia and Sephiroth like many things that Sephirothslave likes, including some books and manga from our world.
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* There are some instances in the stories which can be interpreted as homophobia:
** Julia reacts to the suggestion that she might be gay as if it were a terrible insult.
** Rufus Shinra is portrayed as a stereotypical, lust-filled homosexual with no sense of personal space. Even worse, his own father tells Sephiroth and Julia that they feel more like his children to him than the flamboyant Rufus.

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* ** There are some instances in the stories which can be interpreted as homophobia:
** *** Julia reacts to the suggestion that she might be gay as if it were a terrible insult.
** *** Rufus Shinra is portrayed as a stereotypical, lust-filled homosexual with no sense of personal space. Even worse, his own father tells Sephiroth and Julia that they feel more like his children to him than the flamboyant Rufus.
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* There are some instances in the stories which can be interpreted as homophobia:
** Julia reacts to the suggestion that she might be gay as if it were a terrible insult.
** Rufus Shinra is portrayed as a stereotypical, lust-filled homosexual with no sense of personal space. Even worse, his own father tells Sephiroth and Julia that they feel more like his children to him than the flamboyant Rufus.
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** The people of Wutai could fit this trope. They declare war on Shinra but don't actually do anything to harm them, and Shinra sends Sephiroth and Julia, huge fans of the FinalSolution. They order the army to decimate every settlement they come across and eventually kill millions by summoning Bahamut to wipe out the capital. From start to finish, Shinra is seen as the agressor, and Wutai does nothing but try to defend itself. Also counts as PlotHole, since the Wutai capital alone had two million ninjas, while the entire Shinra army had barely a hundred thousand people.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: It's hard not to feel sorry for Cloud, as he is bullied and demeaned in every scene that he is in. Julia shoots a marble at his eye for no other reason than he was asleep before class, Reno snaps at him when he was trying to defuse a tense situation, sneakily cuts off so much of his hair that Cloud is left with a bald spot and leaves the cafeteria crying, and when Cloud is forced to join the military, Reno mocks his name, calls him an idiot and pulls the keycard that had somehow gotten stuck between his teeth so hard that it leaves a large gap. Nothing Cloud ever did or say invited such callous treatment. Cloud is openly hated by both the characters and the author, who obviously did not intend for him to appear as anything but pathetic.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: It's hard not to feel sorry for Cloud, as he is bullied and demeaned in every scene that he is in. Julia shoots a marble at his eye for no other reason than he was asleep before class, Reno snaps at him when he was trying to defuse a tense situation, sneakily cuts off so much of his hair that Cloud is left with a bald spot and leaves the cafeteria crying, and when Cloud is forced to join the military, Reno mocks his name, calls him an idiot and pulls the keycard that Cloud had somehow gotten stuck between his teeth so hard that it leaves a large gap. Nothing Cloud ever did or say said invited such callous treatment. Cloud is openly hated by both the characters and the author, who obviously did not intend for him to appear as anything but pathetic.
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** Despite being nice and friendly, Aerith Gainsborough receives the same treatment from the other characters and the author. She is bullied twice by Reno by having ink splashed all over her, one at school and the other time during homecoming and has other characters call her ugly and be exasperated with her for no discernable reason at all. In fact, when Rude finds out that she'll be in a play, he says he won't waste money to see it. Their negative attitudes are never explained through anything but the author's own virulent dislike of her.

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** Despite being nice and friendly, Aerith Gainsborough receives the same treatment from the other characters and the author. She is bullied twice by Reno by having ink splashed all over her, one time at school and the other time during homecoming and has other characters call her ugly and be exasperated with her for no discernable reason at all. In fact, when Rude finds out that she'll be in a play, he says he won't waste money to see it. Their negative attitudes are never explained through anything but the author's own virulent dislike of her.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: It's hard not to feel sorry for Cloud, as he is bullied and demeaned in every scene that he is in. Julia shoots a marble at his eye for no other reason than he was asleep before class, Reno snaps at him when he was trying to defuse a tense situation, sneakily cuts off so much of his hair that Cloud is left with a bald spot and leaves the cafeteria crying, and when Cliud is forced to join the military, Reno mocks his name, calls him an idiot and pulls the keycard that had somehow gotten stuck between his teeth so hard that it leaves a large gap. Nothing Cloud ever did or say invited such callous treatment. Cloud is openly hated by both the characters and the author, who obviously did not intend for him to appear as anything but pathetic.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: It's hard not to feel sorry for Cloud, as he is bullied and demeaned in every scene that he is in. Julia shoots a marble at his eye for no other reason than he was asleep before class, Reno snaps at him when he was trying to defuse a tense situation, sneakily cuts off so much of his hair that Cloud is left with a bald spot and leaves the cafeteria crying, and when Cliud Cloud is forced to join the military, Reno mocks his name, calls him an idiot and pulls the keycard that had somehow gotten stuck between his teeth so hard that it leaves a large gap. Nothing Cloud ever did or say invited such callous treatment. Cloud is openly hated by both the characters and the author, who obviously did not intend for him to appear as anything but pathetic.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: It's hard not to feel sorry for Cloud, as he is bullied and demeaned in every scene that he is in. Julia shoots a marble at his eye for no other reason than he was asleep before class, Reno snaps at him when he was trying to defuse a tense situation, sneakily cuts off so much of his hair that Cloud is left with a bald spot and leaves the cafeteria crying, and when Cliud is forced to join the military, Reno mocks his name, calls him an idiot and pulls the keycard that had somehow gotten stuck between his teeth so hard that it leaves a large gap. Nothing Cloud ever did or say invited such callous treatment. Cloud is openly hated by both the characters and the author, who obviously did not intend for him to appear as anything but pathetic.
** Despite being nice and friendly, Aerith Gainsborough receives the same treatment from the other characters and the author. She is bullied twice by Reno by having ink splashed all over her, one at school and the other time during homecoming and has other characters call her ugly and be exasperated with her for no discernable reason at all. In fact, when Rude finds out that she'll be in a play, he says he won't waste money to see it. Their negative attitudes are never explained through anything but the author's own virulent dislike of her.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Julia and Sephiroth.
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* NightmareFuel: Julia's cold blooded torture of her female opponents is quite chilling to read. Perhaps even more disturbing is Sephiroth's complete agreement with her heinous acts and their shared perspective that torturing someone and leaving her to bleed to death is nothing more than payback for her breaking Julia's sword.

