History YMMV / ShinjiAndWarhammer40k

27th May '16 12:22:51 PM Angeldeb82
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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music Of Awesome]]: Moments after Shinji proclaims, at the end of chapter one, that he will pilot the Evangelion for the first time, the author tells the reader to cue the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmtBzI3M4yM&feature=related theme]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvZygBUCcc0&fmt=18 song]] to ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''... If one continues to do this at the end of each succeeding chapter, the effect might soon [[ManlyTears become overwhelming]].

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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music Of of Awesome]]: Moments after Shinji proclaims, at the end of chapter one, that he will pilot the Evangelion for the first time, the author tells the reader to cue the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmtBzI3M4yM&feature=related theme]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvZygBUCcc0&fmt=18 song]] to ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''... If one continues to do this at the end of each succeeding chapter, the effect might soon [[ManlyTears become overwhelming]].



* FridgeLogic - Invoken by [=Bpen=], in one of the author notes: How exactly does ''[[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya]]'' still exist in a world where the ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' anime was never made and thus (for example) the EmotionlessGirl trope would never have been established? Not to mention that it would've been written ''[[InSpiteOfANail after Second Impact]]''.
* GodModeSue: Bpen's made it clear that he's trying to avoid this; thus, while Shinji has additional powers (and more importantly, a backbone), he is still beatable, makes plenty of mistakes, and finds romance difficult. More importantly, of all the other {{Chessmaster}}s in the story, he's the only who does '''not''' want to ''become'' a god, and is growing more and more disenchanted with his power. Whether or not Bpen's succeeded (and [[TropesAreNotBad whether or not it really matters]]) is up to the reader.
** Subverted at least a couple of times, such as the transition into the Javaal arc. Shinji has somehow gained the ability to psychically manufacture antimatter as a weapon, the power to crack the planet if he wanted to, and near invulnerable toughness... but since this outward expression of power keeps him from synching with his Eva, he spends the entire arc trying to ''get rid'' of it.

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* FridgeLogic - Invoken FauxSymbolism: This shows up a ''lot'':
** To Shinji's great annoyance, Asuka points out the obvious religious imagery when he begins teaching her how to do AT-field weirdness by walking on the surface of a swimming pool.
** Shinji tries to convince himself that many of the symbols from ''Warhammer 40K'' he sees were just based off random things Games Workshop picked out becaused they looked cool, and him repeatedly running into them is mere coincidence. Doesn't quite work for the skull throne, though.
** As if NNHIS's name sounding like "IN HIS" wasn't blatant enough, all their products get the designation "experiment #X, IN HIS NAME the Y". Asuka thinks it sounds like they're cult members. Really, they're doing it to tick Gendo off... [[MessiahCreep at first]].
** According to Lama Feckeldraft, Asuka is supposed to be Thor. Or something. This has the effect of making Angels into ''Giants'' and Kaworu into '''Loki'''. What did Shinji lose in his first combat with an Angel? An ''eye''. What is it that the Imperial aquila lacks? An eye. This makes Mana, who lost her left arm, '''Tyr'''. And the Trident (T-Raiden-T) has been bastardized into a ''Werwulf''. 'Leavings of the wolf', indeed.
*** "Achtung! Jotunn Morderkopf!"? Isn't that around the lines of "Giant Slayer"?
*** "Ahem": Didn't Odin (Shinji) also have two ravens named Huginn and Muninn (a.k.a. '''J'''iro and '''K'''entaro) that brought him information and acted as his "eyes"?
*** Thus it looks like that the pseudo-Jewish theology of Evangelion is replaced with Myth/NorseMythology through the help of Warhammer 40k.
* FridgeLogic: Invoked
by [=Bpen=], in one of the author notes: How exactly does ''[[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya]]'' still exist in a world where the ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' anime was never made and thus (for example) the EmotionlessGirl trope would never have been established? Not to mention that it would've been written ''[[InSpiteOfANail after Second Impact]]''.
* GodModeSue: Bpen's made it clear that he's trying to avoid this; thus, while Shinji has additional powers (and more importantly, a backbone), he is still beatable, makes plenty of mistakes, and finds romance difficult. More importantly, of all the other {{Chessmaster}}s in the story, he's the only who does '''not''' want to ''become'' a god, and is growing more and more disenchanted with his power. Whether or not Bpen's succeeded (and [[TropesAreNotBad whether or not it really matters]]) is up to the reader.
** Subverted at least a couple of times, such as the transition into the Javaal arc. Shinji has somehow gained the ability to psychically manufacture antimatter as a weapon, the power to crack the planet if he wanted to, and near invulnerable toughness... but since this outward expression of power keeps him from synching with his Eva, he spends the entire arc trying to ''get rid'' of it.
Impact]]''.



* LesYay:
** ''The End of Evangelion'' indicated that Maya was in love with Ritsuko, when [[spoiler:Ritsuko's image makes her drop her AT-field]]. This series takes it UpToEleven... or should we say... ''[[IncrediblyLamePun 40,000]]''.

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* LesYay:
[[HoYay Les Yay]]:
** ''The End of Evangelion'' indicated that Maya was in love with Ritsuko, when [[spoiler:Ritsuko's image makes her drop her AT-field]]. This series takes it UpToEleven... or should we say... ''[[IncrediblyLamePun ''[[JustForPun 40,000]]''.



