History YMMV / Seinfeld

15th Jul '16 5:51:52 PM maxwellsilver
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** Especially in regards to how his relationship with Susan's parents soured. As a matter of fact, in one part of the series finale, Mr. Ross was shown buying a handgun. Yes, you saw that right. Susan's parents dislike George to the point of wishing death on him. [[MamaBear To be fair, though, you can't]] [[PapaWolf blame them for missing their daughter]].

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** Especially in regards to how his relationship with Susan's parents soured. As a matter of fact, in one part of the series finale, Mr. Ross was shown buying a handgun. Yes, you saw that right. Susan's parents dislike George to the point of wishing death on him. [[MamaBear To be fair, though, you can't]] [[PapaWolf can't blame them for missing their daughter]].daughter.



** In "The Secretary", George is painted in a positive light for discriminating against attractive applicants. At one point he explains to one that while she is qualified, he would not hire her based solely on her looks. He was afraid of a "SexySecretary" situation that he knew would be his own fault and didn't want to objectify her. So he deliberately hired a stereotypically nerdy-looking secretary. [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Then he ended up having]] [[YouCantFightFate sex with her anyway.]]

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** In "The Secretary", George is painted in a positive light for discriminating against attractive applicants. At one point he explains to one that while she is qualified, he would not hire her based solely on her looks. He was afraid of a "SexySecretary" situation that he knew would be his own fault and didn't want to objectify her. So he deliberately hired a stereotypically nerdy-looking secretary. [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Then he ended up having]] [[YouCantFightFate having sex with her anyway.]]



'''Jerry''': [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight It's gotta have something to do with Kramer.]]

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'''Jerry''': [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight It's gotta have something to do with Kramer.]]
15th Jul '16 5:50:27 PM maxwellsilver
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** At the end of "The Millenium," Mrs. Hamilton is seriously ill and can't call for help because [[LoveMakesYouCrazy she hid Jerry's number under her poison control button]]. Her actress Louan Gideon died of breast cancer.

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** At the end of "The Millenium," Mrs. Hamilton is seriously ill and can't call for help because [[LoveMakesYouCrazy she hid Jerry's number under her poison control button]].button. Her actress Louan Gideon died of breast cancer.



** In an often cut opening to "The Soul Mate", Jerry and George talk about [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor how it might be nice to go to prison]].

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** In an often cut opening to "The Soul Mate", Jerry and George talk about [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor how it might be nice to go to prison]].prison.



* NightmareFuel: It's PlayedForLaughs, but Peterman's Colonel-Kurtz-inspired madness in "The Chicken Roaster" still comes off as a bit unsettling. Especially if you watch it before you've seen ''Film/ApocalypseNow'' [[TheWeirdAlEffect and don't realize it's a reference to anything.]]

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* NightmareFuel: It's PlayedForLaughs, but Peterman's Colonel-Kurtz-inspired madness in "The Chicken Roaster" still comes off as a bit unsettling. Especially if you watch it before you've seen ''Film/ApocalypseNow'' [[TheWeirdAlEffect and don't realize it's a reference to anything.]]



** As far as the show itself goes, Creator/CourteneyCox appears as Jerry's girlfriend (and fake wife) in "The Wife", [[Series/LoisAndClark Teri]] [[Series/DesperateHousewives Hatcher]] is Jerry's amply-endowed girlfriend in "The Implant", [[Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles Thomas Dekker]] is a child actor working with Kramer in "The Stand-In", Creator/JonFavreau is a birthday party clown in "The Fire", and Creator/SarahSilverman is Kramer's Jimmy-legged girlfriend in "The Money".

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** As far as the show itself goes, Creator/CourteneyCox appears as Jerry's girlfriend (and fake wife) in "The Wife", [[Series/LoisAndClark Teri]] [[Series/DesperateHousewives Hatcher]] Creator/TeriHatcher is Jerry's amply-endowed girlfriend in "The Implant", [[Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles Thomas Dekker]] is a child actor working with Kramer in "The Stand-In", Creator/JonFavreau is a birthday party clown in "The Fire", and Creator/SarahSilverman is Kramer's Jimmy-legged girlfriend in "The Money".