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* NightmareFuel: Julia's cold blooded torture of her female opponents is quite chilling to read. Perhaps even more disturbing is Sephiroth's complete agreement with her heinous acts and their shared perspective that torturing someone and leaving her to bleed to death is nothing more than payback for her [[DisproportionateRetribution breaking Julia's sword.]]
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* NightmareFuel: Julia's cold blooded torture of her female opponents is quite chilling to read. Perhaps even more disturbing is Sephiroth's complete agreement with her heinous acts and their shared perspective that torturing someone and leaving her to bleed to death is nothing more than payback for her breaking Julia's sword.
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** Julia staying with her abusive biological family (two unenhanced, normal humans), even though she was apparently very skilled at combat (having taught basic combat to ''herself'') and possessing several materia such as Bolt and ChocoMog, which she's had since she was six, meaning that she was an experienced caster. There is no reason why someone like her wouldn't just run away and try to make it back to her foster family in Mideel, where Tseng would have helped her hide in case her biological family came back looking for her.
** Julia and Sephiroth's double rape under Jenova's influence could have been averted if Julia had been smart enough to not enter Sephiroth's tent and instead send someone like Korokou to check up on him. Rather than do that, she enters his tent against his specific warnings and knowing that Jenova could take control of him and make him hurt her.
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* TheWoobie: Sephirothslave ''tries'' to invoke this with both Sephiroth and Julia, but they are so incredibly unsympathetic and the writing is so bad that instead of making readers pity them, it ends up looking like the characters either deserved their punishment or were stupid enough to get themselves into the situation that led to it.
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** Tseng saying that "Suicides are no one's fault but the one who died."

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** Tseng saying that "Suicides "suicides are no one's fault but the one who died." died" when trying to assure Sephiroth that he was not responsible for Laura killing herself. Made worse by the fact that Tseng (a teacher and a character portrayed by the author in a positive light) knows nothing about the circumstances of the girl's death.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Julia claims that her (abusive) biological father drove her gothic, which suggests that being Goth is a consequence of abuse.
** Tseng saying that "Suicides are no one's fault but the one who died."
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*** Worse yet, [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness he never does any power squats!]]
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Sephiroth, Julia and Reno launch fireworks and Molotov cocktails onto a football field, injuring both teams, the spectators and damaging the premises. The way in which this is written is reminiscent of a school shooting.
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** Arguably, the entire series - and the Jenova Possession Theory in general - is to defend Sephiroth, stating that it was not his fault that he went crazy and tried to destroy the world. However, it fails this, by painting Sephiroth as psychopathic, mentally unstable, emotionally dependent on Julia, and outright vindictive and cruel. So instead of having a good man, who [[GoMadFromTheRevelation snapped under the truth,]] we have a jerk who wasn't responsible for trying to destroy the world, but willingly commits torture, genocide, and other equally abhorrent crimes.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Despite both of them earning a lot of money, Sephiroth and Julia chose to live for ''five years'' with the insane, abusive professor Hojo instead of moving out and finding a place of their own.
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* SnarkBait: Irresistible.
* {{Squick}}: A young Julia (aged around 11-14) is raped by her father as punishment for refusing to have sex with a client, with her mother watching from the treshold. Made much worse by the fact that Julia is an AuthorAvatar and the evil parents are named after the author's own parents.
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* CanonDefilement: Of staggering proportions.


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* NightmareRetardant: Jenova taking over Sephiroth's body and raping Julia and the few other scenes connected to the event are this. Not helped by the fact that Julia gets over the rape in two days and continues as if nothing happened.
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* MarySue: Julia in spades monstrous her avatar is, and the text clearly puts Julia in a positive light. We are supposed to sympathize with her.

