History YMMV / Seinfeld

7th Feb '16 1:52:44 PM AdamC
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*** Jerry in particular is adamant that Superman ''must'' have a great sense of humor (possibly a case of childish projection, being he's a comedian and Superman's his hero). After ''Film/ManOfSteel'' came out, the real Jerry Seinfeld criticized it for taking out the human elements of the character and making him too action-focused and humorless.
29th Jan '16 7:03:34 AM case
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** To a lesser extent, The Betrayal. Fans either like the backwards narrative, or hate it (which is silly, considering that there is a version of the episode with a non-reverse narrative).
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** To a lesser extent, the original version The Betrayal. Fans either like the backwards narrative, or hate it (which it. There is silly, considering that there is a another version of that puts the episode with a non-reverse narrative). events in order, however.
3rd Jan '16 5:11:51 AM maxwellsilver
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment / HarsherInHindsight, ** In the episode "The Fire," George Costanza overreacts to burning food in the kitchen during a birthday party, and then flees by shoving over, among others, an old lady in a walker and a birthday clown to flee out of the door, earning him the wrath of several birthday attendees. It becomes significantly more uncomfortable to watch after similar behavior was witnessed on-board the Costa Concordia when it capsized and sank.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment / HarsherInHindsight, ** In the episode "The Fire," George Costanza overreacts to burning food in the kitchen during a birthday party, and then flees by shoving over, among others, an old lady in a walker and a birthday clown to flee out of the door, earning him the wrath of several birthday attendees. It becomes significantly more uncomfortable to watch after similar behavior was witnessed on-board the Costa Concordia when it capsized and sank.FunnyAneurysmMoment:

** The BannedEpisode "The Puerto Rican Day". Here he accidentally sets fire to the Puerto Rican flag and comments that riots are common in Puerto Rican neighborhoods. This one is worse thanks to Michael Richards' racist outbursts at The Laugh Factory. ** In "The Face Painter," Kramer tried to apologize to a chimp for throwing a banana peel at him, only for the chimp to spit water on his face. Shortly after the Laugh Factory incident, Michael Richards tried to apologize on ''[[Creator/DavidLetterman Late Show with David Letterman]]'' for his racist outbursts, only for the audience to laugh at him. The Letterman example was fascinating to watch, since it was that rare moment where truly nobody seemed sure what was going to happen.
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** The BannedEpisode "The Puerto Rican Day". Here he accidentally sets fire to the Puerto Rican flag and comments that riots are common in Puerto Rican neighborhoods. This one is worse thanks to Michael Richards' racist outbursts at The Laugh Factory. ** In "The Face Painter," Kramer tried to apologize to a chimp for throwing a banana peel at him, only for the chimp to spit water on his face. Shortly after the Laugh Factory incident, Michael Richards tried to apologize on ''[[Creator/DavidLetterman Late ''Late Show with David Letterman]]'' Creator/DavidLetterman'' for his racist outbursts, only for the audience to laugh at him. The Letterman example was fascinating to watch, since it was that rare moment where truly nobody seemed sure what was going to happen.

** In "The Blood," Kellie Waymire plays a friend of Elaine's who is seriously ill and wants Elaine to take in her son if she dies. Waymire had already been diagnosed with heart trouble, and died five years later.

** At the end of "The Millenium," Mrs. Hamilton is seriously ill and can't call for help because [[LoveMakesYouCrazy she hid Jerry's number under her poison control button]]. Her actress Louan Gideon died of breast cancer.

** Jerry revealing himself as a comedian to George's girlfriend [[ItMakesSenseInContext in the middle of a depressed facade]] in "The Visa" is PlayedForLaughs because of how implausible it sounded at the time for a depressed person to have such a job. Nowadays, especially after Robin Williams's suicide, it is common knowledge that a fairly large amount of comedians do in fact struggle with depression and turn to comedy as a sort of coping mechanism.
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** Jerry revealing himself as a comedian to George's girlfriend [[ItMakesSenseInContext in the middle of a depressed facade]] facade in "The Visa" is PlayedForLaughs because of how implausible it sounded at the time for a depressed person to have such a job. Nowadays, especially after Robin Williams's Creator/RobinWilliams's suicide, it is common knowledge that a fairly large amount of comedians do in fact struggle with depression and turn to comedy as a sort of coping mechanism.

* HarsherInHindsight: ** Jerry revealing himself as a comedian The BannedEpisode "The Puerto Rican Day". Here he accidentally sets fire to George's girlfriend [[ItMakesSenseInContext the Puerto Rican flag and comments that riots are common in Puerto Rican neighborhoods. This one is worse thanks to Michael Richards' racist outbursts at The Laugh Factory. ** In the episode "The Fire," George Costanza overreacts to burning food in the middle kitchen during a birthday party, and then flees by shoving over, among others, an old lady in a walker and a birthday clown to flee out of a depressed facade]] in the door, earning him the wrath of several birthday attendees. It becomes significantly more uncomfortable to watch after similar behavior was witnessed on-board the Costa Concordia when it capsized and sank. ** In "The Visa" Blood," Kellie Waymire plays a friend of Elaine's who is PlayedForLaughs seriously ill and wants Elaine to take in her son if she dies. Waymire had already been diagnosed with heart trouble, and died five years later. ** At the end of "The Millenium," Mrs. Hamilton is seriously ill and can't call for help because [[LoveMakesYouCrazy she hid Jerry's number under her poison control button]]. Her actress Louan Gideon died of how implausible it sounded at the time for a depressed person to have such a job. Nowadays, especially after Robin Williams's suicide, it is common knowledge that a fairly large amount of comedians do in fact struggle with depression and turn to comedy as a sort of coping mechanism.breast cancer.