* ThirtySuePileup: A strange case in that the pileup is contained in Shinji, who embodies a ''lot'' of different Sue sub-types. Because of this, some see this fic as one of the crowning examples of why TropesAreNotBad, while others find the fic intolerable because of this.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic - This shows up a ''lot'':
** To Shinji's great annoyance, Asuka points out the obvious religious imagery when he begins teaching her how to do AT-field weirdness by walking on the surface of a swimming pool.
** Shinji tries to convince himself that many of the symbols from ''Warhammer 40K'' he sees were just based off random things Games Workshop picked out becaused they looked cool, and him repeatedly running into them is mere coincidence. Doesn't quite work for the skull throne, though.
** As if NNHIS's name sounding like "IN HIS" wasn't blatant enough, all their products get the designation "experiment #X, IN HIS NAME the Y". Asuka thinks it sounds like they're cult members. Really, they're doing it to tick Gendo off... [[MessiahCreep at first]].
** According to Lama Feckeldraft, Asuka is supposed to be Thor. Or something. This has the effect of making Angels into ''Giants'' and Kaworu into '''Loki'''. What did Shinji lose in his first combat with an Angel? An ''eye''. What is it that the Imperial aquila lacks? An eye. This makes Mana, who lost her left arm, '''Tyr'''. And the Trident (T-Raiden-T) has been bastardized into a ''Werwulf''. 'Leavings of the wolf', indeed.
*** "Achtung! Jotunn Morderkopf!"? Isn't that around the lines of "Giant Slayer"?
*** "Ahem": Didn't Odin (Shinji) also have two ravens named Huginn and Muninn (a.k.a. '''J'''iro and '''K'''entaro) that brought him information and acted as his "eyes"?
*** Thus it looks like that the pseudo-Jewish theology of Evangelion is replaced with Myth/NorseMythology through the help of Warhammer 40k.
8th May '16 7:56:42 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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** The fic starts out pretty placid, with just a few moments of awesome and a bit of crazy in the prologue, then steadily increases both. By ch. 19, when canon!Eva has pretty much been left by the wayside, there's so much of ''both'' that it rivals ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' at times.

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** The fic starts out pretty placid, with just a few moments of awesome and a bit of crazy in the prologue, then steadily increases both. By ch. 19, when canon!Eva has pretty much been left by the wayside, there's so much of ''both'' that it rivals ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' at times.
2nd Nov '15 1:12:29 PM MachRider1985
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BetterThanItSounds: A young boy finds a box full of wargame miniatures and starts talking to them. They start talking back. Then he gets a giant robot. And Psychic Powers. ''Then'' the weird stuff starts.

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* BetterThanItSounds: A young boy finds a box full of wargame miniatures and starts talking to them. They start talking back. Then he gets a giant robot. And Psychic Powers. ''Then'' the weird stuff starts.
2nd Nov '15 1:12:07 PM MachRider1985
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BetterThanItSounds: A young boy finds a box full of wargame miniatures and starts talking to them. They start talking back. Then he gets a giant robot. And Psychic Powers. ''Then'' the weird stuff starts.
23rd Sep '15 4:20:22 PM nombretomado
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*** Thus it looks like that the pseudo-Jewish theology of Evangelion is replaced with Main/NorseMythology through the help of Warhammer 40k.

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*** Thus it looks like that the pseudo-Jewish theology of Evangelion is replaced with Main/NorseMythology Myth/NorseMythology through the help of Warhammer 40k.
22nd Sep '15 6:04:29 AM Noelemahc
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** There are several chapters built around weaving specific meme-laden dialogue into the story, be it the entirety of the AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs intro text, the lyrics to All Along the Watchtower or multiple instances of [[Franchise/Castlevania What Is A Man, A Miserable Pile Of Secrets]].

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** There are several chapters built around weaving specific meme-laden dialogue into the story, be it the entirety of the AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs intro text, the lyrics to All Along the Watchtower or multiple instances of [[Franchise/Castlevania [[Franchise/{{Castlevania}} What Is A Man, A Miserable Pile Of Secrets]].
22nd Sep '15 6:01:56 AM Noelemahc
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* HilariousInHindsight: This fic uses the same reasoning for Gendou's behaviour towards Shinji and NERV's ultimate goals as in the [[Manga/NeonGenesisEvangelionCampusApocalypse Campus Apocalypse]] HighSchoolAU manga. The Rei/Asuka dynamic is also near-identical.


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*** Asuka's attitude towards Rei V seems to indicate the reverse was also true.
*** Mana gets as much {{Nosebleed}}s from watching Rei and Asuka interact as from being held by Shinji.


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** To sum up: all of "Shinji's girls" seem to be quite willing to share him (and each other) with each other the more the series progresses, though it's most focused on the pilots. The only outsider here is Mayumi, she's single-targeted on Asuka.


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** There are several chapters built around weaving specific meme-laden dialogue into the story, be it the entirety of the AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs intro text, the lyrics to All Along the Watchtower or multiple instances of [[Franchise/Castlevania What Is A Man, A Miserable Pile Of Secrets]].
15th Sep '15 2:17:25 AM memememememe
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*** Thus it looks like that the pseudo-Jewish theology of Evangelion is replaced with Main/NorseMythology through the help of Warhammer 40k.
16th Jun '15 1:27:10 AM Anicomicgeek
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: The Government bureaucrats in episode 22 are portrayed like idiots concerned about their position and afraid of losing power and influence if people does not obey them. However their concerns were not reasonable: give weapons to a teenager and allow him hoard them is a recipe for a disaster, moreover if he keeps them in his school.
16th Jun '15 1:25:56 AM Anicomicgeek
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* StopHavingFunGuys
** Averted with Admiral Yang, who used to play a D&D campaign with his military advisors, and with Rei, as she basically discovers the concept of fun when Shinji gives her a copy of the Ork codex, as well as [[spoiler:finding the time to write a movie]].
** Played straight with Shinji, who realizes that this isn't one of his games or flights of fancy, and tends to take everything dead seriously.
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