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* MarySue: Julia Julia, in spades spades. Despite how monstrous her avatar she is, and the text clearly puts Julia in a positive light. We light and we are supposed to sympathize with her.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything?: Sephiroth, Julia and Reno launch fireworks and Molotov cocktails onto a football field, injuring both teams, the spectators and damaging the premises. The way in which this is written is reminiscent of a school shooting.

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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything?: DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Sephiroth, Julia and Reno launch fireworks and Molotov cocktails onto a football field, injuring both teams, the spectators and damaging the premises. The way in which this is written is reminiscent of a school shooting.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything?: Sephiroth, Julia and Reno launch fireworks and Molotov cocktails onto a football field, injuring both teams, the spectators and damaging the premises. The way in which this is written is reminiscent of a school shooting.
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* BileFascination: Both stories have a special brand of awful which keeps readers glued to them.
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* RonTheDeathEater: So much. Virtually any hero of the story gets trashed for being opposition to Sephiroth. Primarily we have
** [[IdiotBall Cloud The Idiot:]] When she actually manages to lock down a personality for Cloud it's a pathetic, wimpy coward who manages to lose his ID card by getting it stuck between his teeth.
** [[VillainBall Zack The Mysoginist:]] Zack gets turned into a violent, petty, and sexist asshole, who delights in torturing Sephiroth and Julia in anyway he can.
** [[ClassClown Reno The Prankster:]] Depending on whether she likes Reno at the moment, Reno is a clumsy, lazy, idiot who is failing every class, and is known for deadly pranks.
** [[BigBad Hojo The Sadist:]] Hojo goes from an ambitious, amoral scientist to a violent psychopath who delights in torturing anybody he can.
** [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Aerith the Friendly Helpful Cheerleader:]] Special recognition goes to Aerith, who is actually portrayed relatively close to canon. The few scenes she gets she's optimistic, smiling, friendly and helpful. For some reason, everybody hates her, and the audience is supposed to understand why.

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The author seems to be unaware of just how deeply unsympathetic and monstrous her avatar is, and the text clearly puts Julia in a positive light. We are supposed to sympathize with her and we are not supposed to see her as having those flaws..


* MarySue: Julia in spades
** AntiSue: Julia has a lot of flaws designed to deny being a sue.

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* MarySue: Julia in spades
** AntiSue:
spades monstrous her avatar is, and the text clearly puts Julia has in a lot of flaws designed positive light. We are supposed to deny being a sue.sympathize with her.
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* CompleteMonster: The antagonists Hojo and Jenova and unintentionally, the protagonists, Julia and Sephiroth.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Sephiroth of course. Bonus points for being a character who canonically wears leather pants. The entire story is focused on how wonderful a boy friend he is, even though he's a rather lousy one, and defending his actions in the game.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Sephiroth of course. Bonus points for being a character who canonically wears leather pants. The entire story is focused on how wonderful a boy friend boyfriend he is, even though he's a rather lousy one, and defending his actions in the game.



* FanFicChopSuey: Both Julia and Sephiroth likes many things that Sephiroth Slave likes, including some books and manga from our world.

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* FanFicChopSuey: Both Julia and Sephiroth likes like many things that Sephiroth Slave Sephirothslave likes, including some books and manga from our world.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Julia's tragic past or present will be instantly forgotten whenever the plot needs to advance.
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The series runs on it. In addition to the entries under DracoInLeatherPants and RonTheDeathEater, the entire series was written to defend the concept of the Jenova Possession Theory.
* DesignatedHero: Julia and Sephiroth perform outright atrocities and even genocide, yet they are invariably considered the heroes.
* DracoInLeatherPants: Sephiroth of course. Bonus points for being a character who canonically wears leather pants. The entire story is focused on how wonderful a boy friend he is, even though he's a rather lousy one, and defending his actions in the game.
** Tseng also gets this, but to a lesser degree.
* FanFicChopSuey: Both Julia and Sephiroth likes many things that Sephiroth Slave likes, including some books and manga from our world.
* MarySue: Julia in spades
** AntiSue: Julia has a lot of flaws designed to deny being a sue.
** BlackHoleSue: Everybody obsesses over Julia. Probably the biggest example is Yuffie, who allegedly is Sephiroth's closest friend, obsessing about how much Sephiroth should be with Julia instead of with Laura, despite him being perfectly happy in their relationship.
** GodModeSue: Julia has some of the most powerful magic in the world, and is physically able to keep up with super-human Sephiroth, surpassing everybody else in her class. No explanation on where she got these powers.
** JerkSue: The number of people Julia is nice to can be counted on one hand. At one point she says she has no problems killing people, and this is treated as a virtue.
** MaryTzu: Julia allegedly is a tactical genius. So is Sephiroth.
** RelationshipSue: With Sephiroth, obviously.
** SympatheticSue: Has tons of drama so that we're supposed to feel sorry for her.
* {{Wangst}}: Julia will go into full on depression when the story is lacking drama. Often on things that happened years ago.

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