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: TropeNamer. It's hard to believe that this was considered ''pushing the boundaries of network censorship and sitcom conventions'' back in the day, not to mention how most sitcoms today copy the show's premise of {{JerkAss}} city-dwellers getting into trouble (cf. ''Series/{{Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia}}'') or neurotic comedian does stand-up and has awkward encounters with others (''Main/{{Louie}}'').
* SpoiledByTheFormat: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] in one of Jerry's stand-up routines. Specifically, he mentions how it's easy to predict if an episode of a show will end with a "to be continued" depending on how much time is left at the climax...[[LeaningOnTheFourthWall at the end of an episode that does just that]].

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: TropeNamer. It's hard to believe that this was considered ''pushing the boundaries of network censorship and sitcom conventions'' back in the day, not to mention how most sitcoms today copy the show's premise of {{JerkAss}} city-dwellers getting into trouble (cf. ''Series/{{Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia}}'') ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'') or neurotic comedian does stand-up and has awkward encounters with others (''Main/{{Louie}}'').
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* SpoiledByTheFormat: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] Discussed in one of Jerry's stand-up routines. Specifically, he mentions how it's easy to predict if an episode of a show will end with a "to be continued" depending on how much time is left at the climax...[[LeaningOnTheFourthWall at the end of an episode that does just that]].that.
15th Jul '16 5:43:56 PM maxwellsilver
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Does Kramer have AspergersSyndrome? Even though he is unemployed and generally bumbles his way through life, he does display signs of intelligence throughout the series, particularly of the GeniusDitz / IdiotSavant variety(many of his business ideas and inventions are pretty clever). Moreover, he [[NoSocialSkills doesn't seem to understand the norms of social behavior]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} or even general human behavior]]; he [[BrutalHonesty has no sense of tact]] (as evidenced by telling a woman she looks pregnant, and another that she should get a nose job), [[TheKlutz he's physically clumsy]], he has [[CharacterTic odd tics and other repetitive behaviors]], and [[SarcasmBlind he often doesn't pick up on Jerry's sarcasm.]] It's a wonder he has friends at all, let alone several girlfriends - but then again, he is the KavorkaMan.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Does Kramer have AspergersSyndrome? Even though he is unemployed and generally bumbles his way through life, he does display signs of intelligence throughout the series, particularly of the GeniusDitz / IdiotSavant variety(many variety (many of his business ideas and inventions are pretty clever). Moreover, he [[NoSocialSkills doesn't seem to understand the norms of social behavior]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} behavior or even general human behavior]]; behavior; he [[BrutalHonesty has no sense of tact]] tact (as evidenced by telling a woman she looks pregnant, and another that she should get a nose job), [[TheKlutz he's physically clumsy]], clumsy, he has [[CharacterTic odd tics and other repetitive behaviors]], behaviors, and [[SarcasmBlind he often doesn't pick up on Jerry's sarcasm.]] sarcasm. It's a wonder he has friends at all, let alone several girlfriends - but then again, he is the KavorkaMan.



** The series finale oh so much; love the continunity or confused by it. Or just plain don't like seeing the show end on such a downer that vilified the cast.

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** The series finale oh so much; love the continunity continuity or confused by it. Or just plain don't like seeing the show end on such a downer that vilified the cast.



-->'''Jerry:''' ''So, what's the deal with cancer?''
-->'''Audience member:''' ''I'' have ''cancer''!
-->'''Kramer:''' ''Ooh, tough crowd.''