* {{Misblamed}}: In the finale Babu's story of how Jerry ruined his life is treated InUniverse as a MoralEventHorizon by the jury and seals the group's fate. The irony being that it's one of the few things that ''wasn't'' Jerry's fault. Babu failed at running a restaurant because he was a poor businessman and he got deported because the mailman was incompetent.
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* {{Misblamed}}: In the finale Babu's story of how Jerry ruined his life is treated InUniverse as a MoralEventHorizon by the jury and seals the group's fate. The irony being that it's one of the few things that ''wasn't'' Jerry's fault. Babu failed at running a restaurant because he was a poor businessman and he got deported because the mailman was incompetent. Plus Babu apparently never even tried to get replacement visa renewal papers.
3rd Jan '16 5:04:54 AM maxwellsilver
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* {{Misblamed}}: InUniverse, in the finale Babu's story of how Jerry ruined his life is treated as a MoralEventHorizon by the jury and seals the group's fate. The irony being that it's one of the few things that ''wasn't'' Jerry's fault. Babu failed at running a restaurant because he was a poor businessman and he got deported because the mailman was incompetent.
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* {{Misblamed}}: InUniverse, in In the finale Babu's story of how Jerry ruined his life is treated InUniverse as a MoralEventHorizon by the jury and seals the group's fate. The irony being that it's one of the few things that ''wasn't'' Jerry's fault. Babu failed at running a restaurant because he was a poor businessman and he got deported because the mailman was incompetent.
1st Jan '16 10:45:54 PM maxwellsilver
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* {{Misblamed}}: InUniverse, in the finale Babu's story of how Jerry ruined his life is a MoralEventHorizon to jury and seals the group's fate. The irony being that it's one of the few things that ''wasn't'' Jerry's fault. Babu failed at running a restaurant because he was a poor businessman and he got deported because the mailman was incompetent.
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* {{Misblamed}}: InUniverse, in the finale Babu's story of how Jerry ruined his life is treated as a MoralEventHorizon to by the jury and seals the group's fate. The irony being that it's one of the few things that ''wasn't'' Jerry's fault. Babu failed at running a restaurant because he was a poor businessman and he got deported because the mailman was incompetent.
1st Jan '16 10:43:24 PM maxwellsilver
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** George's unexplained hatred over Ted Danson is even more hilarious now considering that in ''Series/CurbYourEnthusiasm'', Larry David (whom George was largely based on) is "friends", but often gets in fights with, Ted Danson.
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** George's unexplained hatred over Ted Danson is even more hilarious now considering that in ''Series/CurbYourEnthusiasm'', Larry David (whom George was largely based on) is his "friends", but often gets in fights with, Ted Danson.

** In the episode "The Seven", George tries to convince everyone that 'Seven' would be the perfect name for a baby girl. Fast forward to Jason Alexander's guest appearence on ''StarTrekVoyager'' as an alien Think Tank member who tries to recruit the character Seven of Nine, often nicknamed 'Seven'.
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** In the episode "The Seven", George tries to convince everyone that 'Seven' would be the perfect name for a baby girl. Fast forward to Jason Alexander's guest appearence appearance on ''StarTrekVoyager'' ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' as an alien Think Tank member who tries to recruit the character Seven of Nine, often nicknamed 'Seven'.

* MoralEventHorizon: InUniverse, in the finale Babu's story of how Jerry ruined his life is one to jury and seals the group's fate. The irony being that it's one of the few things that ''wasn't'' Jerry's fault. Babu failed at running a restaurant because he was a poor businessman and he got deported because the mailman was incompetent. * NightmareFuel: It's PlayedForLaughs, but Peterman's Colonel-Kurtz-inspired madness in "The Chicken Roaster" still comes off as a bit unsettling. Especially if you watch it before you've seen ''ApocalypseNow'' [[TheWeirdAlEffect and don't realize it's a reference to anything.]] * NoYay: Season 2 ended with it looking like Elaine and Jerry might wind up being a couple. This was a point of contention between the network (who wanted them together) and Larry David (who didn't). Between seasons Jerry toured with his stand-up act and asked the audience what they thought of the pair finally getting together; the overwhelming negative response to the idea from the crowd sealed the deal and by season 3 they'd gone back to being friends.
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* MoralEventHorizon: {{Misblamed}}: InUniverse, in the finale Babu's story of how Jerry ruined his life is one a MoralEventHorizon to jury and seals the group's fate. The irony being that it's one of the few things that ''wasn't'' Jerry's fault. Babu failed at running a restaurant because he was a poor businessman and he got deported because the mailman was incompetent. * NightmareFuel: It's PlayedForLaughs, but Peterman's Colonel-Kurtz-inspired madness in "The Chicken Roaster" still comes off as a bit unsettling. Especially if you watch it before you've seen ''ApocalypseNow'' ''Film/ApocalypseNow'' [[TheWeirdAlEffect and don't realize it's a reference to anything.]] * NoYay: Season 2 ended with it looking like Elaine and Jerry might wind up being a couple. This was a point of contention between the network (who wanted them together) and Larry David (who didn't). Between seasons Jerry toured with his stand-up standup act and asked the audience what they thought of the pair finally getting together; the overwhelming negative response to the idea from the crowd sealed the deal and by season 3 they'd gone back to being friends.
1st Jan '16 10:32:13 PM maxwellsilver
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Moving Trivia examples to the Trivia page.
* TheOtherDarrin: Frank Costanza was originally portrayed by actor John Randolph in his debut appearance "The Handicap Spot," who looks very different from Jerry Stiller. Randolph's role was refilmed with Stiller for U.S. syndication, but the original version with Randolph still appears on international TV and the season 4 DVD set (and, as of 2015, Hulu).

