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** While the stories definitely don't have East Indians and Afro-Americans in the best light, especially early on, Native Americans and East Asians are portrayed positively (though often for the East Asians, a number of depictions are of a good-hearted and intelligent man who's sadly butt-ugly and disgustingly fat). Seabury Quinn also paint non-Christian monotheistic religions in a good light, and even his depictions of East Indians and Afro-Americans improve in later stories.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In early 20th Century Weird Tales story, "The Devil's Bride", the Yazidis are portrayed as degenerate devil worshippers and the characters including Jules De Grandin, are thankful that they are oppressed by their Muslim neighbors. In real-life 21st century, we have the Yazidis (who are not devil worshippers) facing ethnic cleansing by the fanatical Muslim terrorist group "ISIS".
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* CompleteMonster: Dr. John Biersfield Marston of "The House of Horror" is the runaway winner. When his son, crippled in an accident, is DrivenToSuicide by his fiancee deciding to break off the engagement due to being unable to cope with his injuries, Dr. Marston proceeds to kidnap and surgically mutilate her (by [[BodyHorror removing the bones from her arms and legs]], among other things) and keep her in a basement in his house. This DisproportionateRetribution would be bad enough, but he then goes on to kidnap and mutilate ''thirteen other girls'' who did nothing but have the misfortune to resemble the fiancee! A fourteenth girl is saved (and de Grandin offers to perform the surgery to correct the damage done to her face), but the others can only be {{mercy kill}}ed. Interestingly, he's one of Jules de Grandin's few non-supernatural adversaries.
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* CompleteMonster: Several, but Dr. John Biersfield Marston of "The House of Horror" is the runaway winner. [[spoiler: When his son, crippled in an accident, is DrivenToSuicide by his fiancee deciding to break off the engagement due to being unable to cope with his injuries, Dr. Marston proceeds to kidnap and surgically mutilate her (by [[BodyHorror removing the bones from her arms and legs]], among other things) and keep her in a basement in his house. This DisproportionateRetribution would be bad enough, but he then goes on to kidnap and mutilate ''thirteen other girls'' who did nothing but have the misfortune to resemble the fiancee! A fourteenth girl is saved (and de Grandin offers to perform the surgery to correct the damage done to her face), but the others can only be {{mercy kill}}ed.]] Interestingly, he's one of Jules de Grandin's few non-supernatural adversaries.
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* CompleteMonster: Several, but Dr. John Biersfield Marston of "The House of Horror" is the runaway winner. [[spoiler: When his son, crippled in an accident, is DrivenToSuicide by his fiancee deciding to break off the engagement due to being unable to cope with his injuries, Dr. Marston proceeds to kidnap and surgically mutilate her (by [[BodyHorror removing the bones from her arms and legs]], among other things) and keep her in a basement in his house. This DisproportionateRetribution would be bad enough, but he then goes on to kidnap and mutilate ''thirteen other girls'' who did nothing but have the misfortune to resemble the fiancee! A fourteenth girl is saved (and de Grandin offers to perform the surgery to correct the damage done to her face), but the others can only be {{mercy kill}}ed.]] Interestingly, he's one of Jules de Grandin's few non-supernatural adversaries.
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* CompleteMonster: Several, but Dr. John Biersfield Marston of "The House of Horror" is the runaway winner. [[spoiler: When his son, crippled in an accident accident, is DrivenToSuicide by his fiancee deciding to break off the engagement due to being unable to cope with his injuries, Dr. Marston proceeds to kidnap and surgically mutilate her (by [[BodyHorror removing the bones from her arms and legs]], among other things) and keep her in a basement in his house. This DisproportionateRetribution would be bad enough, but he then goes on to kidnap and mutilate ''thirteen other girls'' who did nothing but have the misfortune to resemble the fiancee! A fourteenth girl is saved (and de Grandin offers to perform the surgery to correct the damage done to her face), but the others can only be {{mercy kill}}ed.]] Interestingly, he's one of Jules de Grandin's few non-supernatural adversaries.
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* CompleteMonster: Several, but Dr. John Biersfield Marston of "The House of Horror" is the runaway winner. [[spoiler: When his war-crippled veteran son is DrivenToSuicide by his fiancee deciding to break off the engagement due to being unable to cope with his injuries, Dr. Marston proceeds to kidnap and surgically mutilate her (by [[BodyHorror removing the bones from her arms and legs]], among other things) and keep her in a basement in his house. This DisproportionateRetribution would be bad enough, but he then goes on to kidnap and mutilate ''thirteen other girls'' who did nothing but have the misfortune to resemble the fiancee! A fourteenth girl is saved (and de Grandin offers to perform the surgery to correct the damage done to her face), but the others can only be {{mercy kill}}ed.]] Interestingly, he's one of Jules de Grandin's few non-supernatural adversaries.