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-->'''Jerry:''' --->'''Jerry:''' ''So, what's the deal with cancer?''
-->'''Audience --->'''Audience member:''' ''I'' have ''cancer''!
-->'''Kramer:''' --->'''Kramer:''' ''Ooh, tough crowd.''
10th Jul '16 8:04:05 PM mlsmithca
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* MagnumOpus: After the show ended, critics began discussing the "Seinfeld curse," as it seemed none of the people involved could ever find the same kind of success again. Only [[Series/CurbYourEnthusiasm Larry David]] and [[Series/{{Veep}} Julia Louis-Dreyfus]] have managed to break it.
16th Jun '16 9:05:26 AM Pren
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* MagnumOpus: After the show ended, critics began discussing the "Seinfeld curse," as it seemed none of the people involved could ever find the same kind of success again. Only [[Series/CurbYourEnthusiasm Larry David]] and [[Series/{{Veep}} Julia Louis-Dreyfus]] have managed to break it.
22nd May '16 4:16:22 AM Keys2theARC
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** "The Cigar Store Indian": After Jerry accidentally offends Elaine's Native American friend, Winona, he goes to great lengths to police his language, even avoiding using the word "reservation" (as in, a restaurant reservation). In recent years, Jerry Seinfeld has been very open about his criticism of political correctness, arguing it has stifled comedy.

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** "The Cigar Store Indian": After Jerry accidentally offends Elaine's Native American friend, Winona, he goes to great lengths to police his language, even avoiding using the word "reservation" (as in, when talking about making a restaurant reservation).reservation. In recent years, Jerry Seinfeld has been very open about his criticism of political correctness, arguing it has stifled comedy.
22nd May '16 4:15:18 AM Keys2theARC
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** "The Cigar Store Indian": After Jerry accidentally offends Elaine's Native American friend, Winona, he goes to great lengths to police his language, even avoiding using the word "reservation" (as in, a restaurant reservation). In recent years, Jerry Seinfeld has been very open about his criticism of political correctness, arguing it has stifled comedy.
11th May '16 11:48:58 AM erforce
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** As far as the show itself goes, Creator/CourteneyCox appears as Jerry's girlfriend (and fake wife) in "The Wife", [[Series/LoisAndClark Teri]] [[Series/DesperateHousewives Hatcher]] is Jerry's amply-endowed girlfriend in "The Implant", [[Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles Thomas Dekker]] is a child actor working with Kramer in "The Stand-In", Creator/JonFavreau is a birthday party clown in "The Fire", and Creator/SarahSilverman is Kramer's Jimmy-legged girlfriend in "The Money".

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** As far as the show itself goes, Creator/CourteneyCox appears as Jerry's girlfriend (and fake wife) in "The Wife", [[Series/LoisAndClark Teri]] [[Series/DesperateHousewives Hatcher]] is Jerry's amply-endowed girlfriend in "The Implant", [[Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles [[Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles Thomas Dekker]] is a child actor working with Kramer in "The Stand-In", Creator/JonFavreau is a birthday party clown in "The Fire", and Creator/SarahSilverman is Kramer's Jimmy-legged girlfriend in "The Money".
30th Apr '16 6:15:29 AM AdamC
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* AssPull: Kramer and Newman not reporting seeing Jerry's stolen car in Ohio to the police, claiming they don't want to get in trouble for misuing a mail truck. The police wouldn't bother checking if the truck or occupants if they reported seeing a friend's stolen car while on a routine mail run.

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* AssPull: Kramer and Newman not reporting seeing Jerry's stolen car in Ohio to the police, claiming they don't want to get in trouble for misuing a mail truck. The police wouldn't bother checking if the truck or occupants if they reported seeing a friend's stolen car while on a routine mail run. Justified in that they're idiots.
15th Mar '16 8:05:24 AM case
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** Also in "The Butter Shave," Jerry is miffed that Bania's simple humour is becoming more popular, and that George says he's the voice of a new generation and that's it's nice that you don't have to think about the jokes too hard. The whole thing seems oddly similar to the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode "[[Recap/SouthParkS10E3CartoonWarsPartOne Cartoon Wars]]" which complains about ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' for the same reasons but also has characters argue in favour for it the same way George does.
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