** As far as the show itself goes, CourteneyCox appears as Jerry's girlfriend (and fake wife) in "The Wife", [[Series/LoisAndClark Teri]] [[Series/DesperateHousewives Hatcher]] is Jerry's amply-endowed girlfriend in "The Implant", [[TheSarahConnorChronicles Thomas Dekker]] is a child actor working with Kramer in "The Stand-In", JonFavreau is a birthday party clown in "The Fire", and Creator/SarahSilverman is Kramer's Jimmy-legged girlfriend in "The Money".
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** As far as the show itself goes, CourteneyCox Creator/CourteneyCox appears as Jerry's girlfriend (and fake wife) in "The Wife", [[Series/LoisAndClark Teri]] [[Series/DesperateHousewives Hatcher]] is Jerry's amply-endowed girlfriend in "The Implant", [[TheSarahConnorChronicles [[Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles Thomas Dekker]] is a child actor working with Kramer in "The Stand-In", JonFavreau Creator/JonFavreau is a birthday party clown in "The Fire", and Creator/SarahSilverman is Kramer's Jimmy-legged girlfriend in "The Money".
30th Nov '15 8:02:16 PM Demetrios
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** An in-story example: Jerry, George, and Kramer start jumping for joy when "The murderer struck again!", thereby automatically clearing Kramer's name... until they see a grieving couple walking by.
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** An in-story example: Jerry, George, and Kramer start jumping for joy when "The murderer struck again!", thereby automatically clearing Kramer's name... until name. They immediately stop when they see a grieving couple walking by.
30th Nov '15 9:56:33 AM speedyboris
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* VindicatedByHistory: The DenserAndWackier Seasons 8 and 9 are much more popular with twenty-somethings today. It helps that both seasons were a FountainOfMemes in a show already known as the motherlode of pre-Internet MemeticMutation.

* VindicatedByHistory: The DenserAndWackier Seasons 8 and 9 are much more popular with twenty-somethings today. It helps that both seasons were a FountainOfMemes in a show already known as the motherlode of pre-Internet MemeticMutation.
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* VindicatedByHistory: The DenserAndWackier Seasons 8 and 9 are much more popular with twenty-somethings today. It helps that both seasons were a FountainOfMemes WhatAnIdiot: Mickey in a show already known "The Wait Out". He's pretending to be Joey in bed, as the motherlode of pre-Internet MemeticMutation.real Joey is on the street being chased by Kramer. Joey's mom comes in and sees what she thinks is Joey's body under the covers, and says "Good night, honey." Just as she's about to leave, Mickey (sounding decidedly unlike a little boy) gruffly says "Good night." He couldn't just keep pretending to be asleep? --> ''(Joey's mom is heard screaming from down the hall)''\\ '''Jerry''': [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight It's gotta have something to do with Kramer.]]
27th Nov '15 3:56:54 PM nombretomado
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Michael Richards were on sketch shows before they were on this show. Louis-Dreyfus was on ''SaturdayNightLive'' from 1982 to 1985 while Michael Richards was on ''Fridays''[[note]]ABC's AlternateCompanyEquivalent of ''SNL''[[/note]] from 1980 to 1982 (show creator Larry David was also a ''Fridays'' cast member and the final episode had some former cast members, like Melanie Chartoff, Bruce Mahler, and Mark Blankfield), so if you watch either of these shows, you'll be surprised to learn that Elaine and Kramer did sketch comedy.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Michael Richards were on sketch shows before they were on this show. Louis-Dreyfus was on ''SaturdayNightLive'' ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' from 1982 to 1985 while Michael Richards was on ''Fridays''[[note]]ABC's AlternateCompanyEquivalent of ''SNL''[[/note]] from 1980 to 1982 (show creator Larry David was also a ''Fridays'' cast member and the final episode had some former cast members, like Melanie Chartoff, Bruce Mahler, and Mark Blankfield), so if you watch either of these shows, you'll be surprised to learn that Elaine and Kramer did sketch comedy.
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