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* CompleteMonster: Several, but Dr. John Biersfield Marston of "The House of Horror" is the runaway winner. [[spoiler: When his war-crippled veteran son son, crippled in an accident is DrivenToSuicide by his fiancee deciding to break off the engagement due to being unable to cope with his injuries, Dr. Marston proceeds to kidnap and surgically mutilate her (by [[BodyHorror removing the bones from her arms and legs]], among other things) and keep her in a basement in his house. This DisproportionateRetribution would be bad enough, but he then goes on to kidnap and mutilate ''thirteen other girls'' who did nothing but have the misfortune to resemble the fiancee! A fourteenth girl is saved (and de Grandin offers to perform the surgery to correct the damage done to her face), but the others can only be {{mercy kill}}ed.]] Interestingly, he's one of Jules de Grandin's few non-supernatural adversaries.
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* CompleteMonster: Several, but Dr. John Biersfield Marston of "The House of Horror" is the runaway winner. [[spoiler: When his war-crippled veteran son is DrivenToSuicide by his fiancee deciding to break off the engagement due to being unable to cope with his injuries, Dr. Marston proceeds to kidnap and surgically mutilate her (by [[BodyHorror removing the bones from her arms and legs]], among other things) and keep her in a basement in his house. This DisproportionateRetribution would be bad enough, but he then goes on to kidnap and mutilate ''thirteen other girls'' who did nothing but have the misfortune to resemble the fiancee! A fourteenth girl is saved (and de Grandin offers to perform the surgery to correct the damage done to her face), but the others can only be {{mercy kill}}ed.]] Interestingly, he's one of Jules de Grandin's few non-supernatural adversaries.
* ValuesDissonance: Oh dear, yes. A lot of the stories reflect the racial attitudes of the 1920s and 1930s (just look at the tropes associated with the story "The Isle of Lost Ships") and ''Alien Flesh'' takes the ThirdLawOfGenderBending to new heights (or lows).
** FairForItsDay: That said, Quinn has had characters decry the poor treatment of women under conservative or patriarchal systems (usually foreign ones in comparison to [[{{Eagleland}} contemporary America]]).
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* ValuesDissonance: Oh dear, yes. A lot of the stories reflect the racial attitudes of the 1920s and 1930s (just look at the tropes associated with the story "The Isle of Lost Ships") and ''Alien Flesh'' takes the ThirdLawOfGenderBending to new heights (or lows).
** FairForItsDay: That said, Quinn has had characters decry the poor treatment of women under conservative or patriarchal systems (usually foreign ones in comparison to [[{{Eagleland}} contemporary America]]).
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* ValuesDissonance: Oh dear, yes. A lot of the stories reflect the racial attitudes of the 1920s and 1930s (just look at the tropes associated with the story "The Isle of Lost Ships") and ''Alien Flesh'' takes the ThirdLawOfGenderBending to new heights (or lows).
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* ValuesDissonance: Oh dear, yes. A lot of the stories reflect the racial attitudes of the 1920s and 1930s (just look at the tropes associated with the story "The Isle of Lost Ships") and ''Alien Flesh'' takes the ThirdLawOfGenderBending to new heights (or lows).
** FairForItsDay: That said, Quinn has had characters decry the poor treatment of women under conservative or patriarchal systems (usually foreign ones in comparison to [[{{Eagleland}} contemporary America]]). %% Baby steps.
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* ValuesDissonance: Oh dear, yes. A lot of the stories reflect the racial attitudes of the 1920s and 1930s (just look at the tropes associated with the story "The Isle of Lost Ships") and ''Alien Flesh'' takes the ThirdLawOfGenderBending to new heights (or lows).
** FairForItsDay: That said, Quinn has had characters decry the poor treatment of women under conservative or patriarchal systems (usually foreign ones in comparison to [[{{Eagleland}} contemporary America]]). %% Baby steps.
* ValuesDissonance: Oh dear, yes. A lot of the stories reflect the racial attitudes of the 1920s and 1930s (just look at the tropes associated with the story "The Isle of Lost Ships") and ''Alien Flesh'' takes the ThirdLawOfGenderBending to new heights (or lows).
** FairForItsDay: That said, Quinn has had characters decry the poor treatment of women under conservative or patriarchal systems (usually foreign ones in comparison to [[{{Eagleland}} contemporary America]]). %% Baby steps.
